tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6546350187352611582..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Hunters and GatherersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32944349289276481122010-08-27T18:17:03.103-07:002010-08-27T18:17:03.103-07:00Bowling is like hunting AND gathering. The pins ar...Bowling is like hunting AND gathering. The pins are gathered and then hunted down. Again and again. <br /><br />Baseball is like gathering too in a way. If the object of soccer or football is to penetrate the opponent's territory and score over on his side, hitters in baseball go around the diamond and return to the home plate. It's like they went off to gather stuff to bring it back home. Points are scored by gathering yourself back home than by invading the opponent's territory. <br />This may explain why women would rather play softball(a variant of baseball)more than basketball or football. <br /><br />And golf is gathering-ish too, in some ways. After you first hit the ball far out onto the course, you have to gather it into a hole. <br /><br />And synchronized swimming is gathering-ish. It's like a bunch of girls diving under water to find oysters and other stuff to eat. <br /><br />And gymnastics is scored in a gathering-ish way. Each person goes out and does her routine and then the scores are gathered for the total.dsfadfdfafnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26688067069929664752010-08-25T09:46:10.570-07:002010-08-25T09:46:10.570-07:00"Mens' seem to out perform women at the h..."Mens' seem to out perform women at the highest levels (albeit many of them are male-female hybrids)."<br /><br />Chimerism is fascinating. Is it known whether the rate of homosexuality is higher among in-vitro fertilized kids?Curvaceous Carbon-based Life Formnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58636225729078386472010-08-25T09:43:01.381-07:002010-08-25T09:43:01.381-07:00men do seem more keen to show off than women, who ...<i>men do seem more keen to show off than women, who seem more keen to observe and evaluate.</i> <br /><br /><br />An alarm bell should have gone off in Hanson's mind as he wrote than sentence. Really? Men are more keen to show off than are women? Women prefer observing to being observed?Severnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25332482174061026602010-08-25T09:27:04.029-07:002010-08-25T09:27:04.029-07:00The Inupiat Eskimos have a cool sport: the muskra...The Inupiat Eskimos have a cool sport: the muskrat-skinning contest. Each contestant gets a pile of (dead) muskrats and an ulu knife. Whoever skins the most muskrats in 3 minutes wins. Women nearly always win big contests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66388877164728819962010-08-25T08:59:44.059-07:002010-08-25T08:59:44.059-07:00"Sports are about men demonstrating how good ..."Sports are about men demonstrating how good they are at endurance, fighting and hunting"<br /><br /><br />Sigh. Not any more. Sports are about the fine finger control of of men turned sofa slugs... stuffing more chips and salsa into their already bulging-over-their-belt, pressing their remote control buttons at lightning speed.<br /><br />Most young boys know nothing of hunting and fishing, of carpentry and cars, don't know a flat head screwdriver from a Phillips, nor do their dads. Of course, many don't know their dads...but that's another subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30773805002687270822010-08-25T08:55:37.527-07:002010-08-25T08:55:37.527-07:00isn't the pawnshop show on the History channel...isn't the pawnshop show on the History channel a gathering show.. but one that probably appeals more to men?? given the topics (guns, antique cars etc) coverednsamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56689810250674391222010-08-25T08:30:32.654-07:002010-08-25T08:30:32.654-07:00Shopping is an fact reparations for gathering. Whi...Shopping is an fact reparations for gathering. While the men folk where off, happy as hell, chasing a giraffe the women squated in the dirt and dug for roots. Hardly fair.<br /><br />Ancient pre-history women nursed a grudge. Modern shopping is payback, long delayed but savored all the more for the wait.<br /><br />AlbertosaurusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81645018401211411522010-08-25T07:38:42.147-07:002010-08-25T07:38:42.147-07:00"Hunting, gathering, meh. Let's not forge..."Hunting, gathering, meh. Let's not forget kvetching, the all-important skill at which You Know Whos of both sexes excel."<br /><br />Following the loical boasts common here, me must excel at the extreme end of kvetching, as at everything else (math, dress designing), not strictly anatomically gender-specific. You can't have a decent soccer game if somebody isn't kvetching to himself about who else has ball. I think warfare follows a similar principle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85500243838155448282010-08-25T07:03:47.193-07:002010-08-25T07:03:47.193-07:00"So, we have plenty of gathering games - they..."So, we have plenty of gathering games - they're just not 'sports'."<br /><br />A lawsuit filed against ESPN could fix this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3207760760477872010-08-25T06:11:34.983-07:002010-08-25T06:11:34.983-07:00Orienteering?Orienteering?Candynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77736706134336763492010-08-25T05:44:32.190-07:002010-08-25T05:44:32.190-07:00I live near Galesburg, IL and it is the same here....I live near Galesburg, IL and it is the same here. Husbands hunting and wives gathering on Michigan Avenue in Chicago!Dahindanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85101129727833942982010-08-25T03:47:29.180-07:002010-08-25T03:47:29.180-07:00If you want a glimpse of Woman the Gatherer, in a ...If you want a glimpse of Woman the Gatherer, in a circle digging up yams or whatever, just look at a women's sewing circle. Highly atavistic.<br /><br />David CollardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36436823962399277342010-08-25T03:19:09.215-07:002010-08-25T03:19:09.215-07:00Gathering competition:
