tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post75624287227215742..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: A black Obama cynic explainsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-61758142854801923392011-10-18T11:17:05.278-07:002011-10-18T11:17:05.278-07:00Lets just be people. I am a Brown American Woman, ...Lets just be people. I am a Brown American Woman, who finds its so sad that in this day and age. People are refered to as "Blacks". Why does the color of a persons skins matter. Would you go into a room full of people and say, Hey, thiers the blacks, theirs the mexicans, theirs the whites. My mother told me that when people say mean and unflattering things about others, that maybe something in their lives is not right. I myself am not riding the Obama bandwagon. But I'm not bashing him or other cultures in the process either. I knew if he was elected that the racial tension would heighten. Everything in the world today is speculation and assumption. I feel sorry for the masses who can't think for themseleves. Unless you have sat down and had a personal conversation with Obama himself. How can you really know what is fact or fiction. <br />You Won't!<br />But, its freedom of speech right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5583768948841190352008-11-11T09:58:00.000-08:002008-11-11T09:58:00.000-08:00Do you honestly believe that every black person th...Do you honestly believe that every black person that voted for him did so because of Michelle??? That's rather narrow minded of you. Michelle didn't have anything to do with it and neither did any of is books. I, personally, did not read his books. <BR/><BR/>I think you are entitled to your opinion as I am mine, however, for you to just assume that the reason that people are supporting him because of his wife or the color of his skin is ludicrous. While it may have held true during the primaries (because I didn't know who I was voting for until I got up to the booth and then I thought about it long and hard before then) but not during the election.<BR/><BR/>I'm a black woman and I am not a registered Republican nor am I registered Democrat. I have voted both ways before. I based my vote on the issues, mainly health care, the war and the economy (not in that order). <BR/><BR/>I believe that no one in this country wants to go without health care and that if it were more affordable to everyone that they will pay for it. I also believe that we shouldn't be in Iraq but that we should have been in Afghanistan and FINISHED there before going other places. This two front war is killing us and McCain wanted to start stuff with Iran and we just do not have the troop strength for it. The reason that people aren't lined up to sign up is because most of them don't believe in the war in Iraq because that would be where they were being sent. <BR/>The economy is in shambles and to this day people are still trying to blame it on Obama since he was elected. I'm sure had McCain won they wouldn't be. He hasn't taken office yet and it didn't happen over night and it won't be fixed over night. <BR/>Give the MAN a chance. <BR/><BR/>Let me ask you? Would you have been this hard on him if he had been white?<BR/><BR/>Probably not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62979278160921250762008-05-18T11:49:00.000-07:002008-05-18T11:49:00.000-07:00i go to starbucks (when I came back from in 1985 i...i go to starbucks (when I came back from in 1985 i absolutely hated the coffee situation in this country--weak and insipid. Many returned Americans felt the same way and within a few years, lo, starbucks and lattes); I like Apple; I'm one of those "whiter" white people who might be expected to vote for blacks because it's the RIGHT thing to do (for whom?).<BR/> But Obama has repulsed me from the first time I heard of him. The Wright stuff, and the Michelle stuff has only made my nauseated feeling increase--I can hardly stand to see the name.<BR/> I was never susceptible to the cult because i saw through the phoniness. I can imagine voting for a black person, though virtually none of the black mayors have been anything except anti-white, so maybe I'm a slow study. still, a US president is different.<BR/>I could vote for Charles Wrangle for example, though I don't really know what race he is-some sort of black I guess.<BR/> Which reminds me. Wrangle sees what is coming vis a vis Obama. Manning is right and Wrangle has firmly supported Hillary against all expectations. He's no fool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46538049899511737712008-05-17T21:53:00.000-07:002008-05-17T21:53:00.000-07:00Anon - "Unless I'm reading this comment incorrectl...Anon - "Unless I'm reading this comment incorrectly, it sounds like Svigor is confirming people like Michelle Obama's worst fears about violent white racists."<BR/><BR/>Funny then that so often violent white racists are the dogs that dont bark but violent black racists bark and yap all too often, oh sorry they are just muggings gone wrong arent they.