tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post651840501663408820..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Why Lorenzo Pagina and Sergio Brino had to found Google in MexicoUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31949694832724232072012-05-29T21:03:32.121-07:002012-05-29T21:03:32.121-07:00"Without Jews, the world would not have had n...<i>"Without Jews, the world would not have had nuclear weapons..."</i><br /><br />Doubtful, poke around the history and delete everyone who wasn't Jewish, see what happens. Constant ethnic cheer-leading doesn't help understand history.<br /><br /><i>"Did America need the Atomic Bomb, the Hydrogen Bomb, the Nuclear Submarine?"</i> <br /><br />Independent of any link between this question and the content of this thread, looking back at the overall record, it's likely that America probably would have done okay without them. It's not like we were using nukes a lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91901996353627945932012-05-29T07:23:26.684-07:002012-05-29T07:23:26.684-07:00Without Jews, the world would not have had nuclear...Without Jews, the world would not have had nuclear weapons, at least not for another fifty to a hundred years. Neither the US nor anyone else, since all the other nuclear programs were largely based on ours. Simply the proof that it was possible and a general, thumbnail sketch of how they worked-which, as Howard Morland showed, was available in encyclopedias in the early Eisenhower years-was an enormous impetus to nuclear development elsewhere. <br /><br /> As for Rickover, he was a martinet and, like J. Edgar Hoover, a self centered manipulator who should have been cashiered thirty years before his final departure. He ruined the careers of a lot of good men and created a so called "safety culture" that in reality wasn't that safe-Thresher and Scorpion were lost and a number of fatalities occurred in onshore Navy nuclear faclities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56761319560014978162012-05-29T01:01:16.686-07:002012-05-29T01:01:16.686-07:00But did Americans need them?
Did America need th...<i>But did Americans need them? </i><br /><br />Did America need the Atomic Bomb, the Hydrogen Bomb, the Nuclear Submarine? The 3 men considered their "fathers" are respectively Oppenheimer, Teller and Ryckover. All jews. <br /><br />Consider also the very high fraction of American Nobel Prizes that have been won by jews. <br /><br />Jews have been major contributors to America's power and prosperity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14152560408112765522012-05-28T20:59:19.364-07:002012-05-28T20:59:19.364-07:00"Not really. An American by legal definition ...<i>"Not really. An American by legal definition is someone who is a citizen of the American Republic. You obviously have a different definition which you are reluctant to share, probably because it is illegal."</i><br /><br />Yes. I'm thinking of Americans who think of themselves as Americans first and not as something else first who just happen to have American citizenship and then engages in constant ethnic chauvinism. Don't kid yourself that there is not a lot of citizenship of convenience going round. It's also convenient that many counties these days support dual citizenship. I imagine that legally everyone is required to drive under the posted speed limit. I hear there are laws against illegal immigration as well, but that apparently doesn't seem to be too big a deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73765660960861987732012-05-28T19:44:56.174-07:002012-05-28T19:44:56.174-07:00Some degree of mathematical ability is necessary b...<i>Some degree of mathematical ability is necessary but not sufficient to do well in the USAMO. </i><br /><br />Mathematical ability is not sufficient to do well in a math contest? What does this even mean and how does this excuse the poor performance of non-asians?<br /><br /><br /><i>Show us the matching top-level Asian domination in the real world. You can't.</i><br /><br />Go look at the names on recent patents awarded to Americans, the names of scholars and researchers in the latest math and science journals, the names of engineers in high tech corporations etc then come back and report what you found.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12519828603422317342012-05-28T19:22:43.516-07:002012-05-28T19:22:43.516-07:00It's one of those "if you have to ask, yo...<i>It's one of those "if you have to ask, you don't know and you aren't one" things.</i><br /><br />Not really. An American by legal definition is someone who is a citizen of the American Republic. You obviously have a different definition which you are reluctant to share, probably because it is illegal. <br /><br />To you those Asian-American kids dominating in math and science are "outsiders". On what legal basis do you deem them not Americans?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33179990125389173822012-05-28T19:13:24.835-07:002012-05-28T19:13:24.835-07:00The Asian domination in the USA Math Olympiad is a...<i>The Asian domination in the USA Math Olympiad is actually more overwhelming. Only 2 of the 14 winners are non-asians. What is your excuse for that?</i><br /><br />What is there to explain? Asians are grinds. Some degree of mathematical ability is necessary but not sufficient to do well in the USAMO. Show us the matching top-level Asian domination in the real world. You can't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26690554172062509342012-05-28T19:12:14.236-07:002012-05-28T19:12:14.236-07:00You take things like the Civil Rights Movement to ...<i>You take things like the Civil Rights Movement to mean Americans are a defeated people </i><br /><br />That is as absurd as saying the Civil War means Americans are a defeated people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3998041196416384152012-05-28T18:33:47.187-07:002012-05-28T18:33:47.187-07:00"Who are the real Americans then?"
