tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post6947537297904809779..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Glenn Burke: tragic victim of homophobia or his own all-around suckiness?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30237434798137010752011-09-07T14:50:40.148-07:002011-09-07T14:50:40.148-07:00"So of the four categories you list, gays are..."So of the four categories you list, gays are seen as the ones who have to compromise least in their pursuit of pleasure in order to safeguard their health."<br /><br />Good point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27773655962618046042011-09-07T10:56:57.825-07:002011-09-07T10:56:57.825-07:00"To the people who are complaining about havi...<i>"To the people who are complaining about having to fund AIDS research: I sympathize to a point (and I'm gay, and have people who are HIV+ whom I care about deeply!), but does this resentment attach to funding research on other self-inflicted, lifestyle-related illnesses, e.g. those caused by obesity, alcoholism, smoking, etc...?"</i><br /><br />Among those I've talked to, yes, it's a blanket resentment, not one specific to gays. <br /><br /><i>"If not, why single out gays?"</i> <br /><br />Smokers and alcoholics have to give up their unhealthy habits completely. Obese people have to cut back on or give up completely all sorts of tasty food forever to reach and maintain a healthy weight. With gays, though, I think there's a perception that nobody is suggesting they should be celibate, just take reasonable precautions in choosing their partners and practice safe sex.<br /><br />So of the four categories you list, gays are seen as the ones who have to compromise least in their pursuit of pleasure in order to safeguard their health. Not do to so--especially when the risk is so great for themselves and for others--seems pretty selfish. Which is okay--unless and until you expect others to pay for treating the conditions resulting from your selfishness.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85945445700754641442011-09-07T09:48:30.626-07:002011-09-07T09:48:30.626-07:00"All people who get AIDS are not sexually pro..."All people who get AIDS are not sexually promiscuous adults. I have a friend whose aunt was diagnosed with HIV. Her husband was on the "down low." It's difficult to see her as anything other than a victim. About 10,800 out of the 40,000 new HIV diagnoses each year affect women. About 14,000 people each year are killed by drunk drivers. Those numbers aren't too dissimilar."<br /><br />And I return your "fair enough" to some degree. I do think, for all kinds of reasons, lung cancer would be the recipient of dollars even if it had not been linked to smokers.<br /><br />Also, I've a feeling that the sympathy for the 40,000 new diagnoses of HIV infection of women is no greater than for the man/men who passed it to her. Most of those women, let's face it, are drug users and/or promiscuous themselves, and part of a subculture most of us in productive society hold in contempt. <br /><br />Basically, I think the "it's the culture, and not their fault" meme that has plagued this nation since the 1960s has given way to "Dammit, the individual has to take responsibility for his or her actions."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32746997626679457822011-09-07T08:33:34.202-07:002011-09-07T08:33:34.202-07:00I just had dinner with a gay friend of five years....I just had dinner with a gay friend of five years. He's only had sex with one guy for the past seventeen.<br /><br />Jes' sayin'. Also, he's a die-hard Republican, and hates multiculturalismAshernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26088279139129917952011-09-07T08:06:58.173-07:002011-09-07T08:06:58.173-07:00"About 14,000 people each year are killed by ..."About 14,000 people each year are killed by drunk drivers. "<br /><br />how many by sober?<br /><br />http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/dui.htm<br /><br />http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/womendrivers.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39344079582721098512011-09-07T06:29:16.573-07:002011-09-07T06:29:16.573-07:00"Yes, Mark, I think it does. I believe there ..."Yes, Mark, I think it does. I believe there is great resentment that our entire medical system is burdened by those who are self-indulgent to the point of costing the rest of us a lot of money."<br /><br />Fair enough.<br /><br />"As for research dollars--surely you know people who've never smoked who have suffered with lung cancer, cancer of the tongue or esophagus; surely you know people with type 2 diabetes who aren't heavy (I've two friends with it who are very thin and always have been)."<br /><br />85% of lung cancer patients are smokers. That number is higher than the percentage of new AIDS patients who are gay men. Twenty-seven percent of new AIDS patients are women, for one. <br /><br />"Research into curbing the alcoholic's cravings may not just save the alcoholic but the innocents he savages, those family members at home and strangers on the highways.