tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7653309699202362454..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: NYT's sexless victims of sexual abuseUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36967933080982980212012-06-26T21:24:01.034-07:002012-06-26T21:24:01.034-07:00"Blogger Udolpho.com said...
Truth prefe..."Blogger Udolpho.com said...<br /><br /> Truth prefers women of a certain age (50+)."<br /><br />After a lengthy and protracted absence, so nice of you to chime in with such a an englightening and informative comment.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44958440518952287202012-06-26T17:19:39.732-07:002012-06-26T17:19:39.732-07:00"Camp" is just another word for "ef..."Camp" is just another word for "effeminate". <br /><br />This comment made me think about a comment a friend made some years ago about effeminacy and homosexuals. His comment concerned what we think of as "effeminate" mannerisms and speech patterns.<br /><br />It went something like this: "Young boys who are effeminate as well as gay men who are don't act so much like girls or women as they act like old grandmothers or little old ladies."<br /><br />I thought about that and after a while realized it was pretty accurate, especially concerning the speech patterns and the fussiness. If you've ever been around many little old ladies, maybe you'll understand what I mean. They certainly contrast in speech and mannerisms with the young mothers of those gay boys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49622890259042130552012-06-26T14:53:14.243-07:002012-06-26T14:53:14.243-07:00There is a useful distinction between "homose...<i>There is a useful distinction between "homosexual" and "gay". The literal meaning of gay is appropriate for a large proportion of homosexual male</i> <br /><br /><br />What? A large large proportion of homosexual men are cheerful and merry? Get real.<br /><br /><br /><i>for those homosexuals who are not extroverted/flamboyant/talkative/camp, it doesn't fit</i> <br /><br /><br />The proportion of homosexual men who are "extroverted/flamboyant/talkative" is about the same as that for the general population.<br /><br />"Camp" is just another word for "effeminate". Females are not known for their extroverted and merry dispositions either.<br /><br />If you knew any gay/homosexual men in real life you would not make these mistakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91785813321394080562012-06-26T09:48:13.251-07:002012-06-26T09:48:13.251-07:00These child abusers couldn't be gay. They must...These child abusers couldn't be gay. They must instead be Satanists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38448557584817684882012-06-26T09:47:40.641-07:002012-06-26T09:47:40.641-07:00To the gay guy who thinks the closet makes for few...To the gay guy who thinks the closet makes for fewer messed up homosexuals---stories like from today's SF Chronicle, illustrate that being out of the closet doesn't act as a brace against perverted tastes. (S.F. gay rights advocate arrested over child porn-Rachel Gordon, Published 09:21 p.m., Monday, June 25, 2012) <br /><br />Perversion into this kind of stuff crosses orientation lines, but I've no doubt the brain disturbances that cause it are more common among the homo community than the hetero one:<br /><br />Key paragraphs: "San Francisco police have arrested veteran gay rights advocate Larry Brinkin in connection with felony possession of child pornography.<br /><br />"Brinkin, 66, who worked for the San Francisco Human Rights Commission before his retirement in 2010, was taken into custody Friday night. He spent the night in jail before he was released on bail, according to a spokeswoman for the sheriff's department.<br /><br />The district attorney's office will decide Tuesday whether to file charges. "We're still reviewing the case," district attorney's spokeswoman Stephanie Ong Stillman said Monday.<br /><br />Police say that Brinkin had pornographic images, some that appear to show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral sex on adult men, in e-mail attachments linked to his account, according to a search warrant served by San Francisco police." <br /><br />Some "human rights" advocate, huh? Of course, that's what infamous Harry Hay, he of the man-love persuasion, often called himself. Good old Harry had been out of the closet since very young. He was just a sick, perverted bastard, although over the last years lionized as a heroic pioneer by the GLBT community . <br /><br />Link: <br />http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-rights-advocate-arrested-over-child-porn-3662138.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8876608002465455412012-06-26T07:55:46.230-07:002012-06-26T07:55:46.230-07:00http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-rights...http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/S-F-gay-rights-advocate-arrested-over-child-porn-3662138.