tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6694113394386630430..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Obama's Race to NowhereUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1165506990369298592010-04-04T05:13:00.510-07:002010-04-04T05:13:00.510-07:00The military has achieved a miracle in Iraq -- a r...<i> The military has achieved a miracle in Iraq -- a relatively stable, place that does not threaten the Gulf and will produce a LOT of oil as long as provide protection. That's a miracle, considering I don't want Gas at $10 a gallon. </i><br /><br />In other words, no a discernible difference between pre and post Sadaam and all that for the bargain basement price of three trillion dollars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65974374403726828322010-04-02T06:08:53.520-07:002010-04-02T06:08:53.520-07:00> You're right! Michael Jordan had a 38 inc...> You're right! Michael Jordan had a 38 inch vertical leap, and if you had trained harder you could have Exceeded him. <<br /><br />Maybe the commenter is four feet tall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16281766743877018942010-04-01T21:24:15.334-07:002010-04-01T21:24:15.334-07:00Koufax went out on top. In his last season (1966) ...Koufax went out on top. In his last season (1966) he was 27-9 with a 1.73 era. (This was the 5th successive year that he led the NL in era.)And he became dominant because he learned to through strikes, cutting his BB from 4 to 6/game to 2 or less/game.<br /><br />You can look these things up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40860048546772983982010-04-01T09:54:19.033-07:002010-04-01T09:54:19.033-07:00A dismissed student's family for a whole year ...<i>A dismissed student's family for a whole year PAY LESS TAXES.<br /><br />After all, they don't have their kid at school - and as a reward, they get a tax break.</i><br /><br />AG, how clueless are you? How much taxes do you think these people pay?rastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34050537305569941722010-03-31T19:20:41.201-07:002010-03-31T19:20:41.201-07:00ben tillman wrote:
"We don't -- and can&...ben tillman wrote:<br /><br />"We don't -- and can't -- know what he [Escalante] accomplished."<br /><br />Uh, I'm slow at the switch. Could you flesh that out for me a little?<br /><br />Escalante, according to this Wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Escalante , supposedly motivated many "barrio" high schoolers to take and succeed in advanced mathematics classes they otherwise wouldn't have considered. It seems to me that there are real numbers there: e.g. dozens of such students passing the Advanced Placement Calculus exam when heretofore none had done so at that school -- in numbers that would be the envy of most upper middle class high schools of the time.<br /><br />Yes, I know that his colleagues and administrators sought to undermine him, but that's not my point.<br /><br />Again: Can ambitious, inspired teaching raise learning levels to unexpected highs, perhaps even equalizing the performances of different races? Steve's recent VDARE essay says no, but how should he answer the apparent facts surrounding Escalante?R.P. McCoskerhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/paleolibertarians/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55431400544504782072010-03-31T17:19:09.799-07:002010-03-31T17:19:09.799-07:00March 31-- the Los Angeles Times' obituary for...March 31-- the Los Angeles Times' obituary for teacher Jaime Escalante, by staff writers Woo and Lopez, contains this short paragraph near the end:<br /><br /><i>Unpopular with fellow teachers, he won few major teaching awards in the United States. He liked to be judged by his results, a concept still resisted by the majority of his profession.</i><br /><br />I was surprised to read that; it's not politically-correct.Rashomonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6844627267027323072010-03-31T06:41:19.963-07:002010-03-31T06:41:19.963-07:00Question for Steve and others reading here: Do Esc...<i>Question for Steve and others reading here: Do Escalante's accomplishment really show that Mexican-Americans can, on average, perform just as well as whites at advanced math, so long as the teaching is top-flight?</i><br /><br />We don't -- and can't -- know what he accomplished.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76073247371735881492010-03-30T22:05:57.141-07:002010-03-30T22:05:57.141-07:00"Perhaps if I had trained harder I could have..."Perhaps if I had trained harder I could have jumped like Michael Jordan. Not!"<br /><br />You're right! Michael Jordan had a 38 inch vertical leap, and if you had trained harder you could have <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtWP_PsTnSM" rel="nofollow">Exceeded him.</a><br /><br />Whether you think you can, or you think you can't; you're right.<br /> -Henry FordTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62892075352152735832010-03-30T21:45:19.136-07:002010-03-30T21:45:19.136-07:00Did this Arne Duncan VIP list story from last week...Did this Arne Duncan VIP list story from last week come as a surprise to you? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/24/education/24chicago.html?src=meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66825521917556920402010-03-30T21:05:19.299-07:002010-03-30T21:05:19.299-07:00Well, lets try another tack.
