tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7830129559626395058..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Matthew Yglesias Self Parody EditionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84848702916272586672011-07-01T06:55:47.574-07:002011-07-01T06:55:47.574-07:00Sailer wrote: "For example, he (Matt Y) norma...Sailer wrote: "For example, he (Matt Y) normally posts a half-dozen items a week about how They Do It Better in Northern Europe, but today he's worked up over a progressive Dutch proposal for more humane treatment of animals."<br /><br />I can not speak for the other countries in Northen Europe, but I live in Sweden and speak perfect Swedish.<br /><br />Steve - if any of his writings concern Sweden, and you find them difficult to beleive, I can do some fact-checking.<br /><br />Please respond here.Swordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77223535955241210372011-06-30T14:06:41.415-07:002011-06-30T14:06:41.415-07:00Simon in London said...
Didn't the gentile F...Simon in London said... <br /><br />Didn't the gentile French ship Jews out to Nazi death camps?<br /><br />***<br /><br />Nope, it's a sensitive subject even now, but while the Vichy State certainly was not very keen on jews, with discriminatory laws, it had no appetite for shipping them to death camps; to the best of my (relatively fuzzy, admittedly) recollations, until the "National State" got overrun in 1942 and the new collaboration gvt became just a german auxiliary, Vichy had the good taste of responding to german demands by shipping out... foreign jews and apatrids refugees, french nationals actually being left aside, much to the german irritation.<br />(Btw, same thing for executed hostages, the ones given up by the french gvt, at least before 1942, often were communists who had been arrested prior to the defeat, while they were still... german collaborators).<br /><br />Actually, France had the second- best 'survival' rate (ca. 50%) for its jewish community, among all german-occupied countries, during WWII, the only 'safer' one being IIRC Albania (but with a much smaller jewish population, though I think it might had actually increased by the end of the war, due to jewish refugees). Italy was not a "bad" place for jews neither, italian fascists having no real grudge against the local jewish community, at least, until the germans took a more direct approach.<br />Worst were I think the "New Europe" overall, and serbia (with something like a zero perczent survival rate).<br /><br />If you care about such things, France has/had the most (Israeli-awarded) "Justs", IE french people on the street who shelterd jews on their own initiative.<br /><br />The "french-as-natural-born-antisemites, Vichy-as-the-quintessial-expression-of-the-french-national-soul" bit is a canard, and part of a revisionnist take on WWII, pushed notably by a clique of post-60's french thinkers (apply scare quotes as needed) of jewish background, most notably the loathable bernard-henry lévy (AKA dominique strauss-khan best buddy) and his infamous "french ideology", which is all about how "moldy" and despisable France is.<br />This was what the 80's and early 90's were all about.<br /><br />But, then again, you're - I think - a brit, so, you couldn't let an occasion of french-bashing go to waste, could you?Kevinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37796454958289840922011-06-30T07:14:08.415-07:002011-06-30T07:14:08.415-07:00Do you think they are meant to spend four hours co...<i>Do you think they are meant to spend four hours commuting everyday? That is the result of not allowing more housing near employment centers.</i><br /><br />Taller buildings are not the solution. You can make your buildings as tall as you want but as long as they're surrounded with lower population density suburbs, people will move to them. We need more telecommuting and more employers disbursed among the suburbs, not to make filthy, crowded cities even more filthy and crowded.<br /><br />I sometimes wonder if there's an evo-psych explanation for childless SWPLs like Yglesias. They hope to use immigration rather than reproduction to replicate their gnostic, liberal values. Boy are they in for a surprise.The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51278453548156614122011-06-30T07:07:12.207-07:002011-06-30T07:07:12.207-07:00That is the result of not allowing more housing ne...<i> That is the result of not allowing more housing near employment centers.