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19140247334475968712012-06-26T03:24:47.193-07:002012-06-26T03:24:47.193-07:00There is a useful distinction between "homose...There is a useful distinction between "homosexual" and "gay". The literal meaning of gay is appropriate for a large proportion of homosexual males, which is probably why it was adopted in the first place. But for those homosexuals who are not extroverted/flamboyant/talkative/camp, it doesn't fit. As Steve pointed out many years ago, lesbians aren't gay, and equally not all homosexual men are. My impression - I have no evidence beyond anecdotes and casual observation - is that male paedophiles - i.e. bona fide child molesters - tend to fall towards the non-gay end of the homosexual spectrum. Fairly obviously, homosexuals at all points on the spectrum are heavily ephebophlic and hebephilic.<br /><br />P.S. is it biologically correct to describe any form of deliberate homosexual activity as "sexual"? "Quasi-sexual" is surely more accurate.Londonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33033449301594738292012-06-25T23:32:00.542-07:002012-06-25T23:32:00.542-07:00"You'd never find Sandunky in a gay bar, ..."You'd never find Sandunky in a gay bar, a gay bathhouse, reading gay web sites, watching gay movies, or even associating with self-identified gays."<br /><br /><br />Well, at least he had that going for him. After all, those things are just so darned indicative of mental health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9753692239641292962012-06-25T20:14:57.019-07:002012-06-25T20:14:57.019-07:00Truth prefers women of a certain age (50+).Truth prefers women of a certain age (50+).Udolpho.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12976984423336975944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6361724569512093112012-06-25T18:53:46.942-07:002012-06-25T18:53:46.942-07:00"attraction to youthful 14 year old girls is ..."attraction to youthful 14 year old girls is not only normal for some men, it's BIOLOGICAL."<br /><br />Well, I would say that it was normal and biological at some time, oh, when our lifespan was 45. Due to the wonders of steroid aided beef and genetically modified foods, it is becoming normal again, but only because 14 year olds are looking like 19 year olds did, when I was 14. <br /><br />A grown man hitting on any 8th grader I grew up with would have been a little gross. Even if he was 19 he would have been ridiculed for it.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53026680117647790022012-06-25T18:50:13.371-07:002012-06-25T18:50:13.371-07:00"also want to point out that the stereotype o..."also want to point out that the stereotype of a pedophile is of a creepy old man chasing underage GIRLS. i can't think of a single instance in which their stereotypical portrayal was framed as picking up underage boys, until the michael jackson case."<br /><br />Are you feeling OK, Jody?<br /><br /><br />"the media worked overtime to avoid calling him gay, and turned the discussion of his inappropriate sexual behavior into a discussion of pedophilia instead of a discussion of homosexuality."<br /><br />Well I'm not sociologist, but that may have something to do with HOMOSEXUALITY NOT BEING A JAILABLE OFFENSE IN 21ST CENTURY AMERICA.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5540191449289624662012-06-25T18:44:14.217-07:002012-06-25T18:44:14.217-07:00"No, it's a lame comment. I suppose it se..."No, it's a lame comment. I suppose it seems "powerful" to people - like you - who are not very bright, or who have the perpetually heightened sense of grievance so common to blacks."<br /><br />C'Mon Grasshopper, why are you picking on me? I didn't write the original comment.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84658152820569606052012-06-25T18:24:49.228-07:002012-06-25T18:24:49.228-07:00vinteuil - Yes, I've heard that theory of hush...vinteuil - Yes, I've heard that theory of hushing up gay sexuality being the real cause of the problem sexuality.<br /><br />I haven't seen any evidence for it.<br /><br />Here's the major confounding factor: people who are hiding sexually criminal behavior are not otherwise "just like everyone else, except for that one thing." They have a much wider range of sexual experiences - fetishes, paraphilias, varieties of partners. To conclude from this that they are "really" closeted gays who have been warped thereby is mere confirmation bias.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22011187673152723002012-06-25T16:56:08.483-07:002012-06-25T16:56:08.483-07:00i also want to point out that the stereotype of a ...i also want to point out that the stereotype of a pedophile is of a creepy old man chasing underage GIRLS. i can't think of a single instance in which their stereotypical portrayal was framed as picking up underage boys, until the michael jackson case. the media worked overtime to avoid calling him gay, and turned the discussion of his inappropriate sexual behavior into a discussion of pedophilia instead of a discussion of homosexuality.<br /><br />as with jerry sandusky, i note michael jackson the homosexual had no biological children, despite being married to a woman.<br /><br />on the internet there is a meme called pedobear. in years of seeing goofy pedobear jokes, i have NEVER seen him employed in the act of picking up 14 year old BOYS. it's ALWAYS 14 year old GIRLS.