Two assumptions, abo...Well, lets try another tack.<br /><br />Two assumptions, about blacks and whites.<br /><br /><br /><br />Lets assume that the races really are different.<br /><br />Lets not assume that blacks are NOT less intelligent than whites.<br /><br /><br />If both assumptions are true, that leads to a following conclusion:<br /><br />Perhaps the key is to teach different people DIFFERENTLY.<br /><br />I personally believe that blacks (and latinos) with a developed macho culture require much more discipline and structure in their classrooms.<br /><br />Techniques that will work on affluent suburban white students have no chance in hell in an urban, all minority school.<br /><br /><br />The first step is to give teachers more power (yes, you read that right, Steve-o's readers!) and give them more bite.<br /><br />Feel free to dismiss a student from their class with NO CONSEQUENCE to their career one way or the other, other than filling a short paperwork.<br /><br />Principals should feel free DISMISS a trouble student from a school - forever (at the least for a semester).<br /><br />And the bitch of a mother who takes no time to spend time with her child yet finds the time to come in and bad mouth the school, and sue the institution to defend her "little angel"?<br /><br />Fuck her.<br /><br />Granted, in our sue happy and victimless society that scenario is the most thorny one as the loud mouths usually get their way just by virtue of being a) idiots and b) annoying enough<br /><br /><br /><br />Here's the solution though:<br /><br />A dismissed student's family for a whole year PAY LESS TAXES.<br /><br />After all, they don't have their kid at school - and as a reward, they get a tax break.<br /><br />Steve-o, since you approve these and perhaps even read them (whoa! full time job there!), what do you think?AmericanGoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00865892490752172185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81421024782037539072010-03-30T20:48:20.716-07:002010-03-30T20:48:20.716-07:00On the heels of Steve's commentary, news has a...On the heels of Steve's commentary, news has arrived that educator Jaime Escalante has died. This AP article about his death suggests that Escalante's life demonstrates that all races can rise to the same heights, given a sufficiently inspiring teacher:<br /><br />http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBIT_JAIME_ESCALANTE?SITE=MOJOP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT<br /><br />Question for Steve and others reading here: Do Escalante's accomplishment really show that Mexican-Americans can, on average, perform just as well as whites at advanced math, so long as the teaching is top-flight?<br /><br />I'm skeptical myself but don't know how to answer this claim.R.P. McCoskerhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/paleolibertarians/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40294655594329538492010-03-30T17:17:06.078-07:002010-03-30T17:17:06.078-07:00Geez Steve- you average about a 109 every time you...<i>Geez Steve- you average about a 109 every time you play golf? How can that even be fun? I would hate to be playing behind you. Give it up ftlog!!!</i><br /><br />I always felt that the worse I played golf, the more I got to playRandyBnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45226453443933573062010-03-30T16:39:32.334-07:002010-03-30T16:39:32.334-07:00"why not conscript NAM students, too. Set up ..."why not conscript NAM students, too. Set up a 5 year pilot program with random NAMs -- go ahead and spend 50 billion dollars on it."<br /><br /><br />It has been done.<br /><br /><br />It failed.<br /><br /><br />http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html<br /><br /><br />Money And School Performance:<br />Lessons from the Kansas City Desegregation Experiment<br /><br />by Paul Ciotti<br /><br />"Executive Summary<br /><br />For decades critics of the public schools have been saying, "You can't solve educational problems by throwing money at them." The education establishment and its supporters have replied, "No one's ever tried." In Kansas City they did try. To improve the education of black students and encourage desegregation, a federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it.<br /><br />Kansas City spent as much as $11,700 per pupil--more money per pupil, on a cost of living adjusted basis, than any other of the 280 largest districts in the country. The money bought higher teachers' salaries, 15 new schools, and such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, television and animation studios, a robotics lab, a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary, a zoo, a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. The student-teacher ratio was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.