tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7050453834194120615..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Higher IQ people "just better" at getting away with being prejudicedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28545299448292730652013-08-16T04:25:45.010-07:002013-08-16T04:25:45.010-07:00The British left-wing broadsheet The Guardian has ...The British left-wing broadsheet The Guardian has just covered this study and others:<br /><br />http://www.theguardian.com/news/oliver-burkeman-s-blog/2013/aug/15/racist-sexist-you-are-moreDykewardhttp://twitter.com/dykewardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28726818754170013422013-08-15T04:41:59.474-07:002013-08-15T04:41:59.474-07:00For c. 50 years the war against white people has b...For c. 50 years the war against white people has been mainly waged against the bluecollar white population. During this time the media propaganda line on racism was that it was related to class, intelligence and education - so divide and rule basically.<br /><br />Now the war against the bluecollar part of the white population is mostly complete - at least in the big cities - it's time to switch to the whitecollar part of the white population hence HUD and section 8.<br /><br />That's in the States - most other places are still only halfway through getting rid of the bluecollar population.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39069862136934801042013-08-14T19:09:33.305-07:002013-08-14T19:09:33.305-07:00" yet at the same time will strongly assert p..." yet at the same time will strongly assert pro-integration beliefs and not necessarily consciously see the disconnect"<br /><br />I would just point out that you can't assume that they do not see the "disconnect." Many, I'm certain, can see it all too clearly. They just don't care. To them lying through their teeth is a price worth paying for individual advancement. They may even harbor beliefs that they're "getting away with murder." That their behavior, successful as it is on a personal, short-term level, in the long-run dooms their kind is a distant consideration. Humans are complex creatures so I bet there are times where some hate themselves for their lies, but ah, how sweet it is to cement another white's status beneath you by slamming him with "racist!" Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67312961235430771232013-08-14T18:06:44.094-07:002013-08-14T18:06:44.094-07:00"Another one of the black guys was murdered i..."Another one of the black guys was murdered in a drug deal. Quite sad actually as, although not very bright, he was nice to everybody and didn't cause any trouble at school."<br /><br />-One thing that's been more and more on my mind recently is how the payoffs are different for so many of these things for poor vs rich, low IQ vs high IQ, etc.<br /><br />A guy who makes a 20K salary and has little chance for improvement is going to feel very different about the lottery, crime, etc than would a guy making 100k a year on the fast track to the big desk. The payoff and cost ratios are completely different. <br /><br />I think these things are underappreciated in discussions about the stupidity of the poor to buy lottery tickets, etc. <br /><br />Chancellor Bingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10047306963166275902013-08-14T09:20:25.368-07:002013-08-14T09:20:25.368-07:00Matthew said... "At the end of four years ...Matthew said... "At the end of four years they’d hand them a diploma and send them on their way."<br /><br />This is why we need honors diplomas. Do any states do this now? At least give the kids who make an honest effort a chance to differentiate themselves from the kids like the ones you describe."<br /><br />I think the people that cared whether the diplomas were real or not (i.e. colleges) could tell the difference just by looking at the transcripts - did you take Algebra in 8th and 9th grade or did you take "Intro to Math" in 12th grade?<br /><br />Not that even that would matter, none of the kids in The Zoo were applying to college. Over the years I've run into a few Zoo inhabitants. One of the white guys was driving a tow truck. One of the black guys worked for the county doing road work, mowing median strips, etc. Another one of the black guys was murdered in a drug deal. Quite sad actually as, although not very bright, he was nice to everybody and didn't cause any trouble at school. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66952653237001804142013-08-14T01:07:15.914-07:002013-08-14T01:07:15.914-07:00It may be a sensitive name to drop around here but...It may be a sensitive name to drop around here but is this not a clear outline of the mechanisms discussed in the classic essay "Psychology & White Ethnocentrism" by Kevin MacDonald?<br /><br />It discusses the psychological gap between explicit and implicit processing. How white (and we must presume many others) show ethnocentric tendencies on tests, through personal networks, in living arrangements and many other examples, yet at the same time will strongly assert pro-integration beliefs and not necessarily consciously see the disconnect. Conscientiousness is the key and cultural signals inhibit the expression of socially frowned upon attitudes. Those who have been more highly educated obviously have to some degree experienced higher levels of social conditioning. I won't link the essay under the assumption the comment may not see the light of day, but it is very interesting nonetheless, Google it. Dykewardhttp://twitter.com/dykewardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8797285497271646092013-08-13T23:10:00.646-07:002013-08-13T23:10:00.646-07:00Yeah, just take a look at this liberal who "b...Yeah, just take a look at this liberal who "believes in public education" but sends his son to a private school. And then writes an article because she feels "guilty". <br /><br />http://www.salon.com/2012/10/09/my_private_school_guilt/<br /><br />Screw them all.Dumbohttp://tomwaiting.