tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8246533505334157006..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: A long-term Sailer StrategyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8043763368243847492011-10-12T14:40:30.621-07:002011-10-12T14:40:30.621-07:00"Sure, they got a raw deal, but the Eastern E..."Sure, they got a raw deal, but the Eastern Europeans WERE FREE TO LEAVE THAT RAW DEAL WHENEVER THEY WANTED. That is the ultimate point."<br /><br />Legally yes. Practically not really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30838315201044137142011-10-12T13:33:45.091-07:002011-10-12T13:33:45.091-07:00Here's another one: switch to the Amero. Being...<i>Here's another one: switch to the Amero. Being part of the same currency would eliminate the driving force for Hispanic immigration</i> <br /><br /><br />Yeah, once we form the North American Union (and that's what the "Amero" means) there will be less Hispanic "immigration". Because it's not immigration when you're moving around inside the one country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17518919997298766582011-10-12T13:31:12.147-07:002011-10-12T13:31:12.147-07:00I'd like south asians to be counted as black f...<i>I'd like south asians to be counted as black for political purpsoes</i> <br /><br /><br />They already are, for all practical purposes. They are already considered a protected minority by the US government. No need to give them any additional government preferences on top of those they currently receive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19104616012059607472011-10-12T11:34:09.368-07:002011-10-12T11:34:09.368-07:00MAR = Middle American Radical (a term popularized ...MAR = Middle American Radical (a term popularized by the late Sam Francis).Dutch Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02687679491743923216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84545920752967477942011-10-12T08:42:25.353-07:002011-10-12T08:42:25.353-07:00"True, but like Eastern Europeans who had toi..."True, but like Eastern Europeans who had toil long hours in factories, they got a raw deal."<br /><br />Sure, they got a raw deal, but the Eastern Europeans WERE FREE TO LEAVE THAT RAW DEAL WHENEVER THEY WANTED. That is the ultimate point. <br /><br />And yes, the Irish were exploited, but there was never lifetime slavery for the Irish. The were 4-7 year indentured servants who upon separation often got a piece of land, and their children were NOT BORN INTO A LIFE OF SLAVERY.<br /><br />"In fact, many were treated worse than black slaves who, as private property and investment, had to be reasonably well fed and taken care of."<br /><br />This is a stormfront myth that I see repeated many, many times over. Indentured servants were "owned property" as slaves were, and were bought and sold. The difference was their period of ownership expired in a short time. <br /><br />If you'll do your research you will find that many slave owners considered the Irish N-s at the beginning, and in fact brought over Irish women to marry them to African males just to take advantage of a law that said that "anyone who married a slave became one."<br /><br />The Irish and Africans started revolting side by side, and in order to quell this, slaveowners established two distinct classes of "servant" and "slave" and the white "servants" were given much better accommodations. I didn't make it up, Sport.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3414839798652883202011-10-11T16:08:54.003-07:002011-10-11T16:08:54.003-07:00Politics is like a game of chess.
Suppose Obama ...Politics is like a game of chess. <br /><br />Suppose Obama is like the King. Important piece but essentially symbolic and powerless. The real power is concentrated in the queen. The queen would be the liberal Jewish elite. Blacks would be like knights, hip-hopping around; one knight would be black music stars, the other would be black athletics and charismatics. One bishop would be SWPL and other would be gays, both very creative. One rook would be Ivory tower intellectauls and other would be blue collar whites. Pawns would be Mexicans--rising in number but lacking in star power; but, if one makes it all the way to the other side of the board, it would signal demographic victory, in which case it can spawn an extra queen, in which case its side will be near invincible. Notice the diversity of the pieces on this side. If used improperly, they can get in each other's way and cause a lot of havoc. But there is a mastermind behind it all--mostly liberal Jews--, and the blue collar, hispanic, black, gay, and intellectual pieces are all brilliantly used in tandem. There is something for everyone. Blacks and Hispanics get something from whitey by sticking with Democrats. Blue collar whites get more benefits and union power. SWPL oddly gain greater privilege & wealth by denouncing white power--just like the communist elites gained greater privilege and power by denouncing inequality(aka more equal than others). <br /><br />The other side is less diverse. There is the King(the great white man)but no queen. There's are two rooks: Christian Right and upper middle class whites. But no bishops and no knights. All in all, there's the King, two rooks, and 13 white pawns--a real dearth of talent. <br /><br />Who's gonna win this game?