</i><br /><br />Said the Section 8 housing enthusiast.Dvid Davenportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11794155101481907572011-06-29T23:06:29.329-07:002011-06-29T23:06:29.329-07:00It's not imprinting, it is simply good taste. ...It's not imprinting, it is simply good taste. What person in their right mind would not prefer Manhattan to provincial, incestuous humid, racially volatile DC?<br /><br />D.C. has to be the most boring relatively large city I have ever visited. The weather in summer is ridiculously hot and humid and the working class is all big government lazy, plus is there anywhere to eat in the city? Power would be the only reason to live there, I couldn't imagine what it must have been like before the invention of air conditioning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11837348520500976072011-06-29T15:18:56.735-07:002011-06-29T15:18:56.735-07:00Here it is: Yglesias's prescription for the re...Here it is: Yglesias's prescription for the rebirth of Detroit:<br /><br />http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2010/06/21/197634/the-regrettably-impossible-alternative-to-shrinking-detroit/<br /><br />Absolute insanity.Londonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26068184952737395402011-06-29T14:46:05.055-07:002011-06-29T14:46:05.055-07:00Christian Right has long called for more religion ...<i>Christian Right has long called for more religion in public schools and government--like displaying Ten Commandments outside the courts.</i><br /><br />IOW, more religion means more of the <i>right</i> religion, which means more of <i>my</i> religion.<br />And of course all Christians are deep in their hearts "my kind" or Christian. <br /><br />That just shows the insular ignorance of the Christian Right whose world consists only of Protestants, Catholics, and Ashkenazim.<br /><br />In a way, it is a good thing there is immigration (and individualism) just to show these fools there are such things as Muslims, Sephardic Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, pagans, animists, etc. (BTW, the real argument is over the amount of immigration and what types of immigrants are most useful, not the existence of immigration iself.)<br /><br />Similarly, there is more to Christianity than the little home town Baptist church. How many American Christian Rightists have even met - or heard of - Nestorians, Dukhobors, Maronites, and the like?<br /><br /><i>The very people who've been saying we need CHRISTIAN PRAYER IN SCHOOL are now throwing hissy fits about Muslim programs in schools.</i> <br /><br />The very people who say we (the Victorian we) need Christian prayer in school should be starting their own Christian schools. And in many cases, they and their Muslim equivalents are doing just that rather than clinging to the delusion of a non-existent "public".<br /><br /><i>So, how is this game being played?</i><br /><br />First of all there is the outdated belief that the creaking anachronism of the tax-supported 19th-century Prussian factory school is the only way to get the little sprogs educated.<br /><br />Besides, "educate the masses" is mostly a leftist cause. Why can't the masses educate themselves?<br /><br /><i>PS. I believe in separation of church and state, but I would also say certain secular dogmas should be treated like religions</i><br /><br />How about separation of school and state?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49506420717483410262011-06-29T14:28:21.491-07:002011-06-29T14:28:21.491-07:00"All that said, the Jews I know - the Jew in ...<i>"All that said, the Jews I know - the Jew in the street - are much less in favor of open borders than are the "elites"."<br /><br />But they don't care about the issue enough to stop giving money to Jewish organizations that the Jewish elites control, or to stop voting for the politicians that the Jewish elites promote. So it really doesn't matter what the alleged "Jew on the street" may or may not think about open borders.</i><br /><br />Change "Jews" to "Americans". Or even "Westerners".<br /><br /><i>The Jewish elites get all of the little Jews into a sweat in fear over the Goyim rising up in the middle of the night with torches and pitchforks</i><br /><br />I have to say that few Jews are half as afraid of Goyim as you are afraid of Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78924866748096918162011-06-29T14:19:55.672-07:002011-06-29T14:19:55.672-07:00Do you think they are meant to spend four hours co...