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49024406170735846662013-08-13T21:11:02.853-07:002013-08-13T21:11:02.853-07:00Personally, I support both voluntary and involunta...Personally, I support both voluntary and involuntary segregation. "Involuntary" segregation gives most people what they want anyway, dwarfing the number of people who'd be inconvenienced by it.<br /><br />For non-blacks, keeping blacks out of one's society is essentially all upside and no downside. I think virtually everyone grasps the fundamental truth of this - except white leftists. <br /><br />White leftists are the only people to associate extreme pain - mental anguish - with thinking uncomplimentary thoughts about blacks. (Even as they themselves do all they can to put distance between themselves and blacks - that distance itself being an essential component of the ability to manifest white leftist thought patterns at all.)<br /><br />For everyone else, mental anguish has little to do with avoiding uncomplimentary thoughts about blacks; for everyone else, it's just a matter of not rocking the boat. <br /><br />White leftists are culturally and politically influential, so what they think matters. But should there come a day when white leftists lose their cultural and political influence, I will no longer even pretend to care about what white leftists think. With white leftists out of the way America is openly up for grabs. And there I can see a mutual understanding among disparate and even hostile groups rapidly coalescing that we're all better off by keeping blacks out. White leftists won't like it, but it will no longer matter.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77216916130223977672013-08-13T17:35:17.263-07:002013-08-13T17:35:17.263-07:00"I'm quite sure when the new HUD diversit..."I'm quite sure when the new HUD diversity ball comes rolling down the road, this will be the ploy that liberal whitopias use to maintain their whiteness while the Red State whitopias catch hell."<br /><br />This HUD decree (really, part of the larger Agenda 21 from the UN) is just another way to break up conservative whites. According to what it claims, communities cannot receive gov't funds unless they comply with a certain level of diversity. Of course, no one is suggesting breaking up minority communitites. Quite the opposite- the Feds are complicit in helping create and maintain unnatural minority communities for the benefits of minorities and the left with nonsense such as gerrymandering (and who gives a damn about the poor loser whiteys who lose the impact of THEIR votes when gerrymandering places them in a minority-majority district).<br /><br />White communities should stay as they are and protest in large numbers that if they are not eligible to receive federal funds, then they should stop contributing funds to the federal government. <br /><br />And liberal whites who want to stay in white areas should voice their concern that the new racist HUD laws will disperse vibrant black communities into small pockets within greater communities of evil racist whites, keep them in small groups where they can't achieve community power, etc. Ranse T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72194515504722443092013-08-13T16:53:01.559-07:002013-08-13T16:53:01.559-07:00"He claims to have no problem with the NAM co..."He claims to have no problem with the NAM component, just that the schools aren't "good". As if the problem is something in the plumbing or the masonry."<br /><br />This was public policy in the 1970s, tear down the segregated black school and bus the kids to some targeted white school, as though the educational objective could be achieved for blacks with white physical plant. BTW they also moved the black teachers and the white kids they taught grew up to be doctors and lawyers just like they would have under white teachers. At the time they truly thought the problem was with the physical plant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57463087572792048062013-08-13T16:38:03.944-07:002013-08-13T16:38:03.944-07:00Steve,
Most "New York City liberals" di...Steve,<br /><br />Most "New York City liberals" did not "demand" revoking the 2-term limit for Bloomberg - Bloomberg demanded it, and was able to buy off enough of the city council ("legally," of course, thru private charitable contributions and the usual legislative log-rolling) to prevail. There was considerable opposition to lifting the 2-term limit from the leftwing activist community (which was then already conducting the vendetta against stop-and-frisk), and Bloomberg, after spending massively on the campaign, won his third term with just over 50% of the vote. He won with the support of apolitical and politically moderate and conservative (by NYC standards) voters, not the activist left, which opposed him then and has been pushing the anti-stop-&-frisk jihad for years.<br /><br />If you're going to make broad statements about NYC politics, you ought to read more about it from reliable sources. You're really off base in thinking that the leftist establishment here has been ignoring stop-and-frisk. Who do you think is behind the expensive, long-running lawsuit that just bore fruit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58975076662406843862013-08-13T16:32:39.717-07:002013-08-13T16:32:39.717-07:00A less useless article