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70504750452979449512011-10-11T15:53:33.469-07:002011-10-11T15:53:33.469-07:00Some say the original sin of America was slavery, ...Some say the original sin of America was slavery, but I disagree. (For one thing, wasn't near-genocide of Indians worse than slavery? But, you see, people don't point to that as the original sin. Why not?) The original sin was not slavery but bringing a lot of blacks to this country. Even if 300,000 blacks had been brought to this country as free laborers on a voluntary basis, I believe we would be having the same problems, or even more problems since black craziness and aggression had been under control until the 1960s through all sorts of discriminatory measures. Imagine if blacks had been acting like they've been doing since the 1960s in the early 1800s. <br /><br />The real problem isn't slavery but blacks, free or as slaves. If Americans had enslaved 300,000 Turks or Cambodians, we wouldn't have the level of problems we do with blacks since Turks or Cambodians are not biologically as powerful and nutty as blacks are. After the end of slavery, Turks or Cambodians would have assimilated better, and there would have been less white fear of Turks or Cams. <br /><br />Consider that the Middle East and North Africa imported countless Slavic slaves from Europe--often through Jewish intermediaries--, but do we hear of problems resulting from history of white slavery in the Middle East? Do we hear of descendants of white slaves looting and rioting in the Middle East or North Africa? Why not? Because whites don't cause the problems that blacks do. <br /><br />Just look at blacks in France who arrived freely and were provided with free this/that. They are acting just like American blacks. <br />So, the great sin was not slavery but bringing blacks to this country. Lincoln understood this. He knew the slavery was bad and had to be ended, but he dearly wished he could give blacks their own country and separate them from whites. He knew that the bigger problem than slavery was blacks themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78188542875555596142011-10-11T15:53:19.006-07:002011-10-11T15:53:19.006-07:00"Yeah, but they CHOSE to come over and take j..."Yeah, but they CHOSE to come over and take jobs on the railroad, Sport."<br /><br />True, but like Eastern Europeans who had toil long hours in factories, they got a raw deal. They were promised good work and good pay but were pretty much exploited. And let's not forget the Irish who, fresh off the boat, were conscripted to fight in the Civil War. They too got a raw deal. Even if all those people chose to come here, they didn't choose to be treated like animals. In fact, many were treated worse than black slaves who, as private property and investment, had to be reasonably well fed and taken care of. 'Free laborers', in contrast, could be just exploited and disposed of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49184348606799227482011-10-11T14:20:02.066-07:002011-10-11T14:20:02.066-07:00Most studies of Mexicans show higher European comp...Most studies of Mexicans show higher European components than 34% and lower African components than 6%. It varies from region to region, but this paper found a nationwide average of about 42% European, 2% black.Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07327785256936928799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86494486052981373372011-10-11T12:06:24.463-07:002011-10-11T12:06:24.463-07:00...Chinese-Americans suffered enough working on th......Chinese-Americans suffered enough working on the railroad, but we don't have AA for Chinese-Americans at Berkeley and UCLA...<br /><br />Yeah, but they CHOSE to come over and take jobs on the railroad, Sport.<br /><br />"#2. We need to argue that much of the present imbalances are due to natural or biological differences among certain groups. The evidence is in sports. Why do blacks dominate? Cuz they're naturally better. There was a lot of white hostility, oppression, discriminatin, etc against blacks in sports too, yet why did blacks eventually take over? Cuz they're simply better at the biological level."<br /><br />Jody, wake up buddy. This is the part were you educate this "drunk white fan" about how Jacob Hester would be a better rb than Emmit Smith "if he only had a chance"!Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71101888247811613142011-10-11T10:56:57.777-07:002011-10-11T10:56:57.777-07:00A very powerful tool in reversing illegal immigrat...A very powerful tool in reversing illegal immigration would be to clamp down on the remittance racket. Hispanic neighborhoods all have several wire service remittance locations. It's no secret that a great deal of all the money made by both legals and illegals is transmitted back to Mexico, Guatemala etc. The US government actually encouraged this, idiotically seeing it as a means of economic development and international relations, all at the expense of the American population. <br /><br />Illegals can purchase cards in our county that for a small fee allow them to transmit funds to matching card numbers honored by the Mexican National Bank and other entities. One such electronic card scheme was actually pioneered by an academic from Princeton (Poni Card).