tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6090313053823902061..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Bloomberg, gun control, and stop and friskUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68273961657625752992012-12-26T13:55:16.804-08:002012-12-26T13:55:16.804-08:00"[S]emi-literate nitwit Thomas "Mumbles&...<i>"[S]emi-literate nitwit Thomas "Mumbles" Menino... speaks nothing recognizable as the English language."</i><br /><br />I did my Menino impression for my New York-based cousins at our Christmas party. They chuckled, until I explained that I was <i>not</i> exaggerating for comic effect (okay, I was, but only just <i>barely</i>), and that he really does sound like that. Then their jaws dropped and their eyes went wide. As someone else put it years ago, "It's like he has a whale's tongue and an infant's lungs".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7005492397714656982012-12-26T08:57:59.381-08:002012-12-26T08:57:59.381-08:00Whites just act like they hate each other to score...Whites just act like they hate each other to score points. The reality is that minorities actually demonstrate that they hate each other through their day-to-day behavior far moreCommander Lounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3590742587276950672012-12-26T08:57:52.925-08:002012-12-26T08:57:52.925-08:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD2RhWCJkWk
Bickle...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD2RhWCJkWk<br /><br />Bickle advises Bloomberg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33147826462458051622012-12-26T06:49:53.269-08:002012-12-26T06:49:53.269-08:00Intermarriage between the Irish and Italians aroun...Intermarriage between the Irish and Italians around Boston is common, but they still have their enclaves, like "Guinea Gulch" in Saugus and the "Irish Riviera" in Scituate.<br /><br />The difference between the two is that the Irish in Boston trended Left and have long controlled the city and state bureaucracy, along with some serious welfare dependency, as depicted by the Southie project girls in Gone Baby Gone. The Italians are a bit more conservative and still control the rackets, despite Bloomie's gun control buddy and current lefty Boston mayor, semi-literate nitwit Thomas "Mumbles" Menino, who speaks nothing recognizable as the English language. Google "Mumbles Menino" and check out some of his malapropisms. You'll be left wondering how this idiot was elected mayor of one of the most educated cities in the country.<br /><br />The trend in Boston since the early 1900s was that the Irish stole from the government and the Italians stole everything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22455400565959455642012-12-26T01:07:40.921-08:002012-12-26T01:07:40.921-08:00"Stop and Frisk is so effective because it is..."Stop and Frisk is so effective because it is so widespread (if your a young black male you know your going to get stopped and frisked, so you don't carry a gun, which leads to few gun arrests, less than 2% of stops result in a weapon being found, which leads to low incarceration)"<br /><br />"find it hard to believe the stop-and-frisk policy could effect such a population shift. Couldn't those young Black guys just stop carrying guns and stay where they are?"<br /><br />Say young black males are 20% of the total black population and you take the worst 10% of them then that final 2% of the total black population will be responsible for 50%+ of the black crime.<br /><br />Because the media generally prevent the police from dealing with black crime - by refusing to accept black crime is vastly disproportionate compared to other groups - the police developed stop and frisk as a way of minimizing the inevitable body count that resulted from ignoring the problem.<br /><br />That's the general case.<br /><br />However in New York zero tolerance was the cover for giving the police a green light to crank stop and frisk up to old "Sundown" levels of constant in your face harassment of that 2% so they moved to places like Camden New Jersey and destroyed those towns instead.<br /><br />When talking about demographics and crime it's not just black or white it's gender and especially age.<br /><br /><br />.<br />"SF has ready-made Oakland/Richmond to dump its undesirables. Does NY? I don't know, I'm asking."<br /><br />During the time i knew about it they moved to places like Camden New Jersey. It may be different now.<br /><br />The other critical aspect of this is it's the 2% that prevent gentrification by scaring off gentrifiers. If the police chase those guys off then it simply becomes a case of economic power and the non-violent part of the black population loses that fight easy and have to move away.<br /><br />So, the "liberal" solution is to sic the police on the scariest 2% of the black population and drive them off to kill bluecollar white people in the cheaper suburbs.<br /><br />The "liberals" can then gentrify the now much safer but still extremely cheap black neighborhoods pushing the black population back down south.<br /><br />.<br />"Britain always had much stricter gun laws than the United States, but the laws were tightened dramatically after two horrific massacres, one at Hungerford and one at Dunblane."<br /><br />No gun control until 1903.<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#History_of_gun_control_in_the_United_KingdomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62962654525601621762012-12-26T00:17:04.910-08:002012-12-26T00:17:04.910-08:00"and his bedrock assumption is that the liber..."and his bedrock assumption is that the liberal paternalism with which New York is governed can and should be a model for the nation as a whole."