tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6633469777329672902..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: More on David StarkeyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62164735578763509182011-08-15T17:01:46.932-07:002011-08-15T17:01:46.932-07:00Morgan is a hateful character, a known phone hacke...Morgan is a hateful character, a known phone hacker, disseminator of obviously forged photographs designed to damage the British military, crooked dealer in shares and a fantasist whose memoirs are full of fabricated material designed to make him look like a friend of the rich and famous (very few of whom can stand to be in the same room as him, I suspect). He is repulsively smug, and essentially a joke figure these days. Peston is a BBC correspondent of some substance but can come across as a self-important buffoon. He is not paid to opine on social affairs or racial politics so I doubt many people will take his pronouncements seriously.<br /><br />Starkey himself might be described as a blowhard - he is deliberately abrasive and usually gets into at least one bitch-fight per television appearance. Sometimes he expresses strong views merely to cause trouble and get attention (though not in this instance). Don't praise him too highly - on economic matters he sometimes sounds like a heartless neo-liberal to whom people are mere units and national borders an irrelevance. Though I've not heard him express these views for a few years so perhaps he no longer holds them.<br /><br />I'm confident he will survive this episode and prosper from it - he is "box office" and I don't think this will reduce demand for him on the tv at all. Being gay and now quite old probably shields him a little bit from criticism, but he doesn't make a big deal of his sexuality and it is rarely commented on.Londonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26997251659872097462011-08-15T06:37:06.914-07:002011-08-15T06:37:06.914-07:00"The man came in with a lot of hype and ambit..."The man came in with a lot of hype and ambition to do something, but now he's just filling a seat."<br /><br />No. He came in full cooperation and had been chosen many years earlier. His only ambition was to denigrate America according to globalist plans--for some reason he hated rthe U.S. even as he milked it for all it was worth.In short: blacks need whites; whites don't need blacks. That psychology is going on in Obama, at a political level and exacerbated by a weird background. It breeds hate. <br />Obama wasn't elected; like all presidents in recent decades,he was annointed. These things are NEVER left to chance--presidents are selected and B.O. was involved in CIA activities for years. His apparent invisibility at Columbia (hired investigators proved in NY court in May 2009, that he was never a student there) was due to activities in Pakistan where he traveled on an Indonesian passport. He knew exactly what was going on and got money and prestige in return. He doesn't create any policy or do much of anything now (I think he's proven to be even more inept and incapable than the handlers had expected; even Bush II kept up a better front) except read from a teleprompter, make idiotic statements about the Israeli situation, watch basketball and party on the taxpayers' dime. He doesn't have a bad deal. I think their getting tired of trying to cover for him though. Must be exhausting, he and his 57 states. His Atty Holder who only works for "his people." Eew what a nightmare crew. He says this about the country to which he, a Jamaican mixed-race, owes his entire success? They are natural dictators more so than any people on earth. In Africa, whole villages are slaughtered and torched if they don't vote for the man with the most power. It happens all the time.<br /><br />You want to feel sorry for anybody, feel sorry for the people getting sent to foreign wars. While he doesn't have much power in starting or stopping them, he doesn't give a damn either. But really, only presidents who have been soldiers themselves care as a rule. He's just even more smirky than most for even less reason.<br />Feel sorry for this deliberate liar?<br />Obama would just as leave eat you as an appetizer.skeffingtonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64497838854104343142011-08-14T20:20:13.260-07:002011-08-14T20:20:13.260-07:00"The 60s fucked the Boomers all up."
A ..."The 60s fucked the Boomers all up."<br /><br />A goodly portion of the Boomers were barely (or not even) teens when the 60s ended.stari_momaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43256873854130593642011-08-14T20:18:56.351-07:002011-08-14T20:18:56.351-07:00"gays are more likely to get beat up in the b..."gays are more likely to get beat up in the black community than even in a white conservative one."<br /><br />*Everyone* is more likely to get beat up in the black community than even in a white conservative one. Most certainly including blacks.stari_momaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1719895159398529862011-08-14T19:14:38.140-07:002011-08-14T19:14:38.140-07:00Good for him and standing up for himself. He'...Good for him and standing up for himself. He's a man's man. Real men stand by their truly held beliefs and don't get shouted or bullied down.Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43510583254633354772011-08-14T18:24:50.160-07:002011-08-14T18:24:50.160-07:00It's a bit disgusting that a 66-year-old man w...It's a bit disgusting that a 66-year-old man with his career on the line just stood up to the entire politically correct infrastructure on British television and the most you idiots can do is start bashing gays.<br /><br />No wonder conservatives keep losing. Get a clue. Starkey can screw his boyfriend on the floor of my living room, for all I care. The man is a hero.Jack Aubreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64998695347087075182011-08-14T18:11:46.355-07:002011-08-14T18:11:46.355-07:00LemmusLemmus: "Thing is, David Starkey knows...LemmusLemmus: "Thing is, David Starkey knows that, of course. I've watched the clip twice, and whatever one thinks of his remarks, it is obvious that the man is intelligent and eloquent. Also, he had laid out what he was going to say. He knew what he was doing."