* Antique Roadshow
* Iro...Gathering competition: <br /><br />* Antique Roadshow<br />* Iron Chef<br />* Design Competitions (clothes, interior decorating, remodel)<br /><br />Mens' seem to out perform women at the highest levels (albeit many of them are male-female hybrids).Mr. Simply Fabulousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36644844958735056752010-08-25T01:08:56.429-07:002010-08-25T01:08:56.429-07:00Steve, next time you're in Manhattan, I can sh...Steve, next time you're in Manhattan, I can show you just how demanding and far from trivial shopping can be. You may come to enjoy this improvised hunter-gathering activity more than you realize. ;-)Le Sigh...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8986615182063793032010-08-25T00:48:27.061-07:002010-08-25T00:48:27.061-07:00Scavenger Hunt<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavenger_hunt" rel="nofollow">Scavenger Hunt</a>ehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51528360377642375662010-08-25T00:28:01.077-07:002010-08-25T00:28:01.077-07:00@Erik K: Cool take on baseball as resource-gatheri...@Erik K: Cool take on baseball as resource-gathering under siege. It fits well with the tone of George Carlin's baseball v. football bit.robert61noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88025511481369280832010-08-25T00:16:56.076-07:002010-08-25T00:16:56.076-07:00"visual search and fine finger control"
..."visual search and fine finger control"<br /><br />I love how anything that has anything to do with women is ridiculously simplified...<br /><br />Gathering isn't something one just randomly walks around and does every day.<br /><br />It involves all kinds of memory, information retention, reasoning, future probability calculation, you name it. And tons of cooperation and negotiation, such as when certain families get to harvest certain trees over the generations or when burning hillsides to harvest seeds and keep down trees. <br /><br />YOU trying being at the right place at the right time to harvest enough wild plants to live off of. It aint gonna happen by visual search and fine finger control 'skills' alone.<br /><br />And once again, there is not a shred of evidence that women are better at "visual search" or "fine finger control."Isabelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46600156225051576462010-08-24T22:48:45.048-07:002010-08-24T22:48:45.048-07:00Ha! What a great insight!Ha! What a great insight!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32606520694998304062010-08-24T22:41:49.150-07:002010-08-24T22:41:49.150-07:00Hunting, gathering, meh. Let's not forget kvet...Hunting, gathering, meh. Let's not forget kvetching, the all-important skill at which You Know Whos of both sexes excel.Shlomo Silvergolddiamondsteinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2845901628029239202010-08-24T22:11:04.463-07:002010-08-24T22:11:04.463-07:00Sports are about men demonstrating how good they a...Sports are about men demonstrating how good they are at endurance, fighting and hunting , not about their skill at being able to pick fruits and roots (hint: that´s woman stuff, and women don´t have to prove themselves to men much beyond looking pretty). <br /><br />About the MMORPG (I.e. World of Warcraft, etc.) comments, MMORPG:s are also mostly hunter-gatherer simulators, with pretend hunting (killing stuff) being the main focus, but gathering (herbs, ores, etc.) also makes an appearance. <br /><br />The reason that MMORPGS are attractive to losers is not that they emphasize gathering over hunting (they do not, they are mostly hunting/warfare simulators), but rather that they allow you to escape reality in a pretty comprehensive way (which is extra nice if you are a loser). <br /><br />, AnonFabiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83135321112956985792010-08-24T22:07:48.017-07:002010-08-24T22:07:48.017-07:00Video games require visual search and fine finger ...Video games require visual search and fine finger control, but I assume that those are male-dominated as well.Giant Attitudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16223554931580929708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3992972200535367602010-08-24T21:56:24.204-07:002010-08-24T21:56:24.204-07:00Baseball is, in a certain sense, a gatherer sport....Baseball is, in a certain sense, a gatherer sport. The symbolism behind baseball is that your "home" is under siege. Your enemy tries to break down your walls by hurling rocks (baseballs) at it. If you can deflect the rocks/baseballs, you can leave "home" to gather food. Since the enemy is still looking for you, you have to hide behind trees (bases). Every time you return "home" with food that you've gathered, your team benefits/scores.Eric K.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58723997018446081462010-08-24T21:34:22.008-07:002010-08-24T21:34:22.008-07:00Saving money.
Hoarding money.
Scrooge was a gath...Saving money.<br /><br />Hoarding money.<br /><br />Scrooge was a gatherer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65496901708631638042010-08-24T21:03:59.991-07:002010-08-24T21:03:59.991-07:00There used to be a show called Supermarket Sweep, ...There used to be a show called Supermarket Sweep, which was a competitive shopping show. The ladies answered trivia about supermarket items and then the final part of each show was when the ladies raced around the store trying to load the most expensive cart. Like one of the commenters said, gathering is not as much about competition as hunting and so the show wasn't a big deal.<br /><br />Women seem to be more into competitive nesting. There are shows that rate how well money was spent on remodels and that type of thing.Couchscientistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70554718869836895192010-08-24T21:03:08.042-07:002010-08-24T21:03:08.042-07:00Knitting.Knitting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com