tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6012232527742144793..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Harvard students denounce academic freedomUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger136125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53868418937059781072013-05-21T09:32:36.226-07:002013-05-21T09:32:36.226-07:00The "Kremlin on the Charles River" livin...The "Kremlin on the Charles River" living up to it's reputation, I see. Next, expect to see these same liberal "comrades" in the student body demand that the heretic professors make public "self criticisms" to atone for their counterrevolutionary ways. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54788232152451742612013-05-21T05:48:38.771-07:002013-05-21T05:48:38.771-07:00Moreover, the notion that Jewish and Spanish names...<br />Moreover, the notion that Jewish and Spanish names are mutually exclusive is ignorant. The first name on the list is Octavio González . I know Jewish Gonzálezes. You don't? Then maybe you shouldn't be commenting on this topic"<br /><br />While there are Jewish people with Hispanic surnames. Most people with Hispanic surnames are not Jewish.<br />If this less than subtle distinction is lost on you then perhpas you shouldnt be commenting on anything.Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84908953004062905172013-05-21T05:04:54.539-07:002013-05-21T05:04:54.539-07:00For this gross violation of human decency, Harvard...For this gross violation of human decency, Harvard must be punished: it should be closed for ten years, its endowment seized, and the professors and administrators re-educated through labor.ErisGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383064735664269791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63518746659994405902013-05-20T23:14:24.208-07:002013-05-20T23:14:24.208-07:00You also have an absurd amount of effort wasted di...<i>You also have an absurd amount of effort wasted discussing the role of Jews in this. If you read the petition, there are few obviously Jewish names, and lots of Hispanic, Asian and Anglo names. The core problem is egalitarian blank-slate liberalism.</i><br /><br />Bullshit. Ideologies are never a problem. They have no agency. Proponents of ideologies, however, may be a problem. <br /><br />Moreover, as Jewish scholars like Sutcliffe and Israel tell us, the genesis of liberalism is a result of the interplay between Jews and gentiles; it is a reaction of gentiles to the Jewish presence among them: "In short, the Enlightenment came to define itself, Mr. Sutcliffe argues, as the antithesis of all things Jewish." Pointing to liberalism is not exculpatory.<br /><br />Moreover, the notion that Jewish and Spanish names are mutually exclusive is ignorant. The first name on the list is Octavio González . I know Jewish Gonzálezes. You don't? Then maybe you shouldn't be commenting on this topic.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5704135495585546302013-05-20T20:52:12.226-07:002013-05-20T20:52:12.226-07:00Anonymous said...I was editor of a local Mensa new...<i> Anonymous said...I was editor of a local Mensa newsletter, around 30 years ago. One very common topic of discussion was, what on earth is i.q? The only common view was, it was a score on a test. There seems to be little correlation with life performance and i.q. In fact, most persons qualified for Mensa on the planet work as manual laborers of some sort.</i><br /><br />Surely you understand that Mensa comprises that portion of high-IQ people who feel the need to be validated because they're under-achievers. Do truly successful high-IQ people who work and socialize with other successful high-IQ people feel the need to go to Mensa meetings?Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33560835636114745162013-05-20T19:34:51.935-07:002013-05-20T19:34:51.935-07:00"Most studies find that the correlation betwe..."Most studies find that the correlation between SAT scores and first-year college grades is not overwhelming, and that only 10 percent to 20 percent of the variation in first-year GPA is explained by SAT scores"<br /><br />quite unfortunate that SAT hasn't caught up with the grade inflation. One could be forgiven for assuming that A stands for 'average' and F for 'fantastic!'<br />And there are more things to life than grades, stephen hsu's investigation found effort enough to make good grades in all subjects bar maths and physics.<br />More low IQ folks in colleges, more self-esteem boost needed, maybe SAT can degrade itself further and hand out more 800s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29537074762236018862013-05-20T18:59:23.042-07:002013-05-20T18:59:23.042-07:00"Good for corporate bosses and owners. Corpor...<b>"Good for corporate bosses and owners. Corporate profits, as a percentage of revenue, have never been so high."</b><br /><br />Interesting from that graph that corporate profits as a share of GDP soared most of all during the George W. Bush years, while W was turning a blind eye to the housing scandal and the massive number of illegal flooding into the country. Despite those levels being historic highs, they have returned right back there post-recession, during the Obama years.<br /><br /><br />Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85125212169139142372013-05-20T17:52:57.719-07:002013-05-20T17:52:57.719-07:00Anonymous said...