<i>Do you think they are meant to spend four hours commuting everyday? That is the result of not allowing more housing near employment centers.</i><br /><br />No, that is the result of Shelley v. Kraemer and subsequent court rulings and legislation.<br /><br />And, I've never heard of any prohobotions on the building of housing near employment centers.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3911613016185999752011-06-29T13:31:23.568-07:002011-06-29T13:31:23.568-07:00"All that said, the Jews I know - the Jew in ...<i>"All that said, the Jews I know - the Jew in the street - are much less in favor of open borders than are the "elites"."</i><br /><br />But they don't care about the issue enough to stop giving money to Jewish organizations that the Jewish elites control, or to stop voting for the politicians that the Jewish elites promote. So it really doesn't matter what the alleged "Jew on the street" may or may not think about open borders. <br /><br />It's like those Jews who mock "the Jewish conspiracy theory" (it's not a conspiracy: it's group psychology; but then they refuse to really read Kevin MacDonald) by saying "why if this conspiracy theory exists, why aren't I rich? Why aren't THEY giving me money?"<br /><br />Listen, dummy: THEY don't pay you. You pay THEM. That's how the Jewish group evolutionary psychology strategy works: the Jewish elites get all of the little Jews into a sweat in fear over the Goyim rising up in the middle of the night with torches and pitchforks, and then the little Jews write that big check to the ADL, the SPLC, etc and vote the straight left-wing Democratic Party ticket. That's how it works. They don't care if some little Jews are ambivalent about open borders or not. The Jewish elites know how to control their tribe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80039294817928886322011-06-29T13:22:19.612-07:002011-06-29T13:22:19.612-07:00our political culture is hardly unaffected by bigo...<i>our political culture is hardly unaffected by bigotry or oft-violent nationalism</i><br /><br />Yes. In fact, the "culture" is absolutely riven with the aforementioned plagues. So much so, in order to reduce my stress (see Mr Sailer's earlier post) I had to stop paying attention to all the "oft-violent nationalism" I was bombarded with every day.ehnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2404116546395329182011-06-29T13:03:19.874-07:002011-06-29T13:03:19.874-07:00Yglesias seems like a very earnest young man who h...Yglesias seems like a very earnest young man who has a great deal to say, none of which is interesting or even that strongly felt (apart from advocating high-density cities - the cure for all ills!). What his army of sycophants sees in him is a mystery to me. Perhaps a few more run-ins with the vibrant youths of DC will knock some sense into his high-density head.<br /><br />As for his Eurocidal tendencies - in his defence I will say that they're probably not *quite* as viscerally felt as they are by many of the tribe - he's no Ignatiev or Wise - but they're clearly still there. It's an atavistic thing.Londonernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74180186799762646542011-06-29T12:12:58.831-07:002011-06-29T12:12:58.831-07:00And a Jewish businessman I know was astonished tha...<i>And a Jewish businessman I know was astonished that glaciers exist up on mountains,</i><br />Jews tend to be remarkably ignorant of anything nature related- they grow up in cultures completely absent of any reverence for nature- if they can turn it to their political advantage - like the seirra club and immigration, sure, but otherwise, they have low spatial intelligence.<br /><br />I have also personally seen jewish friends remarkably distort rural life - i went to a rural town with one jewish friend (in the north east) and he came back to the city we live in and his description had little or nothing to do with the reality of there (everyone was blond and blue eyed, the police had southern ! accents, etc)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86676522756627430212011-06-29T11:27:26.708-07:002011-06-29T11:27:26.708-07:00anon:
"The hatred and the physical attacks ar...anon:<br />"The hatred and the physical attacks are far,far worse than anything gentile French ever perpetrated..."<br /><br />Didn't the gentile French ship Jews out to Nazi death camps?Simon in Londonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56892938620452112692011-06-29T11:25:01.293-07:002011-06-29T11:25:01.293-07:00anti-gnostic said:
"People aren't meant t...anti-gnostic said:<br />"People aren't meant to live in steel-glass anthills."<br /><br />Do you think they are meant to spend four hours commuting everyday? That is the result of not allowing more housing near employment centers.Mercernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74669035041447100222011-06-29T11:18:15.638-07:002011-06-29T11:18:15.638-07:00"Yglesias would happily see Israel nuked out ..."Yglesias would happily see Israel nuked out of existence and Jews in the US sent to prison camps in the name of 'diversity.'"<br />What? Do you honestly believe that Yglesias would happily see Jews be sent to prison camps? <br /><br />Always fun to se what lies people cook up so they can stay ignorant and remain in their conformistic bubble.Howard Hughesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37814078440760631472011-06-29T09:30:13.651-07:002011-06-29T09:30:13.651-07:00"The hatred and the physical attacks are far,..."<i>The hatred and the physical attacks are far,far worse than anything gentile French ever perpetrated, and it's only set to get worse as muslims come to dominate French demographics.</i>"<br /><br />Who cares? Really. When it gets bad enough they'll move somewhere else and add one more tale to their never-ending litany of woe.<br /><br />Meanwhile France and the French people will cease to exist. Likewise every other White country.Tanstaaflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10809764986911255031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58418504711763462242011-06-29T09:26:05.217-07:002011-06-29T09:26:05.217-07:00I am pretty sure that if you took a sample of whit...<i>I am pretty sure that if you took a sample of white gentiles that was averaged to an IQ of 115, and subtracted out all practicing Christians, their voting patterns would be no different from Jews.</i> <br /><br />Leaving aside the fact that there is no evidence for an average Jewish IQ of 115, that still makes no sense. Why would higher IQ lead inevitably to more stupid voting behavior?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82513935895332551992011-06-29T09:03:52.891-07:002011-06-29T09:03:52.891-07:00I think Yglesias writings on immigration are laugh...<i>I think Yglesias writings on immigration are laughable but agree with him about allowing taller buildings to be built.</i><br /><br />No thanks. Our energy-sucking, heavy-footprint, high-maintenance, one-to-two-thirds-empty buildings are quite tall enough. <br /><br />The obsession with population density exhibited by a small cohort of SWPL yupsters, gays in particular, is really bizarre. Dick Orlando Florida or whatever his name is is all over this sort of thing too. People aren't meant to live in steel-glass anthills.The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52305426538435993412011-06-29T08:53:43.631-07:002011-06-29T08:53:43.631-07:00I don't think Yglesias is having a proxy conve...I don't think Yglesias is having a proxy conversation with you, Steve. He comments on the news just like you do. <br /><br />Or, maybe you're right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-825510791010068342011-06-29T08:40:31.121-07:002011-06-29T08:40:31.121-07:00I've been reading The Rise of David Levinski, ...I've been reading The Rise of David Levinski, a surprisingly good early 20th century novel by Abraham Cahan about the Jewish immigrant experience in America. The hero, David Levinski,begins as an ordinary factory workes but then gradually becomes highly successful businessman in the garment trade. Here is an interesting quote that expresses his changing attitudes as he rises in class:<br /><br />"I became conscious of a sneaking feeling of gratitude to the socialist editor for printing the attack on me. For, behold! the same organ assailed the Vanderbilts, the Goulds, the Rothschilds, and „by calling me "a fleecer of labor" it placed me in their class. I felt in good company. I felt, too, that while I there were people by whom 'fleecers' were cursed, there were many others who held them in high esteem, and that even those who cursed them had a secret envy for them, hoping some day to be fleecers of labor like them. . . A working-man, and every one else who was poor, was an object of contempt to me—a misfit, a weakling, a failure, one of the ruck."Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45612374136006944212011-06-29T08:19:47.289-07:002011-06-29T08:19:47.289-07:00Daybreaker said...
