tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8080360755233045678..comments2024-03-29T05:14:33.223-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Peter Hitchens: "It wasn't because we liked immigrants, but because we didn't like Britain."Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger147125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48100318736841937582014-01-28T09:26:09.903-08:002014-01-28T09:26:09.903-08:00Adult indian-american male, pro-immigration, but n...Adult indian-american male, pro-immigration, but not mass,mono-country (i.e. Mexico) immigration, controlled at rate that will assimilate. Also immigration should be diverse, there shouldn't be more from one country or another, where large enclaves start to develop that allows isolation from mainstream, and skill levels should not vary by country, i.e. unskilled workers should not just come from countries like Mexico in the US or the middleeast, north africa in europe, they should be evenly distributed from elsewhere such as europe asia africa south america etc, fair is fair. Above all assimilate, and countries promote assimilation not multi-culturalism!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55382281583269832142013-04-07T02:10:41.783-07:002013-04-07T02:10:41.783-07:00You can be an admirer of Powell's intellect an...You can be an admirer of Powell's intellect and bravery, and believe that the Rivers of Blood speech addressed the right issues at the right time. You can even agree that integration is going to be harder generations down the line when people are of a different appearance.<br /><br />However that still does not mean that Hitchen's wrong to bemoan the way in which that speech was made, with "black man will have the whip hand over the white man" and "charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies". <br /><br />I've no idea if Hitchens shares the view that Powell was clever and brave, although its clear he thinks that he addressed the right subject at the right time. However as someone who appreciates Powell as a politician over many areas I find the language within the Rivers of Blood speech to have been unhelpful.<br /><br />You do not have to disagree with the warnings in it, or dislike the man to say that the speech was ill judged.<br /><br />I also think that Hitchen's readersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42427984442162676842013-04-06T20:47:38.336-07:002013-04-06T20:47:38.336-07:00Honest, I'm for immigration on principle.
Wha...<i>Honest, I'm for immigration on principle.</i><br /><br />What principle is that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29681426788010055422013-04-06T20:04:12.360-07:002013-04-06T20:04:12.360-07:00Honest, I'm for immigration on principle. Not ...<i>Honest, I'm for immigration on principle. Not because I resent whites. I feel kinda sorry for whites. But, whites being pitied by another race is such a strange and novel feeling in society that people think I'm strange. It tires me out, so I avoid it.</i><br /><br />If you sincerely pity whites I don't understand why you are often so aggressively anti-white. I understand some kinds of WNs can be extremely annoying, but you seem to react the same way to even much milder types. <br /><br />It is strange to see that kind of pity for whites, but it's not impossible to understand: their cause is quite justice so it's really just a case of having the courage to take a stand for baseline racial justice, even if it means standing up for the hated white man. <br /><br />I feel pretty much the same way. I get pulled into their group as a 'fellow white' sometimes, which is fair enough in the sense that I belong to a white ethnicity, but I don't feel very much in the way of racial closeness to northern europeans. Still, as I said, it's not wrong for them to not to be wiped off the planet, so I have to support them. <br /><br />And morality aside, if you like your own kind and want your own kind to have a racial future then supporting whites is the best strategy. In the American context, it's the only strategy that makes any sense. If whites go down, we'll all eventually go down; if whites win, we'll win too.<br /><br />See, if you're going to attack whites and support immigration 'on principle,' then sooner or later they are going to apply that principle to you, and demand that Korea be flooded with 50 million africans. If you're a man of principle how could you refuse? (And you need them to grow your economy and diversity is such a strength and all that..) It's pure negrify-thy-neighbor. That way we all lose. Much simpler to support whites' racial existence on the agreement they support yours. Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45520023912520376182013-04-06T19:53:22.114-07:002013-04-06T19:53:22.114-07:00White immigrants (Eastern Europeans mostly) have b...<i>White immigrants (Eastern Europeans mostly) have been adapting to Greek society at a much faster pace than other ethnic and/or racial groups (Africans, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc). The Greek society has generally responded in much the same way - provided you don't believe what the local news outlets say.</i><br /><br />Interesting how Greeks sit back and allow hundreds of thousands (soon millions?) of Ukrainians and Albanians to flood in without minding too much, but all it takes is for one little slavophone from Florina to declare "I am Macedonian" all hell breaks loose. Lol, that's a pretty open-and-shut case of mixed up priorities right there. <br /><br /><i>I'm absolutely positive a Greek leftist elite would have increased his popularity had he made the same declaration as Hitchens.</i><br /><br />You're right about this. A little bit of honesty here could go a long, long way. It's a perfect lie for a politician (and for once it's a lie that would actually help the Right rather than hurt us). In fact, I fully expect them to start saying these things if support for Xrisi Avgi continues to rise. On the other hand, it may be seen to aid the racial right rather draw support away from it. I'm sure this reasoning has figured in the minds of some politicians who have contemplated using this line, and it's not necessarily a case of cold political calculation, either. Let's face it, the racial right's extremist nonsense can be extremely off-putting, and some people get so upset by it they are more than happy to cut of their noses to spite their faces. It's imperative racialists understand the nature of this unfortunate tendency. <br /><br />Btw, support for Xrisi Avgi was only 7% (not 10%) last election. It's not all that exciting. That's only 1% better than the Sweden Democrats, and SD hasn't aroused anywhere near the excitement in racialist circles, which is surprising since for obvious historical reasons northern european 'racism' faces much tougher hurdles.Silvernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21589670128268732502013-04-06T16:34:17.828-07:002013-04-06T16:34:17.828-07:00">would the Caribbean Negroes or Pakistani...">would the Caribbean Negroes or Pakistanis and whatnots ever vote for a conservative or pro-British party?<"<br /><br />There's a class axis and a racial axis and a religious axis so it depends what group you're talking about and whether the pro-British party was more labor or business focused.<br /><br />Some groups under exactly the right circumstances you could get up to 50% maybe but they'd always be paranoid it was going to go further so i don't think you could ever get more than that.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24452204265714823622013-04-05T21:40:21.737-07:002013-04-05T21:40:21.737-07:00To anon at 9:02 PM:
I don't know if you are a...To anon at 9:02 PM:<br /><br />I don't know if you are also from Canada or not, but Vietnamese are very active in Asian organized crime, up here. They play a big role in the overseas drug trades, and are a big player in the ever growing domestic drug industry here. They also have a lock on the home-invasion market and many of their street gangs are very violent. We just had a shootout execution at Yorkdale mall where the "Asians Assassins" were targeted. Vietnamese were non-existent in this country until about just over thirty years ago. I'd say we were doing just fine without them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36719303395328186902013-04-05T19:18:53.181-07:002013-04-05T19:18:53.181-07:00syon,
Let me clarify. I don't resent whites. ...syon,<br /><br />Let me clarify. I don't resent whites. I resent whites like you.<br /><br />Simple. See? Haciendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-12581883287789485082013-04-05T05:42:43.579-07:002013-04-05T05:42:43.579-07:00Hacienda:"Burke is NOT relevant. You don'...Hacienda:"Burke is NOT relevant. You don't get off the net much, do you."<br /><br />Love the caps on "Not." It just screams leftist hissy-fit. As for the relevancy of Burke, who stands as a better antidote to the twin-forces of leftist multiculturalism and neo-liberal economics?Burke speaks to all that the left loathes.Hence, your disregard for him, dear boy.<br /><br />Hacienda:"Thanks for calling me boy. I feel so young. Trying hard to insult me with that 19th C, mid 20th C all-purpose whity insult at colored folks like myself."