tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post78336409114133109..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Open comment thread on Palin's speechUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-43485910428336999452008-09-06T18:09:00.000-07:002008-09-06T18:09:00.000-07:00Outstanding speech, and the teleprompter was on th...Outstanding speech, and the teleprompter was on the fritz. Sorry lobotomised Tommy and anonymousies. The lady is genuine in a way that Obama-messiah never will be.<BR/><BR/>Steve, you have really come across as totally clueless in this one particular situation. You might consider taking a long vacation or something to help with perspective. ;-)al finhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13739269791915017382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46289044274619783282008-09-05T22:33:00.000-07:002008-09-05T22:33:00.000-07:00As a slight aside (you did say it was an open thre...As a slight aside (you did say it was an open thread), I was quite surprised to see this from the LA Times blog: Apparently, several delegates attempted to vote for Ron Paul, but those votes were "not heard." <BR/><BR/> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/09/ron-paul-suppor.html<BR/><BR/>Anyone heard more about this, or about the apparently pretty scary police-state-looking measures in place for both parties' conventions? (Hey, what says "democracy" more than a line of thousands cops in riot gear barking orders at people? Unless it's pre-emptively arresting a few annoying protesters?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1608995036049979982008-09-05T22:25:00.000-07:002008-09-05T22:25:00.000-07:00halfbreed:The way I grew up, "white trash" was how...halfbreed:<BR/><BR/>The way I grew up, "white trash" was how my parents indicated that those folks over there were Not Like Us. To a first approximation, this was the starting (rebuttable) assumption for blacks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8838996611669275762008-09-05T22:19:00.000-07:002008-09-05T22:19:00.000-07:00This is a weird experience. I heard some of Sarah...This is a weird experience. I heard some of Sarah Palin's speech on the radio and read the full transcript. I also heard almost all of Obama's speech. In both cases, their fans were talking about what an amazing, masterful speech it was, while I kind of came away thinking "yeah, it was a politician's speech, nothing all that special." <BR/><BR/>To the extent that Sarah Palin is mainly able to appeal to the Republican base, McCain/Palin have a hell of a hard path ahead of them, because they're not supposed to be needing to appeal to the base at this point. To the extent that she's able to appeal to swing voters in the few states that are really critical, she could change the election outcome. <BR/><BR/>I'm pretty doubtful of this, though perhaps that's my own wishful thinking. I suspect that the whole Palin explosion has gotten a lot of attention and enthusiasm, but much of that will die out over the next couple months. She may have been vetted by the McCain campaign (I've heard rather mixed claims about that), but it's quite possible there are landmines nobody found out about yet, and her running for VP makes it likely that people will be digging a lot harder than they ever did when she was running for governor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55317720313543148672008-09-05T16:09:00.000-07:002008-09-05T16:09:00.000-07:00Scott when I looked over those numbers I did a dou...Scott when I looked over those numbers I did a double take because I assumed you were talking about an HBCU or something. <BR/><BR/>Nah, turns out only about 30% of Idaho U (85% white) students who even TAKE the SAT score around 1200 (College board has only 54% taking the SAT with only the top quartile scoring 1200). <BR/><BR/>Given that a 1200 SAT corresponds to roughly 80th percentile, thats not even a standard deviation above the mean. I would say the mean of SAT takers is around 105, but since many blacks and hispanics take the test I'm sure L. Vorenus would have some sharp words to say with me if I claimed that. We'll assume 100.<BR/><BR/>It took Sarah about 5 and half years to graduate with a degree in journalism, I think its pretty safe to say Sarah wasn't in the top third or quarter of students who an IQ of 115 or above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24609130226120792832008-09-05T09:43:00.000-07:002008-09-05T09:43:00.000-07:00http://tinyurl.com/6qt3vvST. PAUL, Minn. | Sarah P...http://tinyurl.com/6qt3vv<BR/>ST. PAUL, Minn. | Sarah Palin displays an Israeli flag in her governor's office in Juneau, even though she has never been to the country, and attends Protestant evangelical churches that consider the preservation of the state of Israel a biblical imperative. <BR/><BR/>Her faith makes her a favorite with the staunchly pro-Israel neoconservative elements in the Republican Party. <BR/><BR/>But other Republicans may be concerned that a John McCain-Sarah Palin administration will disregard the caution of former President George H.W. Bush and some of his top advisers and continue the tilt toward Israel. <BR/><BR/>Most Republicans and conservatives outside Alaska know little about Mrs. Palin's foreign policy views - on Israel or anything else. <BR/><BR/>But Tucker Eskew, who holds the title of counselor to Mrs. Palin in the McCain-Palin campaign, left no doubt where she stands. <BR/><BR/>"She would describe herself as a strong supporter of Israel's, with an understanding of Israel's fear of an Iran in possession of nuclear weapons," Mr. Eskew told The Washington Times. <BR/><BR/>In June, Mrs. Palin told ministry students at her former church that in going to war with Iraq, the United States is "on a task that is from God," the Associated Press reported.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00740668904926516649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-677547172473743212008-09-05T08:25:00.000-07:002008-09-05T08:25:00.000-07:00Though it's been lots of fun, gotta agree with gru...Though it's been lots of fun, gotta agree with grumpy (VFR/Auster):<BR/><BR/>"And for all you Sarah Palin fans out there, who see her as such a wonderful breath of fresh air and great representative of the "real" America, please understand that your gal Palin will be using her formidable political gifts, including her charisma, her striking female good looks, and her self-advertised pit bull aggressiveness, to help her boss legalize all illegal aliens in the U.S. Is that what you really want?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55239343919549518662008-09-05T08:22:00.000-07:002008-09-05T08:22:00.000-07:00One point on the Palin selection is that, besides ...One point on the Palin selection is that, besides being an oustanding choice for immediate political advantage, it will ensure that the Rovian network (Schmidt, Rove, and whoever) will continue to exercise power in the party. It's never been a better time to be repulican VP, heir apparent to the throne. Romney would have had his own ideas and team; Palin will have about Bush's level of deference to the advisors. 4 years as VP may be thin experience, but she'll be certain to become the consensus Presidential nominee if McCain is elected, with the key insider connection and an ability to turn out regular republicans and democrat leaning women. Unfotunately for the democrats, fine executive minds are not attracted to their values. Can the Rove faction give us 12 more years of Republican presidents (and 15% capital gains taxes!)?<BR/><BR/>The Palin phenomenon may also excite a female arms race between the parties, but Clinton will not be an effective opponent at 67. <BR/>The dems may have to cast about for, ugh, Janet Napolitano or some such.<BR/><BR/>Also, it simply isn't possible for hundreds of millions of dollars to flow in and out of the Obama campaign without "irregularities", ethical problems, etc. The rogues gallery of players and characters in the party is simply too large.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29956296299147796672008-09-05T07:36:00.000-07:002008-09-05T07:36:00.000-07:00One thing about the "Bridge to Nowhere" in Ketchik...One thing about the "Bridge to Nowhere" in Ketchikan. Opponents characterized it as a big boondoggle, as it was to link Ketchikan with Gravina island, which only has about 100 inhabitants. What they didn't mention is that Gravina island is the location of Ketchican's airport - which makes the desire of people in Ketchican for a bridge a little more understandable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12910305768948898732008-09-04T20:54:00.000-07:002008-09-04T20:54:00.000-07:00I think that she *is* probably going to end up wit...<I>I think that she *is* probably going to end up with neocon foreign policy views, but you know what -- I don't care how many countries we need to invade for Greater Israel so long as the borders are secured. Damn, if the Forward offered a deal like that -- you know, a two state solution with Mexico where the US and Mexico actually remain *two separate states* -- but it meant that I'd have to sign up to bomb Iran, it'd probably be worth it!</I><BR/><BR/>LOL!<BR/><BR/>Right on- right on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54411721269235133452008-09-04T20:14:00.000-07:002008-09-04T20:14:00.000-07:00McCain's ho hum speech tonight made me miss Palin....McCain's ho hum speech tonight made me miss Palin. At least the RNC organizers know enough to have Heart's "Barracuda' piping over the speakers right after it. They know where everyone's interest lies. <BR/><BR/>Heart, by the way, were two feisty Anglo sisters from the Pacific Northwest, and as such especially appropriate to be used in support of this ticket (even though they are almost surely lefties themselves).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6609592322826607132008-09-04T19:42:00.000-07:002008-09-04T19:42:00.000-07:00I am worried that she is a stealth Libertarian. S...I am worried that she is a stealth Libertarian. She talks a good game with Iraq and all, but I'm not sure that she really has internalized the need for nation-building in the Middle East. A year ago she said she didn't know enough about Iraq. And her husband was a seccssionist until recently. Plus she smoked dope.<BR/><BR/>So even though she assures us she is a McCain Republican, beware. She is a Libertarian hiding in sheep's cloting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31277933586146951722008-09-04T18:44:00.000-07:002008-09-04T18:44:00.000-07:00c23: "It's kind of sad to see so many evilcons her...c23: "It's kind of sad to see so many evilcons here falling all over themselves to lick Palin's stilleto boot."<BR/><BR/>Please share any pictures you have of Gov. Palin wearing stiletto boots.<BR/><BR/>-Vanilla ThunderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34295635224098089782008-09-04T17:13:00.000-07:002008-09-04T17:13:00.000-07:00Poor people of whatever race are not thought of fa...Poor people of whatever race are not thought of favorably anywhere in the world, but "white trash" has a very specific meaning: white people who act like black people. In the Jim Crow south this meant people like Bob Ewell in "To Kill a Mockingbird". It doesn't really have the same meaning outside of that time and place, but I guess white families people drink, fight, collect welfare and have babies out of wedlock are (statistically) behaving in a manner more typical of blacks than whitesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91623625378147644602008-09-04T16:08:00.000-07:002008-09-04T16:08:00.000-07:00It was a fine and entertaining speech. I haven...It was a fine and entertaining speech. I haven't seen any political oratory, ever, but what she did came pretty close. My Obama-leaning mother-in-law was proclaiming that she'd vote Republican if Palin were at the top of the ticket. I am leaning toward Barr & Root right now, but I would definitely vote Republican if she were at the top.<BR/><BR/>Dems who live in glasses houses have thrown a few regarding her lack of experience. Apparently they have completely forgotten the legislative nobody (completely lacking in executive and business experience) they just nominated.<BR/><BR/>The main risk the Republicans face now is that of her overshadowing McCain ... people wondering what happened to the Senator the whole time. I don't think the Republicans have a chance but if they do, it will be because of their VP nominee. <BR/><BR/>She is connecting to the lower-midde-class more directly than any candidate has in decades. I'll go out on a limb and say, since Reagan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39089752341115478872008-09-04T15:19:00.000-07:002008-09-04T15:19:00.000-07:00I did not watch one moment of the DNC because no o...I did not watch one moment of the DNC because no one speaking held any appeal to me. I did make sure to be home to catch the wondergirl's speech though.<BR/><BR/>I figured that anyone with that resume who had been selected for VP must me the most charismatic woman on the face of the earth. What a disappointment. If this is any indication of her personality she should be named Sarah Palid. She made many references to her PTA soccer mom background, and do you know why? Because that's exactly what she is. She seemed stiff, monotone and all in all, average. Her jokes seemed childish and I guess we can chalk it up to inexperience, but who knows. <BR/><BR/>Mrs. Palin seems like a likeable, hardworking and smart woman, but she kind of reminds me of Danny Alamonte. He seemed dominant as a 14 year old blowing 12 year olds away with 40 mph fastballs, but I don't think he would repeat the same success on the mound against the Red Sox at Yankee Stadium. She makes Obama look like Abe Lincoln (who had roughly the same experience.)<BR/><BR/>"People with ACT scores over 30 have can qualify for Mensa, and nearly 10% of U. of Idaho freshmen could, corresponding to an IQ of about 130."<BR/><BR/>So basically there's a 7% chance she's a genius, a 7% chance she's an idiot and an 86% chance she's someone in the middle, thanks for clearing that up.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86416242057886042272008-09-04T14:35:00.000-07:002008-09-04T14:35:00.000-07:00The more I hear from the religious right, the more...<I>The more I hear from the religious right, the more they alienate me. They're preaching to the choir. If they want to win over any independents they should just shut up.</I><BR/><BR/>Let me guess: you don't have any children, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90673581222039720962008-09-04T13:55:00.000-07:002008-09-04T13:55:00.000-07:00PS -- Why is there no such equivalent expression t...<I>PS -- Why is there no such equivalent expression to "white trash" for the other races?</I><BR/><BR/>Liberal White Supremacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3648789529053378902008-09-04T12:53:00.000-07:002008-09-04T12:53:00.000-07:00Anonymous (ugh, come on--- please people, at least...Anonymous (ugh, come on--- please people, at least choose Name/URL and go with Anonymous64 or AnonymousTX or something) who mentioned Levi being a good looking kid...<BR/><BR/>This is true, I do wonder if he really wanted to be at the Convention and paraded as the fiancee. Or perhaps, just as John Edwards had Fred Baron paying his baby mama, some Republican money guy told him--- do the right thing and you'll be taken care of.<BR/><BR/>Best case scenario, Levi'll get a job in the oil fields and he and his young family live in quiet, happy obscurity. <BR/><BR/>Worst case scenario, marital trainwreck and he and K-Fed get a reality TV show together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77754160361369641072008-09-04T12:04:00.000-07:002008-09-04T12:04:00.000-07:00It was an effective speech, and Gov. Palin is a gr...It was an effective speech, and Gov. Palin is a great speaker. I actually found it entertaining, which is pretty rare for a political speech. <BR/><BR/>It was short on specifics, but convention speeches almost always are. Nevertheless, I doubt that Palin has many seriously informed, thoughtful opinions on issues that don't have much impact on Alaska. Not to say she can't learn and develop her own ideas, but her rather parochial experience does make her susceptible to believing whatever McCain's policy wonks tell her. Then again, as VP, she's pretty much obliged to agree with him, at least in public, so it doesn't really matter unless she ends up as President.<BR/><BR/>Finally, as much as I enjoyed the speech, my curmudgeonly, masculinist side was annoyed by Palin's lengthy focus on her family. Sure, we all want to know about a candidate's family. Sure, hers had come in for a lot of adverse publicity - and, when not adverse, the publicity was often akin to visitors at a zoo looking at some exotic species: "Look! A woman with 5 kids! Look! A woman who didn't abort a Down's fetus! Look a teenage girl getting pregnant AND MARRYING THE FATHER!" <BR/><BR/>All the same, is our society so feminized and so Oprah-fied that being a "hockey mom" with five children - lest we forget, one with "special needs" - is now considered a salient quality for national office? I admire Palin's approach to life and family. I love that her life is a thumb in the eye of the SWPL crowd in a way that they can't publicly fight or even acknowledge. And yet, enough with the touchy-feely crap, already! Let's move on to talking about issues and ideas in a rational way and leave the emotional and family stuff to People magazine. <BR/><BR/>Yeah, I know ... the battle is already lost. I'm just fighting a rearguard action here against the relentless feminization of society and apparently inevitable triumph of emotion over reason and logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27950846335738521952008-09-04T11:45:00.000-07:002008-09-04T11:45:00.000-07:00What's all this chatter from the Elite about havin...What's all this chatter from the Elite about having Palin's speech written by someone else? ALL politicians have their speeches written by someone else, so whey is only a big deal when Palin does? This is mostly coming from the BIG MEDIA.<BR/><BR/>From Yahoo Education on the U. of Idaho:<BR/><BR/>"# Average high school GPA 3.42<BR/># Test scores SAT verbal scores over 500 74%, SAT math scores over 500 74%, ACT scores over 18 89%, SAT verbal scores over 600 32%, SAT math scores over 600 31%, ACT scores over 24 43%, SAT verbal scores over 700 6%, SAT math scores over 700 6%, ACT scores over 30 7%"<BR/><BR/>People with ACT scores over 30 have can qualify for Mensa, and nearly 10% of U. of Idaho freshmen could, corresponding to an IQ of about 130. It's also worth noting that many ACT scores belonging to FROSH at the Ivies are under 30.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1870457505376514002008-09-04T10:25:00.000-07:002008-09-04T10:25:00.000-07:00"Her family was great, photogenic, a "real" family..."Her family was great, photogenic, a "real" family not Yuppie Designer Kids (Obama)."<BR/><BR/>Very poor form to criticize any child. The Obama girls seemed delightful and Obama the man seems to be an impressive character; he is gracious and patient - two qualities in short supply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21703448616202196582008-09-04T10:19:00.000-07:002008-09-04T10:19:00.000-07:00airtommy,"war hero John Kerry?" I can see why you...airtommy,<BR/>"war hero John Kerry?" <BR/><BR/>I can see why you are confused. Many liberals are flummoxed over Kerry's record, including Kerry himself. However, in the interest of all those fans of this "fortunate son" here is how this will now work. <BR/><BR/>On Tuesdays and Thursdays, Kerry is a war criminal and is repentant and ashamed over his activities in Vietnam because he and his men behaved like Genghis Khan. He even threw his medals away away!<BR/><BR/>It is on Monday, Wed. and Friday that he is a war hero who spent Xmas in Cambodia on secret CIA missions and killed piles of VC commies and rescused his soldiers form certain death. <BR/>Go and ask Dana Delaney. He tried to impress her by showing her his amateur war porn.<BR/>Hope this helps!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54083324096880416502008-09-04T09:45:00.000-07:002008-09-04T09:45:00.000-07:00Palin = biggest joke in this election.That speech ...Palin = biggest joke in this election.<BR/><BR/>That speech sounded like something from a junior high school student council meeting. Those jabs at Obama were almost all false and juvenile.<BR/><BR/>But I guess I'm in the minority of people who think this(on isteve).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66762774016362090532008-09-04T09:40:00.000-07:002008-09-04T09:40:00.000-07:00My brother is an independent who leans Democrat. H...My brother is an independent who leans Democrat. He saw Sarah Palin's speech and was absolutely bowled over. McCain/Palin has his vote, at least for now.<BR/><BR/>In the past he's said he's thought he might be a Republican until he talks to me. So I'm not talking to him about politics any further. But that's how her speech played for at least one in-the-middle guy.<BR/><BR/>The key to this race is that if they make fun of Palin for being a "hick" they are making fun of Main Street America. On the other hand, when Palin makes fun of Obama, she's making fun of the type of person Main Street really hates. It's just that nobody has pointed it out to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com