Luke Lea: "Whose side are...Daybreaker said...<br /><br />Luke Lea: "Whose side are Ashkenazi Americans on?"<br /><br />The same side as their ancestors.<br /><br />"They're amazingly successful, active, brilliant, energetic people. And they are at an all-time high.<br /><br />There's no reason for them to stop.<br /><br />And even less reason for them to redefine their existence as being about "being on the side of" other people.<br /><br />Especially people who are on the way down and out, as White non-Jewish Americans are.<br /><br />Especially people who are going down, and against whom they have historic grievances, and from whom they have reason to fear harm."<br /><br />*******<br /><br />I would like to challenge that last sentence: historically anti-Semitism, has been conspicuously absent among the working-class populations of England, Scotland, and Ireland, both in this country and in Europe. This is true even of Germans Americans, who immigrated in the middle of the 19th century. Polish Americans have not been conspicuously anti-Semitic either to my knowledge -- this despite the fact that the Polish nobility "used" their Jewish populations for centuries as instruments of exploitation: as peasant overseers, tax collectors, lone sharks, monopoly managers (mills, saloons), etc.. The only group among whom anti-Semitism was a significant factor were 19th and early 20th century Anglo-Saxon elites, who were in direct competition with Ashkenazi Americans whom they had encouraged to immigrate to America (2.5 million in all) and whom they finally opened up the Ivy League for after WWII and gave them free access to the top rungs of our society.<br /><br />I would like to address my remarks to the heads of the major Jewish organizations in America: historically Jews were to be a light unto the nations and in many, many ways they have been. Think of the civil rights movement, or the part they played in the organization of working-class Americans in the first half of the 20th century. But more recently we have seen the phenomenon of Ashekenazi alienation from working-class Americans, a largely elite phenomenon no doubt, largely a consequence of their very success at the apex of society. Symptomatic of this alienation was the movie Borat and the enthusiastic reviews and comments it received in the pages of the NYT. Abe Foxman was right about that and should have stuck to his guns.<br /><br />The Jews have always been a politically weak people. Their God is a God of the weak. And yet they are intellectually, culturally, legally, and economically a very powerful people. So let me put this question to the presidents of the major Jewish organizations in America, some of whom I hope will read these comments:<br /><br />Who is going to stick up for the American people? Let's set aside blame for the disastrous immigration and trade policies of the last 20 years. What is past is past. But looking forward, what group has the power as well as the motive to give voice to the voiceless? <br /><br />You want American popular support for Israel, you want access to American shores in case Israel should fail, you want popular support for Jewish Americans in Jewish society, just like I would if I were in your shoes. .I sympathize completely. That said, consider these two questions privately and among yourselves: Is what is good for America good for the Jews? Is what is good for the Jews good for America?Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90052580717029023202011-06-29T08:03:15.248-07:002011-06-29T08:03:15.248-07:00"Anonymous said...
""It (mildly) a..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />""It (mildly) amazes me that people continue to assume that Jews are too dumb to notice that what they are doing is not in their best interests (though it brings them vast success and wealth).""<br /><br />What's The Matter With Manhattan?"<br /><br />Well said!Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6768209371699246722011-06-29T07:44:14.539-07:002011-06-29T07:44:14.539-07:00"Oh and you'll notice that while there ar...<i>"Oh and you'll notice that while there aren't that many Italians in public life"</i><br /><br />Are you kidding? There are LOTS of Italians in public life. In certain parts of the North-East a last name ending in a vowel is a prerequisite for a political career. Most of these pols are libs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45734353075819705692011-06-29T07:41:54.937-07:002011-06-29T07:41:54.937-07:00"The common denominator with the open borders...<i>"The common denominator with the open borders elites isn't being Jewish -- Non-Jews like Steve Case shill for the same policies. The common denominator is that they are elites."<br /><br />That's sort of true (not entirely).<br /><br />But why does that elite exist, instead of some other possible elite?<br /></i><br /><br />It's a grand American tradition since the early 19th century. Yes, this divide -- between the pro-open borders elites and the restrictionist commoners -- goes back to that halcyon times when there were no Jews and the WASPs controlled everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com