"High-ability whites ...A less useless article<br /><br />"High-ability whites are less likely to report prejudiced attitudes and more likely to say they support racial integration in principle," said Geoffrey Wodtke, a doctoral candidate in sociology. "But they are no more likely than lower-ability whites to support open housing laws and are less likely to support school busing and affirmative action programs."<br /><br />He also mentions "open housing laws."<br /><br />So, it's just another example of defining racism down. <br /><br />http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130811005342.htmkeypusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07176947522040838625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23509126955586383942013-08-13T16:15:30.228-07:002013-08-13T16:15:30.228-07:00>I hate the way leftists misuse the word "...>I hate the way leftists misuse the word "segregated," giving it two different meanings at the same time. They wish their audiences to hear "intentionally, malevolently 'segregated' by government action using injunctions, arrests, and beatings to drive away non-whites." But when you ask for evidence more recent than 1964-- six decades ago and nearly passed from living memory-- then the leftists weasel that "segregated" merely means "racially imbalanced for whatever, likely benign, reason."<<br /><br />Super observation.<br /><br />This equivocal definition of "segregation" is what flipped me out of neocon-ism and into HBD. The libertarians - such as Virginia Postrel and the Reason boys - hit the ceiling over the Trent Lott/Strom Thurmond "controversy" in 2002...and used the occasion to blather on about how Thurmond supported "segregation" all his life. "Segregation" meant BOTH<br /><br />a. Laws against racial integration.<br /><br />and<br /><br />b. People voluntarily choosing to be around people like them.<br /><br />In the libertoons' rhetoric, b. was consistently held to be the same as a. It was "a violation of the non-initiation of force principle" and worse, just plain "backward" and "racist."<br /><br />It got so bad that ltoons were dogmatically asserting the preposterous falsehood that the Civil Rights Act consisted of the repeal of forced-segregation laws, and nothing else. (!)<br /><br />Their lil hissy fit opened my eyes to many things....<br /><br />My first interpretation was that these people had no principles, that they were dumping on Lott only because Lott wouldn't roll over for W, and W had to be supported by libertarians because...well, just because. Because he was Israel's best friend and Norman Rockwell's only bulwark in a world of terrorists or whatever. (Not that Lott wasn't pro-Israel; just "obstructionist.")<br /><br />Then I realized that these people were behaving like classic KMac caricatures (before I found KMac). Always on the side of the government's pushing blacks anywhere; always holding negrophilia as their highest pride and a top moral imperative.<br /><br />I wrote them all, reminding them that even Alissa Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand) wrote that the Civil Rights Bill - which they were grossly misrepresenting and championing - is "the worst violation of property rights in America's history" (from The Virtue of Selfishness). Surprisingly enough, they didn't listen to me. It was "dump on Lott" and "smear as a white racist lyncher ANYONE questioning the Civil Rights Act."<br /><br />So much for their understanding of American history, "freedom" "liberty" "individual rights" "property rights" and the rest of the buzzwords.<br /><br />Libertoonism, as another commenter opined, is just a more deceitful form of communism, specifically adapted to an American audience. (Anarcho-totalitarianism is a very similar form of it.)<br /><br />^ Apologies for long rantDavidhttp://david-passingparade2.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48080484591031112112013-08-13T16:09:22.144-07:002013-08-13T16:09:22.144-07:00"But a more consistent and realistic interpre..."But a more consistent and realistic interpretation is that the impeccably liberal half of smart respondents comprises people who are even better liars and hypocrites than the unenlightened half of smart respondents.<br /><br />Surely if these people actually supported the "laws" they claim to support, upscale liberal communities would be full of Sun People. But they're not."<br /><br />- That's why gays fit so well into the new liberal victim handbook. They can let a few 'butt cowboys' in their community, and other than the extra shiny doorknobs, and a few other oddities on display, they are completely safe and can at the same time claim they have 'diverse' communitities. I'm quite sure when the new HUD diversity ball comes rolling down the road, this will be the ploy that liberal whitopias use to maintain their whiteness while the Red State whitopias catch hell. And best of all, the NE Scots-Irish communitities are diverse enough as it is because the Scots-Irish are minorities when they want to be, so a community of 100% of them is being diverse. Devindra H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31115702628296080132013-08-13T15:48:59.428-07:002013-08-13T15:48:59.428-07:00They're really pushing it with whitey by hamme...They're really pushing it with whitey by hammering away at this.