<br /><br />I think you may be suggesting that Starkey is a race realist. That doesn't count as a 'gotcha' around here.<br />Gilbert P.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37900408248118192732011-08-14T18:08:37.922-07:002011-08-14T18:08:37.922-07:00"Gays are often intimidated by machismo and t..."Gays are often intimidated by machismo and thuggery<br /><br />As opposed to straight people who just adore thuggery and looting and vandalism? Seriously, WTF?<br /><br /><br />gays are more likely to get beat up in the black community than even in a white conservative one.<br /><br />Dear God, you're stupid. Just shut up already."<br /><br />Chortle..chortle!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4796691608395926922011-08-14T16:13:04.851-07:002011-08-14T16:13:04.851-07:00Anon said - Liberals say more blacks need to act w...Anon said - <i>Liberals say more blacks need to act white in order to succeed. </i><br /><br />WEll yes and no. Mostly they pretend that there are no differences.<br /><br />This last week has been a rolling MSM denial that there are any differences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54086444511338558282011-08-14T16:06:44.495-07:002011-08-14T16:06:44.495-07:00Piers Morgan is an imbecile. We should deport him ...<i>Piers Morgan is an imbecile. We should deport him back to Britain.</i><br /><br />No please dont, we dont want him back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12776759379982881902011-08-14T15:51:33.551-07:002011-08-14T15:51:33.551-07:00Why don't you walk up to one and tell him that...<i>Why don't you walk up to one and tell him that, dumb-ass?<br /><br />I get the impression that the typical ISteve reader knows as much about blacks, gays, etc as he has been able to glean from watching TV.<br /></i><br /><br />If a gay guy dresses up in leather and a skin tight pink thong, then shakes his booty everywhere during the gay pride parade.... he's effeminate. Doesn't matter how much muscle he has. Gays, like women, are highly exhibionistic and and narcissitic. <br /><br />The scarcity of gays in professional sports is a good indicator of their feminine side. The muscles they build are not to look tough tough or macho, but to pick up men. That's a reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72628558890323696912011-08-14T15:45:51.162-07:002011-08-14T15:45:51.162-07:00What? No mention of Obama? And his Cambridge cop &...<i>What? No mention of Obama? And his Cambridge cop "overreaction"?<br /><br />Meh, maybe "bastard" is too tough a word for the irrelevant Prez, come to think of it. No one's listening to him and his blather anymore.<br /></i><br /><br />Barack Obama is pretty irrelevant at this point. There are forces more powerful than him that drive what happens in Washington DC. The man came in with a lot of hype and ambition to do something, but now he's just filling a seat. <br /><br />I actually sorta felt sorry for the guy after AIPAC and Netanyahu slapped him around a few months ago... while the Democrats competed with the Republicans to see who could outapplaud Netanyahu's speech. <br /><br />Really I think Obama just seems tired and weary. So I lay off the poor old chap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33463594301326512872011-08-14T14:19:15.347-07:002011-08-14T14:19:15.347-07:00Most of the muscular gays are on steroids.Most of the muscular gays are on steroids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16052800881511831522011-08-14T13:28:09.534-07:002011-08-14T13:28:09.534-07:00For instance Whiskey's claim above that Starke...<i>For instance Whiskey's claim above that Starkey is toast because of 'white women' might make some sense in a US context, but in the UK the Daily Mail is the mainstream white woman's paper. Most English women don't feel any particular need to abase themselves before blacks.</i><br /><br />Nope. It's an either-or thing. Whiskey's stuff is "in the blood." Human nature. Written into the genes. Otherwise he's just describing cultural factors and that's not at all the impression I get. He can correct me if I'm wrong. But if I am, that brings cultural programming, social engineering, and the power of the media into the argument and my impression is those are Whiskey's Kryptonite. That's why he concocted his grand theories in the first place - to protect the disproportionately Ashkenazi American media and culture-creating elite from criticism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23617027489220224602011-08-14T13:23:18.771-07:002011-08-14T13:23:18.771-07:00Not all Boomers accept the standard PC-integration...<i>Not all Boomers accept the standard PC-integrationist view of race. Certainly not the group I grew up among.</i><br /><br />The 60s fucked the Boomers all up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80428224651965108502011-08-14T12:42:01.838-07:002011-08-14T12:42:01.838-07:00On the whole, there is a problem in the black comm...<i>On the whole, there is a problem in the black community as a whole. It doesn't mean every black person; it means what mainly passes for black culture. Why can't people say this?</i> <br /><br />Actually, a black guy said this to me in Berkeley in '96. A fight broke out in a basketball game, and guy next to me goes, "black people are messed up, man."not a hackernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90139639346105885482011-08-14T12:33:59.269-07:002011-08-14T12:33:59.269-07:00Anon 9:12 AM:
