tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8136601701481533249..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Contempt of Cop v. Contempt of CourtUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27457795767392139942009-08-04T16:06:31.511-07:002009-08-04T16:06:31.511-07:00"Equally true is how fast that crowd can turn..."Equally true is how fast that crowd can turn into a mob, breaking windows, overturning police cars and setting fires..."<br /><br />A lynch mob in a Harvard-owned establishment in Cambridge, MA? And I thought the whole "well how was Crowley supposed to know that Gates didn't have a woman hacked up in the freezer" line was stupid. <br /><br />No bro, the only way people are going to pull out the pitchforks and torches in Cambridge is if the Eli's conspire with the judges to win the Yale-Harvard Regatta.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63371947751628884012009-08-02T15:21:45.827-07:002009-08-02T15:21:45.827-07:00You touch on something in the Gates-Crowley contro...You touch on something in the Gates-Crowley controversy that virtually all the media people have ignored. There is a good reason for (1) not arresting disorderly people in their own houses and (2) arresting them quickly and decisively when they are disorderly outside. <br /><br />Anyone who has ever lived in an urban area knows just how fast a loud and disorderly person can attract a crowd on the streets, especially if he has a racial grevience. Equally true is how fast that crowd can turn into a mob, breaking windows, overturning police cars and setting fires. Police have an obligation to arrest people who are disorderly in public, not to protect their egos, but rather to prevent a mob from forming, which no one can control, and which leads to riots, gunfire and whole streets going up in flames.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-29231848517191899442009-07-31T14:54:43.767-07:002009-07-31T14:54:43.767-07:00"My goodness Truth, you must have had very li..."My goodness Truth, you must have had very little contact with law enforcement in your life if you think there's anything "servile" about police officers or their status."<br /><br />I didn't write the article.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8417491995035684362009-07-31T10:54:30.788-07:002009-07-31T10:54:30.788-07:00I guess I've come to regard "libertarian&...I guess I've come to regard "libertarian" as an epithet. Because, though I share a lot of their beliefs and concerns, I detest being lumped in with them.<br /><br />Hating government - and by that I mean from the abstract sense, right down to the DMV employees - on principle means I'm a libertarian now? Urg.<br /><br />No, I can't accept that. No one who's had to go through enough dealings with state government can possibly regard (most of) those people as anything but a lower form of life.<br /><br />Try and imagine the flight from reality concomitant with:<br /><br />a) getting paid with money stolen from people who make an honest living.<br /><br />b) having an air of righteous authority, even to the point of rationing out shit to the non-obsequious (!).<br /><br />That's just un-American in my book.<br /><br />~SvigorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63895089872877125792009-07-31T10:52:21.114-07:002009-07-31T10:52:21.114-07:00Most crime can't be prevented by main force an...Most crime can't be prevented by main force anyway, unless you're talking mano-a-mano between victim and perp in the moment. Learn to profile, and buy a gun for the sticky moments. The cops mostly write descriptions of crimes after the damage is done, by logical necessity. The Speilberg / Tom Cruise movie about crime-prognosticating test-tube psychics is fiction.<br /><br />Effective crime prevention is along the lines of the "broken window" theory, and yes, sorry to say, putting up cameras every place and watching / tailing especially suspicious characters.<br /><br />It is assumed that cops must be effective at all costs. But cops can't solve ALL society's problems. Cops are effective up to a point. If a society is so utterly disintegrated that every Barney Fife is driving a tank and civil liberties are a bad joke, however, then cops are being relied on too heavily to solve more fundamental problems. You can't solve every disfunction with bigger bullets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76366877130049203252009-07-31T10:35:38.286-07:002009-07-31T10:35:38.286-07:00In the minds of those radicals the gun owning bour...<i>In the minds of those radicals the gun owning bourgeois homeowner was the real threat, not the burglar.</i> <br /><br />Yes. I'm going to wrack my brain to come up with a character from a (non-Western) film who practices with and uses a firearm who is not:<br /><br />1) a cop/soldier<br />2) a criminal/villain<br /><br />~SvigorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82639303911459396082009-07-31T10:28:43.106-07:002009-07-31T10:28:43.106-07:00Anonymous said
"To the extent that cops are ...Anonymous said<br /><br />"To the extent that cops are a lot nastier it's because they are dealing with a nastier lot than a generation or two ago - NAMs running wild. How many Crips and Bloods and M-13 type thugs were there in 1963? Very few. <br /><br />"The consequences are that as a white man I'm dealing with a far nastier cop when I am pulled over for speeding than I was when I was a teenager. They're ruining our society, in this and other aspects. <br /><br />"I'm as anti-cop as they come these days, but I quite liked them when I was a teenager; many of my friends' dads were cops and cops would bust our parties every other weekend but there was never a real problem with them in terms of conduct."<br /><br />Well said. That's where I'm coming from.<br /><br />Diversity is our strength how?<br /><br />(Egotistical NB: I am not the other "David" in this thread.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-9701003466946883112009-07-31T10:22:50.455-07:002009-07-31T10:22:50.455-07:00Can you smite him intellectually before he becomes...<i>Can you smite him intellectually before he becomes the next Malcolm Gladwell?</i> <br /><br />LoL-ed twice at this. :)<br /><br />~SvigorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28045197447779321742009-07-31T07:31:37.213-07:002009-07-31T07:31:37.213-07:00"albertosaurus said...
