tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6363972763873927018..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Nelson Mandela, RIPUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7347691303687731562013-12-08T13:26:11.693-08:002013-12-08T13:26:11.693-08:00"Nonsense. You can have a meritocracy with eq..."Nonsense. You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunities for all, of every race, and provided it's a genuine meritocracy, you will still have "civilization." Power and positions will not be evenly distributed between races, of course, because of biological and cultural differences that lead to different abilities and aspirations. But none of apartheid's restrictive laws -- de jure racial separation, racial registration, prohibition of miscegenation, etc. are necessary. Such laws really were unfair."<br /><br />Yeah, definitely. The whole world can see it in post apartheid democratic, socially just South AfricaOrlandonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66246052074454883862013-12-07T20:01:46.905-08:002013-12-07T20:01:46.905-08:00No she will shack up with another relatively unkno...No she will shack up with another relatively unknown actor and become another tabloid staple. At least she won't enjoy walker's money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88079811776572236642013-12-07T03:22:56.901-08:002013-12-07T03:22:56.901-08:00"Hunsdon said: Because he was the one white d..."Hunsdon said: Because he was the one white dude who was comfortable in a multiracial gang!"<br /><br />Very impressive, let's commission the statue.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18775975897190757532013-12-06T22:58:51.157-08:002013-12-06T22:58:51.157-08:00"...recalls the events of 1987-1991, that hin...<i>"...recalls the events of 1987-1991, that hinge of history. After the Fall of the Berlin Wall in November 1989 discredited socialism..."</i><br /><br />South Africa itself played a not insignificant direct role in the fall of communism. They were the only "Western" power directly fighting Soviet, Cuban, and African troops for a long time. It was really too much for a small country like South Africa (which had been under arms embargo since 1977). But it was also a constant burden on the Soviets, who were also supporting other wars throughout Africa; particularly expensive also were the wars in Ethiopia, such as the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogaden_War" rel="nofollow">Ogaden war</a>.<br /><br />These battles with Soviets and South Africans wound down in 1988:<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cuito_Cuanavale" rel="nofollow">"... As in previous campaigns, planning and leadership was taken over by the Soviets and the higher ranks in the units were taken over by Soviet officers. ...<br /><br />... Soviet command did not include the Cuban forces ... The Soviets dismissed the advice of the Cubans...<br /><br />...U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs ... said that: ...The 1987 military campaign represented a stunning humiliation for the Soviet Union, its arms and its strategy."</a><br /><br /><br />I read a Russian historian of the Cold War who claimed that after the fall of Vietnam, the fall of the Soviet Union became assured when the Soviets over-extended themselves in Africa, in addition to Afghanistan. <br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operations_of_the_South_African_Border_War" rel="nofollow">List of operations of the South African Border War</a><br /><br />The West probably owes some thanks to the South Africans (likely including a significant number of black South Africans) who fought the Soviets and their allies. And we did learn from them and use all those anti-mine vehicles in Afghanistan and Iraq... <br /><br />South Africa built <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction" rel="nofollow">6 nuclear weapons</a>.<br /><br />In addition to anti-apartheid opprobrium, many leftists probably hated the old South Africa for it's active role in the Cold War and fighting and winning battles against Soviet equipped and led armies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2737377063394513932013-12-06T20:48:03.507-08:002013-12-06T20:48:03.507-08:00"The Boers would have been a million times be..."The Boers would have been a million times better off if they had just carved out a small area of South Africa for themselves and left the rest for all the other peoples of South Africa to figure out for themselves." - They'd be a lot better off had the british not conquered them after a brutal scorched earth campaign that included the use of concentration camps, and then flooded their country with foreign workers after their victory.<br /><br />South Africa's fate was not entirely self imposed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42547924602155668382013-12-06T20:16:44.214-08:002013-12-06T20:16:44.214-08:00You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunitie...<i>You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunities for all, of every race, and provided it's a genuine meritocracy, you will still have "civilization."</i><br /><br />That assumes that the group that finds itself at the bottom--that group that's at the bottom in every multiracial society--will be cool with that: "It's okay we're at the bottom. It's a meritocracy and we just don't measure up."Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19729586439998817522013-12-06T12:27:27.125-08:002013-12-06T12:27:27.125-08:00You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunitie...<i>You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunities for all, of every race, and provided it's a genuine meritocracy, you will still have "civilization." </i><br /><br />I would refer you to Alan Paton's <i>Cry the Beloved Country</i>, which is set in Natal and Johannesburg in 1946. There was tremendous anxiety about crime in and among South Africa's urban white population at the time. That was only one of the vectors which made Afrikaner particularism what it was, but it did serve to make laws which controlled the movements of the black population attractive to a great many people. <br /><br />In point of fact, Johannesburg is still horrendously insecure. Baghdad is safer. There are a few Latin American cities in its category, but that's it.Art Decohttp://wwrtc.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70064367458485325462013-12-06T12:06:27.287-08:002013-12-06T12:06:27.287-08:00The Boers would have been a million times better o...The Boers would have been a million times better off if they had just carved out a small area of South Africa for themselves and left the rest for all the other peoples of South Africa to figure out for themselves. South Africa is over four times the size of Arizona. Detaching an area the tenth of this in size would have given them a country bigger then Virginia. Based upon the sea for defense and trade they would have had a nice little place without the demographic headaches of a black majority to worry about. As it is, I doubt there will be any whites to speak of in South Africa in another thirty years. Demography is destiny. The Boers are the poster child for this saying. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23085710536806104842013-12-06T11:08:46.024-08:002013-12-06T11:08:46.024-08:00"Nonsense. You can have a meritocracy with eq..."Nonsense. You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunities for all, of every race, and provided it's a genuine meritocracy, you will still have "civilization."" - no, humans are irrational status seekers. It is not possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48626578244693979002013-12-06T10:32:32.946-08:002013-12-06T10:32:32.946-08:00anon:
>>"You can have a meritocracy wit...anon:<br />>>"You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunities for all, of every race, and provided it's a genuine meritocracy, you will still have "civilization."<<<br /><br />I guess you can have egalitarian _meritocracy_, but only if you don't have _democracy_! Two wolves and a sheep vote on what's for dinner...<br />Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28493806510838462842013-12-06T09:45:29.476-08:002013-12-06T09:45:29.476-08:00I notice all the encomiums for St. Nelson also eli...I notice all the encomiums for St. Nelson also elide the influence and actions of his murderous thug of a wife. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57335481684507603942013-12-06T09:20:42.742-08:002013-12-06T09:20:42.742-08:00Apartheid was a way for a civilized group of peopl...<i>Apartheid was a way for a civilized group of people to live among a sea of primitives. It was a good thing, if you're in favor of civilization.</i><br /><br />Nonsense. You can have a meritocracy with equal opportunities for all, of every race, and provided it's a genuine meritocracy, you will still have "civilization." Power and positions will not be evenly distributed between races, of course, because of biological and cultural differences that lead to different abilities and aspirations. But none of apartheid's restrictive laws -- de jure racial separation, racial registration, prohibition of miscegenation, etc. are necessary. Such laws really were unfair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38836516894120546272013-12-06T06:51:11.489-08:002013-12-06T06:51:11.489-08:00RIP? Statesman?
Are you daft?RIP? Statesman?<br /><br />Are you daft?PC Makes You Daftnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12537350371837811142013-12-06T06:50:06.156-08:002013-12-06T06:50:06.156-08:00Apartheid was a way for a civilized group of peopl...Apartheid was a way for a civilized group of people to live among a sea of primitives. It was a good thing, if you're in favor of civilization. OTOH, regardless of whether or not Mandela was a Communist, it's not unreasonable for him to oppose rule by another race, even a superior race. As for his post-apartheid racial moderation, he simply recognized that his own people were incapable of keeping the lights on and the toilets working. Discardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48636451003813399702013-12-06T04:09:46.012-08:002013-12-06T04:09:46.012-08:00Truth asked: But you can remember why we are supp...Truth asked: But you can remember why we are supposed to admire Paul Walker? <br /><br />Hunsdon said: Because he was the one white dude who was comfortable in a multiracial gang!Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16208717487306189162013-12-06T03:09:21.756-08:002013-12-06T03:09:21.756-08:00"All in all, the post-Communist world is a be..."All in all, the post-Communist world is a better one than the one in which the Soviet Union had 53,000 tanks."<br /><br />Probably better for the nations that lived under Soviet domination. But at this point, if I could go back to 1983, I would. Britain was a much freer country then, and barring WW3 it looked like the British people still had a future. Now we're not free and we're being replaced.Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27778567637530917262013-12-06T01:25:22.705-08:002013-12-06T01:25:22.705-08:00Who knows?, Steve.