<br /><br />Most Americans would be incensed to learn that the money paid to illegals is actually sent abroad. <br /><br />You really must explore and expose this activity.Thomas O. Meehanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16387289879023508471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5499906429413069342011-10-11T10:54:39.448-07:002011-10-11T10:54:39.448-07:00"since the GOP is inevitably the white party,...<i>"since the GOP is inevitably the white party, you want marginally white people from places like Latin America and South Asia to identify as white."</i> <br /><br /><br /><br /><i>This has many problems, not least of which is the fact that most of the Hispanics coming to the US are not white.</i> <br /><br /><br /><br />Nobody said that "most" Hispanics coming to the US are white, only that it's smart to break up the "Hispanic" coalition by using the fact that it is actually composed of people of several different races.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20129905021156288592011-10-11T10:28:38.116-07:002011-10-11T10:28:38.116-07:00The difference between the Frum and Sailer version...<i>The difference between the Frum and Sailer versions of the strategy has been that Frum wants to reclaim the Republicans' base of college-educated whites (now Democratic voters), while Sailer wanted to mobilize the MARs.</i><br /><br />What the hell is a MAR?<br /><br />And the Republicans already get the votes of more than 80% of college-educated Whites in the South. You're talking about Northern Whites, not college-educated Whites.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26438017908838786222011-10-11T10:19:59.871-07:002011-10-11T10:19:59.871-07:00Steve, I don't know if you are familiar with t...<i>Steve, I don't know if you are familiar with the book 'On Genetic Interests' by the Australian academic Frank Kemp, but it's filled with much suggestive treacle, very similar to the points you are making.</i><br /><br />That's Frank Kemp Salter. And Salter is absolutely right about immigration and ethnic genetic interests (EGI).ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67439895302432903232011-10-11T09:39:31.689-07:002011-10-11T09:39:31.689-07:00Anyway, Steve Jobs said connect the dots and be cr...Anyway, Steve Jobs said connect the dots and be creative. Similarly, we need to connect the dots of the immigration issue with all the other issues that are directly or indirectly connected to immigration. <br />Think of the connections between prohibtion and slavery/WWI/income tax/graft/jazz age/changing role of women/etc. Some of the connections were unforeseen and unlikely but crucial. <br /><br />Also, people seem most drawn to two kinds of things: moral righteousness and a good time. The issue of prohibition pitted two sides of Americanism: moral reformism vs pursuit of happiness. Teetotalers felt good to be righteous and drinkers felt good to drink. It was do good vs feel good. For a time, do good won over feel good, but there was an eventual compromise. Prohibition was ended but penalties for drunkenness increased. Today, drunken driving is a serious offense, and movies have often depicted drunkards as losers or weaklings, as in Lost Weekend. <br /><br />It seems like the formula for much of TV shows is a blend of do-good and feel-good. Talk shows and judge shows do just that. They offer a rousing time with lots of laughs, but we are supposed to be sooooooo outraged by such shameful display of louts and cretins. This is why shows like Judge Judy is impure. It peddles what it ostensibly denounces. Same with stuff like Live Aid: come and party and feel good but know you're doing good by saving poor Africans. <br /><br />I don't know if anti-immigration issue can be similarly made into a do-good issue and feel-good issue. But with economic fears and uncertainties, this is the time to look for creative solutions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17293750849387022172011-10-11T09:39:12.399-07:002011-10-11T09:39:12.399-07:00"All aspects of this would be hard sells.&quo..."All aspects of this would be hard sells."<br /><br />Maybe. But what happens to be a hardsell can become an easy sell. Watching PROHIBITION, lots of things came to mind. For example, nothing happens in a vacuum. There was a real problem with alcoholism in 19th century America with the rise of distilled liquor, which did for drunkeness what the cotton gin did for slavery. Prior to distilled liquor, most folks drank low alcohol cider. It's like there's a difference between chewing on coca leaves(not good) and snorting cocaine(terrible, and smoke crack, horrible). Civil War dampened Prohibition for awhile, but the victory of the abolitionists led to the spirit of moral triumphalism, and do-gooders sought out another great crusade(just like Civil Rights people now latch onto 'gay marriage' and 'slut walks' and like Cold Warriors found new struggles in the Middle East). People who defeated slavery needed a new big moral struggle. Also, the rise of the women's movement dovetailed with the call for temprance since many women were victimized by drunken men and since women needed some big issue to organize around. Immigration issue also entered the fray, pitting Wasps against Catholic newcomers--and also whites vs blacks in the South. Urban and rural divide also fed fuel to the fire. WWI also played a part, what with anti-Germanism making beer culturally incorrect. Also, German-American companies like Anheuseur Busch lost influence. