tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post7941971176334264206..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Washington Post review of "Troublesome Inheritance"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36225535827313869582014-05-24T16:25:00.439-07:002014-05-24T16:25:00.439-07:00It's never happened, and it never will.<br /><br />It's never happened, and it never will. ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71624558155877622162014-05-24T16:22:38.166-07:002014-05-24T16:22:38.166-07:00The largest influence on Hitler's racism was a...<i>The largest influence on Hitler's racism was arguably Houston Stewart Chamberlain (1855-1927), whose book The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century went through an astonishing 30 editions in Germany between 1899 and 1944. Chamberlain's conception of the struggle of races (which was basically Hitler's conception) owed absolutely no theoretical debt to Darwin or even to the much-demonized Darwinian Haeckel, but rather chiefly to "Gobineau, Kant, Goethe, and Wagner." </i><br /><br />Disraeli was the father of racialism, yet you omitted him. Disraeli wrote Coningsby 11 years before Chamberlain was even born.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38306081711710751852014-05-24T16:08:03.136-07:002014-05-24T16:08:03.136-07:00"Bonus points if that explanation allows for ...<i>"Bonus points if that explanation allows for humans to be more intelligent than chimpanzees."<br /><br />Well of course humans are more intelligent, look at how much more enriching the human infant's environment is.</i><br /><br />I understand you're lampooning Shulman's claim, but take it further: why aren't my or your doggies as smart as our children? Same household environment, right? ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36079359333434768132014-05-24T11:53:12.189-07:002014-05-24T11:53:12.189-07:00Earlier you mentioned an African American female J...<i>Earlier you mentioned an African American female Janet McDonald, who sadly is deceased. She evidently was brilliant intellectually. Had a demonstrated high IQ as she was a Mensa member. Perhaps not genius but high IQ.<br /><br />Now if 100,000 blacks produce one Janet Mcdonald caliber intellect and 100,000 whites produce 2, who cares? That's what I don't quite get about this IQ theorising. Maybe if you want to debate the relative merits of Benin vs Norway but as a hiring decision what does race have anything to do with the IQ of your hires? Or your spouse? or Neighbor? Those are decisions about one person not a 100,000.</i><br /><br />You don't seem very bright. Maybe that's why you don't get the simple arguments about the ramifications of the AVERAGE PERSON'S intellect and personality on the societies they compose?<br /><br />Maybe that's why you don't get the ramifications of said average person's qualities on the now culturally-dominant idea that whites "broke" blacks and little white babies in swaddling are going to be on the hook for blacks failing to measure up? If libs didn't want this stuff to come out, they shouldn't have blamed whites for black failure. Too late to take it back now.<br /><br />You're like a witness claiming not to know why the court wants to know how the black fellow broke his leg when the case in question is a lawsuit blaming YT for breaking it. I.e., clueless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89054012965147071022014-05-24T11:34:41.839-07:002014-05-24T11:34:41.839-07:00Any discussion of Eugenics among the Goyische is s...Any discussion of Eugenics among the Goyische is shut down faster than a deck chair on Brighton Pier on a rainy day with gale force winds.<br /><br />Eugenics for me but not for thee. <br /><br /><br />If Eugenics had been applied for 100 years or so I think we'd now have a Mars colony.Wright Right and Rightiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81122759521763580662014-05-24T11:30:25.556-07:002014-05-24T11:30:25.556-07:00For whatever reason Eiropean societies appear to h...For whatever reason Eiropean societies appear to have created a situation where advanced research can be conducted. Technically gifted men can go off and do the Male Pattern Autism thing and create planes, trains and automobiles. That's something inherently European. Wright Right and Rightiernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27407775786894169742014-05-24T10:06:17.795-07:002014-05-24T10:06:17.795-07:00Brushing aside Jews’ sensitivities to this kind of...<i>Brushing aside Jews’ sensitivities to this kind of research, for instance ...</i> <br /> <br /><br /><br />What the hell? Jews are the only group of people in the world who avidly pursue "this kind of research". The reason we end up discussing Jews in any discussion of HBD is because there is a large body of genetic data on Jews, amassed by Jewish researchers. At least a couple of times per year you'll read a (J)New York Times story about some new (Jewish run) study proclaiming how special and unique Jewish genes are, with the nearly-spoken sub-text being "Don't have sex with those goys, marry a nice Jewish boy/girl instead".<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48545628292686234062014-05-24T09:09:27.482-07:002014-05-24T09:09:27.482-07:00Mark Caplan said:
If the Nobel Prize consisted of ...Mark Caplan said:<br />If the Nobel Prize consisted of marriage to a 6-year-old virgin, Muslims would be unbeatable.<br /><br />Well, six year-old carousel riders ARE damaged goods. Heh.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49870291953985023882014-05-24T08:46:02.636-07:002014-05-24T08:46:02.636-07:00"Anonymous said...
If I understand it co..."Anonymous said...<br /><br /> If I understand it correctly Janet McDonald seems to have gotten crummy nurture, but still learned French and Law well enough to get a job in France as a lawyer. That's impressive and I doubt it was affirmative action at work, although her knowledge of American English made her unique and was important to her success.<br /><br /> So I don't see what the point of all the IQ talk is. In life you deal with individuals not demographics. Janet McDonald is way smarter than a dumb Jewish person. When she was alive I would rather Janet McDonald handle my legal affairs then a random Jew.<br /><br /> 5/23/14, 6:35 PM"<br /><br />If Janet McDonald was alive you could ask her to explain averages to you.<br /><br />GordoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-74524273402695013782014-05-24T08:06:40.088-07:002014-05-24T08:06:40.088-07:00@ Mark Caplan --That's a keeper!@ Mark Caplan --That's a keeper!Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59287068529467669992014-05-24T06:22:19.601-07:002014-05-24T06:22:19.601-07:00The FT Isn't Just Saying Piketty Made A Mistak...The FT Isn't Just Saying Piketty Made A Mistake — They're Saying He Manipulated Data http://t.co/E5dmmpkWp8 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68639522186857211112014-05-24T06:13:54.964-07:002014-05-24T06:13:54.964-07:00"Mensa has really dropped it's standards....<i>"Mensa has really dropped it's standards."</i><br /><br />Not necessarily. The criteria for Mensa entry -- SAT, GRE, etc. -- are all very imperfect measures of intelligence on an individual basis. The ability to score well on IQ tests (which is, after all, what IQ tests really measure) is a parameter that is much more useful for analyzing groups than for analyzing individuals, given that idiosyncrasies cancel out among the former. The last time I looked, the Mensa meet-up subgroups contained an unusually large number of pagan/occult themes and zaftig librarian-looking types favoring Goth or starchild haberdashery and Tarot readings (though maybe that was what stuck out to someone like me -- it was a very cursory overview, so take that with a grain of salt). <br /><br />In any case, there are plenty of people who have more than a few screws loose, but still manage to do well on IQ tests.HAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33650436251037503942014-05-24T05:51:04.773-07:002014-05-24T05:51:04.773-07:00"Considering he never met his biological fath...<i>"Considering he never met his biological father, that's not surprising...."</i><br /><br />That is incorrect. Actually, he did meet him. Later on, when he found out that man from the restaurant he liked was actually his father, he still had no interest in getting to know more of him. Whereas he met his sister only after he had lawyers/detectives conduct a nationwide search. <br /><br /><i>"...a lot of Americans whose parents were immigrants have had trouble connecting with their family members."</i><br /><br />Yeah, especially when said immigrant acts like a low-life to your biological mother, leaving her to eventually put the kids up for adoption. I think that's a little more relevant than any Syrian/American cultural gap.<br /><br />The point is, it's not just nature, and it's not just nurture. There is such a thing as character, and it matters.HAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53696848282299147302014-05-24T04:47:11.257-07:002014-05-24T04:47:11.257-07:00In reviews I've read of Wade's book a coup...In reviews I've read of Wade's book a couple of other recent books dealing with the same topic or related topics have been mentioned, notably J. Philippe Rushton's <em>"Race, Evolution, and Behavior"</em> and Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending's <em>"The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution"</em> anyone here have any thoughts on these two books?dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54503757138329832822014-05-24T04:40:16.099-07:002014-05-24T04:40:16.099-07:00Yeah winning a nobel prize is really the easiest w...Yeah winning a nobel prize is really the easiest way to get a million dolars. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36891462028794920412014-05-24T03:46:14.414-07:002014-05-24T03:46:14.414-07:00IQ won't save you from a disparate impact suit...<i>IQ won't save you from a disparate impact suit unless it can convince society as a whole to do away with such nonsense.</i><br /><br />I'm all for IQ-testing of juries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32108665715596508762014-05-24T03:34:52.755-07:002014-05-24T03:34:52.755-07:00In conclusion, we don't like your tone, young ...<i>In conclusion, we don't like your tone, young man.</i><br /><br />Steve, such snarky comments don't make your case for you, and fail to convince anyone outside your echo chamber.<br /><br />Of all the reviews of Wade's book, this seems to be one of the weakest, but other thoughtful critiques have been made by people who understand genetics or statistics (or both.) You have yourself linked to them. Why don't you try to make scientific critiques of those reviews instead of picking and choosing a weak sentence here and there to make fun of?<br /><br />Whenever a particular quality/trait/attribute (like intelligence or aggression) follows a normal distribution <b>within</b> a particular race (or genetic configuration if you will), the entire burden of evidence for monocausal explanations lies on people arguing for monocausality. You can't just focus on the tails and say, one race is better than another, when there is a huge overlap across races for most of the bell curves. Doing that makes you and Wade (if he indeed believes all his "speculations") sound like political (and not scientific) advocates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4888352057188513702014-05-24T02:16:16.272-07:002014-05-24T02:16:16.272-07:00I encourage everyone to read Robert J. Richards...<i>I encourage everyone to read Robert J. Richards's title essay in his collection Was Hitler a Darwinian?</i><br /><br />I happened to read the same essay just last week. It succeeds quite admirably in distinguishing Hitler's ideas from Darwinian evolutionary theory. The charge usually made against Hitler is that he was a <i>Social</i> Darwinist, and while the essay acknowledges this, it does not draw a sufficiently strong distinction between Darwinism and Social Darwinism. This is disappointing because race-deniers typically insist on just such a connection: that applying Darwinian concepts to human beings necessarily leads to something like early 20th century Social Darwinism. Still, this essay makes a worthy contribution towards revealing race-deniers as the politically motivated frauds they are.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34254845964648509312014-05-23T20:47:05.748-07:002014-05-23T20:47:05.748-07:00"No, it's not about predictive power at a..."No, it's not about predictive power at all. I wouldn't want to hire an average black, or white, or even Asian base on their race. It's about not having to explain why after I hired based on merit my employees don't represent a random sample of the population. It's not my fault, it's 50,000 years of history. That's the point." - back before businesses had to explain themselves for hiring whoever they wanted to hire they tended to test their workers. IQ won't save you from a disparate impact suit unless it can convince society as a whole to do away with such nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60842217638866532052014-05-23T20:36:38.147-07:002014-05-23T20:36:38.147-07:00re: dearime - "Equality before the law is a m...re: dearime - "Equality before the law is a moral and practical issue,. not a scientific one. To preach that it is scientific is to risk that the idea will be thrown out once the science of racial differences becomes undisputed. Dear God, what a reckless fool!"<br /><br />Brother, you got that right.Luke Leahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11290760894780619646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52309305074788128602014-05-23T20:33:28.937-07:002014-05-23T20:33:28.937-07:00"the disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes ..."the disproportionate number of Nobel Prizes awarded to people of Jewish descent..."<br /><br />Many have attributed the plethora of Nobel Prizes won by Jews and the paltry number won by Muslims as evidence of superior Jewish intelligence. Nonsense! Jews dominate because of the enticement of the $1 million award. If the Nobel Prize consisted of marriage to a 6-year-old virgin, Muslims would be unbeatable.Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80451433672976426482014-05-23T19:43:17.822-07:002014-05-23T19:43:17.822-07:00"So I don't see what the point of all the...<i>"So I don't see what the point of all the IQ talk is." - once again, the point is predictive power, not looking back and saying that so and so was capable, but looking forward to see who in all likelyhood will be.</i><br /><br />No, it's not about predictive power at all. I wouldn't want to hire an average black, or white, or even Asian base on their race. It's about not having to explain why after I hired based on merit my employees don't represent a random sample of the population. It's not my fault, it's 50,000 years of history. That's the point.Chief Seattlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26073685546161332612014-05-23T19:31:11.778-07:002014-05-23T19:31:11.778-07:00In life you deal with individuals not demographics...<i> In life you deal with individuals not demographics.</i><br /><br />Boy, you really have not been keeping up. On a personal level we can deal with individuals. On the level of political policy, we deal with demographics, and our unwillingness to acknowledge the reality of group differences leads to disastrous outcomes. For example, no sane country would figure that a good way to be economically competitive in the 21st century is to stock up on tens of millions of agricultural peasants from south of the border.Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76048975567043564952014-05-23T19:26:10.019-07:002014-05-23T19:26:10.019-07:00he never satisfyingly grapples with the reality th...<i>he never satisfyingly grapples with the reality that strictures against this type of research remain in place for a reason: namely that the science of racial differences presents an affront to our relatively fragile and hard-won political understanding (widely sanctioned internationally) that all people deserve equal treatment under the law.</i><br /><br />How long has it been since Americans of different races received equal treatment under the law? And speaking of "never satisfyingly grapples," does Shulman grapple with the fact that he's arguing that political correctness should take precedence over scientific truth? <br /><br /><i>In an America still struggling with glaring disparities in opportunity between whites and blacks,</i><br /><br />Shulman says opportunities, but he means outcomes. In the minds of people like him, they're synonymous.<br /><br /><i>Despite Wade’s seeming command of the science involved, statements like these set a tone that often makes him seem like an over-eager debater so keen to score points that he ultimately loses the larger argument.</i><br /><br />Shulman favors the new style of debating pioneered by the Towson debating team, where you just spout gibberish and holler about white privilege.<br /> Harry Baldwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9358798108126373682014-05-23T18:48:36.456-07:002014-05-23T18:48:36.456-07:00"So I don't see what the point of all the..."So I don't see what the point of all the IQ talk is." - once again, the point is predictive power, not looking back and saying that so and so was capable, but looking forward to see who in all likelyhood will be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com