<br /><br />It's hard to see the sexually promiscuous adult as a victim." <br /><br />All people who get AIDS are not sexually promiscuous adults. I have a friend whose aunt was diagnosed with HIV. Her husband was on the "down low." It's difficult to see her as anything other than a victim. About 10,800 out of the 40,000 new HIV diagnoses each year affect women. About 14,000 people each year are killed by drunk drivers. Those numbers aren't too dissimilar.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327785256936928799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84031876245901295982011-09-07T06:19:34.471-07:002011-09-07T06:19:34.471-07:00Far from being a victim of homophobia, it seems he...Far from being a victim of homophobia, it seems he was kept around longer than he should have been because they particularly liked, enjoyed, and appreciated his personality. That grown men would get teary because a mediocre teammate leaves their team indicates Glennie was accepted and much loved. But never expect gratitude from professional fags. Everyone not playing on their team is The Source of All Evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57811334958749549292011-09-07T05:10:18.051-07:002011-09-07T05:10:18.051-07:00Truth,
His stats in the majors were terrible and...Truth,<br /> His stats in the majors were terrible and he was around for years. He was definitely given a chance.<br /><br />However, he probably was traded for racist or homophobic (or some other other evil) reasons.DougRisknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-341890182405935872011-09-06T23:09:28.932-07:002011-09-06T23:09:28.932-07:00DougRisk:
Burke was a minor league draftee, who s...DougRisk:<br /><br />Burke was a minor league draftee, who spent 6 years in the minors and came up at 24. This is about right for a High school draftee, as there are 5 levels of minor league baseball. (Short-season rookie A, Mid-A, High-A, Double-A and Triple-A.) H.S. guys who are not phenoms generally make a stop at each one. He was also a lifetime .293 hitter who hit better than .300 at five levels of baseball. He stole bases, but did not hit homeruns (fewer did in the 70's) and his stats are on par with major league rookies. <br /><br /> Is it possible that he was cut for being lousy? of course, but there were worse guys in the 70's who hung around longer.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32147126160859332132011-09-06T23:00:46.613-07:002011-09-06T23:00:46.613-07:00"I could never understand why someone would w..."I could never understand why someone would want to envelope themselves in football, baseball, or, god forbid, basketball, when they could train in powerlifting, boxing, or running."<br /><br />It's pretty simple actually, some people prefer individual pursuits, some prefer group hobbies.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85279703719746713942011-09-06T22:26:02.318-07:002011-09-06T22:26:02.318-07:00"but does this resentment attach to funding r..."but does this resentment attach to funding research on other self-inflicted, lifestyle-related illnesses, e.g. those caused by obesity, alcoholism, smoking, etc...?"<br /><br />Yes, Mark, I think it does. I believe there is great resentment that our entire medical system is burdened by those who are self-indulgent to the point of costing the rest of us a lot of money.<br /><br />As for research dollars--surely you know people who've never smoked who have suffered with lung cancer, cancer of the tongue or esophagus; surely you know people with type 2 diabetes who aren't heavy (I've two friends with it who are very thin and always have been). Research into curbing the alcoholic's cravings may not just save the alcoholic but the innocents he savages, those family members at home and strangers on the highways.<br /><br />It's hard to see the sexually promiscuous adult as a victim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86883364986235761812011-09-06T21:07:12.507-07:002011-09-06T21:07:12.507-07:00Simple question: If Glenn Burke or Dave Kopay had ...Simple question: If Glenn Burke or Dave Kopay had been straight, would ANYBODY remember their names?Homer Fobicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63562988251742014382011-09-06T15:12:41.234-07:002011-09-06T15:12:41.234-07:00"Burke's creation of the high five was pa...<i>"Burke's creation of the high five was part of his Herculean mystique. He would flash his magnetic smile and high-five everyone who walked by... a gay activist named Michael J. Smith, appropriated the high five as a defiant symbol of gay pride."</i><br /><br />I knew it! Professional team sports are riddled with such homoeroticism. I could never understand why someone would want to envelope themselves in football, baseball, or, god forbid, basketball, when they could train in powerlifting, boxing, or running.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09148369137917100380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3984277912619280522011-09-06T14:58:18.705-07:002011-09-06T14:58:18.705-07:00Everyone knows that gay men are way over-represent...Everyone knows that gay men are way over-represented among AIDS patients. And that the whole 10% of the population figure is a myth. I haven't heard it thrown about since the 1990s.<br /><br />To the people who are complaining about having to fund AIDS research: I sympathize to a point (and I'm gay, and have people who are HIV+ whom I care about deeply!), but does this resentment attach to funding research on other self-inflicted, lifestyle-related illnesses, e.g. those caused by obesity, alcoholism, smoking, etc...? If not, why single out gays? <br /><br />I do find it annoying that you can call out smokers, alcoholics, fat people, etc... for their self-destructive behavior, but no "right thinking person" ever takes gay men to task for their/our sexual promiscuity.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327785256936928799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23340320900129835562011-09-06T14:17:16.839-07:002011-09-06T14:17:16.839-07:00Truth,