<br /><br />Zero tolerance was a cover for the ethnic cleansing by harassment of black people from Manhattan / Harlem.<br /><br />The problem is black people have a vastly disproportionate violent crime rate because this hasn't happened yet among black people.<br /><br />http://hbdchick.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/pinker-fig-3-3.jpg<br /><br />This problem could be fixed or adapted for if it could be discussed openly but the media and academia deathgrip on the culture prevent it being discussed.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72608673290098720392012-12-25T20:02:47.449-08:002012-12-25T20:02:47.449-08:00What may make them [Indians] look troubled is that...<i>What may make them </i>[Indians]<i> look troubled is that they often get lumped in with the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.</i><br /><br />Deliberate policy by MSM here in UK. They also cover for gypsy criminals by calling them Romanians or East Europeans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34888985785057621352012-12-25T15:02:07.763-08:002012-12-25T15:02:07.763-08:00Why are the black leaders about this? Have they be...Why are the black leaders about this? Have they been bought off ala Obama?<br />If they go along, lots of toys and prizes?<br /><br />Money makes bullshit talk. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92158396507628719812012-12-25T09:28:45.468-08:002012-12-25T09:28:45.468-08:00"Steve, the mayor's name is Emanuel."..."Steve, the mayor's name is Emanuel."<br /><br />Matthew: "All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet [Isaiah]: 'The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Emanuel'--which means, 'God with us.'" <br /><br />How seasonal! "And the Word was made flesh and dwelt in Chicago".Big Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3390864014521790742012-12-25T08:07:06.876-08:002012-12-25T08:07:06.876-08:00Remove the DWL/SWPL suicidal anti-white ideology a...<i>Remove the DWL/SWPL suicidal anti-white ideology and suddenly the issue of gun control vanishes. Gun control is simply an excuse for DWL/SWPL types to avoid the elephant in the room by blaming guns instead of recognizing the facts of HBD.</i><br /><br />Indeed, it's just knee-jerk libtardism. "Duh, gunz kill people, ban gunz!"<br /><br /><i>by the way, i want to propose the idea that maybe there is NOTHING anybody can do to stop stuff like the connecticut shooting.</i><br /><br />Yep. I said as much in a previous gun control thread here, but I don't know if Steve ever posted it. He sent a whole raft of my comments to limbo. I freely admit that I don't mind standing on the argument that liberty has a price, and Newtown is it. I can make lots of other arguments against gun control, but I don't mind saying that.<br /><br /><i>mass shootings suck - but our data says they aren't becoming more common.</i><br /><br />Whose data? I can't find jack squat.<br /><br />I kinda see a bundle of reasons for libtards to hate guns, rather than any single issue, though I guess you could collectively call refer to them under the banner of "tribalism":<br /><br />Rural people like guns, and urban people don't, for cultural reasons.<br />Urban people don't like rural people, and vice-versa.<br />Black crime will thrive under a gun ban; fewer whites defending themselves with guns is good for blacks.<br />Blacks can't afford much in the way of guns anyway.<br />Statists hate guns, and the 2nd Amendment, and the ideas behind the 2nd Amendment.<br />Rich people can afford bodyguards and special exceptions and red tape, and they dictate libtard policy.<br />Guns have a profound equalizing effect on the ability to deal violence, and so are anathema to the elitists who dictate libtardism; peasants with weapons has always been a source of elite indignation.<br />Libtards are dumb enough to think prohibition will work for guns, even though it didn't work for booze.<br /><br /><i>We won't be able to keep them from getting guns, without such tight control that the cure would be worse than the disease.</i><br /><br />One of my limbo-ed comments made the point that a nut can just buy a ton of low-capacity pistols and get quite the massacre of innocents going if that's what he wants to do. Firing each gun until it is empty, dropping it, and drawing a fresh one will always be faster than reloading a single weapon.<br /><br /><i>I am not an expert on irish italian relations but i think breezy point, famous around america for allowing no nams to live there had plenty of irish and italians who would often intermarry</i><br /><br />As far as I can tell, the statement "intermarriage between Irish and x is high" is true for all values of "x."Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8194093552103828982012-12-25T07:40:27.141-08:002012-12-25T07:40:27.141-08:00Merry Christmas everyone.