<br /><br />You've already got whitey pretending they're getting privileges while letting minorities be the ones getting them. All that whitey asks for in return is to publicly pretend that they agree with it. And they want to take that away?<br /><br />I say, swing away Mr. Wodtke!District 14noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53210272339649976292013-08-13T15:34:45.772-07:002013-08-13T15:34:45.772-07:00"At the end of four years they’d hand them a ...<b>"At the end of four years they’d hand them a diploma and send them on their way."</b><br /><br />This is why we need honors diplomas. Do any states do this now?<br /><br />We're never going to be allowed to increase graduation requirements to a point where dropout rates increase, especially among blacks. At least give the kids who make an honest effort a chance to differentiate themselves from the kids like the ones you describe.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-254362463630990032013-08-13T15:19:00.621-07:002013-08-13T15:19:00.621-07:00"I have a friend that claims to be not "..."I have a friend that claims to be not "racist". He sends his daughter to Sidwell Friends. When pressed on why he sends her there rather than to the local public schools (about 40% NAM, more mestizo than black but still with a critical mass of blacks) he said because the local public schools aren't "good schools". He claims to have no problem with the NAM component, just that the schools aren't "good"."<br /><br />Technically speaking, your Liberal friend is not a 'racist'. In other words, IF there were a perfectly good school with lots of blacks, he wouldn't mind sending his kids to that school. He probably wouldn't mind his kids marrying good blacks. <br />So, he doesn't care about racial differences in looks; he doesn't care about race mixing. <br />His problem is with the fact that a school with blacks tend to be bad. but if it were good, he wouldn't mind sending his kids there. <br /><br />So, he isn't like a 'racist' who wouldn't send his kids even to a good school with lots of blacks because he wants to be with his own kind, because he wants his kids to have white friends, and because he wants to his kids to have children with white spouses. Such a 'racist' may have 'aesthetic' objections to America becoming overly non-white. Indeed, I would say most people around the world are 'racist' in this way. Chinese want China to remain Chinese, Kenyans want Kenya to remain black, Greeks want Greece to remain mostly Greek, etc. Such a 'racist' may not hate other races, but in his own nation or community, he wants to preserve the uniqueness of his people. He wants his nation or community to be filled with people who LOOK like him and his family. He may tolerate or welcome some degree of diversity but he doesn't want to be swamped by them. <br /><br />Liberals generally have less such feelings or worries. They don't care about preserving whiteness. They'll welcome and integrate with anyone of any color as long as he or she is decent and nice. <br />So, blackness in looks and features don't bother white liberals, and if white features get all mixed with non-white ones, they don't care either. But white liberals don't wanna integrate with dangerous people, and many such people tend to be black. Now, liberals are avoiding them for their dangerousness than for their blackness, but over time, some more honest observers would notice that the link between blackness and dangerousness isn't just some random accidental arbitrary fluke. Nor is it purely the result of past history of injustice or poverty. No, there is a racial link between blacks and dangerousness because blacks are physically stronger, temperamentally more aggressive, emotionally less inhibited, and morally more psychopathic. <br /><br />Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) (or Sociopathy (/ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθ/)) is a personality trait or disorder characterised partly by enduring antisocial behavior, a diminished capacity for empathy or remorse, and poor behavioral controls.[1]<br /><br />Thus, if the liberal is honest, he will admit his avoidance of blacks on the basis of dangerousness actually has a race-ist element since there are genuine racial differences that account for why so many blacks are troublesome. Even non-criminals like Obama, Holder, Oprah, Cornel West, and Jesse Jackson seem to have far less integrity than people of other races. <br /><br />Even so, since not all blacks are dangerous and since affluent liberals do make friends with some affluent nice negroes, they can perpetuate the myth that all whites and all blacks can get along happily together. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36957340558534680352013-08-13T15:16:23.510-07:002013-08-13T15:16:23.510-07:00Who in these United States has, since the sixties,...Who in these United States has, since the sixties, contributed more to the ruin and suffering of feckless blacks: racists, or Liberals?<br />Jonathan Silbernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6450482550895954832013-08-13T14:58:10.173-07:002013-08-13T14:58:10.173-07:00Not wanting to live with blacks most often has not...<i>Not wanting to live with blacks most often has nothing to do dislike for black skin than fear of the black fist that all too often happens to be associated with racial crime in this country.