tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8162503900933757372..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The latest crises besetting affluent white womenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14974861045814690882011-09-13T07:55:29.765-07:002011-09-13T07:55:29.765-07:00A decade ago, I looked at lists of CEOs and of pro...<i>A decade ago, I looked at lists of CEOs and of professional golfers, both affluent, successful, Republican-leaning. I estimated the median number of children for these men was 3 to 4.</i> <br /><br />You should repeat the exercise with, say, University Professors [Presidents?], Hollyweird Producers, and maybe Partners in major law firms.<br /><br />My guess is that just the presence of the homosexuals alone will screw those "TFRs" all to Hades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39075881804757000012011-09-12T16:28:23.646-07:002011-09-12T16:28:23.646-07:00A decade ago, I looked at lists of CEOs and of pro...A decade ago, I looked at lists of CEOs and of professional golfers, both affluent, successful, Republican-leaning. I estimated the median number of children for these men was 3 to 4.Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80914914592667443122011-09-12T13:39:20.230-07:002011-09-12T13:39:20.230-07:00Some data here on family size and income by state....<i>Some data here on family size and income by state. Steve might find it interesting.</i><br /><br />It's interesting, but doesn't quite address the issue of high- vs. middle-income males, for a number of reason. The main one that it looks at median incomes, so isn't likely the capture the characteristics of high-income families (who, obviously, are a minority everywhere).<br /><br />I waded into this debate because I remember seeing a stat (from the Family Scholars blog, maybe) suggesting that there was this U-shaped curve for fertility and income. I THINK it may have been particularly true of Republicans, but I don't recall clearly. In any case, I can't locate the source.<br /><br />Cennbeorc<br /><br />CennbeorcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16412787991696606702011-09-11T20:45:00.488-07:002011-09-11T20:45:00.488-07:00You know I never bought Sailer's story about b...<i>You know I never bought Sailer's story about being a maligned, economically marginalized purveyor of truth. I think it's just schtick. Don't be so naive.</i><br /><br />Yeah, he's not maligned, not at all. <br /><br />Obviously veritable geniuses like John Podhoretz and other members of the Amen Corner All-Star Team get all the attention on merit alone.<br /><br />SilverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81636439449379213592011-09-11T18:04:12.299-07:002011-09-11T18:04:12.299-07:00My original post was why Steve gave up a promising...My original post was why Steve gave up a promising career as a high-level corporate executive. Few people would do it willingly at a young age to become a (poorly-paid)free-lance columnist. Truth-telling is nice and all, but it is better to do it after cashing in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67012627770970019222011-09-11T15:53:29.747-07:002011-09-11T15:53:29.747-07:00Some data here on family size and income by state....Some data <a href="http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/statemedian/index.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> on family size and income by state. Steve might find it interesting.<br /><br />It follows a fairly flat bell curve. The smallest and biggest families have a lower income than those with one or two children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55746358172705525312011-09-11T15:50:03.325-07:002011-09-11T15:50:03.325-07:00that's not too say that high-income men don...<i>that's not too say that high-income men don't have somewhat more children than middle-income men.</i> <br /><br />It's not to say that they <i>do</i> have somewhat more children either. But let's not get bogged down in details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42489896526003854452011-09-11T11:40:03.551-07:002011-09-11T11:40:03.551-07:00You know I never bought Sailer's story about b...<i>You know I never bought Sailer's story about being a maligned, economically marginalized purveyor of truth. I think it's just schtick. Don't be so naive.</i><br /><br />Would you say he's not maligned? Or that he's rich? "Purveyor of truth" is grandiloquent, but I'd say he's as a generally accurate and insightful as most of the better journalists, but is mining vein that they would never touch. Thus he produces more value than most.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73383057162083760032011-09-11T11:33:53.007-07:002011-09-11T11:33:53.007-07:00I am very liberal in most things, and I still find...<i>I am very liberal in most things, and I still find the idea that a successful man must want to have as many children as possible idiotic.</i><br /><br />Quite true, that's not too say that high-income men don't have somewhat more children than middle-income men. I doubt this has much to do with alpha/beta. More likely, couples in the educated classes typically aspire to have, say, 3 kids but only the wealthier members can afford to.<br /><br />The phenomenon of successful men having multiple families in serial marriages is much more alpha-like (if we're going to use that term), and guys like that can end up with five or six kids. They're rare, though I know two women from first families of such men, and, boy, are they bitter. <br /><br />CennbeorcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27268488094005874732011-09-11T07:41:09.911-07:002011-09-11T07:41:09.911-07:00"When we got to work, the CEO offered to pick..."When we got to work, the CEO offered to pick me up every morning on that corner, but, feeling pummeled by G-forces and whiplash from the ride, I went back to taking the bus."<br /><br /><br />This right here is why we love you.Whitey Whiteman IIInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-35293751885953698102011-09-10T21:18:19.572-07:002011-09-10T21:18:19.572-07:00"You know, Steve, you have never explained (A..."You know, Steve, you have never explained (AFAIK) why you went from a connected, up-and-comer to a blogger."<br /><br />You know I never bought Sailer's story about being a maligned, economically marginalized purveyor of truth. I think it's just schtick. Don't be so naive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79249006864266010742011-09-10T19:24:24.508-07:002011-09-10T19:24:24.508-07:00"He lacked Derbyshire's tact, so he got f..."He lacked Derbyshire's tact, so he got fired from National Review, but he also lacked Ann Coulter's gams, so he couldn't get re-hired as a Fox News infobabe."<br /><br />Yes, if only Steve had played his cards right he'd be where Derbyshire is today, writing for Takimag. <br /><br />Oh, wait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85005501123302229082011-09-10T15:59:28.142-07:002011-09-10T15:59:28.142-07:00You know, Steve, you have never explained (AFAIK) ...<i>You know, Steve, you have never explained (AFAIK) why you went from a connected, up-and-comer to a blogger.</i> <br /><br />He lacked Derbyshire's tact, so he got fired from National Review, but he also lacked Ann Coulter's gams, so he couldn't get re-hired as a Fox News infobabe.<br /><br />PS: In honor of the "9-11" tenth anniversary, allow me to state unequivocally that Ann was dead-on accurate when she said that we should invade their countries, kill all their leaders, and convert everyone else to Christianity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10984265541065820412011-09-10T13:50:50.567-07:002011-09-10T13:50:50.567-07:00You know, Steve, you have never explained (AFAIK) ...You know, Steve, you have never explained (AFAIK) why you went from a connected, up-and-comer to a blogger.<br /><br />What happened? Surely it is possible to play the corporate game for 10 years, make multi-millions, and then blog for peanuts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53990353080831937942011-09-10T13:07:24.118-07:002011-09-10T13:07:24.118-07:00"Me, I never have been to New York City, so p..."Me, I never have been to New York City, so please explain why it's groovy there."<br /><br />You can get a drink any time you want. Other than that, I can't think of anything else...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26987150085363677992011-09-10T12:41:31.167-07:002011-09-10T12:41:31.167-07:00NYC is one of the few places in America (Hollywood...<i>NYC is one of the few places in America (Hollywood being another) where the fabulously wealthy have multiple levels at which to flaunt their wealth. A timber baron in Spokane might go to the same restaurants that a middle class person goes to there, but a wealthy New Yorker can differentiate himself by going to a $400 per person sushi place.</i> <br /><br />So you're saying that New Yorkers are elitist snobs who feel the need to flaunt their wealth? (sometimes even if they don't have any - I know New Yorkers)<br /><br />This sort of obsession with status is anti-American. Warren Buffett bought a house in Omaha in 1957. He still lives there today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-92098751967640326002011-09-10T11:50:06.188-07:002011-09-10T11:50:06.188-07:00"All the comments blathering on about "A..."All the comments blathering on about "Alphas" and asking why they don't have 7 concubines and 200 children is obnoxious. That kind of talk is very anti-traditionalist for a set of commentators that purport to be conservative in nature."<br /><br />I am very liberal in most things, and I still find the idea that a successful man must want to have as many children as possible idiotic.<br /><br />Quality plays a higher role than quantity. Mammals produce fewer offsprings than insects because they actually have to spend some time on all of them. People in civilized nations have less children than those in the third world because they plan for all their children to survive, unlike the third world dwellers who leave this sort of a thing up to chance.<br />Similarly, an upper echelon man will never have as many children as a ghetto gentleman because someone intelligent, confident and successful probably values his seed enough to want to raise his children in the best of circumstances and prepare them for the brightest future. It takes more than DNA and money to ensure future success. Why wouldn't someone who is driven enough to leave nothing to chance when advancing in his field want to supervise every detail when it comes to his children's development? Impossible to do with 12, let alone a hundred.Mayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55386417193404060762011-09-10T11:31:11.488-07:002011-09-10T11:31:11.488-07:00"Muhammed married a nine year old girl. Me, I..."Muhammed married a nine year old girl. Me, I'd settle for a hot eighteen or nineteen year old, provided she was a lot better looking than Monica L."<br /><br />If you were enough of a man to have multiple wives in a Muslim country, you'd be able to have an 18 year old mistress here at home. The truth is that polygamy is your worst nightmare. Imagine that guy who was more attractive, taller, stronger and more confident than you in high school would actually be able to date all the girls that liked him without them feeling wronged and without scorn from society. You'd be completely alone. Forever. Of course, there would be the extremely obese, ugly and sick girl that the top guy literally wouldn't want to touch, not even as his thirtieth wife, but you'd only have a chance with her if the 2nd and the 3rd best male would reject her. <br />Western societies abolished polygamy to help out guys like you. Still, the confident and the gifted men in our culture tend to have as many women as they choose.Mayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44494871452794129282011-09-10T08:58:10.841-07:002011-09-10T08:58:10.841-07:00"Trust me, we don't really care what happ...<i>"Trust me, we don't really care what happens outside NYC."</i><br /><br />Exactly how I feel about Ground Zero.Kylienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23487045623004603092011-09-09T23:50:41.985-07:002011-09-09T23:50:41.985-07:00"What are the advantages of living in NY City...