<br /><br />The results were dismal. Test scores did not rise; the black-white gap did not diminish; and there was less, not greater, integration.<br /><br />The Kansas City experiment suggests that, indeed, educational problems can't be solved by throwing money at them, that the structural problems of our current educational system are far more important than a lack of material resources, and that the focus on desegregation diverted attention from the real problem, low achievement."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14991979603269618042010-03-30T16:25:58.449-07:002010-03-30T16:25:58.449-07:00'Actually, combat soldiers with IQs below the ...'Actually, combat soldiers with IQs below the low 90s are ineffective (as numerous military studies have shown). All the elites want NAMs for is their votes (paid for by expropiating the middle class). They need working and middle class white boys for their cannon fodder. And, if you read Steve regularly, he seems to have a lot of sympathy for this demographic, the "Hank Hills" of the world.'<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, one of Steve's theories is that pro-NAM policies hurt non-elite whites and therefore serve to reduce the competition facing elite whites. As a result, support for pro-NAM policies becomes a signal of elite status, a signal that is respected to some extent by various socio-economic sorting mechanisms.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12247524152647971352010-03-30T15:45:22.328-07:002010-03-30T15:45:22.328-07:00As a practical matter, taking the best teachers fr...<i>As a practical matter, taking the best teachers from White schools and putting them into NAM schools is a basic spoils fight.</i><br /><br />Arne Duncan is around my age, so he's old enough to remember busing, a social engineering disaster that even the delusional Left finally gave up. But lo and behold, the Left returns like a dog to its vomit, only this time they're going to bus the teachers.<br /><br />And, just like before, the end result will be white teachers fleeing to the most remote, lily-white districts they can find, or leaving public education.<br /><br />The Left is just completely f***ing insane.The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5913153126286892402010-03-30T14:44:00.409-07:002010-03-30T14:44:00.409-07:00The link to the url on the text "approaching ...The link to the url on the text "approaching the size of toasters" is busted.<br /><br />It should be <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_(golf)<br /><br />and not <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_(golf%2529tommynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-94344472126892622010-03-30T14:01:14.650-07:002010-03-30T14:01:14.650-07:00All ethno-lefties and their SWPL camp followers be...All ethno-lefties and their SWPL camp followers believe White Privilege is at the root of the achievement gap.<br /><br />But White Privilege is a consequence of higher intelligence. Therefore, the only way to eradicate White Privilege is to inflict brain damage on white children (or as Steve jokes, hit them on the head with a ball peen hammer). Perhaps somewhere in the 2700 pages of the new Health Care Redistribution Bill aka ObamaCare is a requirement that white children be vaccinated with lead and mercury.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9255680669154842152010-03-30T13:30:12.139-07:002010-03-30T13:30:12.139-07:00"I don't know why you worry about this st..."I don't know why you worry about this stuff Steve. If, as you assume, nothing is going to bring these kids up to HBD par, what's the loss? We spend more on the Iraq war and servicing the deficit thereof, with less effect."<br /><br />Let me get this straight, instead of wasting our blood and treasure on one hopeless cause (which Steve has also written numerous articles criticizing - his schtick is, after all, that our mistake is to invade the world, invite the world, and be in hock to the world), we should instead waste it on another hopeless cause? Why not just not waste it on either?<br /><br />"The dumber the better anyway. The elites want more cannon fodder. You dont' seem to offer any better suggestions. I certainly dont get the impression you care about what happens to the unwashed masses."<br /><br />Actually, combat soldiers with IQs below the low 90s are ineffective (as numerous military studies have shown). All the elites want NAMs for is their votes (paid for by expropiating the middle class). They need working and middle class white boys for their cannon fodder. And, if you read Steve regularly, he seems to have a lot of sympathy for this demographic, the "Hank Hills" of the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66511254388792418782010-03-30T13:00:09.374-07:002010-03-30T13:00:09.374-07:0090 years of IQ testing shows a consistant 15 point...90 years of IQ testing shows a consistant 15 point gap between blacks and whites. This gap resists all efforts by liberals to close or narrow. It's obvious that is's caused by genetic differences that liberals can't wish away. Therefore what's the point of throwing more money at the quixotic goal to turning sows ears into silk?