" He did not get into Harva...Anonymous said...<br />" He did not get into Harvard but three of my nephew's acquaintances did: a female and two blacks none of whom had anywhere near his intellectual credentials. "<br /><br />Your nephew has two black acquaintances and they both got into Harvard? Wow. What are the odds of that?<br /><br />I didn't even meet any black people in the 70's and 80's growing up let alone knowing 2 that got into Harvard<br />===<br />I graduated high school in the usa, a while ago, and I can think of 5 black kids who went to Harvard, MT and Princeton in my grade. I was in the same classes as they were.<br /><br />ogunsironhttp://www.gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26145960920816567142013-05-20T15:51:51.294-07:002013-05-20T15:51:51.294-07:00"high on fluid, low crystal"
That's..."high on fluid, low crystal"<br /><br />That's the case at least for the small white contingent. For the other 70-80%, it's straight Who-whom, and they are the "who". They have a vested interest. It could be quite powerful to show a pie chart of the likely ethnicities of these signatories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56035060844671524102013-05-20T15:18:19.616-07:002013-05-20T15:18:19.616-07:00The SW should look for means to encourage its Mexi...The SW should look for means to encourage its Mexicans to flock to NY and other such places. <br /><br />If blue liberal states really love blacks and browns, send more of them there. Tell blacks in the South that Vermont and Minnesota offers a lot more free services. Tell Mexicans that NYers love them and offer more freebies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68212389958116214992013-05-20T15:16:20.203-07:002013-05-20T15:16:20.203-07:00Larry Summers of course appointed Elena Kagan who ...Larry Summers of course appointed Elena Kagan who has no use for freedom of speech. She believes in shutting down 'hate speech', and if SC were to be taken over by her kind--and it's coming--, Sailer and the rest of us will be dragged off to jail. <br /><br />So, who cares about Summers when he favors people like Kagan? <br />We should care about his freedom of speech when he doesn't care about ours? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72021706996677444052013-05-20T14:44:01.529-07:002013-05-20T14:44:01.529-07:00Grover Prosling : "(c) strength of the correl...Grover Prosling : <i>"(c) strength of the correlation between various tests and real-life life outcomes like job status, compared to OTHER relevant variables such as family background."</i><br /><br />If family background was independent of IQ that might be a valid comparison to make.<br /><br />I'm reminded of the perennial Guardian lament - "why are there so many middle class children in the best state schools?" <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88949531206241460732013-05-20T12:27:07.845-07:002013-05-20T12:27:07.845-07:00The failure of Harvard, Scientific American, and s...The failure of Harvard, Scientific American, and system pundrity is total.<br /><br />The intelligentsia is never other than a bootblack for the powerful, even in the good old USA. For a very shameful example, <a href="http://www.propagandacritic.com/articles/ww1.cpi.html" rel="nofollow">look</a> at its response to World War One.<br /><br />Just like they wanted WW1 then, so the powers that be want amnesty now - and damn the torpedoes. In response, as Steve pointed out, the strangest bedfellows are now circling their wagons. (This bad mixed metaphor is mine.) The order of the day is boost amnesty, and the mainstream intellectuals are falling right into line.<br /><br />How trustworthy are they on <b>any</b> issue?Davidhttp://david-passingparade2.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1457226522509251992013-05-20T11:33:57.775-07:002013-05-20T11:33:57.775-07:00>I wonder how many of the mostly foreign soundi...>I wonder how many of the mostly foreign sounding names on the list were "holistically" granted admission, i.e., displaced better qualified white males as per Ron Unz's recent article.<<br /><br />They are living our lives. But since they are inferior, the whole thing is going tits up. Look around.Davidhttp://david-passingparade2.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29705471726916688792013-05-20T11:30:15.910-07:002013-05-20T11:30:15.910-07:00I once sat on a non-stop from Boston to SFO next t...I once sat on a non-stop from Boston to SFO next to a returning Harvard student. Her dad was a psychology prof at Berkeley.<br /><br />She claimed to have participated in a classroom disruption against E.O. Wilson and his sociobiology lecture. It was just so non-PC.<br /><br />What hypocrites!<br /><br />I correctly predicted that her parents would pick her up at the airport in a green Volvo station wagon.<br /><br />Please remember that the derivation of "professor" is "professor of the faith."Whitehallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11457944846499270192013-05-20T11:15:34.832-07:002013-05-20T11:15:34.832-07:00Dan Kurt and a few others have hit on one of the s...Dan Kurt and a few others have hit on one of the structural weaknesses of the current 'Meritocratic' elite.<br /><br />Several studies, including Unz's, have shown that Ivy League schools discriminate against black, hispanic, and Jewish applicants.<br /><br />No, I'm totally kidding. They discriminate against white gentiles, particularly working-class, rural, and ostensibly conservative whites in favor of the groups above.<br /><br />The talented tenth of blacks and latinoas has been fully coopted. The only interest they have in changing the system is for more money, prestige and power for the the talented tenth. Even if he's the dumbest person in the room, there's way more money in being the 'clean' and 'articulate' black man in the room than being the smartest man trying to organize and lead blacks. Even Al Sharpton, not the sharpest (heh) tool (heh) in the shed, finally figured that out. The same applies to mulatto, mestizo and aristofop Hispanics.