So many things are up in the a...Who knows?, Steve.<br /><br />So many things are up in the air - and as we all know the course of history turns on the most unexpected hinge points.<br /><br />Saying all that,the only game in town is basically China. With certainty I can state that this century will be owned by China, and by mid century everything *but* Chian will be just an also-ran. Add to this fact that the USA will be majority 'enriched' and that the EU will have declined to economic, political and strategic insignificance.<br /><br />- And the predominant economic zeitgeist in China has been and will be not Friedmanite neoconnery, but something completely different. Dare I say it, but the phrase 'national socialism' has always seemd apt when describing the non-dogmatic, non-ideological political/economic model predicated on the sole objective of making the typical Chinese *citizen* affluent.<br /><br />Basically, the non-Chinese developed world has reverted back to the pre 19th century socilaist reformer settlement of squires, peasantry and jealously guarded wealth and assets for the few, whilst the rest are cast to the dogs. The western hard left - through their enthusiasm for uncontrolled immigration, aid and abet this process. The difference was that back in the 19th century thee was the spark, the anger, the consciousness and intelligence amongst the peasantry to change things, most democratically as it happened by such vehicles as the Indepenednt Labour Party.<br /> These days, the peasantry is chock-full of the dumb, the losers, the immigrants, women etc, so there's no hope for change there.<br /> Saying all that, history tells us that the over arrogant and over mighty, do, in fact, head for great falls - coming from the most unexpected quarters and in the most unexpected way. 'Tis the nature of things.<br /> Tentatively, I put my money on a general third-world immigrant descended revolt in the future western world, a revolt which might likely evolve into outright race war.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88718568086583819432013-12-05T22:22:34.799-08:002013-12-05T22:22:34.799-08:00I mean will any of them actually look at the condi...<b> I mean will any of them actually look at the condition of Black South Africans today compared to the period between Apartheid? </b><br /><br />In what way are black South Africans today worse off than under apartheid? Are their incomes down? Heath worse? Assets declining? WHat? Please elucidate with specifics...<br /><br /><b>How long will one have to maintain a media blackout until all the liberal wailing ceases and all the very predictable fawning in the editorials stop ? </b><br />Mandela is nothing special. White liberals are still fawning over JFK..<br /><br /><br /><b>Those guys came in, killed off the next batch of attempted looters, and the gated communities haven't had much trouble since. One phone call and a couple of jeeps roll up carrying some bros straight out of Zero Dark Thirty.</b><br />So these ex-Special forces Americans and Jews will solve the crime problems of South Africa if only the liberals would get out of the way?<br /><br /><b>A Manufactured, Synthetic Holy Man has been created by the corporate media, at the behest of the corporations, all for the betterment of corporate profits. </b><br />In what specific ways was Mandela a representative for "corporate profits?"<br /><br /><br /><b>I wonder if the MANDELA movie will dwell on Mandela's alliance with PLO and on Apartheid South Africa's alliance with Israel. </b><br /><br />In both cases Jews are involved?<br />Grover Proslingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75144688212349682992013-12-05T21:57:23.096-08:002013-12-05T21:57:23.096-08:00"See, when someone dies, Steve devotes a post..."See, when someone dies, Steve devotes a post to that person. But when Paul Walker died, Steve didn't until he was asked about it several times, and he didn't seem like he wanted to."<br /><br />Eugenics Now!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62590602843783796352013-12-05T21:55:58.942-08:002013-12-05T21:55:58.942-08:00"I was quite shocked when I read that Paul Wa..."I was quite shocked when I read that Paul Walker was killed in that car crash. But the news of Mandela's death leaves me strangely unmoved. I can't quite remember just why we were all supposed to admire him."<br /><br />But you can remember why we are supposed to admire Paul Walker? Maybe you were in love with his TOTALLEE DREEEMEY blue eyes?<br />Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31031860769742317062013-12-05T20:41:58.859-08:002013-12-05T20:41:58.859-08:00See, when someone dies, Steve devotes a post to th...<i>See, when someone dies, Steve devotes a post to that person. But when Paul Walker died, Steve didn't until he was asked about it several times, and he didn't seem like he wanted to.</i><br /><br />I cant rightly make out if you are being ironic?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64587983523767294592013-12-05T19:53:57.049-08:002013-12-05T19:53:57.049-08:00So an idiot like u is comparing a less than averag...So an idiot like u is comparing a less than average actor to a global political icon....really...GTFOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59237382138613862772013-12-05T19:50:31.751-08:002013-12-05T19:50:31.751-08:00Idiot...the current ANC president is Zulu, Jacob Z...Idiot...the current ANC president is Zulu, Jacob Zuma...many of the founders were Zulu...the party enjoys the largest support from the Zulu region of the country. The old man has been insignificant in national politics since 1999 when he left office...he had little power even before that, as his deputy then, Mbeki, is viewed as having been basically the prime minister of the country. The Zulus are the largest tribe with Xhosa's second...Old Man will be missed but little will change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23330265351006723332013-12-05T19:33:34.360-08:002013-12-05T19:33:34.360-08:00I'm a bit young to know much about early Mande...I'm a bit young to know much about early Mandela (I of course had to go to Google and Wiki to read about his violent tendencies and Communist ties), and apparently so has the media. What everyone remembers is his imprisonment and then sainthood post release. What I also remember is seeing him lobby for the release of the Lockerbie bomber. Helping the "deathly ill" Abdelbaset al-Megrahi get freed only to live for almost 3 more years is enough for me to question the hagiographies.Anon87noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14228472169072296662013-12-05T19:13:13.475-08:002013-12-05T19:13:13.475-08:00This Paul Walker thing is the most surreal thing t...<i>This Paul Walker thing is the most surreal thing to ever happen on iSteve</i><br /><br />Yes, it's almost as if people on the Internet are misusing its powers for humorserious businessnoreply@blogger.com