Last year however I c..."albertosaurus said...<br /><br />Last year however I cop let me off with a warning and I feel better about all police now. I was coming down the Donner Pass at 105 mph asleep at the wheel."<br /><br />Seems unlikely to become policy now. With local governments hard up for money, expect deputies and state-troopers to be writing more tickets. In my state they have apparently turned the state troopers loose with instructions that they need to become profit centers.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27732671446710049612009-07-31T03:29:01.252-07:002009-07-31T03:29:01.252-07:00Truth: "police officers who don't care to...Truth: "police officers who don't care to be reminded of their servile status."<br /><br />My goodness Truth, you must have had very little contact with law enforcement in your life if you think there's anything "servile" about police officers or their status. They have power over you and me, they know it, and they definitely act like it. You might get amused, patronizing condescension from them if you're lucky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19499586380705085942009-07-30T21:56:17.389-07:002009-07-30T21:56:17.389-07:00EXCELLENT article Buddhadev:
Here's an excerp...EXCELLENT article Buddhadev:<br /><br />Here's an excerpt for those of you that did not read it:<br /><br />"Any cop can deal with a robbery suspect, but show me the cop who can handle a real American," commented Stamper in a recent interview with the (Boston-based) Christian Science Monitor, quoting policing expert George Thompson. A "real American" is "someone, when you say, `Roll down the window,' says `No,' or who meets you at the threshold at home and says `No, you can't come in. Show me your warrant.'"<br /><br /><br /><br />For all of the horrors associated with the militarization of law enforcement, there is one ironic benefit: It's becoming easier all the time to recognize the "real Americans" among us. They're the ones writhing at the end of Taser wires, or being dragged away in handcuffs, or bleeding to death on the floor of their homes because they required -- either verbally or through so much as a moment's puzzled non-cooperation -- a modicum of respect for their constitutionally guaranteed rights.<br /><br />Talk about gratuitous: Henry Gates, seen here under arrest for the purported crime of hurting a police officer's feelings.<br /><br /><br />Most jurisdictions have what some call "cover laws" -- such as those dealing with "disturbing the peace," "disorderly conduct," or other dubious infractions -- that are applied with malicious creativity by police officers who don't care to be reminded of their servile status.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91581019887501671492009-07-30T18:48:38.261-07:002009-07-30T18:48:38.261-07:00What groups like lawyers and dislike cops?
Lets s...What groups like lawyers and dislike cops?<br /><br />Lets see, Liberal WASPs, Jews, drug users, and the chattering classes in general. Plus of course, the "useful idiots" - libertarians.<br /><br />BTW, "Marc B" made an interesting point. I used to laugh at those dinosaurs from the 50s talking about "Communistic" rock and roll was. Yet, look at the filth and anti-western message in "rap" and today's music. It looks like the dinosaurs were right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21690742427444063442009-07-30T18:01:08.157-07:002009-07-30T18:01:08.157-07:00Steve,
Will Grigg wrote an interesting blog here ...Steve,<br /><br />Will Grigg wrote an interesting blog here that takes basically the diametric opposite view:<br /><br />http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2009/07/praetorian-presumptions.html<br /><br />What do you think?BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04412855686908336566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5246539374123487832009-07-30T16:53:25.454-07:002009-07-30T16:53:25.454-07:00The good old days were also the days of the rubber...The good old days were also the days of the rubber hose or even the hammer for those too stubborn for the rubber hose treatment (used by the NJ cops on Bruno Richard Hauptmann according to Scott Berg's biography of Lindbergh). The old-timey cops were too busy beating up criminals in the precinct basement or boodling to hastle the rest of us.Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71537000325030942392009-07-30T16:42:30.867-07:002009-07-30T16:42:30.867-07:00Cops were much more violent back in the old days. ...Cops were much more violent back in the old days. They wouldnt hesitate to tune you up with their nightstick if you got out of line. Also getting a beatdown during questioning was pretty commonplace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21026274285545444922009-07-30T14:22:46.231-07:002009-07-30T14:22:46.231-07:00"they WILL balance their numbers even if it i..."they WILL balance their numbers even if it is to just keep them balanced."<br /><br />Sort of like how the UK banned "white" talk radio "neo-con" Michael Savage (nee Weiner) to, by their own admission, balance out the list lest it contained too many radical Muslims? There's another example.