</i><br /><br />True, hardly anyone is bothered by mere skin color, but even if blacks had no special penchant for violence, I would still avoid them because of their contempt for English. Same reason I'm against Mexican immigration - I don't want to have to hear Mayan/Spanish everywhere. You young folks out there: the libs of the '60/70's had a chance to couple the extension of civil rights to blacks with a requirement of meeting white standards, but they deliberately whiffed on that, endorsing separatism. That is the crux of the story you're now living with. usticutenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90745954186590932752013-08-13T14:32:36.101-07:002013-08-13T14:32:36.101-07:00Matthew said...”The rich white liberal sending his...Matthew said...”The rich white liberal sending his kid(s) to Sidwell Friends will reply that 40% of students at Sidwell Friends are "ethnic minorities"...It's a bit more subtle than just sealing themselves off from diversity. To the extent that elite whites have to experience diversity, they get a highly selective form of it.”<br /><br />Even worse, my friend isn’t a liberal. He self-identifies as a “conservative” (though his views are pure WSJ editorial page nonsense). He gets the joke on the “diversity” at Sidwell and has cracked about them welcoming D.C. blacks as long as they live on the 1600 block of Pennsylvania Avenue or their father is some corrupt African diplomat. My friend knows all about diversity. He just won’t admit it.<br /><br />The high school that we both attended (suburban DC) in the late 70’s and early 80’s was about 15% black – mostly bused in from elsewhere in the county. If they wanted to learn they’d put them in regular classes. About half the bused in kids fell into this category. For the other half they had a few rooms on the ground floor near where the band practiced and where the baseball batting cages and weight room and the auto body shop were located. The rooms were collectively known as “day care” or less charitably “the zoo” by other students. They could sit in there and beat on their desks as if it was a drum and impregnate the girls and watch TV and generally do as they liked. There would be a “teacher” who’d sit and read comic books or sports magazines and make sure they didn’t kill each other. At the end of four years they’d hand them a diploma and send them on their way. To be fair, there were a few white dolts down in these rooms as well. In those days there were no “Hispanics”. Our other minorities were the Vietnamese that began showing up en masse in Maryland and N. Virginia in the mid 70’s after Saigon fell. The Vietnamese kids were all in normal or AP classes and were very well-behaved. Because none of them played sports or would dream of taking auto shop, I doubt they even were aware of the existence of the Day Care section. Once the old school principal that had been there since the early 60’s retired, they closed The Zoo and tried to make the nitwits go to regular classes. Fortunately I was gone by then. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69918566536032639352013-08-13T14:30:06.526-07:002013-08-13T14:30:06.526-07:00something more devious down the road (from a legal...<i>something more devious down the road (from a legal standpoint) to come.</i><br /><br />You bet. As I was saying.<br /><br />What were those public confession ordeals the Red Guard used to impose...watch the libs cravenly debase themselves. Then the fingers will point straight at us.<br /><br />Paranoid? Maybe.carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31892133507134751592013-08-13T14:25:31.568-07:002013-08-13T14:25:31.568-07:00Man bites dog = dog bites man, if you insist on ig...Man bites dog = dog bites man, if you insist on ignoring the fact that dogs typically bite men and not the other way around.<br /><br />But dog bites man isn't very interesting, which is why I'd like to know about racist attitudes specifically among people in interracial marriages.Power Childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13365109338643310492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12134244614685697132013-08-13T14:21:57.010-07:002013-08-13T14:21:57.010-07:00The door is open even wider for black success, but...<i>The door is open even wider for black success, but the problem is too few blacks make the cut and too many blacks--who are physically tougher and more aggressive than whites--commit violence or threatening acts.</i><br /><br />I'll never forget a front-page series the WSJ did on race/workplace in the '90's. They interviewed a black executive at IBM, who complained, "you have to be non-threatening," as if such requirement didn't apply to everyone.helene edwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74373349312768505292013-08-13T13:38:03.173-07:002013-08-13T13:38:03.173-07:00I don't like this. It appears as though some b...I don't like this. It appears as though some busybodies in the media are taking it upon themselves to ascertain motives into people's thoughts regarding whether or not they harbor "racist" thoughts and feelings.<br /><br />I don't like it. Could be a precedent to something more devious down the road (from a legal standpoint) to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87098236083591046662013-08-13T13:17:47.209-07:002013-08-13T13:17:47.209-07:00Lol these "studies" still employ the sam...Lol these "studies" still employ the same methodology as their great granddaddy, "The Authoritarian Personality": ask some whites (and only whites) some banal questions about normal and healthy group preference, portray those giving the healthy response as moral reprobates or "potential fascists," use the "findings" to expound on the unique evil of whites, disseminate within friendly media outlets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com