By the time he made it to AAA (and it too...Truth,<br /> By the time he made it to AAA (and it took him long enough) he had a bad OBP and a terrible SO to BB ratio. Also, it wasn't like he was not given a chance in the Majors. He got plenty of ABs and simply had terrible stats.<br /><br />Still, he was great at Gay Softball.<br /><br />And, he invented the high five.DougRisknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55820077774829834892011-09-06T13:10:59.536-07:002011-09-06T13:10:59.536-07:00He was actually a very good player in the minors, ...<i> He was actually a very good player in the minors, Steve-O, so who knows? </i><br /><br />His minor league record is pretty mediocre if you consider the offensive-heavy leagues he played in and his age relative to the other players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43544196868801307562011-09-06T12:39:21.702-07:002011-09-06T12:39:21.702-07:00You rarely see white working class men smoking any...<i>You rarely see white working class men smoking anymore, at least in the Northeast. Smoking seems to be seen more and more as effeminate.</i><br /><br />That may be an unintended consequence of AIDS. Smoking helps with weight loss. Macho working-class men don't want to look like "skinny aidsy faggots", so they don't smoke, and stay healthy that way. Of course, it means that macho men eat more fatty food instead, and become unhealthy in another way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60249882614693646822011-09-06T10:59:43.214-07:002011-09-06T10:59:43.214-07:00CHICAGO (AP)— One in five sexually active gay and ...CHICAGO (AP)— One in five sexually active gay and bisexual men has the AIDS virus, and nearly half of those don't know they are infected, a federal study of 21 U.S. cities shows.<br /><br />Experts said the findings are similar to earlier research, but the study released Thursday is the largest to look at gay and bisexual U.S. men at high risk for HIV. More than 8,000 men were tested and interviewed, and 44 percent of those who had the virus didn't know they had it.<br /><br />Overall, less than half of 1 percent of Americans have the AIDS virus, according to a calculation by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a research and policy organization in Washington, D.C.<br /><br />But gay and bisexual men continue to be infected at much higher rates, said Jennifer Kates, Kaiser's director of global health and HIV policy.<br /><br />"We don't have a generalized epidemic in the United States. We have a concentrated epidemic among certain populations," she said..."<br /><br />Those "certain populations" will certainly spread AIDS amongst the troops. The blood supply for combat soldiers will be contaminated with HIV and AIDS. <br /><br />Is the goal of Obama and the Democrats to create a new AIDS crisis? An AIDS crisis that will devastate soldiers,sailors and marines?<br /><br />This is where Obamacare tax money will go- to his constituency<br /><br /><br />(For those who doubt the horrific 1 in 5 with HIV/Statistic here is the link)<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/3bamee9ELVISNIXON.comhttp://www.elvisnixon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2732971232474175482011-09-06T10:56:10.503-07:002011-09-06T10:56:10.503-07:00The AP reports that fully 1 in every 5 homosexual ...The AP reports that fully 1 in every 5 homosexual men has HIV/AIDS <br /><br />This puts the lie to the oft repeated statement on the left that 10% of Americans are "gay."<br /><br />If only one half of one percent of the country is HIV infected, which represents supposedly 1 in 5 "gay" or bisexual men, that puts the gay/bisexual percentage of the population at 2.5%.<br /><br />Now, are you going to try and convince me that to get to the other 7.5% REQUIRED to get to that 10% figure breaks down as the following?<br /><br />50% of the population being female would require fully 15% of them to be lesbian to get 10% of the total population to be gay/bisexual that we’re told it is.<br /><br />I’m sorry, there’s just no way that these numbers work.<br /><br />So once again the media is caught in a blatant lie- all it takes is some basic math to expose their agenda.<br /><br />Obama lifted the travel quarantine against those with AIDS entering the USA this year.<br /><br />American citizens will now be exposed to HIV and AIDS unnecessarily. <br /><br />They will also be compelled to pay for the healthcare of the AIDS victims once they enter our borders. <br /><br />Money that could go to treat cancer and heart disease will go to treat HIV.