<br /><br />Note how this was reported in two different publications on different sides of the Atlantic; actually it's Weiner playing it differently for two different crowds:<br /><br />WND:<br /><br />Savage: I'm banned because I'm Jewish<br />'I think we could be accused of duplicity in naming him'<br /><br />Official correspondence, released under the United Kingdom's Freedom of Information law, reveals that U.S. radio talk-show host Michael Savage's name was placed on a list of people banned from Britain in order to provide "balance" to a "least wanted" list dominated by Muslim extremists, and the decision was made "at the highest level of government," the London Daily Mail reported today. <br />...<br />Savage told WND today the Home Office chose him to balance the list of Muslim extremists because he is Jewish.<br /><br />"The name Dreyfus comes to mind. They have attempted to destroy my reputation to avoid offending those Muslims who want to destroy them! The Warsaw ghetto comes to mind, where some Jews threw other Jews into gestapo hands to live another day," he said. <br /><br />http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105029<br /><br />UK's Daily Mail:<br /><br />US shock jock Savage targeted 'to balance least wanted list'<br /><br />Mr Savage, who had not even applied for entry to Britain, claimed his name had been 'plucked out of a hat' because he was 'controversial and white'. He has since served a £100,000 libel writ on Ms Smith, who announced his ban on television.<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202169/US-shock-jock-Savage-targeted-balance-wanted-list.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26993431690413736322009-07-30T14:01:22.925-07:002009-07-30T14:01:22.925-07:00James Crowley lied in his police report.
You ...<i> James Crowley lied in his police report.</i> <br /> <br /><br /><br />You read that on Daily Kos, did you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84495264020912165782009-07-30T13:55:55.616-07:002009-07-30T13:55:55.616-07:00The consequences are that as a white man I'm d...The consequences are that as a white man I'm dealing with a far nastier cop when I am pulled over for speeding than I was when I was a teenager. They're ruining our society, in this and other aspects. <br />-------<br /><br />Obama, while a St Sen in IL, pushed <a href="http://dailyme.com/story/2009072300011681/obamas-bill-measure-racial-profiling-earned.html" rel="nofollow">a law</a> to record the race of every person pulled over in IL. <br /><br />The cops are giving the plaintiff's attys all the ammo they need to sue the crap out of them. <br /><br />If the cops don't want to get ran thru the mud, they WILL balance their numbers even if it is to just keep them balanced.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72152741008101511152009-07-30T13:53:33.141-07:002009-07-30T13:53:33.141-07:00I always assumed Bay City was a fictional stand-in...I always assumed Bay City was a fictional stand-in for Santa Monica. Why did Chandler give the city a fictitious name? I don't believe he did this with any other SoCal municipalities. Anyway thanks for the confirmation Steve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81239991497467518622009-07-30T13:23:19.129-07:002009-07-30T13:23:19.129-07:00That poor kid who got killed at Chicago is the tip...That poor kid who got killed at Chicago is the tip of the iceberg. Every year some little Chinese or white girl got raped. Every month a student got mugged at gunpoint or knifepoint. A friend was knocked off his bike with a baseball bat, stabbed, and his wallet was taken. <br /><br />One thing black students at University of Chicago seemed to do consistently was wear a lot of University of Chicago clothing: sweatshirts, hoodies, hats, etc., so the cops knew who was who. <br /><br />That said, if you lived in Hyde Park which is about 55% black, just like anywhere else in life, you begin to develop instincts. You can spot the black professionals who live there and quickly distinguish them from hoods and thugs in the nearby neighborhoods. It's a useful skill to develop, just like all profiling is a good skill to develop. You can't run around being scared shitless of half your neighborhood, and you don't need to. Age, clothes, demeanor, grooming, hairstyle, shoes, time of day, gender etc. all go in the mix.Mansizedtarget.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09771297143097475580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45889303848898191832009-07-30T12:06:38.943-07:002009-07-30T12:06:38.943-07:00From Steve's Taki:
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Thus, the Obama was...From Steve's Taki:<br /><br />"<br />Thus, the Obama was highly prudent about exposing himself to the disorganized dangers of the Chicago communities he claimed to organize. He lived within the Green Zone security perimeter (between 39th St. and 64th St.) provided by the University of Chicago’s hard-nosed private police force. A friend writes:<br /><br />There is a fierce and drastic difference between neighborhoods within and outside the University of Chicago Police boundary. When I was a student there, it was apparent … they were only dimly aware of things like Miranda or the presumption of innocence (for anyone, that is, other than students, faculty, black women, and black men dressed like Barack Obama—geez, I wonder who that leaves?).<br />"<br /><br />Do you think <a href="http://hydeparkcrime.blogspot.com/2007/11/remembering-amadou-cisse.html" rel="nofollow">this guy</a> wished the coppers stopped the people we all know needs some stopping????<br /><br />Read the comments. Everyone was "shocked"! So "shocking"! A black kid getting shot and killed IN CHICAGO is not shocking. A black kid getting shot and killed IN PERU is shocking. In Chicago blacks get shot and killed very frequently, but why? The Offender's in the above case were black also. The killers did not live there and they did not go to U of C. Here is a clear example when profiling would have saved a life! The PC thugs had a hand in snuffing out this star.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72759291228229512622009-07-30T11:19:44.817-07:002009-07-30T11:19:44.817-07:00"A culture of widespread respect for police g...<i>"A culture of widespread respect for police guarantees greater public safety and allows the police to use less force."</i><br /><br><br />Reminds me of the old South Africa. Blacks sure had lots of respect for the cops then! When those CASSPIR's appeared in the townships, the "shit started to fly" as they say. Funny that I keep reading about riots in exactly those townships I was patrolling in as a soldier during the "dark days" of Apartheid. I thought the new black Messiah regime in South Africa, ushered in by that über-Messiah, Mandela, was going to put a stop to the rioting once and for all. After all, it was because of those evil whites that they were rioting, right? Well, the fact that the NYT (TM:ST) does not report it means it ain't happening. I must be dreaming then. I'll go back to sleep again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27389280552689873362009-07-30T11:14:02.552-07:002009-07-30T11:14:02.552-07:00Roach of course fails to mention that those same c...Roach of course fails to mention that those same cop hating "cultural radicals" had equal disdain for bourgeois civilians. As the crime rate exploded due to this radical liberalism it concurrently became harder and harder for middle class citizens to defend themselves without facing legal repercussions. In the minds of those radicals the gun owning bourgeois homeowner was the real threat, not the burglar. It never fails to amuse me whenever I hear under-class blacks complain about police harassment. Given their proclivity towards and tolerence of anti-social behavior it seems as if the police are their best friends. How long do you think middle class whites would tolerate being victims if there was no police presence at all? Yes Mr. Roach,those "cultural radicals" hate the police,but guess who they hate even more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79175696268758516422009-07-30T11:04:34.391-07:002009-07-30T11:04:34.391-07:00The faux-cons are doing some hilarious gymnastics ...The faux-cons are doing some hilarious gymnastics trying to spin this one into a civil liberties issue, as one iSteve commenter noticed of the execrable Ed Morrisey, and I'm doing my duty as a blogosphere hellraiser - a signifying monkey, if you will - to whack that nonsense. These pussies are so skeeeeered to criticize a (half) black man that they paint themselves into corners, making themselves sitting ducks<i> (didja want to go for the mixed metaphor hat trick here? - ed)</i> for yahoos like me.<br /><br />I don't buy it. To the extent that cops are a lot nastier it's because they are dealing with a nastier lot than a generation or two ago - NAMs running wild. How many Crips and Bloods and M-13 type thugs were there in 1963? Very few. <br /><br />The consequences are that as a white man I'm dealing with a far nastier cop when I am pulled over for speeding than I was when I was a teenager. They're ruining our society, in this and other aspects. <br /><br />I'm as anti-cop as they come these days, but I quite liked them when I was a teenager; many of my friends' dads were cops and cops would bust our parties every other weekend but there was never a real problem with them in terms of conduct. That's not supposed to be the natural progression, at least for high IQ white guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69132902772561685232009-07-30T10:45:55.242-07:002009-07-30T10:45:55.242-07:00This is off topic, but there's a headline in t...This is off topic, but there's a headline in today's (July 30) African Sun Times titled- "OBAMA BLASTS REV. WRIGHT" followed by a quote-"I don't know you anymore." followed by "Story coming soon."<br />curious<br />http://africansuntimes.com/index.php?/ast/content/view/full/2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com