tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7466927866975465269..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: 100 meters: Why so Anglophone?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88195638598298053782008-09-12T17:07:00.000-07:002008-09-12T17:07:00.000-07:00If You want to talk about not running but how to s...If You want to talk about not running but how to stand and fight try me. SerbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42033257212386561582008-08-25T07:23:00.000-07:002008-08-25T07:23:00.000-07:00Jamaica has a very well developed system of coache...Jamaica has a very well developed system of coaches and training facilities all over the island. Usain isn't inexperienced; he just didn't have INTERNATIONAL experience. They have a natural edge that is amplified by a national system. You don't just walk out the womb with the right set of genes and become the best sprinter. You have to work at it, just like anything else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38873534444509292592008-08-23T07:29:00.000-07:002008-08-23T07:29:00.000-07:00I love how some of the posters think social factor...I love how some of the posters think social factors are particularly relevant here. This is a simple sprint Steve is writing about, not gymnastics. There is probably no sport on earth that relies less on technique than sprinting.<BR/><BR/>Bolt was a prodigy from his early teen years, and broke the 100 meter world record in his fourth race. He didn't need a lifetime of special training. What he needed was what he had. . . quite possibly the best set of genes in human history for sprinting.<BR/><BR/>Why Jamaicans are better than other west Africans is something no one knows right now. But it is a virtual certainty that the cause will be nature and not nurture.<BR/><BR/>If someone can come up with a viable "nurture" explanation as to how the least experienced sprinter in that race was able to run a 9.69 while showboating for the last 15 meters. . . well, I'd love to read it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84046785266238175562008-08-21T14:54:00.000-07:002008-08-21T14:54:00.000-07:00Since Mr Sailer likes using stats it would be nice...Since Mr Sailer likes using stats it would be nice to see several different stats (or whatever he can find close to a "stat") between United States and Brazil.For example how long do they train,how much does the state pay for training ectect. <BR/><BR/>interesting<BR/>http://digg.com/olympics/Michael_Phelps_Great_Skill_or_Swimwear_TechnologyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9477058531240461102008-08-21T08:22:00.001-07:002008-08-21T08:22:00.001-07:00Wariner lost. Boo hoo. He slowed to a walk when he...Wariner lost. Boo hoo. He slowed to a walk when he saw that Merritt had beaten him. Will you criticize him for being a sour-grapes loser as you criticized Bolt for being a grandstander?<BR/><BR/>http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/beijing_olympics/story/0,27313,24218955-5016798,00.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559830693993775055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12169882585846420752008-08-20T18:26:00.000-07:002008-08-20T18:26:00.000-07:00Why no Haitian sprinters? Most Haitians are coal ...Why no Haitian sprinters? Most Haitians are coal black and of 100% West African origin. They are blacker and more numerous than Jamaicans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12661379394941249932008-08-20T17:28:00.000-07:002008-08-20T17:28:00.000-07:00"(No) East Africans ... have ever been world class..."(No) East Africans ... have ever been world class world-class at 100m or even 200m."<BR/>One East African in the 200m final. Is that not world-class enough for you? Do your research. These Olympic posts have been your sloppiest for a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21915334543133170962008-08-20T11:44:00.000-07:002008-08-20T11:44:00.000-07:00Volleyball is not really culturally friendly to bl...Volleyball is not really culturally friendly to black american males. plus, if you don't know the technique it can be very frustrating and boring to play. Plus, Volleyball can have very complex offenses and strategic situations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83393832702247517932008-08-20T10:20:00.000-07:002008-08-20T10:20:00.000-07:00If there is a genetic difference it would show up ...If there is a genetic difference it would show up as a faster average for the populations as a whole, rather than just comparing the fastest of one to the fastest of the other.Your Correspondent https://www.blogger.com/profile/17440467058108985654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34584239641834444852008-08-20T10:18:00.000-07:002008-08-20T10:18:00.000-07:00Could generations of slavery have changed the gene...Could generations of slavery have changed the genetic makeup? Only the fast survived?<BR/><BR/>Or possibly escaping from predatory animals in parts of Africa?<BR/><BR/>Going the other way, could media such as TV have influenced blacks to try harder in sprinting?<BR/><BR/>And what are the chances it's just a statistical fluke?Your Correspondent https://www.blogger.com/profile/17440467058108985654noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43337151524059013282008-08-20T08:52:00.000-07:002008-08-20T08:52:00.000-07:00Usain Bolt just ran 200M in 19.3 seconds. Awesome....Usain Bolt just ran 200M in 19.3 seconds. Awesome.<BR/><BR/>http://voices.washingtonpost.com/olympics/2008/08/track_flash_bolt_wins_200_in_w.html?hpid=topnewsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559830693993775055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18709523202185778012008-08-20T06:08:00.000-07:002008-08-20T06:08:00.000-07:00"Last weekend I was watching part of a men's (non-...