<br /><br />White gentiles look like another story. Whether it's because Jews are frightened of flyover whites or just because suppressing them was what they marched through the institutions for, there are lots of smart and capable white who aren't co-opted. Guys who got Honors degrees at state U are not as plugged into or dependent on the system. Keep your mouth shut about HBD (or any other suppressed knowledge) if you want to go to Harvard has very little influence on people who know that Harvard doesn't want them.<br /><br />It can be hard to transfer unspoken knowledge to the next generation. We all know that blacks do worse on culture-reduced and non-verbal IQ tests, and so does Jencks. NYC ed bureaucrats were never told, so they tried to include more abstract reasoning on admissions tests, hoping blacks would do better. Liberals sixty years ago may have said that Mexicans weren't naturally dumb, but Eisenhower's Operation Wetback still rounded up a bunch to send home: they weren't foolish enough to believe their own propaganda.<br /><br />When genetic causes of IQ differences are too obvious to ignore, say after a couple more generations of desperate attempts at educational solutions, what can the elite do? They were almost all chosen for buying into the diversity/multicultural experiment. A big chunk of the elite got there <i>because</i> of it. I don't think they'll either want to apologize or change directions. No one will want to be first, because even if there aren't large purges, no one will want to be Watsoned or Richwined. There's not a competing elite to take over after this one stumbles a bit. The mono-multi-cultural elite can eff up really badly when there are no other plug and play alternatives.<br /><br />Off topic: Does anyone know how google chooses the captcha words? I have 'supremacy.' Is google trying to tell me something?robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52588118331185802302013-05-20T10:04:30.022-07:002013-05-20T10:04:30.022-07:00Really? I thought policy courses could be quite ch...Really? I thought policy courses could be quite challenging.<br />They are dealing with concepts,ideas, how they relate to each other and applying them to real world.<br />Wouldnt they be the bigger picture people?<br /><br />If I could hazard a guess, it's because once ideas are in the mix, then ideology will reign, and leftist viewpoints are the ruling ideology of the upper and upper middle classes. What is the blog all about? The left doesn't want an honest cost-benefit analysis of illegal immigration and affirmative action, because it knows deep down it would not even pass a very low level of critical scrutiny. If you had unemotional and data driven discussions in a MPA program, the vast majority of the non-ideological students would would side with the right, further marginalizing the left.<br /><br />The left's power is like that of orthodox religious leaders throughout history, their views are deferred to, and they are given the imprimatur of moral superiority even by people who do not share their politics, they determine what is acceptable in polite society. You can probably be quantitative in certain schools of government and administration, but only within prescribed limits. My guess is that Richwine didn't ruffle any feathers in the classroom at the Kennedy School, but he did in his thesis, which his fellow students were not privy to and so the left is apoplectic that they didn't sniff him out before he earned his doctorate from "their" school of government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12527144907251729782013-05-20T09:02:51.695-07:002013-05-20T09:02:51.695-07:00***I mean, can anyone else think of an example whe...<i>***I mean, can anyone else think of an example where the truth was covered up after someone spoke out about it strongly and convincingly? What are the sort of lag times involved?***<br /><br />Aristarchus of Samos first proposed the heliocentric model about 1,800 years before Copernicus, Galileo, and Kepler. So....there's that.</i><br /><br />Ptolemy's geocentric system carried the day over competing models precisely because it was more convincing. Ptolemy's system could reliably predict the positions of the planets and made no assumptions that were not based on observations. Aristarchus's heliocentrism was just a hypothesis that was not supported by data. For example, he correctly assumed that stellar parallax couldn't be observed because the stars were so far away, but it was not until the 19th century that this could be empirically proven.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70756048703134726312013-05-20T08:53:42.790-07:002013-05-20T08:53:42.790-07:00Is the master's in public policy a the Kennedy...Is the master's in public policy a the Kennedy school as hard to get into as the other graduate programs at Harvard ?<br /><br />Some speculation : <br />There was a bit of controversy here in Quebec a few years ago concerning our then leader of the opposition André Boisclair( who is gay). A few journalists wondered how he had managed to obtain a master's in public administration from Harvard, given that he had dropped out of his bachelor's in economics from Université de Montreal.<br /><br />In this document (in french) :<br />http://www.ql.umontreal.ca/volume12/numero2/interviewe.html<br /><br />Boisclair clearly admits that he never got his bachelor's degree. He also says that he chose the Kennedy school because it's progressive and it's a bunch of "democrats" running the school.<br /><br />The Kennedy school website, as of today, lists a bachelor's degree as a requirement for all its programs.