<br /><br />So touchy, dear boy.Typical behavior for the the anti-White Left, whose politics are simply a manifestation of their hatred for Western Civilization. Actually, if you would go over my older postings on Steve's blog, you would see that my "dear boys" are a schoolmasterish affectation, not a racial invective. I simply love schooling leftists, as it were. They are so ignorant, like children...<br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Hacienda:"Honest, I'm for immigration on principle. Not because I resent whites."<br /><br />Ah, the old Lewis Carroll technique....sadly, dear boy, repetition does not equal truth, and your resentment of Whites bleeds out of every utterance. Again, though, if such pretty lies help you to feel better about yourself...<br /><br />syon<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34673549215757899062013-04-04T22:28:26.848-07:002013-04-04T22:28:26.848-07:00"Vietnamese are not that bad. I don't see..."Vietnamese are not that bad. I don't see why you lump them with those other three nations."<br /><br />LOL, don't you get it, Sport? That milquetoast, conciliatory, "oh, some of the muds aren't that bad" attitude is PRECISELY WHY YOU CLOWNS ARE LOSING!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55723610851322474352013-04-04T21:15:45.556-07:002013-04-04T21:15:45.556-07:00"Honest, I'm for immigration on principle...<i>"Honest, I'm for immigration on principle. ... I'm pro-immmigration and anti-white...</i><br /><br />Messages such as these need to be made widely available. It would make a good debate topic in high schools. There are probably some young Hitchens out there who are clueless about the world outside their immediate circle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42653070385023644672013-04-04T21:05:05.001-07:002013-04-04T21:05:05.001-07:00I don't think we should cut Hitchens any slack...I don't think we should cut Hitchens any slack, even if he didn't play as big a role as he thinks. Fellow Travelers did their bit.<br /><br />The old avant garde of his age are slowly realizing that they will go down in history as a bunch of foolish people who tried to destroy their heritage, well-being, and a good bit of what was good in the world for reasons as simple as thoughtlessly impressing their friends of the moment. They sold their future and inheritance for a mess of words. Many of them probably mentally never left school. It was all just words.<br /><br />The ancient Greeks knew about hubris and tragedy. The stagelight should be kept on these people to reinforce the age-old lesson. No fairy-tale make-believe endings.<br /><br />Though in addition, somewhere there's probably an interesting file, which Putin now has deeply buried (if it ever wasn't), as to the role of the KGB with respect to post Cuban Missile Crisis Soviet strategy to encourage wars of national liberation throughout the Third World and the West. Remember Comrades! You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs! Come the Revolution! Down with The Man! <br /><br />We're talking <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures" rel="nofollow">Active Measures</a> here (your KKK news of the day):<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_measures" rel="nofollow">"...stirring up racial tensions in the United States by mailing bogus letters from the Ku Klux Klan, placing an explosive package in "the Negro section of New York" (operation PANDORA), and spreading conspiracy theories that Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination had been planned by the US government...<br /><br />... GRU alone spent more than $1 billion for propaganda and peace movements..."</a><br /><br />Whatever the actual details, there probably was a sustained effort. Maybe it's now an amok zombie weapon. Die, Zombie, Die!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56059701723946324682013-04-04T21:02:11.654-07:002013-04-04T21:02:11.654-07:00I'd take Poles over Jamaicans, Somalis, Pakist...<i>I'd take Poles over Jamaicans, Somalis, Pakistanis, Vietnamese, or any of the other various crime-prone violent, welfare inclined third worlders my rotten government chooses to let in.</i><br /><br />Vietnamese are not that bad. I don't see why you lump them with those other three nations.