<I>"Last weekend I was watching part of a men's (non-beach) volleyball game between the United States and (IIRC) Bulgaria. It surprised me that none of the U.S. players were black"</I><BR/><BR/>Well, in volleyball, the speed/cutting advantage that west African blacks have over whites is not useful. Also, whites have a much higher tolerance of appearing uncool, a needed trait in men's volleyball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62020653400909857322008-08-20T06:00:00.000-07:002008-08-20T06:00:00.000-07:00miscegenation laws were not really a consequence o...miscegenation laws were not really a consequence of racism. These laws were passed to keep the poor whites from uniting with the blacks against the rich, who were mostly white. The rich whites (and the upper class whites who voted them into office (remember, most whites could not vote in those days--property requirements) were afraid of the power represented by the union of blacks and poor whites, who were actually indentured slaves themselves or former or runaway indentured slaves. Witness the Bacon Rebellion where poor whites and blacks united to burn Jamestown to the ground. <BR/><BR/>You see, the divide et impera maxim was used most artfully by the north american colonial elite,and not used at all in most of the other colonies. THe skin color caste created over 300 years ago by the colonial elite is still in existence today, albeit in shreds (ask me and I will tell you more about that later).<BR/><BR/>-cryofanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60169533188570901012008-08-20T05:44:00.000-07:002008-08-20T05:44:00.000-07:00There is a more important reason why Latin America...There is a more important reason why Latin American blacks tend to have less African ancestry. Natural increase was negative among slaves in Latin America (because it was cheaper to import them than to let them reproduce). It was positive only among free blacks, who were often the mulatto offspring of slaveowners. When Brazil abolished slavery, the state of Bahia went from being predominantly black to predominantly mixed-race in the space of a generation. Most of the slaves died off without leaving any descendants.<BR/><BR/>In the English colonies, and especially in the southern U.S., natural increase tended to be positive because slaves were more expensive than in Latin America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8816399546704458252008-08-20T04:01:00.000-07:002008-08-20T04:01:00.000-07:00@ Mark, Jenkinson plus the Pitts, father and son.@ Mark, Jenkinson plus the Pitts, father and son.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24243343219112940132008-08-19T22:01:00.000-07:002008-08-19T22:01:00.000-07:00"the one-drop rule in the Anglophone world": as fa...<I>"the one-drop rule in the Anglophone world": as far as I know, Steve, it's strictly American. Hell, we've had 3 part-Indian Prime Ministers in Britain.</I><BR/><BR/>Name all three. I've only found one - Jenkinson, who was 1/8th Indian. And I'm fairly certain the USA has had a few "part-Indian" presidents - in our case feathers, not dots.<BR/><BR/>Aside from that, there's a big difference between Indians, who are Caucasian (at least the upper castes), and African blacks; and British prime ministers also aren't subject to popular election.<BR/><BR/><I>So far, their level of dominance has been comparable to the Dream Team (although unlike that team, this one has no white Americans).</I><BR/><BR/>Soooo...when are we going to start hearing about basketball diversity? D'ya suppose Pat Buchanan or Tom Tancredo or Steve Sailer can get that position at the NBA, and get a salary for the stuff they already do anyway?<BR/><BR/><I>Last weekend I was watching part of a men's (non-beach) volleyball game between the United States and (IIRC) Bulgaria. It surprised me that none of the U.S. players were black</I><BR/><BR/>Are black men just completely sucked up by basketball, then? I was watching the women's volleyball team and only 1.5 of the players on the court were white (Logan Tom, who is 1/2 Chinese, and some other girl).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61054703251789754882008-08-19T20:43:00.000-07:002008-08-19T20:43:00.000-07:00I *do* think obvious racial differences exist -- t...<I>I *do* think obvious racial differences exist -- the Irish came rather late to booze compared to the Mediterranean peoples, so my Irish ancestors have far more trouble with it than say, Italians or Spaniards.<BR/><BR/>testing99</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, I think the Irish are adapted to booze, but their adaptation runs more along the lines of tolerance than aversion. <BR/><BR/>The Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews, for example, have a high incidence of <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction" REL="nofollow">missense polymorphism that encodes the enzyme, acetaldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH2)</A>. Antabuse causes the same uncomfortable reaction to booze. <BR/><BR/>Irish, and some other western Europeans, seem to have an otherworldly capacity for ethanol consumption. I have seen it first-hand, and have never observed it in other populations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55213854588371377602008-08-19T19:29:00.000-07:002008-08-19T19:29:00.000-07:00Once Steve said that if the offsides rule were eli...Once Steve said that if the offsides rule were eliminated, blacks would do better at soccer because speed would matter more. What? The exact opposite is true. The offsides rule allows a faster striker to pass a slower defender to get the ball. If there were no offsides rule, strikers would just stand by the goal the whole match and defenders would stand right next to them, making speed much less important. <BR/><BR/>Jamaicans, who show the greatest prowess for sprinting, largely came from what is modern day Ghana. <BR/><BR/>Also, most Brazilian blacks came from Angola in SW Africa and the Congo in Central Africa. Some American blacks came from these places too. A minority came from SE Africa. Like Congolese and Angolans, SE Africans are Bantu people of ultimately West African origin. They spread south and largely replaced the indigenous people of Southern Africa. They are not closely related to the East African ethnic groups who do o well at distance running.