<br /><br />Meanwhile our military is put at risk of being compromised with AIDS blood so that Obama and the leftists can appear to be "courageous" as they collect millions from Soros and the "gay" lobby.ELVISNIXON.comhttp://www.elvisnixon.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21799950450211405202011-09-06T10:34:48.741-07:002011-09-06T10:34:48.741-07:00Matt said: "It isn't "homophobia&quo...Matt said: "It isn't "homophobia" that keeps gay lifespans under 65 on average, "<br /><br />Do you have a source for that? I've wondered about homosexual death rates and don't know of a place to look.Eric Rasmusenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01609599580545475695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18837774940166241572011-09-06T10:15:46.956-07:002011-09-06T10:15:46.956-07:00True, given Burke's lack of production, his tr...True, given Burke's lack of production, his trading shouldn't have caused much grief in the Dodger dugout. However, Steve's last sentence is actually wrong: <i>they let him stay in the big leagues ... when there were better players in Triple A.</i> Actually, what the Dodgers had at AAA in the '70's and early '80's was a steady stream of fast outfielders who showed no power. Just before Burke was Von Joshua. Then came Rudy Law (identical stats to Burke), Jeffrey Leonard (traded to Houston where he had zero hrs. in 484 plate appearances), Ron Roenicke, Bobby Mitchell (who I once induced into a double play), Lemmie Miller. For the Dodgers, the decade was a wholesale washout for outfielders.not a hackernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69935603166627680502011-09-06T09:36:55.394-07:002011-09-06T09:36:55.394-07:00Hmm, I've read Steve for quite some time and h...<i>Hmm, I've read Steve for quite some time and have never detected anything but straight-up equanimity in his treatment of topics regarding homosexuality. <br /><br />You're the one who sounds hysterical. You seem to be re-inforcing stereotypes...but then, as we know, stereotypes exist because there is truth to them.</i><br /><br />Agreed. Anonymous 9/5/11 4:51 AM seems to be a pot calling the kettle black. He's projecting his hysterics, his insecurities, his depravity and his disdain towards Sailer.Janicenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31764401816482710682011-09-06T08:44:37.715-07:002011-09-06T08:44:37.715-07:00He was actually a very good player in the minors, ...He was actually a very good player in the minors, Steve-O, so who knows?<br /><br />Minors Batting Glossary · Hide Partial · SHARESHARE [X] · CSV · PRE · LINK · More Tools<br />Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB <br />1972 19 2 Teams 2 Lgs A--Rk LAD 55 186 57 10 1 2 .306 .403 75 <br />1972 19 Ogden PION Rk LAD 14 45 9 1 0 0 .200 .222 10 <br />1972 19 Spokane NORW A- LAD 41 141 48 9 1 2 .340 .461 65 <br />1973 20 2 Teams 2 Lgs A LAD 121 406 121 18 3 11 .298 .438 178 <br />1973 20 Daytona Beach FLOR A LAD 110 372 115 17 2 10 .309 .446 166 <br />1973 20 Bakersfield CALL A LAD 11 34 6 1 1 1 .176 .353 12 <br />1974 21 2 Teams 2 Lgs A-AA LAD 117 457 416 65 127 22 2 8 60 29 7 31 76 .305 .356 .425 .782 177 6 4 2 4 2 <br />1974 21 Bakersfield CALL A LAD 66 288 263 46 89 17 0 7 46 20 2 19 45 .338 .385 .483 .868 127 6 3 0 3 2 <br />1974 21 Waterbury EL AA LAD 51 169 153 19 38 5 2 1 14 9 5 12 31 .248 .305 .327 .632 50 1 2 1 <br />1975 22 Waterbury EL AA LAD 119 478 129 14 2 12 .270 .383 183 <br />1976 23 Albuquerque PCL AAA LAD 116 492 467 72 140 17 10 7 53 63 13 18 71 .300 .321 .424 .745 198 0 0 7 <br />1977 24 Albuquerque PCL AAA LAD 47 215 188 42 58 9 5 6 47 20 5 20 42 .309 .372 .505 .877 95 2 0 5 <br /> <br />1980 27 Ogden PCL AAA OAK 25 94 84 7 19 3 1 2 12 2 3 7 15 .226 .283 .357 .640 30 0 2 1 <br />7 Seasons 600 2328 2225 186 651 93 24 48 172 114 28 76 204 .293 .315 .421 .736 936 6 6 4 17 2 <br />A (2 seasons) A 187 694 669 46 210 35 3 18 46 20 2 19 45 .314 .334 .456 .790 305 6 3 0 3 2 <br />AAA (3 seasons) AAA 188 801 739 121 217 29 16 15 112 85 21 45 128 .294 .330 .437 .767 323 2 2 13 <br />AA (2 seasons) AA 170 647 631 19 167 19 4 13 14 9 5 12 31 .265 .279 .369 .648 233 1 2 1 <br />Rk (1 season) Rk 14 45 45 9 1 0 0 .200 .200 .222 .422 10 <br />A- (1 season) A- 41 141 141 48 9 1 2 .340 .340 .461 .801 65Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8194023485576436832011-09-06T06:15:46.992-07:002011-09-06T06:15:46.992-07:00"- Like those laws that prevent me from light..."- Like those laws that prevent me from lighting up a cig at a bar, outside cafe, playground.<br /><br />- Like those laws that can seize my private property and turn it into a park or shopping center or anything else the government wants to build."<br /><br />Actually these two laws typically are supported by "effin conservatives" at the local level.<br /><br />Oddly, everyone I know who smokes is a liberal (either a woman, black or a hipster, or some combination of the 3). You rarely see white working class men smoking anymore, at least in the Northeast. Smoking seems to be seen more and more as effeminate.Peter Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72097686812154158942011-09-06T02:52:20.391-07:002011-09-06T02:52:20.391-07:00Ditto what Laban said.Ditto what Laban said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com