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39299397475110299672013-04-04T20:46:27.487-07:002013-04-04T20:46:27.487-07:00White, male, in my early sixties, Founding Stock A...White, male, in my early sixties, Founding Stock American, raised Methodist, now attend Traditional Anglican services (Fuck you, ECUSA) , proud that all four of my great-grandfathers served honorably against the USA in The War. <br /><br />I'm a White Nationalist who has no problem with my church (AMIA) being run by black Africans, the last honest Anglicans. God seems to be fond of little jokes like that.Justthisguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277333206171756636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21447489288914978052013-04-04T19:22:52.009-07:002013-04-04T19:22:52.009-07:0035yo white female, happily married mother of four ...35yo white female, happily married mother of four (not a 'blended' family either). Was raised a Leftist atheist America-hater; can't really shake off the atheism (or at least agnosticism), but sometime in my 20s I got absolutely gobsmacked by gratitude, cemented by my anger and disgust at the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. Started out as a rah-rah Neocon, but said goodbye to all that thanks to isteve and others (plus my own experiences in the military).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10239058058119336042013-04-04T18:46:50.139-07:002013-04-04T18:46:50.139-07:00Burke Conservative,
Burke is NOT relevant. You do...Burke Conservative,<br /><br />Burke is NOT relevant. You don't get off the net much, do you.<br /><br />Thanks for calling me boy. I feel so young. Trying hard to insult me with that 19th C, mid 20th C all-purpose whity insult at colored folks like myself. That grandeur of whitey highlighting the paucity of colored people with that simple slander. Oh, my, my. <br /><br />Honest, I'm for immigration on principle. Not because I resent whites. I feel kinda sorry for whites. But, whites being pitied by another race is such a strange and novel feeling in society that people think I'm strange. It tires me out, so I avoid it.<br /><br />Haciendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5766326519495713672013-04-04T18:25:26.290-07:002013-04-04T18:25:26.290-07:00Age: 57
Sex: male
Race: Caucasus*/Iceland/Malay
IQ...Age: 57<br />Sex: male<br />Race: Caucasus*/Iceland/Malay<br />IQ: 180<br />Weight: 115 pounds (skin & bones)<br />Religion: Asatru/Buddhist<br />Politics: Shift-Alt-Right<br /><br />* I'm a REAL Caucasian!!!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8471025403095355992013-04-04T16:50:27.417-07:002013-04-04T16:50:27.417-07:00I find it strange that there were only 3 Jews and ...I find it strange that there were only 3 Jews and 2 partial Jews who commented, and yet Steve supposedly has such a lot of very literate black readers.<br /><br />And yet, whenever there is an article critical of Israel, the comments section feels like someone kicked over a nest of hornets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62350575656281531832013-04-04T16:24:06.660-07:002013-04-04T16:24:06.660-07:00A refreshing confession.
Perhaps you, Anglo-Saxon...A refreshing confession.<br /><br />Perhaps you, Anglo-Saxons, should start feeling more akin to your Mediterranean cousins and start reading more about the recent developments in Greece, namely thoroughly-anti-immigrant party Golden Dawn's (google it!) rise to 10% of the vote.<br /><br />While the rest of the world may have been considering the economic crisis in the European South as the main problem to be solved, us Southerners have been increasingly focusing on immigration issues, which, by some weird twist of fate, have come to be exactly the same as the ones you're having in the past years.<br /><br />From what I've been reading, the "balkanization" concept is still a popular meme in the West; however, this is no longer a major issue, especially in Greece.<br /><br />What IS a major issue, though, is the increasing number of ghettos and no-go zones in the capital, Athens, and the increasing diversification of population groups. Both phenomenae bear the same characteristics as the ones you describe in your articles and its comments.<br /><br />This is not a problem solely restricted to the Anglo-Saxon world and its immediate neighbours. It affects the whole white world.<br /><br />White immigrants (Eastern Europeans mostly) have been adapting to Greek society at a much faster pace than other ethnic and/or racial groups (Africans, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis etc). The Greek society has generally responded in much the same way - provided you don't believe what the local news outlets say.<br /><br />I'm absolutely positive a Greek leftist elite would have increased his popularity had he made the same declaration as Hitchens.<br /><br />The term "racism" was virtually non-existent in Greece before the giant immigration wave struck the country in the mid-90s; a wave which keeps bringing up 3rd world immigrants in our shores. Nobody prepared the society for such a massive change.<br /><br />Now, the society tries to adapt, in ways very similar - almost identical - to the ones i'm seeing here, at this blog, among others. That's why I'm reading it: because i can totally identify with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50108480878993955632013-04-04T16:16:54.286-07:002013-04-04T16:16:54.286-07:00>would the Caribbean Negroes or Pakistanis and ...