<br />It's possible, though, that circa 2005, when Boisclair attended, a bachelor's degree wasn't strictly required! That doesn't sound very rigorous. I'm betting that Boisclair got admitted primarily because he was a young, french speaking, gay, leftish rising star of Quebec politics and not because he was particularly brilliant.<br />To give you an idea of his non-brilliance, he can't even speak english fluently even though he's a young guy who studied in Boston.<br /><br />The lack of jews on that list may be partially explained by the Kennedy school's target student body being merely reasonably smart politicians and politician wannabes from all around the world and not geniuses, though there must be some very high IQ people attending the school, of course.<br /><br />ogunsironhttp://www.gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66347034984046207392013-05-20T08:30:38.802-07:002013-05-20T08:30:38.802-07:00I imagine that you could learn something at the JF...<br />I imagine that you could learn something at the JFK School but you would have to supplement your curricula with classes from more serious schools. There are two types of Public Administration schools - those who prepare students to be top level government managers. These have curricula very much like that given to MBA students - classes in quantitative methods and supervision in organizations. And there are those who focus on 'policy' questions. These have classes in political topics."<br /><br />Really? I thought policy courses could be quite challenging.<br />They are dealing with concepts,ideas, how they relate to each other and applying them to real world.<br />Wouldnt they be the bigger picture people?<br />It may not be a STEM type of smarts but smarts nonetheless.<br />I dont know what is the standard of curricula at the JFK school but I wouldnt be surprised if like much of the Ivy League,the type of skills acquired at more of who you know than what you know.Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37733476411236209302013-05-20T08:16:16.354-07:002013-05-20T08:16:16.354-07:00Let me remind everyone that the academic disciplin...Let me remind everyone that the academic discipline with practitioners who have the lowest IQs is in fact Public Administration. It may be Harvard but the JFK School harbors the dimmest bulbs on campus.<br /><br />Bill O'Reilly keeps touting his MPA from there as a sign of his smarts. Not so.<br /><br />I imagine that you could learn something at the JFK School but you would have to supplement your curricula with classes from more serious schools. There are two types of Public Administration schools - those who prepare students to be top level government managers. These have curricula very much like that given to MBA students - classes in quantitative methods and supervision in organizations. And there are those who focus on 'policy' questions. These have classes in political topics.<br /><br />It's the difference between taking accounting and taking ethnic studies.<br /><br />Albertosaurus<br /><br /><br />Pat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3756605787944547052013-05-20T06:53:10.204-07:002013-05-20T06:53:10.204-07:00"Young people have fast processors and empty ..."Young people have fast processors and empty hard drives. "<br /><br />high on fluid, low crystalAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66248832657561477332013-05-20T05:01:18.686-07:002013-05-20T05:01:18.686-07:00Nothing short of Richwine burning at the stake wil...Nothing short of Richwine burning at the stake will satisfy these bigots!<br />The problem with our elite and their elite cubs like those Harvard student is that they live in an ivory tower. With little or no contact with actual feral low IQ denizens. That and a total lack of morals and shame too.<br />In twenty years they may find out they´ve turned every first world nation into third worlds dumps making very little revenue for their finanial rackets and of course totally unlivable even for the very rich. Commuting by helicopter is expensive and dangerous. Favellas soon encroach upon gated communities. What´s the point of being rich if you can´t enjoy life to the point where you can´t walk down the street without being mugged or kidnapped? Think of the children!<br />If any of those idiots are reading this thread they can´t say they weren´t warned. Oh, and look out for the masses with pitch forks!<br />They´ll be at your gate sooner than you can say amnesty.<br />BB753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64647632448427117192013-05-20T04:10:33.868-07:002013-05-20T04:10:33.868-07:00Cai Corishev said:
"You'd think we'd...Cai Corishev said:<br /><br />"You'd think we'd have learned that adding millions of extra people to a workforce that has no demand for them isn't a good thing."<br /><br />Good for corporate bosses and owners. Corporate profits, as a percentage of revenue, have never been so high.<br /><br />http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2013/05/-corporate-profits-as-a-share-of-gdp.html<br /><br />Good for the money-printing complex (the Fed and its favored big banks) and those who use freshly-printed fiat (Uncle Sam). Remember they started off in the fiat era of the 1970's with wage and price controls. Those were difficult to manage. Since 1973 they have used other, very effective methods of wage suppression.<br /><br />It's just bad for you and me and our families, that's all. Who? Whom?Jeff W.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90918984008558910012013-05-20T00:13:58.040-07:002013-05-20T00:13:58.040-07:00Steve linked to John Horgan's Scientific Ameri...<i>Steve linked to John Horgan's Scientific American article about the Richwine affair before. At the time Steve didn't quote the following. Did Horgan add it to the article later?</i><br /><br />Horgan added it later, after having become a laughing stock. He tries to pass off the original article as satire or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com