Does it though.. Who ar...Merry Christmas everyone.<br /><br /><i>Does it though.. Who are the victims of gun violence in he cities? The same class of people who do the shooting. On the other hand the mass shootings that provoked the recent outrage weren't specifically urban. Gun control is more about these shootings than the ones that happen in the hood, because the people who wrote about gun violence do not really venture into the hood that much. They do on the other hand spend a lot of time in schools theaters malls and universities.</i><br /><br />I get the feeling that gun control is just about tribalism and indoctrination. The indoctrinators want gun control, so they indoctrinate their useful idiots to want gun control. They're a receptive audience because their tribe isn't much into guns anyway, and their hated rural and lower-SES tribal enemies are.<br /><br />The whole mass shooting thing is a storm in a teacup. Try G**gling for how many people die every year in America from mass shootings. Good luck getting a straight answer. There are no statistics for the "mass shooting epidemic" that supposedly justifies shredding the Constitution. The media will give you lists of mass shootings, but no statistics. The government does not keep statistics on mass shootings.<br /><br />That's how big a deal mass shootings really are to the gov't and media; so big, they don't even have statistics for how many lives they take each year, how many lives they've taken over the last 30 years, etc.<br /><br />Mass shootings are just a media ploy to get gun control. There's no "there" there.<br /><br />I can G**gle up annual deaths from bee stings, lightning strikes, or drunk driving and get a straight answer on the first page of results - usually the first result. I can't find any straight answers about mass shootings on the first two pages of G**gle results.<br /><br />About 12,000 people are supposedly killed in drunk-driving accidents every year in America. About 90 die from bee stings, and about 75 die from lightning strikes. I get the feeling mass shootings take about as many lives as bee stings or lightning strikes, but the media and gov't would rather not admit that.<br /><br />But I'm certain that drunk driving takes far more lives than mass shootings. I'm also certain that there's no explicit, specific protection of the right to produce, trade, possess, or sell alcohol in the Constitution. Why don't we ban alcohol and save 12,000 lives a year? We can save far more lives, without trampling on an explicit, specific, Constitutionally-protected right. Let's do it for the children!Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38117717250065670132012-12-24T19:38:35.469-08:002012-12-24T19:38:35.469-08:00On the west channel in New Orleans, the Irish and ...On the west channel in New Orleans, the Irish and Italians pretty much make it their turf. I've known my share of characters who were products of both ethnicities. They had <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6549329" rel="nofollow">this dude</a> as their sheriff for decades, a very feared man. Only in Louisiana.alexishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14958611059030729965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4786098063580926762012-12-24T18:47:55.298-08:002012-12-24T18:47:55.298-08:00"Which means stop and frisk is going to go aw...<i>"Which means stop and frisk is going to go away</i><br /><br />That's the best thing I've heard about New York in a while. I've been needing something like that since Sandy. If Whiskey says that stop and frisk is doomed, then stop and frisk really must be here to stay. Which is great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3813205916943487302012-12-24T16:50:30.449-08:002012-12-24T16:50:30.449-08:00I am not an expert on irish italian relations but ...<i>I am not an expert on irish italian relations but i think breezy point, famous around america for allowing no nams to live there had plenty of irish and italians who would often intermarry</i><br /><br />Mother Nature was not so easily excluded. <br /><br /><br /><i> The US is definitely getting a better sort of East Indians than the UK.</i><br /><br />I don't know, the Indians in Britain seem to be a reasonably well-adjusted bunch. What may make them look troubled is that they often get lumped in with the Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. <br />Vancouver seems to be the main focus for low-quality Indian immigration. The Indo-Guyanese and the Indo-Trinidadians in the New York area also tend to be fairly low on the socioeconomic ladder.<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80199865619596431742012-12-24T16:23:56.017-08:002012-12-24T16:23:56.017-08:00"Are these populations less prone to violent ...<i>"Are these populations less prone to violent crime than African Americans? </i><br /><br />Yes. And I think the difference is large. <br /><br /><i>In the UK, 'Afro-Caribbean' people are something like 2% of the population (not that you'd know that from TV), but 14% of the prison population.</i><br /><br />You're comparing them to whites. Are Jamaican immigrants to the US more crime-prone than US whites? Definitely. But they're still much less crime-prone than US blacks. It is also possible that the US is getting a better sort of Jamaicans, Haitians and Africans than the UK. Is this actually true? I don't know. But it's possible. The US is definitely getting a better sort of East Indians than the UK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82054027266138229202012-12-24T15:16:05.793-08:002012-12-24T15:16:05.793-08:00Bloomberg TV was set up eight years later, after B...<i>Bloomberg TV was set up eight years later, after Bloomberg terminals were already dominant in institutional-trading.