tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7528821091984078350..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Any changes in college prestige?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1966012819415978502010-10-06T14:59:36.703-07:002010-10-06T14:59:36.703-07:00Last guy commenting here, but this is where you...Last guy commenting here, but this is where you'd want to look for new prestigious colleges: start with a list of huge donations to small schools. For example, there was a little state school in southern New Jersey that was given $100 million by a local billionaire who I don't think was even an alumnus of it (Rowan University). I don't know if it's on the national radar screen, but I'm sure it's more prestigious now than it was before the big donation.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81644424718705402972010-10-05T17:02:59.571-07:002010-10-05T17:02:59.571-07:00Oddly enough, back during CUNY's golden age, s...<i><b>Oddly enough</b>, back during CUNY's golden age, students barely had to pay anything for their education(the state and city subsidized almost all of it); now that a CUNY education is utterly worthless, its costs prohibit many students from attending.</i> <br /><br />Gee, that is <i>odd</i>.<br /><br />Who'da thunk it?<br /><br />Must be just one of those strange coincidences.<br /><br />Nothing to see here folks - now move along.<br /><br />Skit. Skedaddle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26478621060098183602010-10-05T09:27:00.752-07:002010-10-05T09:27:00.752-07:00Pepperdine moving from Watts to Maibu seems to hav...Pepperdine moving from Watts to Maibu seems to have worked out.<br /><br />GoatweedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3192126164512304912010-10-05T08:32:05.414-07:002010-10-05T08:32:05.414-07:00"And I'm sorry but it's not "HYP..."And I'm sorry but it's not "HYPS" it's "HYP". Stanford is on a slightly lower plane and always has been."<br /><br />Truly, it's just "H"Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3391934082766455962010-10-05T08:31:57.892-07:002010-10-05T08:31:57.892-07:00Truth/Dutch Boy:
What would UNLV stand for?Truth/Dutch Boy:<br /><br />What would UNLV stand for?Omnivorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33236685060147117502010-10-05T07:13:44.651-07:002010-10-05T07:13:44.651-07:00"With the end of anti-Jewish quotas in the Iv..."With the end of anti-Jewish quotas in the Ivy League, the former outlet of high IQ Jewish kids, CUNY, has gone downhill since the 1940s, or such is my perception."<br /><br />That may have been part of it, but CUNY was still a well-regarded university system until the 1960s when they introduced their open admissions policy, due to rioting black and Hispanic students. This new policy allowed any high school grad to attend CUNY. Oddly enough, back during CUNY's golden age, students barely had to pay anything for their education(the state and city subsidized almost all of it); now that a CUNY education is utterly worthless, its costs prohibit many students from attending. <br /><br />City College, the most elite of CUNY schools was once referred to as "the poor man's Harvard" many decades ago. This is no longer the case obviously, but CUNY has slowly regained some lost prestige in recent years with this new honors program as well as making it a little harder for anyone to attend(like having students pay for their own education).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63100008113031873182010-10-04T19:44:43.633-07:002010-10-04T19:44:43.633-07:00Asians are grinds, but they're plenty smart to...Asians are grinds, but they're plenty smart too. Look at Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. <br /><br />Hispanics, blacks, Native Americans, Filipinos, Pacific Islanders, and other NAMS would be better off picking an easy, mildly technical major (industrial engineering, economics, marketing, sales, business) rather than batting the ferociously competitive Asian and Indian premeds for a shot at Dr. status.<br /> <br />I can guarantee you that Indian-American kids are fairly bright, but a lot the overrepresentation in medicine is because of pushy, status/money driven parents. There's also a willingness, among kids, to work diligently and endure hardship in order to make it. So you see a lot of Indian kids go to the Carribean to study medicine and hope that they can pass the USMLE to get to practice medicine here. Some can and some can't, but the willigness to work hard and sacrifice is pretty strong. I'd bet Asians must be the same way, though to a lesser extent. I think Iranians and perhaps Eastern Europeans/Russian immigrants are this way too.<br /><br />IQ matters.... but family, personality, and work/study habits make a major difference, especially in academics. To the extent that Asians/Indians beat whites, I'd say IQ is of somewhat lesser significance than these other factors. You'll notice that the more fobby the Asian/Indian, the more grindish they tend to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84057336555363236532010-10-04T18:57:40.192-07:002010-10-04T18:57:40.192-07:00Sports has obviously helped for some schools - Duk...Sports has obviously helped for some schools - Duke, obviously (though not without hits to the schools reputation). Notre Dame isn't as good at football as they used to be but they've taken over Georgetown at the best Catholic school. Boston College used good sports and a good location to rival the lower Ivies. Similarly, GWU and NYU are much better than when I was applying to college; more people (Especially girls) want to live in cities.<br /><br />And I'm sorry but it's not "HYPS" it's "HYP". Stanford is on a slightly lower plane and always has been.Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76744365580130073162010-10-04T17:58:44.735-07:002010-10-04T17:58:44.735-07:00And oh yes, Karen Owen is a "nice" and &...And oh yes, Karen Owen is a "nice" and "smart" girl. No different really from many girls at schools like Duke. The only difference is her emailed powerpoint went viral.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2968195462169432292010-10-04T17:55:31.321-07:002010-10-04T17:55:31.321-07:00"The quality of students at elite US universi..."The quality of students at elite US universities has gone up in recent decades because the average American is much more interested in elite education than they were in the past."<br /><br />Is this a conjecture or something known as a fact?<br /><br />When comparing academic journals from the 1960s versus the present, I can't help but see a huge disparity in the quality of writing and analysis. Engineering and science papers from the 60's typically required a lot of heavy mental lifting. Most engineering and science papers today are highly formulaic, depend heavily on canned computer routines, and usually hew closely to conventional wisdom. And they are poorly written, partly because so many of the authors are ESL writers. This would suggest elite colleges produced better students in the '60s.<br /><br />In terms of creative product and raw ability, I do believe students coming out of the Ivy League are worse in 2010 than in 1970, or the 1950s, for that matter. Test prep has a lot to do with it because now a lot of 95%-tile students are capable of faking higher intelligence on standardized college entrance exams. It's harder for admissions people to see who's really making it and who's faking it so they are more likely to admit substandard students. It's the reason for so much prejudice against Asian students who are most likely to have prep-enhanced SAT scores (Harvard and Princeton re-normalize Asian scores, as they should). That and the fact that Asians donate less money as alumni.<br /><br />I think elite universities should abolish standardized testing for their own testing. That way incoming students have a verifiable core of knowledge and set of advanced academic skills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65941233993257673462010-10-04T17:47:50.789-07:002010-10-04T17:47:50.789-07:00Oh speaking of Duke ...
the Duke University F-Lis...Oh speaking of Duke ...<br /><br /><a href="http://deadspin.com/5652280/the-full-duke-university-fuck-list-thesis-from-a-former-female-student/gallery/" rel="nofollow">the Duke University F-List</a> from a young woman who prepared a mock thesis powerpoint on her various liasons. The university is mad, her liasons are mad (she rated some of them poorly for expertise and equipment) ... and she's got a book deal and possibly a movie deal!<br /><br />Nevertheless, Duke is experiencing stuff that is going to hurt them. Full Freight White guys will think of other places, and definitely their parents. Too much PC can definitely hurt you if you're not Harvard and Yale, and even that can be questionable. I'd think that Virginia can possibly move ahead (no question VT's been hurt by a number of issues including the on-campus shooter, Rutgers by the suicide).Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64060250153672273222010-10-04T17:34:21.347-07:002010-10-04T17:34:21.347-07:00A long term bet is schools in the Mountain West as...A long term bet is schools in the Mountain West as Whites increasingly move to Whitopia. This would include, aside from Boise State, Univ. of Idaho, Univ of Utah, BYU, Univ. of Wyoming, Univ of Nevada, UNLV, Univ. of Montana, and perhaps Univ. of New Mexico and New Mexico State (as the Hispanic population, though poor, is stable, and seems to experience little in-migration). So too, Univ of Colorado, and Colorado State.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24545263958034035452010-10-04T16:20:58.557-07:002010-10-04T16:20:58.557-07:00The quality of students at elite US universities h...The quality of students at elite US universities has gone up in recent decades because the average American is much more interested in elite education than they were in the past. The smart kid who might have attended State U in 1980 is now using the common application to apply to a dozen top private universities. It is easy to check this assertion by looking at test scores over time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69257673383881296672010-10-04T15:58:54.534-07:002010-10-04T15:58:54.534-07:00I'm in the medical field so I may see Wash U d...I'm in the medical field so I may see Wash U differently. Their medical school is very well respected.<br /><br />As such - for us at least - some of that prestige also rubs off on folks who go there for undergrad.SKTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60952797348822780522010-10-04T14:02:24.584-07:002010-10-04T14:02:24.584-07:00Anonymous said...
Racial predatory loans fuel...<i>Anonymous said...<br /><br /> Racial predatory loans fueled U.S. housing crisis</i><br /><br />Bad resarch leads to bad policy, which leads to bad results, creating a demand for still worse research leading to still worse policy...and so on.keypusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07176947522040838625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25018349123328172142010-10-04T13:47:04.005-07:002010-10-04T13:47:04.005-07:00***
UT-Austin admissions
As a former student, I c...***<br />UT-Austin admissions<br /><br />As a former student, I can attest to the fact that there were many unqualified students from the "colonia" parts of Texas (south and west). There were also many unqualified students from the country. These kids were usually white. <br /><br />The suburban Asians and whites who can't get in the first time can usually transfer in. I've known many Hispanic students who couldn't hack it and dropped out. Many of them would come in with grand visions of being doctors, but quickly dropped those dreams as they came across Asians who were not only smarter, but had better work ethic and study habits. <br /><br />Some of the kids could have succeeded if they had been given proper training in high school. Some of them would have been doomed either way. Some of them made it out in easier majors. Some of them were gifted enough to overcome the obstacles. <br /><br />Even though Texas law allows for the top 10% (now 8%~) kids to get in to UT-Austin, I did not see a noticeable population of urban blacks. Blacks were still underrepresented despite the de facto AA policy. And many of the blacks I knew were second-generation blacks.The Asian of Reasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07518010845263444471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57138997235952002572010-10-04T13:10:03.204-07:002010-10-04T13:10:03.204-07:00Off topic, but not sure where to post it. I have ...Off topic, but not sure where to post it. I have been LMFAOing at 419eater.com (site debated to internet trolling of Nigerian email fraudsters). they get these guys to go on trips, send money, make nude photos. It's hard core Internet trolling. Seems to show the Internet as a mechanism and also interesting things about Africa. Some of the "master baiters" even learn African languages and culture to better screw with the fraudsters...<br /><br />Got one fellow to create a portfolio of pics and sign an application to be a porn star. Another couple were routed to foreign countries and burned up their own money for travel for weeks (with family going crazy at the expenses). Another dude was convinced to build a go-kart and dress up as a crocodile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91746489802817676542010-10-04T13:05:43.264-07:002010-10-04T13:05:43.264-07:00Raising funds from alumni and other donors is a bi...Raising funds from alumni and other donors is a big thing. They want to point to the size of their endowment and think that moves them up the prestige rankings. President Beinen made that a priority at Northwestern (and had experience from Princeton playing that game). Also the usual in terms of hiring prestige research professors and the like (that have little correlation to undergrad education, but still the brand seems to be helped). There may be something in terms of increased grad school education and b-schools and the like, but I don't really have a formed thought on that...just noting that we are turning into an MBA society...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2208640175345908672010-10-04T13:02:11.839-07:002010-10-04T13:02:11.839-07:00re AA pervading all of college, I assume everyone ...re AA pervading all of college, I assume everyone here is aware of what a Harvard government prof., Harvey Mansfield, told his students in 2002. He said from now on I'll give you two grades, your real grade and your transcript grade. The former is what you would have earned prior to 1975, when AA starting watering standards down. He explicitly told them that in order to avoid flunking blacks, C+'s had to become A's for everyone else.alonzo portfolionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30128667844561684752010-10-04T12:55:00.992-07:002010-10-04T12:55:00.992-07:00I think what we need an intrepid blogger to do is ...I think what we need an intrepid blogger to do is divine to what extent (we already know how) the UC system has been evading gaming Prop. 209. I assume that absent that gaming, there could have been no WSJ front page story in 2005about a Vietnamese kid from Garden Grove with a 1560 SAT score who got rejected by UCLA.not a hackernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57280212494130892852010-10-04T11:59:34.913-07:002010-10-04T11:59:34.913-07:00Sorry OT, but in this photo of Tiger at the Ryder ...Sorry OT, but in this photo of Tiger at the Ryder Cup, check out the Paki with the cigar in the front row. If only our vibrants were this civilized. <br /><br />http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Tiger-Woods-gives-us-the-greatest-golf-photo-you?urn=golf-274331helene edwardsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12937793576260857812010-10-04T10:56:22.755-07:002010-10-04T10:56:22.755-07:00George Mason is near the center of power
Yes, as ...<i>George Mason is near the center of power</i><br /><br />Yes, as is UMCP, and GWU. Georgetown has been pretty highly ranked for a while, but those others have not been. Physical proximity to power matters. The absence of top schools in the imperial capital is a mismatch of prestige to power that started after WWII, and is steadily correcting itself.Leonardhttp://unruled.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6019447346496845622010-10-04T10:38:03.821-07:002010-10-04T10:38:03.821-07:00Stanford definitely is more prestigious than most ...Stanford definitely is more prestigious than most of the Ivies, and harder to get into. Less prestigious than Harvard, but more so than the rest except possibly Yale, though that's heavily for old name sake. Among the Ivies, Brown, Dartmouth, U Penn and Cornell are definitely less prestigious than Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Columbia. <br /><br />The most prestigious and best engineering schools are MIT, CalTech and Stanford. <br /><br />The most prestigious non Ivies outside of engineering are Stanford, Berkeley, U. Chicago, Duke, U. Michigan.Doug1https://www.blogger.com/profile/13948793969077395057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16357411162013821502010-10-04T10:15:50.146-07:002010-10-04T10:15:50.146-07:00"I guess no one remembers the massive decline..."I guess no one remembers the massive decline of the University of Chicago from one of the very top schools in the country back in the early to mid 20th century to where it is today -- perhaps top 20 but definitely not top 10."<br /><br />The University of Chicago was never much interested in training undergrads, even back in the 50's. It still has many top 5 graduate departments, especially in math and science, but 18 year old kids avoid it because of its isolation in the middle of one of the most dangerous black slums in America. <br /><br />The U of C police keep Hyde Park very safe, though; actually, they do a much better job of protecting students than the Cambridge, MA police, who are tied up by PC rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11279135915535716052010-10-04T10:00:52.352-07:002010-10-04T10:00:52.352-07:00@ Steve Wood: "Has there been a similar pheno...@ Steve Wood: "Has there been a similar phenomenon in other states?"<br /><br />Apparently the University of Georgia has benefited greatly from the HOPE scholarship program. This is funded by the Georgia state lottery, and it means that any resident of Georgia who maintains a B average goes to an in-state school tuition free. Given the rise in tuition charges over the last twenty years, this is an offer too good for many people to refuse, and so students who might have gone to Duke or even Yale are now going to UGA. They have been able to significantly raise their SAT scores as a result. It's still a big party school, with football team, etc. but a smarter one. Other state schools have also been able to raise their standards although not by as much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com