tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6194884183931336799..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Irresponsible speculation on implausible diplomatic revolutionsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90713570803734726412013-10-13T14:58:15.962-07:002013-10-13T14:58:15.962-07:00Good intentions but a bit condescending and self-f...Good intentions but a bit condescending and self-flattering on the part of the voters, maybe?<br /><br />http://bit.ly/1ajF6hp<br /><br />"We are such gooooooooood people." <br /><br />Ending bullying is one thing. But billying inferior as superior is tacky. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1419981947980313472013-10-12T22:58:08.552-07:002013-10-12T22:58:08.552-07:00The problem Whiskey doesn't notice, but certai...The problem Whiskey doesn't notice, but certain Russophobe fanatics have, is that Moscow is already getting a piece of the Leviathian pie. And offshore gas takes longer to develop and costs more than on shore fields, fracked or unfracked. Russia's chief competitor for cheap gas to EU is not Israel but the Central Asia Stans and Iran/Qatar, which is why Z. Bzrezinski and the neocons were so obsessed with Nabucco. It was supposed to be the bait that would allow the Sunnis and Shi'a to bury the hatchet and for Iran to finally come in from the cold at Moscow's expense. Syria was supposed to be the highway for this gas pipe which is why Putin has backed Assad to the nines. The amount of foreign and military aid Russia is pouring into Damascus numbers into the billions, but it is small compared to what Gazprom would lose if the Qataris got their grand dreamed of pipeline. No doubt Bibi was promised a Leviathian connector to the Qatari grand Arab gas pipe but as usual everyone is betraying everyone else, Iran wanted the pipeline without the Qataris, the Sunnis Muslim Brothers were going to betray the Jews or failing that sabotage any Israeli trunk line making landfall in Lebanon or Syria, and Russia is cleverly playing off everyone against everyone else exploiting Obama's stupidity and strategic dependency (if not employee status with) Doha and Riyadh.<br /><br />I remember the good ole' days when Pat Buchanan could honestly denounce the neocons as Israel's amen corner. Now when it comes to Syria Mikey Weiss, Saban Center ex-Mike Doran and the rest of that crowd are Doha's Amen Corner. It's been spectacular to watch rich Gulf Sunnis coopt gullible American neocon Jews who still think they're promoting some Israeli interest, even as most of the IDF/IAF/Mossad DON'T WANT A MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD GOVERNMENT IN DAMASCUS AND WITH DAMN GOOD REASON! Once again Moscow sees daylight between Israeli Jews and those idiotic neocons who claim to speak for them in Washington, and is moving in to ruthlessly exploit the cognitive dissonance there. "Spengler" aka David P. Goldman certainly didn't want Obama to intervene on behalf of the Ikwhans and Al Nusra Front, and there are many others like him who just didn't want to publically contradict AIPAC. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68899634317114966312013-10-12T22:49:26.927-07:002013-10-12T22:49:26.927-07:00Steve,
Thank you for pointing this out. Israel...Steve,<br /><br />Thank you for pointing this out. Israel's quiet drift into Russia's orbit (although it's well behind Cyprus, Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria aka the old Byzantine Empire in that respect) is the most underreported diplomatic story. <br /><br />Even non-neocons like David P. Goldman aka Spengler don't really want to see it, after daring to troll his erstwhile comrades with Asia Times columns titled "Putin for President". Goldman thinks the Moscow-Israel relationship is all about weapons and Iran horsetrading. In the short run it has been, but in the medium term there's the gas field in Leviathian that Gazprom has bough a stake in (incidentally infuritating the Houston-based Russophobe fanatic Craig Pirrong, who also fears Germany sliding into Russia's orbit after the German voters finally move on from Merkel).<br /><br />In the long term, it's about nothing less than the Russian Empire reclaiming the Jewish brainpower it lost to progroms and Communism. As is the coming wave of Greek, Spanish and other European immigration to Russia -- all the 'Russia is doomed demographically' stuff is based on projections made ten years ago that no longer match Russia's modest economic growth reality and never allow for Moscow to cleverly import Spaniards rather than Tadjiks. <br /><br />In other words, the neocons with their fresh memories of the Cold War are passing, and the younger generation of Israelis (if not Jewish Americans) simply can't see Moscow as the Eternal Evil Empire the way their forebears did, anymore than Jews can be safely kept on the Democratic plantation forever. <br /><br />More than likely Jews will become indifferent or even vaguely Russophilic before they become a genuinely large swing bloc, though the Orthodox Jews are swinging GOP in New York/New Jersey...