<br /><br />on the unedited, uncensored part of the internet, where the enemies of america are not monitoring your comments, 99% of people are openly, and correctly, revolted by the idea of adult men picking up 14 year old BOYS for sex, and they say so. the insults fly fast and are merciless. nobody would post a meme of a man in a bear suit picking up boys for sex and expect people to have a laugh about it. disgust is the automatic, overwhelming reaction.<br /><br />attraction to youthful 14 year old girls is not only normal for some men, it's BIOLOGICAL. that's why females hit puberty first, before males. so they are ready for older males to impregnate them. tens of thousands of years of human evolution have shaped this system. the other "system", of gay homosexual men going after boys, is not ambiguous in it's nature. it is certainly deviant and not normal.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74321495103647489192012-06-25T16:35:26.660-07:002012-06-25T16:35:26.660-07:00I consider people like Sadunsky to be essentially ...<i>I consider people like Sadunsky to be essentially heteros with a twist (i.e. they desire prepubescent boys instead of females).</i><br /><br />You're right, you don't deserve snark. You deserve candor: you're fucking nuts.Svigorhttp://svigor.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18941610228767184572012-06-25T16:03:20.451-07:002012-06-25T16:03:20.451-07:00Wouldn't people agree that true pedophilia -- ...<i>Wouldn't people agree that true pedophilia -- attraction to pre-pubescent kids -- is a separate sexuality that is neither gay nor straight, as such are defined with reference to adult objects of attraction?</i> <br /><br /><br />If that were the case the I'd expect that the pedophiles in question would be indifferent to the sex of their victims. A child is a child, right? And yet, that's not the way it works.<br /><br /><br /><i>I mean, there are a certainly males out there who molest young girls; surely the straight people here would not want to say that they were 'straight like us' or driven by a normal straight sexuality.</i> <br /><br /><br />That's a peculiar line of argument - "let's all of us get together and define words so as to make us feel good about ourselves".<br /><br />Male child molesters who exclusively target female children are drive by a heterosexual impulse. A warped and distorted heterosexual impulse, but still a heterosexual impulse.<br /><br />Male homosexuals are very reluctant to say the same thing about themselves because they know that the percentage of male homosexual child molesters is so much greater than that for straights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68548334094115682622012-06-25T15:53:53.407-07:002012-06-25T15:53:53.407-07:00"Gay" in conventional usage denotes a co...<i>"Gay" in conventional usage denotes a conventional male homosexual.</i><br /> <br /><br />What precisely is a "conventional" male homosexual? <br /><br /><br /><i>You'd never find Sandunky in a gay bar, a gay bathhouse, reading gay web sites, watching gay movies, or even associating with self-identified gays.</i> <br /><br /><br />Do you have a source for any of these claims? I know a good number of homosexual men who do not frequent gay bathouses and bars. Are you going to tell me that they are homosexual but not "gay"? <br /><br /><br /><i>The only thing that connects Sandusky (and others pedos like him) with gay men is the fact of his homosexuality.</i> <br /><br /><br />You're a laff riot! Apart from that trivial "homosexual" thing, Sandusky and "gay" men have nothing whatsoever in common!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7783545259298257022012-06-25T14:37:12.008-07:002012-06-25T14:37:12.008-07:00Which would have been good, since Obama obviously ...<i>Which would have been good, since Obama obviously wrote Dreams. Endorsing whacked-out conspiracy theories like birtherism and the idea that Obama is a front for some kind of Bill Ayers conspiracy just makes conservatives look like fools.</i> <br /><br />Where was Komment Kontrol on this post?<br /><br />Even Steve himself knows that Ayers wrote <i>Dreams</i>.<br /><br />It's not even debatable any more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89598572998364297832012-06-25T14:32:14.719-07:002012-06-25T14:32:14.719-07:00"Genuine pedophiles like sandunsky simply don..."Genuine pedophiles like sandunsky simply don't fit the "gay" pattern and if you look around you'll see that time and time again."<br /><br />seems like we're starting to play word gymnastics now. he's not "gay", he's "homosexual". well, at least somebody can admit that.<br /><br />despite lots of evidence that there are plenty of gay men who are in the closet, married to women, and who put their penises up other male's bums in private. which is EXACTLY, EXACTLY how jerry sandusky lead his life for, apparently, 2 decades at least...sandusky is "not gay".<br /><br />in reality jerry sandusky fits the pattern of an in the closet homosexual to a T. if he just plain liked 12 year olds, he would have eventually picked a girl by random chance. he never picked a girl, not once, not ever. and now even one of his adopted sons claims sandusky went after him.<br /><br />"But wait a minute, they were not 22 year old studs at the gay bar." SO WHAT. were they the same gender as sandusky or not, every single time? they were, case closed, game over, goodbye.