<i>"What are the advantages of living in NY City, aside from huddling there with one's ethnic brethern?<br /><br />Me, I never have been to New York City, so please explain why it's groovy there."</i><br /><br />For the wealthy, it's one of the best places in the world to live. There are world class restaurants, museums, stores; luxury apartments with spectacular views; first rate cultural activities, including theater, dance, music, lectures by famous authors; exclusive clubs and parties where the rich can hobnob with world leaders, billionaires, intellectuals, famous actors and models; avant guard cultural activities (art "installations", pretentious films and bands); and so on. <br /><br />As importantly, NYC is one of the few places in America (Hollywood being another) where the fabulously wealthy have multiple levels at which to flaunt their wealth. A timber baron in Spokane might go to the same restaurants that a middle class person goes to there, but a wealthy New Yorker can differentiate himself by going to a $400 per person sushi place. <br /><br />For the non-wealthy, there can be something of an emperor's new clothes facade about living in NYC. Some non-wealthy actually enjoy living there, but many have to convince themselves they live in "the greatest city in the world", even though they can't afford to enjoy much of the best the city has to offer.Frednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68015312435844371452011-09-09T21:56:07.388-07:002011-09-09T21:56:07.388-07:00All the comments blathering on about "Alphas&...<i>All the comments blathering on about "Alphas" and asking why they don't have 7 concubines and 200 children is obnoxious. That kind of talk is very anti-traditionalist for a set of commentators that purport to be conservative in nature</i> <br /><br />The alpha-worshipper's are hard-core lefties. They're just too dumb to know it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37351819911274989972011-09-09T21:54:49.528-07:002011-09-09T21:54:49.528-07:00A bit of Islamic culture that I'd like to emul...<i>A bit of Islamic culture that I'd like to emulate is taking on a much younger second or third or nth wife.</i> <br /><br />I'd think that the problems with this would be obvious to the meanest intelligence. If I have eight wives then somebody, such as <i>you</i>, has none.<br /><br />Or do you plan on growing women in vats so that they outnumber men by ten to one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78824051567373955622011-09-09T21:32:20.120-07:002011-09-09T21:32:20.120-07:00All the comments blathering on about "Alphas&...All the comments blathering on about "Alphas" and asking why they don't have 7 concubines and 200 children is obnoxious. That kind of talk is very anti-traditionalist for a set of commentators that purport to be conservative in nature.Niamhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23278538174490470872011-09-09T19:46:31.917-07:002011-09-09T19:46:31.917-07:00Correction: last night I posted:
9/9/11 9:40 AM
...Correction: last night I posted:<br /><br /><i> 9/9/11 9:40 AM<br /><br />White people who live in big cities are suckers.<br /><br />The hot blonde wives of the CEOs and hedge-funders manifest this by having 3 or 4 kids. </i><br /><br />The " hot blonde wives" sentence is a mistake, the result of hasty cutting and pasting. I meant to only post the "live in big cities are suckers" sentence.<br /><br />Question for the gent who wrote <i> Trust me, we don't really care what happens outside NYC.</i>:<br /><br />What are the advantages of living in NY City, aside from huddling there with one's ethnic brethern?<br /><br />Me, I never have been to New York City, so please explain why it's groovy there.<br /><br />////<br /><br /><i> So he can cheat with someone who isn't an ugly, careerist shrew?<br /><br />Huh, Bill Clinton. </i><br /><br />I would respect Bubba Clinton more if the women he cheated with were better looking than Monica Lewinsky, who by the way resembled photographs of Bill's mother Virginia in her younger days.<br /><br />As for Islam: yes, Sharia law has its good points. As I understand it, Islam permits a husband to beat his wife with a stick, provided the stick is no longer than the hubby's finger. ( Hmm, which finger? )<br /><br />Bill Clinton ought to set an example of multiculturalism in action, and take a stick to Hillary.<br /><br />A bit of Islamic culture that I'd like to emulate is taking on a much younger second or third or nth wife. <br /><br />Muhammed married a nine year old girl. Me, I'd settle for a hot eighteen or nineteen year old, provided she was a lot better looking than Monica L.David Davenporthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03315090179595817174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67777785769197748212011-09-09T19:22:40.017-07:002011-09-09T19:22:40.017-07:00"Very few men on this blog will admit to them..."Very few men on this blog will admit to themselves or to us that they were just born without the IQ or born without the drive and grit that defined the founders of Steve's market research firm."<br /><br />Being completely honest, consistently tested beyond the 98th percentile, was born with the drive, gradually lost it along the way because frankly, what's the point.<br /><br />The philosophy of man-child 'nihilism' hasn't affected women in the same way because there are barriers to be broken, go where no woman has gone before and humble the chauvinistic males who say women can't do this or that. <br /><br />The cheerleaders of media and academia see to it that they don't falter or suffer a crisis of faith.<br />Destroying the exclusivity of phallic supremacism or planting the flag of the female herd's domination on men's hallowed lands, take your pick.<br /><br />It would have helped if I didn't feel guilty on besting a hard-working female friend in school while I never picked up the books in my spare time, which interestingly, never felt for a male friend(you sexist!) and 'grrl power' could work with sexes reversed.(again!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com