<br /><br />And if you all haven't noticed, there's been an avalanche of desperate attempts on Twitter, both among eternal Cold Warriors and Obamabots to link the American and global libertarian Right to Putin. There are two entire Twitter accounts devoted to this theme:<br /><br />@stopagitprop and @tsnowbird5000<br /><br />I rather suspect the increasing prominence of Tula Works ammo at Wal Marts across the US will soon be portrayed by Homeland Security trolls online as a diabolical Putinist plot to arm America's "bitter clingers" for insurrection against Washington. Hell, they're already accusing the top 1,000th visited site in the U.S. ZeroHedge of being a Kremlin agitprop site just because it's run by a Bulgarian. Why not try for a 'the Manosphere, neo-traditionalists, libertarians/anti-NSA people are all the new Commies paid by Moscow' propaganda line?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33376172681471134962013-10-10T12:46:11.382-07:002013-10-10T12:46:11.382-07:00>> Anonymous said...
"I don't think...>> Anonymous said...<br />"I don't think Netanyahu has ever said any such thing, or taken any stance on US immigration policy. IME the Israeli Right isn't nearly as hypocritical as the US Jewish elite (both left wing and neocon)."<br /><br />He didn't say it but he sure is bosom buddies with the likes of Abe Foxman.<br /><br />Whom do you think Netanhayu prefers to run the US? Hillary Clinton or Pat Buchanan? <br /><br />Whom do you think Netanhayu prefers as pundit? Thomas Friedman or Jared Taylor? <<<br /><br />Netanyahu is a Jewish-Israeli ethnoationalist and favours whoever and whatever will best advance Israeli interests. Abe Foxman is a useful ally, whereas Pat Buchanan makes unfriendly noises, so obviously he prefers the former as long as Abe is useful.<br />But Netanyahu has no philosophical objection to Buchanan favouring American interests over Israeli interests, it's purely pragmatic. Heck I doubt he had any philosophical objection to Ahmahjinedad in Iran, while being ready and willing to nuke Iran into the stone age. Netanyahu straightforwardly favours his own people over foreigners, which I respect and find easy to deal with. Abe Foxman, OTOH, not so much.<br />Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-829619865295236332013-10-10T03:55:39.519-07:002013-10-10T03:55:39.519-07:00Whom do you think Netanhayu prefers as pundit? Tho...<i>Whom do you think Netanhayu prefers as pundit? Thomas Friedman or Jared Taylor?</i><br /><br />You might be surprised.IHTGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13543091238926738309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61967965477032219032013-10-09T11:15:28.513-07:002013-10-09T11:15:28.513-07:00>> If anything, Israelis are with the libera...>> If anything, Israelis are with the liberal Jews in America in pushing a double standard whereby<<<br /><br />"please, one valid Hebrew-language citation which supports this claim?"<br /><br />You really don't get it. It's like the meaning of books comes from reading in between the lines. <br />Of course, NO ONE will blatantly say what is going on.<br /><br />But just look at the behavior, the actions, and overall policy. Despite some token criticism, Liberal Zionists are hardly tough critics of Israel. The likes of Alan Dershowitz and David Sirota, though flaming Liberals in the US, turn into Pat Buchanans on the issue of Israel. <br />Even Liberal Zionists who aren't as brazen as the likes of Elliott Abrams tend to be very muted in their criticism of Israel and tend to blame the GOP and wingnuts for the inability for any resolution. <br /><br />Look, American conservatives don't say they are for white interests, but they are essentially far more into white issues and interests than American liberals. <br /><br />You just have to pick up the signals. And Jews are not stupid to give the game away. <br /><br />It's like in sports, there are secret plans and signals. A catcher makes hand signals only for the pitcher to see. It's not for everyone, but such signals are crucial. Jews know the signals, and you can sense it if you learn to tune in. <br /><br />Same with business news. So much the really good stuff is never reported. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44723542666602001022013-10-09T11:08:46.319-07:002013-10-09T11:08:46.319-07:00"Yes, Putin's Affirmative Action in Corru..."Yes, Putin's Affirmative Action in Corruption campaign has been pretty successful at making Russia's oligarchs look more like Russia, without setting off vicious backlashes within Russia or in the America."<br /><br />But there is the backdoorlash of homo hysteria and WWG. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18116937676084618242013-10-09T11:07:37.943-07:002013-10-09T11:07:37.943-07:00"I don't think Netanyahu has ever said an..."I don't think Netanyahu has ever said any such thing, or taken any stance on US immigration policy. IME the Israeli Right isn't nearly as hypocritical as the US Jewish elite (both left wing and neocon)."<br /><br />He didn't say it but he sure is bosom buddies with the likes of Abe Foxman.<br /><br />Whom do you think Netanhayu prefers to run the US? Hillary Clinton or Pat Buchanan? <br /><br />Whom do you think Netanhayu prefers as pundit? Thomas Friedman or Jared Taylor? <br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63135735050261444732013-10-09T11:05:39.741-07:002013-10-09T11:05:39.741-07:00Steve Sailer is
pretty good at Sci-fi. Steve Sailer is <br />pretty good at Sci-fi. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12448750992275439492013-10-09T05:26:13.283-07:002013-10-09T05:26:13.283-07:00Netanyahu is learning Chinese (not well, judging f...Netanyahu is learning Chinese (not well, judging from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huL97oKv3Go), and Dry Bones has an outreach to China (http://drybonesproject.com/print.html), so it's kind of obvious that the Israelis are thinking about replacing America with China. <br /><br />Too bad for the Israelis that, to the Chinese, the Jews are this weird group of Westerners who aren't terribly significant (14 million of them worldwide...there are 5 times as many Hakka!), and no amount of invocation of the Kaifeng Jews (who are about as significant to China as the Old Believers in Alaska are to the US..ie, not at all) is going to change that. <br /><br />Anonymous Gwailu GoyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67904769153174753762013-10-09T05:19:43.888-07:002013-10-09T05:19:43.888-07:00The Israelis are very much thinking about switchin... The Israelis are very much thinking about switching to China as their patron: that's why Netanyahu is learning Chinese (not terribly well, judging by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huL97oKv3Go), and why Dry Bones has an outreach to China (http://drybonesproject.com/print.html). They can see the writing on the wall, and they want to suck up to the coming power.<br /><br />Too bad that coming power has little or no use for the Israelis, and no amount of invocation of the Kaifeng Jews is going to change that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78093151883750536522013-10-09T02:08:46.627-07:002013-10-09T02:08:46.627-07:00If Israel loses American support it also loses Ame...If Israel loses American support it also loses American shackles and would be free to be infinitely more militarily aggressive and would probably end up conquering large areas of the Middle East, including oil producing regions. This is the major factor that people are forgetting - American doesn't just support, but massively restrains Israel. It's a great deal for Israel because American support means so much, but if that was withdrawn, everything changes.<br /><br />If Israel came to control large parts of the ME oil capacity, then China and Russia - and everyone else - would simply trade with Israel. Do you think China cares who they trade with as long as they get their oil? Once ideological elements are eliminated from the equation - and only America seriously cares about them - practical considerations will rule. And with the likelihood that American support would be withdrawn only with the Third-Worldization of American, a not impossible propect, American's ability or even inclination to prevent Israel from taking over oil producing regions would not be a serious stumbling block.Gregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47787225566685622852013-10-09T00:56:39.546-07:002013-10-09T00:56:39.546-07:00anon:
"Netanhayu and American Jews are on the...anon:<br />"Netanhayu and American Jews are on the same page: nationalism and ethno-self-interest for Jews, anti-nationalism and open-borders for white majority nations. "<br /><br />I don't think Netanyahu has ever said any such thing, or taken any stance on US immigration policy. IME the Israeli Right isn't nearly as hypocritical as the US Jewish elite (both left wing and neocon).Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74547835072206637922013-10-09T00:52:43.508-07:002013-10-09T00:52:43.508-07:00Russia, an imperial power like the USA, has lots o...Russia, an imperial power like the USA, has lots of Muslim countries in its near abroad and occupied territories, eg Chechnya, and could do without the headache of alliance with Israel, unless perhaps it were accompanied by alliance with much-more-useful Turkey (Turkey is a pretty major nation that is still Israel-allied). I don't think having similar national-preservation ideologies is enough of a link; Israel has little to offer Russia.<br /><br />India, unlike Russia, is not an imperial power, and Israel can actually offer India useful stuff like nuclear tech. With both nations threatened by Islam they look like much more natural allies. The dominant ideology among the Indian elite still seems to be anti-white third world socialism, but a Hindu nationalist Indian leadership would have a natural ally in Israel.<br /><br />But the only way Israel would lose US support is if a far-left third-worldist government comes to power in the USA. This could happen eventually as the US browns (a browning supported by the US' pro-Israel Jewish elites!), but likely many decades away and it's hard to tell what the world might look like then or what the shake-out might be. Eg the EU is currently anti-Israel but if the US splits with Israel a future nationalist France might decide to pick up Israel as an anti-US ally, presumably despite the wishes of French Muslims. Or France might be dominated by an Islam-socialist axis and ally with an anti-Israel US.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72031801148604288762013-10-09T00:08:56.012-07:002013-10-09T00:08:56.012-07:00"Putin's done a fairly clever job of taki..."Putin's done a fairly clever job of taking down the Jewish oligarchs without annoying the Western Jewish media, so I'm sure he's calculating as much as he can."<br /><br />Yes, Putin's Affirmative Action in Corruption campaign has been pretty successful at making Russia's oligarchs look more like Russia, without setting off vicious backlashes within Russia or in the America.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3883533334367886352013-10-08T23:52:41.833-07:002013-10-08T23:52:41.833-07:00>> If anything, Israelis are with the liber...>> If anything, Israelis are with the liberal Jews in America in pushing a double standard whereby<br /><br />please, one valid Hebrew-language citation which supports this claim?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17933028528021950412013-10-08T21:36:39.179-07:002013-10-08T21:36:39.179-07:00Actually, Israel has lots of allies or indirect al...Actually, Israel has lots of allies or indirect allies. <br /><br />After the fall of USSR, the third world came to rely on US and EU for funds, and that meant dropping the stuff about 'Zionism is racism'. <br /><br />Europeans may be critical of some Israeli policies, but the main religion among Euros is Holocaust faith, and that means they can never be too harsh on Israel. In fact, Europeans are on the bandwagon of supporting sanctions against Iran while saying nothing about nukes in Israel. <br />Also, Jewish elites have lots of power in France and UK. And Eastern European nations like Poland and others that seek business ties with US and EU know they must be pro-Jewish and pro-Zionist or no dessert. <br /><br />As for Asia, Japan, S. Korea, Taiwan, and etc, know they rely on the US, and they know they better not mess with Jews for Jews control the US and will undermine good relations between US and Asian nations that denounce Jews. China is politically more independent, but economically, it relies on trade with US. It buys raw materials from Africa, but it must sell to US and EU. So, China knows not to mess with Jewish power. <br /><br />Since US and Israel are joined at the hip, all nations that rely on the US must follow the dictates of global Jewish policy. And if you do business with EU and US, you are indirectly doing business with Israel whose economy is integrated fully with the West. <br /><br />Even if many nations don't openly support or praise Israel, they must not criticize Israel or say much about Jewish power. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9097839575579916212013-10-08T21:30:32.652-07:002013-10-08T21:30:32.652-07:00Steve you and your readers are treading close to t...Steve you and your readers are treading close to the Walt-Mersheimer 3rd rail of foreign relations. Cost Walt his a@@. The US will never cut ties with Israel. We are the least antisemite country.<br /><br />I however wish we would take our toys and go home.Mountain Mavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01576976955563915561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71279527754274971332013-10-08T21:15:06.455-07:002013-10-08T21:15:06.455-07:00Hey! Don't badmouth Palau. The USA Capitol B...Hey! Don't badmouth Palau. The USA Capitol Building is based on one in Palau: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Capitol,_Melekeok,_Palau.jpgForeign Expertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85863851379848384802013-10-08T21:01:07.777-07:002013-10-08T21:01:07.777-07:00Diplomatic make-up sex between Slavs and Jews... s...Diplomatic make-up sex between Slavs and Jews... sounds gross, but it could happen.<br /><br />Unlike all other possible partners, the Russians have had a longer history of living and working with Jews. They may have been located more in the Pale of Settlement, but they still interacted with Russians more over history than with Indians, Chinese, Italians, Turks, or whoever else.<br /><br />Just checked the timing of pogroms over recent history, and there seems to be a roughly 110-year cycle. Peak levels of pogroms circa 1650, 1770, and 1880. There should have been another peak around 1990 -- perhaps the collapse of the Soviet Union gave Slavs something bigger to worry about, not to mention that Jews now had the option to fly the coop to Israel.<br /><br />At any rate, the US dumping Israel would still be at least a decade away. By that time, anti-Jewish feelings among Slavs would be at a relative low point, and falling. The Russian leaders wouldn't have to worry about rubbing their masses the wrong way by partnering with Israel until later in the century.agnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12967177967469961883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26042376902482121612013-10-08T20:43:04.852-07:002013-10-08T20:43:04.852-07:00Wow, ATBOTL is really an optimist. I want a shot o...Wow, ATBOTL is really an optimist. I want a shot of whatever he's drinking.CJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75285177274656692862013-10-08T20:22:19.597-07:002013-10-08T20:22:19.597-07:00I get the impression that while most Islamic count...<i>I get the impression that while most Islamic countries vouch their undying support for the Palestinian people in their struggle against the Zionist occupiers, the support is usually a mile wide and an inch deep. For the most part they consider the Palestinians a bunch of whining malcontents.</i><br /><br />Palestine is the Muslim world's version of Israel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41546446247235941912013-10-08T19:57:53.302-07:002013-10-08T19:57:53.302-07:00Even the most unbalanced theocrat would fear semi-...<i> Even the most unbalanced theocrat would fear semi-failed state Pakistan and their nukes</i><br /><br />Pakistan is the only nuclear state whose nuclear weapons are entirely under military control and can be used without a "go order" from the civil head of state.<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69687239664829190172013-10-08T19:35:22.977-07:002013-10-08T19:35:22.977-07:00Israel already has a close relationship with India...<i> Israel already has a close relationship with India. Many young Israelis travel to India after graduating from college, sort of a rite of passage.</i><br /><br />And they are not exactly helping Israel's reputation. <br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/na2bxy9" rel="nofollow">The problem with Israeli travelers</a><br /><br /><a href="http://tinyurl.com/kdvqe5b" rel="nofollow">Ambassadors of bad will</a><br /> Matranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43745200755327163002013-10-08T19:28:05.271-07:002013-10-08T19:28:05.271-07:00I could see them cutting a deal with Russia. It...I could see them cutting a deal with Russia. It's just too easy for China to cut deals with Muslim countries which hate America as a counterweight to the USA's power. Russia, on the other hand, well, they don't like the USA, but they don't like Muslims either.<br /><br />Putin's done a fairly clever job of taking down the Jewish oligarchs without annoying the Western Jewish media, so I'm sure he's calculating as much as he can. If the Muslims hate his guts anyway, he could use some money and brains.SFGnoreply@blogger.com