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51204985926284151402008-05-17T11:58:00.000-07:002008-05-17T11:58:00.000-07:00"Something similar is true for the Bob Bar[sic]-lo...<I>"Something similar is true for the Bob Bar[sic]-lookalike Rev. Wright"<BR/><BR/>Something I've been wondering about, as well. What do we know about Wright's family background? White momma? Single or two parent family? White schools?</I><BR/><BR/>What of Bob Barr's ancestry? He certainly looks like he could have black blood (as implied in original post). Perhaps not much less than Wright's. His wiki entry has nothing other than his parents being in the military.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50169782586857221032008-05-17T10:40:00.000-07:002008-05-17T10:40:00.000-07:00I listened to most of the Rev. Wright "G*d d*amn A...I listened to most of the Rev. Wright "G*d d*amn AmeriKKKa" sermon. The audio is posted somewhere on a black-oriented website. For more than thirty-five minutes of the hour-long sermon he sounds reasonable. The inflammatory parts are a small part of the sermon.<BR/><BR/>This is not meant to excuse Wright but to point out that Cinque is wrong in arguing that there are normal black churches where hating whitey is not on the agenda. I believe that overwhelming majorities of blacks buy into the "white devil" philosophy to some extent; they may not all be ranting and raving about that subject with every sentence out of their mouths but it is there below the surface nonetheless.<BR/><BR/>Similary, educated European Americans don't reaffirm that the Earth is round or that 2 + 2 = 4 with every sentence but it forms part of our consciousness nonetheless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54413953642200450842008-05-17T09:54:00.000-07:002008-05-17T09:54:00.000-07:00I agree that Obama is seen as "wobbly" on the Isra...I agree that Obama is seen as "wobbly" on the Israel issues,whereas Hillary,like an aging cankled Manson Girl,has vowed to kill millions for their sake. McCains "I Have A Dream Speech" makes him seem like a complete lunatic.Obama seems fairly smart,and the only candidate with a modicum of mental health---and I say this after having read all the stuff here about what a raced-base bizarro he is. I'd have to say,"Anyone But McCain" at this point. And the authors comment that "all" blacks believe O.J. is innocent is pure hogwash. Blacks do not believe he is "innocent",as in did not do the crime. They see him as "ginnocent". Guilty,yeah,but really pretty much innocent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2027792348911517442008-05-17T08:03:00.000-07:002008-05-17T08:03:00.000-07:00"Don't confuse Marketing hype and buzz for popular..."Don't confuse Marketing hype and buzz for popularity, otherwise Lindsay Lohan would be the biggest movie star on the planet."<BR/><BR/>Then explain to me how George Clooney is.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-75310351979286498912008-05-17T06:29:00.000-07:002008-05-17T06:29:00.000-07:00Pastor James Manning, who has something of a follo...Pastor James Manning, who has something of a following in Harlem, hates Obama. He's funnier than Chris Rock:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUWyxmWACQ<BR/><BR/>Manning's been MUCH tougher on Obama than Sailer anyday.<BR/><BR/>He sez Barack lied about his grandmama:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjJuATjHpts<BR/><BR/>Obama is a Mac daddy:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU&feature=related<BR/><BR/>Manning's a hoot!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559830693993775055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66262204652922562762008-05-17T04:21:00.000-07:002008-05-17T04:21:00.000-07:00Nah. Obama may be Jesus, but Jesus' political care...<I>Nah. Obama may be Jesus, but Jesus' political career came to a rather abrupt end if I remember correctly.</I><BR/><BR/>Unless I'm reading this comment incorrectly, it sounds like Svigor is confirming people like Michelle Obama's worst fears about violent white racists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62532907876978815582008-05-16T21:06:00.000-07:002008-05-16T21:06:00.000-07:00""Nah. Obama may be Jesus, but Jesus' political ca...""Nah. Obama may be Jesus, but Jesus' political career came to a rather abrupt end if I remember correctly."<BR/><BR/>Maybe, but millions of Svigors all over the world are still donating 10% of their income to his campaign!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36477554797330648032008-05-16T16:43:00.000-07:002008-05-16T16:43:00.000-07:00And would whites really be so into him if he hadn'...<I>And would whites really be so into him if he hadn't had a white mother? Based on U.S. political history, you would have to conclude: not a chance. My suspicion is that people are ultimately comfortable with Obama because a member of his family looks like them--and, if you think about it, that's not terribly transcendent.</I><BR/><BR/>This is completely untrue with regard to my family and friends. There are plenty of Black Candidates we'd be happy to support, and in fact, would be slightly more inclined to vote for them because of being black (for the cause of racial solidarity). <BR/><BR/>We won't, however, vote for an unreconstructed leftist, particularly one who hob-nobs with the radical elite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3501339847797640502008-05-16T14:52:00.000-07:002008-05-16T14:52:00.000-07:00Thank goodness for this man's voice, I was horribl...Thank goodness for this man's voice, I was horribly dismayed to think that Wright's despicable rhetoric and hijacking of the name of Jesus was what was really going on in black churches, as asserted by Obama. <BR/><BR/>And moreover, that the black friends, neighbors, coworkers I know secretly loathe me because of the color of my skin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46337028943027613112008-05-16T14:41:00.000-07:002008-05-16T14:41:00.000-07:00Another black Obama-cynic I like is Glenn Loury.Another black Obama-cynic I like is <A HREF="http://entitledtoanopinion.wordpress.com/2008/04/28/why-the-hell-do-i-like-glenn-loury-so-much/" REL="nofollow">Glenn Loury</A>.TGGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11017651009634767649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58297965237210527862008-05-16T13:56:00.000-07:002008-05-16T13:56:00.000-07:00Something similar is true for the Bob Bar[sic]-loo...<I>Something similar is true for the Bob Bar[sic]-lookalike Rev. Wright</I><BR/><BR/>Something I've been wondering about, as well. What do we know about Wright's family background? White momma? Single or two parent family? White schools?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28434301924032878972008-05-16T13:32:00.000-07:002008-05-16T13:32:00.000-07:00Obama is not Jesus, and his very cult-like appeal ...Obama is not Jesus, and his very cult-like appeal to rich whites will turn off the mass of working class white voters. Only 53% of white voters in places like WV or PA will vote for him.<BR/><BR/>All the Obama-messiah cult stuff turns off the un-hip and un-cool, who hate Starbucks and Apple computer and go to Dunkin Donuts and use Windows.<BR/><BR/>Don't confuse Marketing hype and buzz for popularity, otherwise Lindsay Lohan would be the biggest movie star on the planet.<BR/><BR/>I see the usual "blame the Jews" crowd is out today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14000842212423231712008-05-16T13:09:00.000-07:002008-05-16T13:09:00.000-07:00Peretz is in the tank for Obama because Obama is s...Peretz is in the tank for Obama because Obama is sure to lose to McCain. TNR is a minor player in this game, which will go into the secong half once Obama is nominated.<BR/><BR/>dearieme, you'll get your "evenhandedness" by and by.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40741370482797339152008-05-16T13:03:00.000-07:002008-05-16T13:03:00.000-07:0010% of blacks won't vote for Obama. Is this the ta...10% of blacks won't vote for Obama. Is this the talented tenth we keep hearing about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29137435628279615052008-05-16T12:38:00.000-07:002008-05-16T12:38:00.000-07:00I write only to say that I am a black man whose bl...I write only to say that I am a black man whose black wife is one of the 10 percent of black people who did not support Obama in one the primaries. She would reject out of hand Mr. C. Henderson's attempt to shed some insight on the demographic anomaly. <BR/><BR/>I also want to point out that Mr. Henderson purports to explain the black general population's support for Obama in simplistic terms - such as black women support Obama because of his black wife. He skewers the use of "hoodwink" as a signal of black radicalism when it is used in front of a black audience. The simplistic vision of black political thought Mr. Henderson offers is troubling. <BR/><BR/>When President Bush used the words of a christian hymn in his convention speech or state of the nation address was he signaling an evandelical radicalism that undermined his agenda? I would hope that readers of Sailer's blog who devote time to his theories which I largely reject would grant the black's more social and political nuance in their thinking. The other side (liberal, minorities) may be wrong, but they are not the one button simpletons that you project. <BR/><BR/>And finally, I take issue with the statement that "As the son of a Baptist minister, .... In church, black people hear about Peter, Paul, Mary, and how to get into heaven. How to forgive. How to love. Not how to vote. " <BR/>I too am black and have attended about every version of the black church that is out there and in plenty of them they learn how to vote and who to vote for. If that was not the case, then the fact that George Bush and Republican's have nurtured ties to numerous black mega-churches and their conservative followers would make little sense. I personally know churches that pushed the anti-abortion, no gay marriage agenda and worked closely with republicans in Florida to push that agenda. They traveled to Washington during Pres. Bush's first term to hold a rally on the Capitol regarding gay marriage. Mr. Henderson is simply and demonstrably wrong on this point. Throughout the civil rights era to this very day, black churches have informed and sometimes directly formed the black communities politics for both liberal and conservative purposes. <BR/><BR/>Mr Henderson offers one version of the truth, sadly I find it does not hold up to scrutiny.SameOldJazzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13506170224982085022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42062497838355857792008-05-16T11:44:00.000-07:002008-05-16T11:44:00.000-07:00Candidate Jesus is going to be President Jesus, so...<I>Candidate Jesus is going to be President Jesus, soon enough</I><BR/><BR/>Nah. Obama may be Jesus, but Jesus' political career came to a rather abrupt end if I remember correctly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73837358437214283922008-05-16T07:11:00.000-07:002008-05-16T07:11:00.000-07:00Cinque makes an interesting point. For decades the...Cinque makes an interesting point. For decades the black church has been idealized in the media--in fact, the black church is the only form of religious expression that is never ridiculed. All that raucous singing, dancing, and evangelical ecstasy; what's not to like? Then along comes the Obama and his minister, and seeing Rev. Wright preach was like lifting up a rock and seeing all those creepy, slimy things squirming around underneath. And Obama assured us this was normal, and his supporters took the same "get over it" attitude, and I don't think most white Americans really think it's okay. So either Obama has exposes a very ugly truth that most of us weren't fully aware of, or he has shown himself willing to present a significant part of the black experience as something hateful to further his political ends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49677168593846294002008-05-16T07:05:00.000-07:002008-05-16T07:05:00.000-07:00To me the most interesting point that Cinque makes...To me the most interesting point that Cinque makes is that Obama incorrectly paints most black churches as being like Wright's church so that Obama will not have to admit that he purposely sought out a church as radical as Wright's. <BR/><BR/>Most blacks won't point this out, because they want Obama to win. And black churches may drift to the radical side as a result.RobertHumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03913525250329418444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82851072689669321912008-05-16T06:29:00.000-07:002008-05-16T06:29:00.000-07:00Leave Cinque's name alone. That's what makes his O...Leave Cinque's name alone. That's what makes his Oba-cynicism even more convincing. UNLIKE CHRIS ROCK, he can see a con.<BR/><BR/>I thought his nailing of Michelle as the secret of Obama's appeal was the single most dead-on accurate of anything written in this silly season. He's 100% right. Spread the meme.<BR/><BR/>Teacher.Paris: you are right, TNR is Zionist, but you don't have your thinking cap on straight. TNR has been consistently pro-Obama and anti-Hillary, thus this article is noteworthy. Even Marty Peretz is in the tank for Obama. Perhaps Obama is sending a chill up his leg. Or down it?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559830693993775055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62692258660920463062008-05-16T05:34:00.000-07:002008-05-16T05:34:00.000-07:00I saw a report on Pajama's apology to a reporter f...I saw a report on Pajama's apology to a reporter for addressing her as "sweetie" and thought he came across as decent and open. What struck me was that the media are happy to treat him as decent and open, accepting, I suppose, that we all make mistakes, that we all get tired, or distracted, or whatever. But they assuredly wouldn't make the same allownaces for those they oppose - particularly Republicans (or, in Britain, Conservatives). The lack of even-handedness is striking: I can't, of course, tell how much of the bias in this case is political, how much racial, but I confess that I am weary of the school of journalism that never applies critical scrutiny to politics but endlessly applies jeering-and-sneering to politicians. Sure, Hillary, Bill, Teddy and company are a bunch of crooks, and W is a complete twit, but the media search for "gaffes" is intellectually frivolous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88655631677081436592008-05-16T03:10:00.000-07:002008-05-16T03:10:00.000-07:00The New Republic is a Zionist rag. Many people sus...The New Republic is a Zionist rag. Many people suspect BHO's attachment to war for them is not solid.<BR/>The Witch and the Moron are people they can count on.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00740668904926516649noreply@blogger.com