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72610118533376527362008-08-19T19:17:00.000-07:002008-08-19T19:17:00.000-07:00What a long chain of nonsense. You seriously think...What a long chain of nonsense. You seriously think you can identify genetic history by who 'looks black' to you?<BR/><BR/>To the extent any of them are of 'African' decent (and who isn't? what does that mean? in the last X generations?), how the heck would you know who is from West and who is from some other part of Africa? Is it in their official Olympic bios?<BR/><BR/>What distinguishes your theory from the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I'll try to help: You need publicly verifiable proof, not random nonsense like "Even the blackest Brazilians aren't as West African as Anglophone blacks -- they may have more South African or East African ancestors". And maybe his noodly appendage made it so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9083048077042809592008-08-19T19:08:00.000-07:002008-08-19T19:08:00.000-07:00Last weekend I was watching part of a men's (non-b...Last weekend I was watching part of a men's (non-beach) volleyball game between the United States and (IIRC) Bulgaria. It surprised me that none of the U.S. players were black, considering that the physical skills required to play Olympic-caliber volleyball are probably quite similar to those of basketball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58770527958268597312008-08-19T19:01:00.000-07:002008-08-19T19:01:00.000-07:00If West African genes are so great, why doesn't Ni...If West African genes are so great, why doesn't Nigeria with 120 million West Africans do better than Jamaica with 2.5 West Africans? No one has come up with a plausible explanation for this. <BR/><BR/>Also, all of the "Canadian" and "British" blacks were Caribbean, mostly Jamaican.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51663048411706516252008-08-19T18:19:00.000-07:002008-08-19T18:19:00.000-07:00Interesting theory, and it makes a lot of sense. W...Interesting theory, and it makes a lot of sense. When you think of it, the Iberian attitude also explains why when you go to Puerto Rico or Brazil you see a whole range of colors, with many people in the cafe au lait range. I found there are so many interracial peopeo found their match at a Blackwhitemeet.com and posted their success story there.Interracialmatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11572760854746186818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84416123785597512402008-08-19T17:10:00.000-07:002008-08-19T17:10:00.000-07:00I'm less than impressed by the idea that innate ra...I'm less than impressed by the idea that innate racial differences account for athletic success or failure in some sports. I *do* think obvious racial differences exist -- the Irish came rather late to booze compared to the Mediterranean peoples, so my Irish ancestors have far more trouble with it than say, Italians or Spaniards. That's an obvious adaptation, as is the European ability to digest milk compared to the Amerindian inability.<BR/><BR/>The Vikings in North America were appalled that the Indians got sick from milk, while the "Skraelings" were convinced the Vikings were trying to poison them.<BR/><BR/>But look at Jim Thorpe and the rather significant amount of Amerindian Professional Athletes in the latter half of the nineteenth century and early twentieth. They were dominant for a while in track, football, baseball, bicycle racing, then just disappeared. And yeah, back in the 1890's, track bicycle racing was huge.<BR/><BR/>In boxing, another "pure" sport that depends on a lot innate ability (pain endurance, endurance/strength balance, etc), at various times, Irish, Jews, Italians, Mexicans, Blacks, and Eastern Europeans have dominated different weight classes and/or the entire sport.<BR/><BR/>While there are obvious racial differences, I don't think you can factor culture/economics out of it either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44681277449187413662008-08-19T16:52:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:52:00.000-07:00you are a fucking retardyou are a fucking retardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3178963784366247352008-08-19T16:43:00.000-07:002008-08-19T16:43:00.000-07:00Steve, I hope that at some point you comment on th...Steve, I hope that at some point you comment on the American basketball team´s reassertion of black American dominance of world basketball (assuming they keep going as they have been, of course). There´s a lot of racist dumping on American basketball, mostly by people who haven´t kept up with the NBA and don´t appreciate how black Anericans have learned to combine their athletic ability with intense team defense, as well as using it for unprecedented positional flexibility, which allows for a whole new level of improvisational teamwork on the court. All of these developments were in full display as the U.S. team demolished their opponents in pool play. So far, their level of dominance has been comparable to the Dream Team (although unlike that team, this one has no white Americans). But of course their achievement would be much more impressive than the Dream Team, since European and South American countries have moved light-years ahead in basketball ability since 1992.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com