>would the Caribbean Negroes or Pakistanis and whatnots ever vote for a conservative or pro-British party?<<br /><br />It's not a bet that 10 Downing bothered to consult the British people about; nor should anyone ever take the bet, given the consequences of losing.Davidhttp://david-passingparade2.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37438101219777947822013-04-04T16:07:15.646-07:002013-04-04T16:07:15.646-07:00"WHY was there such a 'labor shortage'..."WHY was there such a 'labor shortage' in Britain after WW2? The U.K.'s losses in WW1 were fully twice as high and nobody in 1921 was calling for Jamaicans to come to work in Britain.<br /><br />I also doubt they contributed all that much. Saying they did is simply the politiclaly correct accepted orthodoxy. What prominent Briton would say it was a mistake and not a gain?<br /><br />Even if there were some economic benefits, the cost to Britain in national character, loss of social cohesion and increases in racial tensions more then cancelled it out. In the long run Britain would have been much better off had it endured some economic pain and preserved its racial and cultural origins."<br /><br />Good point. The labour shortage could have been just made up by historians.<br /><br />You can't believe what historians say.<br /><br />They interviewed some English people in 1970 and some said that they didn't want black people in the UK. They didn't even want to see a black face. many of this people fought in WWII, but the elites by then hated their own people.<br /><br />Read the book "State of Emergency" about the Uk in the early 70's and you'll see the complete hatred the author has for English people and te love he has for blacks and Indians.<br /><br />I'm anon 5:53 and I think it was a mistake to let the immigrants in too.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44447569768988254792013-04-04T15:52:55.056-07:002013-04-04T15:52:55.056-07:00lotta young ppl here. you all live in ny right? we...lotta young ppl here. you all live in ny right? we should hang...FredRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24676577782976875852013-04-04T15:42:38.502-07:002013-04-04T15:42:38.502-07:00There is nothing wrong with Polish people, but it ...<i>There is nothing wrong with Polish people, but it is wrong to expect that you can bring in massive amounts of Polish people (or whatever group) and have the British national character remain the same as it was previously </i> <br /><br />But if you controlled the culture [the way that the BBC does in the UK], then you could at least try to wean them off of Vodka, and into Single Malt Scotch [as a first step towards, say, weaning them off of Roman Popery, and into Presbyterianism].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20797778145204278572013-04-04T15:16:33.449-07:002013-04-04T15:16:33.449-07:00Hacienda:'I'm for immigration, not because...Hacienda:'I'm for immigration, not because I resent whites."<br /><br />Whatever lies help you to sleep at night, dear boy..<br /> <br /><br />Hacienda:"It's really hard argue this point that whites have alienated themselves from planet Earth. Get that "idea" across, because its not really an idea."<br /><br />"Alienated from the Earth?" Compared to whom, dear boy?Glancing at the latest reports on environmental damage in China (the homeland of your revered Lao Tzu), the Chinese certainly seem to be rather "alienated" from the Earth...<br /><br /><br /> Hacienda:"It's even beyond culture, you know."<br /><br />Biology is the only thing beyond culture, dear boy;do you really want to there? If so, there are some absolutely fascinating studies comparing East Asian and Caucasoid infants...<br /><br /><br />Hacienda:" It even goes beyond having faith in the comforts of an irrelevant 18th C taste maker."<br /><br />Sadly, Burke has never been more vital than he is now.<br /><br />Hacienda:"But don't bitch"<br /><br />Isn't "bitchiness" the sine qua non of people like yourself, the Anti-Western civilization brigade?<br /><br />Hacienda:"I just rather you push the technology further. Advance humanity, all that stuff."<br /><br />....and importing all of these millions in dead weight from the Third World will sadly make that much more difficult, if not impossible.<br /><br />syonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55604755101650967462013-04-04T15:03:35.879-07:002013-04-04T15:03:35.879-07:00Post-racial, 22, Male-bodied, Citizen of The World...Post-racial, 22, Male-bodied, Citizen of The World.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com