It&#...<i>"Who are the real Americans then?"</i><br /><br />It's one of those "if you have to ask, you don't know and you aren't one" things. It's not arguments or pieces of paper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39139974189124369812012-05-28T18:25:48.420-07:002012-05-28T18:25:48.420-07:00"Not true. America was helped by plenty of pe...<i>"Not true. America was helped by plenty of people once considered "outsiders". The primary example being Jews."</i><br /><br />But did Americans need them? It's one thing to say they helped, it's another to imply that if not for the benevolence of all those fine upstanding outsiders those poor Americans would still be trying to invent things like English...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76406737858116760022012-05-28T18:13:08.094-07:002012-05-28T18:13:08.094-07:00Hum, your evidence is the Intel Science Talent sea...<i>Hum, your evidence is the Intel Science Talent search. </i><br /><br />And the Math Olympiad, which you conveniently ignore since the excuses you use do not apply there. <br /><br />The Asian domination in the USA Math Olympiad is actually more overwhelming. Only 2 of the 14 winners are non-asians. What is your excuse for that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38218194871721777182012-05-28T18:06:07.002-07:002012-05-28T18:06:07.002-07:00"You can't really expect them to care abo...<i>"You can't really expect them to care about people like you. And people like you do not really represent America.<br /><br />Your America was defeated in the Civil War and tby the Civil Rights Movement."</i><br /><br /><br />So I take it you don't care for a lot of those evil Americans. Perhaps your program becomes clear. You take things like the Civil Rights Movement to mean Americans are a defeated people over which everyone in the world gets to have their say. Now that sounds like a real program for peace and harmony. How do you intend to enforce your attitudes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71020605818272329212012-05-28T17:41:02.438-07:002012-05-28T17:41:02.438-07:00"Intel Science Talent search winner" = &..."Intel Science Talent search winner" = "my parents did my science fair project for me", or at least "my parents found a professional scientist to 'mentor' me (do my science fair project for me)" <br /><br />I'm absolutely shocked these winners are Asian/Indian all out of proportion to real world Asian/Indian achievement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28210651494703962362012-05-28T15:47:52.209-07:002012-05-28T15:47:52.209-07:00Americans (as the term used to be understood) had ...<i>Americans (as the term used to be understood) had plenty of IQ horsepower without "help" from any outsiders</i><br /><br />Not true. America was helped by plenty of people once considered "outsiders". The primary example being Jews.<br /><br /><i>"Home team" implies people from your own home, not halfway around the world. </i><br /><br />Do you consider blacks and hispanics part of your home team then? Let's be intellectually honest here. <br /><br />America itself was settled by people from far away, and distance has becoming meaningless since then. It is really about race, isn't it? <br /><br /><i>They're not Americans, at least as the phrase used to be understood, before the anti-Americans deliberately set out to twist the meaning of the word. They're not Americans, they're Asians."</i><br /><br />Who are the real Americans then? The Saxon underclass of England who first colonized it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79590026909063767552012-05-28T08:33:35.975-07:002012-05-28T08:33:35.975-07:00"Smart people want an elite of their own ethn...<i>"Smart people want an elite of their own ethnicity"<br /><br />How many people of your own ethnicity do you see among these young american geniuses?</i><br /><br />Hum, your evidence is the Intel Science Talent search. Intel's business is integrated circuit engineering (ICE), I hear these days they call it "India-Chinese Engineering" for a reason. Why would I expect these people to care about Americans? I'd expect them to have attitudes like yours. <br /><br />(If it's not clear, it sounds like you don't care much for Americans; "Of course we're better than you, you bad person, see this list, doesn't this win the argument? So you better like it!")<br /><br />Intel SciFair is typically graded by a collection of VP and engineering types from silicon valley companies. Often the very people profiting from human pipelining. It's considerably subjective. (And yes, I've been a judge; and no, the contestants typically aren't clearly "geniuses", I've come to hate that word.) Sadly, it's reached the point where you don't know whether results are based on merit or ethnic nepotism (and a lot of parental coaching) Can you see why this might be a problem? <br /><br />Like a lot of multinationals today, Intel probably considers itself a true multinational (and they'll tell you that for sure in their diversity literature), not an American company, except when it's convenient. The ethnic pipelining hasn't helped.<br /><br />What your attitude says is I can't trust your ethnicity, whatever it is, and I don't think it's good if a lot of Americans are people with attitudes like you, regardless of anything else. You seem fundamentally hostile to Americans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18164311411445338212012-05-28T07:43:07.589-07:002012-05-28T07:43:07.589-07:00"For the HBD crowd IQ is destiny."