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18592401863696934702010-03-30T10:31:51.185-07:002010-03-30T10:31:51.185-07:00Perhaps it is time to get the Federal Govt to put ...Perhaps it is time to get the Federal Govt to put up or shut up. If now there is talk of conscripting the best white teachers to teach NAM classes, why not conscript NAM students, too. Set up a 5 year pilot program with random NAMs -- go ahead and spend 50 billion dollars on it. It would be worth it if we could settle the question once and for all: can the gap be closed? If it doesn't close even though there is $500K per student being spent, then it proves practically speaking that it never will since it would require all the money in the economy. (Remember the California State Board of education estimating that it might cost a trillion dollars to close the education gap between whites and Latino's?).<br /><br />The results of the study could then be used as evidence in court to fight back any new ethnocentric push to make states go bankrupt spending more money on students of color. At last, we would come to the realization that we need factories in the US to keep these people employed. Seems to me life for those on the left hand of the bell curve was pretty good back in the days of the Detroit assembly lines and the Kaiser ship yards. In fact, the whole underclass black population living in the Oakland and Richmond flatlands are the descendants of Kaiser workers who once upon a time made a decent wage and had some self respect. Forcing their grand children and great grand children into AP courses and advanced algebra just stamps failure on their heads at an early age.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82618674745572040812010-03-30T09:36:41.861-07:002010-03-30T09:36:41.861-07:00BTW I for one think that they do not believe what ...BTW I for one think that they do not believe what they say and that goes all the way up to Obama.JWOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00004178958481335795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75366558345862714152010-03-30T09:34:47.648-07:002010-03-30T09:34:47.648-07:00Do these people (Arny Duncan) really believe what ...Do these people (Arny Duncan) really believe what they say or do they just know that they must say it? <br /><br />Perhaps if I had trained harder I could have jumped like Michael Jordan. Not!JWOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00004178958481335795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50602071347914942352010-03-30T09:31:04.340-07:002010-03-30T09:31:04.340-07:00...to find the best teachers...
Unfortunately, bu...<i>...to find the best teachers...</i><br /><br />Unfortunately, but not surprisingly, the differences between the "best" teachers and other teachers, in measurable results, are miniscule:<br /><br />http://www.halfsigma.com/2010/01/what-makes-a-great-teacher.html<br /><br />--> http://www.mathematica-mpr.com/publications/pdfs/teach.pdfLe Murnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7303040019877235042010-03-30T08:35:46.949-07:002010-03-30T08:35:46.949-07:00"As a practical matter, taking the best teach..."As a practical matter, taking the best teachers from White schools and putting them into NAM schools is a basic spoils fight. Sure to create a massive political battle."<br /><br /><br />Good teachers will not go teach NAMs even if there is significant remuneration. Most teachers are women and working conditions are more important to them than $$$. This is why private schools get good teachers. Thirteen bright, polite kids in a class instead of 30 idiots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13185822773260181502010-03-30T08:12:22.716-07:002010-03-30T08:12:22.716-07:00"6)is consistent with, indeed is an almost in..."6)is consistent with, indeed is an almost inevitable implication of, the most basic version of evolutionary theory, which theory all educated people are supposed to accept."<br /><br /><br />Most educated folks accept evolution.<br /><br />They do not understand evolution.<br /><br />Most creationists accept recent evolution and natural selection because those can be demonstrated. So, they can understand how it works.<br /><br />Creationists fall away at the notion of spontaneous generation of DNA by just random happenstance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com