The main point of my post was to ch...Anon 9:12 AM:<br /><br />The main point of my post was to challenge our host's interpretation: Mr. Sailer thinks that the reaction was because David Starkey spoke a truth that's deemed unacceptable, and I disagree with that interpretation.<br /><br />You seem to have me pegged as some U.S. lefty; I'm neither and I don't see why I should defend affirmative action at Harvard or what Susan Sonntag said.<br /><br />You raise the point that some groups are deemed "worth protecting", while others are not. I agree that that's a problem. <br /><br />Thing is, David Starkey knows that, of course. I've watched the clip twice, and whatever one thinks of his remarks, it is obvious that the man is intelligent and eloquent. Also, he had laid out what he was going to say. He knew what he was doing.<br /><br />If you haven't actually seen a recording of the show, hats off: He did mention rap, and you described the reaction almost perfectly. It was pointed out that rap lyrics are quite diverse. That's correct, of course. If you don't want to run into that defense, simply say "gangsta rap", because if it's not misogynist and glorifies violence and crass materialism, then pretty much by definition it's not gangsta rap.<br /><br />Anon 10:05 AM: <br /><br />I don't really see how California schools fit into an argument about the proper interpretation of what Brits said about another Brit's statement. If you're saying that there are no influences on people's behaviour other than race, I would disagree with that.LemmusLemmushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00917054221547240969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61835144395438769212011-08-14T11:45:27.807-07:002011-08-14T11:45:27.807-07:00Muscular gays in leather are still pretty effemina...<i>Muscular gays in leather are still pretty effeminate</i> <br /><br />Why don't you walk up to one and tell him that, dumb-ass?<br /><br />I get the impression that the typical ISteve reader knows as much about blacks, gays, etc as he has been able to glean from watching TV.<br /><br />(in the case of Whiskey, this comment can be expanded to include women)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81561924450444535232011-08-14T11:40:35.640-07:002011-08-14T11:40:35.640-07:00I wonder to what extent this issue is a gay vs bla...<i>I wonder to what extent this issue is a gay vs black thing.</i> <br /><br />Huh?<br /><br /><br /><i>Gays are often intimidated by machismo and thuggery</i> <br /><br />As opposed to straight people who just adore thuggery and looting and vandalism? Seriously, WTF?<br /><br /><br /><i>gays are more likely to get beat up in the black community than even in a white conservative one.</i> <br /><br />Dear God, you're stupid. Just shut up already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51507811436457175952011-08-14T11:30:48.779-07:002011-08-14T11:30:48.779-07:00TGGP said...
"A large group of whites have st...<i> TGGP said...<br />"A large group of whites have started to behave like blacks. I think that is the most unracial remark anyone can make."<br />I understand the point he's making, but he's really terrible at phrasing that argument.</i><br /><br />So how do you phrase that argument, TGGP? Tell us. Post it here.<br /><br />//////////////<br /><br />To the Komment Kontrol Krybaby:<br /><br />Get your own damned blog.David Davenporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03315090179595817174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68978581720215870642011-08-14T11:12:38.514-07:002011-08-14T11:12:38.514-07:00"In a world full of bastards like Tony Blair,..."In a world full of bastards like Tony Blair, George Bush, and Rahm Emamnuel.... David Starkey is what you Brits would call a 'good chap.'"<br /><br />What? No mention of Obama? And his Cambridge cop "overreaction"?<br /><br />Meh, maybe "bastard" is too tough a word for the irrelevant Prez, come to think of it. No one's listening to him and his blather anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26791454469184585672011-08-14T10:05:25.962-07:002011-08-14T10:05:25.962-07:00"But he chose not to say that. He said that t..."But he chose not to say that. He said that the problem is that "the whites have become black", thereby equating blacks with crime and whites with law-abidingness, which is obviously false."<br /><br />Not so-visit any non-elite CA high school. Because the education establishment is going crazy trying to "close the gap" and because any serious attempt to make the schools hospitable to learning by removing kids with horrid behavior is met with howls and law suit threats from the NAACP, the establishment folds and the thuggishness of that group--yes, blacks--grows even more thuggish.<br /><br />Seriously, visit the schools. Spend some hours walking the halls, going into classes, visiting the cafeteria. It's all there on display for you unless your lying eyes refuse to see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48790878348702754972011-08-14T09:59:25.155-07:002011-08-14T09:59:25.155-07:00"Muscular gays ....More like women with impla..."Muscular gays ....More like women with implants than hip hop hoodlums or guidos."<br /><br /><br />I gotta admit--that's the best description of that subset that I've ever come across.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9515467714451895982011-08-14T09:56:37.520-07:002011-08-14T09:56:37.520-07:00"So, gay sensibility of Britain can't fin..."So, gay sensibility of Britain can't find much to love in hang-low-baggy pants thuggery of rap."<br /><br />For God sakes, what a stupid comment. "Straight sensibility" of America "can't find much to love in hang-low-baggy pants thuggery of rap."<br /><br />I've got my problems with much of the SanFran gay urban culture living as I do in the area, but to suggest that it takes "gay sensibilities" to react as Starkey does is fatuous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57637731999026685832011-08-14T09:36:21.027-07:002011-08-14T09:36:21.027-07:00LemmusLemmus: Did you have a point?
Yeah, I was ...<i>LemmusLemmus: Did you have a point?</i> <br /><br />Yeah, I was scratching my head and wondering whether maybe he was being sarcastic [or facetious?].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com