<br /><br />again i ask, has he ever even had sex with his wife? where are his biological children?jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46800190003354937022012-06-25T14:30:10.187-07:002012-06-25T14:30:10.187-07:00I consider people like Sadunsky to be essentially ...<i> I consider people like Sadunsky to be essentially heteros with a twist (i.e. they desire prepubescent boys instead of females). That's why I sympathise with gay men who don't want to be identified with them. </i><br /><br />Wouldn't people agree that true pedophilia -- attraction to pre-pubescent kids -- is a separate sexuality that is neither gay nor straight, as such are defined with reference to adult objects of attraction? I mean, there are a certainly males out there who molest young girls; surely the straight people here would not want to say that they were 'straight like us' or driven by a normal straight sexuality.<br /><br />Attraction to post-pubescent but under the legal age of consent (say, 17, whatever) is another matter...moral disapproval but the purely physical attraction is more similar to adult attraction.MQnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-115490025917434622012-06-25T13:18:32.649-07:002012-06-25T13:18:32.649-07:00@anon 10:40 & 10:45 p.m.:
Were you by any cha...@anon 10:40 & 10:45 p.m.:<br /><br />Were you by any chance a little tired, last night? A bit emotional?<br /><br />But yeah - I do think that gay guys who are *in* the closet tend to be quite a bit more messed up, and cause a lot more trouble, than those who are *out*.<br /><br />Do you disagree?vinteuilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34493082576429097532012-06-25T12:54:53.952-07:002012-06-25T12:54:53.952-07:00"Contrary to some of the posters here, it'..."Contrary to some of the posters here, it's an open question whether paedophiles are gay."<br /><br />perhaps the dumbest post ever made on isteve, and that's saying a lot.<br /><br />sandusky was deliberately sticking his penor up 12 year old BOYS bums, every time, but it's an "open question" whether of not he's gay? he didn't select a girl ONE SINGLE TIME.<br /><br />lots of gay men get married to women. some even had kids. how does this change the fact that they're raging homos? if putting your penis up boys bums over and over is not the standard of evidence required to demonstrate homosexuality i'm not sure what is. it's like the difference between serial killers who kill mostly at random versus killers who target a specific victim. and the specific victim here is EXTREMELY CLEAR.<br /><br />by the way, i note that jerry sandusky has no biological children. but 6 adopted children. has he ever even had sex with his wife? obviously one, or both of them, may be infertile. but that's still a potentially glaring sign of homosexuality. the guy who coaches football players never wanted to make a little baby sandusky to grow up to be his own football player son?<br /><br />with gays, we're getting to the point where the police already find themselves with respect to africans. having video evidence on africans yelling and swearing racial insults at the people they are beating, then saying, whoa there, not any evidence this was racially motivated.jodynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7283348088539329412012-06-25T11:43:19.038-07:002012-06-25T11:43:19.038-07:00Hell, if it weren't for Jack Cashill and the A...<i> Hell, if it weren't for Jack Cashill and the American Thinker, we would never have learned that Bill Ayers wrote Dreams. </i><br /><br />Which would have been good, since Obama obviously wrote Dreams. Endorsing whacked-out conspiracy theories like birtherism and the idea that Obama is a front for some kind of Bill Ayers conspiracy just makes conservatives look like fools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59469168130317451102012-06-25T10:37:01.696-07:002012-06-25T10:37:01.696-07:00Gay men don't have much trouble indentifying g...<i>Gay men don't have much trouble indentifying gay boys (or "pre-gay" boys, if you prefer)--- actually, straight people don't have much trouble either. </i> <br /><br /><br />People - whether gay or straight - have considerable difficulty in identifying whether other people are gay or straight.<br /><br />That goes double or triple for children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42935057433600871902012-06-25T10:29:03.670-07:002012-06-25T10:29:03.670-07:00I consider people like Sadunsky to be essentially ...<i>I consider people like Sadunsky to be essentially heteros with a twist (i.e. they desire prepubescent boys instead of females).</i> <br /><br /><br />Why not just say " I consider homosexuals to be hetros with a twist - that they prefer men to women"?<br /><br />Preferring members of the same sex for sex is what makes a person <i>homosexual</i>. How difficult is this to wrap your head around?<br /><br /><br /><i>IMO Sandunsky is a typical non-gay --but definitely homosexual-- pedo</i> <br /><br /><br />Ground control to Major Tom - the word "gay" is a used as a slang term to mean the same thing as "homosexual". A person cannot be non-gay and definitely homosexual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com