</i><br /><br />The terminals are essentially media devices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47520280065856329042012-12-24T14:58:46.828-08:002012-12-24T14:58:46.828-08:00I am not an expert on irish italian relations but ...I am not an expert on irish italian relations but i think breezy point, famous around america for allowing no nams to live there had plenty of irish and italians who would often intermarry <br /><br />Irish and italians in nyc appear to intermarry in nyc at the prole and the swpl level in nycAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25675644349283738372012-12-24T14:51:46.862-08:002012-12-24T14:51:46.862-08:00To the commentator who pointed out the historical ...To the commentator who pointed out the historical separation of italians from irish in boston... Is this still true? Do the irish and italians mix more in nyc than they do in boston?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44537685848449852812012-12-24T14:15:15.240-08:002012-12-24T14:15:15.240-08:00Bloomberg was always more of a media company than ...<i>Bloomberg was always more of a media company than a tech one, even at the beginning.</i><br /><br />Bloomberg TV was set up eight years later, after Bloomberg terminals were already dominant in institutional-trading.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80202506488114107412012-12-24T13:39:52.186-08:002012-12-24T13:39:52.186-08:00Dreher isn't conservative he's a political...Dreher isn't conservative he's a political romantic with religious traditionalism as his romantic object. An Adam Mueller for the 21st century. Douthat is a true profile in courage though. Of course the game-right writes him of as a chubby beta who believes in Christ. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03822785332914878380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9951436803731446672012-12-24T12:47:30.409-08:002012-12-24T12:47:30.409-08:00i want to propose the idea that maybe there is NOT...<em>i want to propose the idea that maybe there is NOTHING anybody can do to stop stuff like the connecticut shooting.</em><br /><br />Agreed. Every once in a while, someone is going to go crazy and want to kill a bunch of people. Anyone who thinks we can predict who will do this should spend an afternoon reading through cases at a site like crimelibrary.com. You can read about serial murderers and mass killers going back more than a century, and very rarely was there any warning. Oh, many of them had bad upbringings or previous trouble with the law, but so have millions of people who never turn to mass murder. We don't have the first idea how to pick out future mass killers.<br /><br />Given that there will be hopeful killers, they will be able to find weapons. We won't be able to keep them from getting guns, without such tight control that the cure would be worse than the disease. But again, go read a few dozen mass-murder cases and see how many were done with poison or knives or simple bludgeoning. A gun isn't required; it only makes the process more efficient.<br /><br />So, given that there will be hopeful mass murderers showing up in public places with deadly weapons, our last hope is to stop them at the point of attack. A nearby policeman might be useful there, but we can't expect to have one on every corner and in every classroom -- and wouldn't want to if we could. That leaves armed citizens as the only reasonable last line of defense. <br /><br />But that's not a perfect answer, so it's not acceptable to liberal utopians. They won't be satisfied with "two dead in shooting before nearby citizen takes out killer" over "armed man kills twenty-five before police arrive." Imperfect solutions are not allowed, if there's a perfect fantasy left to be tried some more.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39366412179181464172012-12-24T11:35:15.491-08:002012-12-24T11:35:15.491-08:00The most recent evidence that New York is it's...The most recent evidence that New York is it's own unique bubble when it comes to this stuff: <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/new-york-city-suicide-rate-murder-rate-2012_n_2338994.html" rel="nofollow">New York City Suicide Rate Will Likely Top Murder Rate for 2012</a>. The murder rate is on pace to be the lowest in NYC in 52 years.DaveinHackensackhttp://www.thehackensack.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84902330261156429922012-12-24T11:30:35.440-08:002012-12-24T11:30:35.440-08:00I think there are two dominant political ideologie...<i>I think there are two dominant political ideologies amongst today's American, urban, cosmopolitan, technocratic elite.</i><br /><br />NASCAR is a better example of technocracy than contemporary urban America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13300132833721476312012-12-24T11:22:36.441-08:002012-12-24T11:22:36.441-08:00Bloomberg is a technologist (in addition to a busi...<i>Bloomberg is a technologist (in addition to a businessman and politician), so he counts as a technocrat.</i><br /><br />Bloomberg was always more of a media company than a tech one, even at the beginning.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63357517695771112042012-12-24T10:33:13.416-08:002012-12-24T10:33:13.416-08:00"One thing to keep in mind with New York City..."One thing to keep in mind with New York City (and D.C.) demographic statistics (perhaps Miami, too) is that African-Americans get replaced by non-Hispanic blacks from the West Indies, Africa, and Haiti."<br /><br />Are these populations less prone to violent crime than African Americans? In the UK, 'Afro-Caribbean' people are something like 2% of the population (not that you'd know that from TV), but 14% of the prison population. And you can search for 'West Indian Festival' and shooting to see that right in the US and Canada there is plenty of violence associated with that community.stari_momaknoreply@blogger.com