And..."For the HBD crowd IQ is destiny." <br /><br />And the HBD crowd, if they're intellectually honest and not just shilling for their own Asian coracialists, would admit that Americans (as the term used to be understood) had plenty of IQ horsepower without "help" from any outsiders.<br /><br />"Based on their worldview why doesn't it make sense to empower the home team by adding the highest IQ people from around the world?"<br /><br />Because then it's not the home team. "Home team" implies people from your own home, not halfway around the world. <br /><br /><br /><br />"How many people of your own ethnicity do you see among these young american geniuses?"<br /><br />They're not Americans, at least as the phrase used to be understood, before the anti-Americans deliberately set out to twist the meaning of the word. They're not Americans, they're Asians.JSMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87081259619716151542012-05-28T00:08:58.927-07:002012-05-28T00:08:58.927-07:00Smart people want an elite of their own ethnicity
...<i>Smart people want an elite of their own ethnicity</i><br /><br />How many people of your own ethnicity do you see among these young american geniuses?<br /><br />http://apps.societyforscience.org/sts/71sts/finalists.asp<br /><br />http://amc.maa.org/usamo/2012/2012_USAJMO_Top14&HonMent.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90078355598303686082012-05-27T22:30:30.890-07:002012-05-27T22:30:30.890-07:00sillier killers
Hahaha. Wonder if the anon (pleas...<i> sillier killers</i><br /><br />Hahaha. Wonder if the anon (please, be smart and clever enough to come up with a name. You have no idea how many other people are pretending to be you) will know what I meant to type.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24335723864520170802012-05-27T18:22:10.279-07:002012-05-27T18:22:10.279-07:00Anonymous said...
An intellectually honest HBDer w...<i>Anonymous said...<br />An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice at the thought of a high IQ elite. </i><br /><br />Silliness. Must an 'intellectually honest HBDer' rejoice for smarter rapists, theives, con artists, and sillier killers? If not, why?<br /><br />I would rejoice at the coming of brighter trolls.robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88636026919553376592012-05-27T09:24:03.699-07:002012-05-27T09:24:03.699-07:00I don't know about that. The HBD crowd sure se...<i>I don't know about that. The HBD crowd sure seems obsessed with IQ.<br /><br />If it isn't primarily about IQ what is it about?</i><br /><br />It's about, mainly, group differences existing and often having a biological, usually genetic, explanation.<br /><br />IQ is pretty easily measured, and important, and looks robustly heritable, and the between group differences look heritable and genetic, so it comes up often.<br /><br />But most of the people interested in HBD generally admit the possibility of other between group differences, even though we can't measure them.<br /><br />People interested in HBD have varying responses to between group differences in genes. Using them to bolster a kind of ethnic-nationalist political philosophy is one of those (and pretty common), and not particularly wrong or anything (either neither placing no value or lots of value on ethnic nations is particularly wrong (in the sense of being irrational), provided they more or less exist as entities).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38459475603203483672012-05-26T22:03:05.610-07:002012-05-26T22:03:05.610-07:00Japan doesn't import high-IQ Chinese, China do...<i>Japan doesn't import high-IQ Chinese, China doesn't import high-IQ Indians, Israel doesn't import high-IQ Chinese or Japanese or Indians, etc.</i><br /><br />Japan, China and Israel were not founded on the basis of IQ. <br /><br />For the HBD crowd IQ is destiny. Based on their worldview why doesn't it make sense to empower the home team by adding the highest IQ people from around the world?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84073710152089261262012-05-26T21:39:22.346-07:002012-05-26T21:39:22.346-07:00Human BioDiversity != IQ fetishism
I don't k...<i>Human BioDiversity != IQ fetishism </i><br /><br />I don't know about that. The HBD crowd sure seems obsessed with IQ.<br /><br />If it isn't primarily about IQ what is it about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21994762482477196032012-05-26T21:27:34.289-07:002012-05-26T21:27:34.289-07:00"An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice...<i>"An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice at the thought of a high IQ elite."</i><br /><br />Hum, time to try the old change-of-variables re-phrase test:<br /><br />"An intellectually honest [black] would rejoice at the thought of a [white] elite"<br /><br />Guess not. We should keep it simple and just look after our own interests. It's really not something for which argument is appropriate. Words ultimately are not reality. All too often, just an opportunity for confusion and error, often deliberate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56399641773662793692012-05-26T21:16:28.615-07:002012-05-26T21:16:28.615-07:00"An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice...<i>"An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice at the thought of a high IQ elite."</i><br /><br />Not if it causes their extinction in the not-so-long run, no?<br /><br />Unlike most of the places where a lot of these "foreign elites" are coming from, the US has a long track record of world-class success to prove that it did just fine without them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85791258407332719972012-05-26T17:27:01.115-07:002012-05-26T17:27:01.115-07:00An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice at th...<i>An intellectually honest HBDer would rejoice at the thought of a high IQ elite.</i><br /><br />Nonsense. Human BioDiversity != IQ fetishism.<br /><br />Besides, "cognitively elite" populatins don't follow "cognitive elitism" either, so why should anyone? Japan doesn't import high-IQ Chinese, China doesn't import high-IQ Indians, Israel doesn't import high-IQ Chinese or Japanese or Indians, etc.<br /><br />Smart people want an elite of their own ethnicity. That way, the elite is more likely to be friend than enemy. IQ fetishists may want to improve the IQ of their enemies - I don't know - but people with a modicum of sense do not.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com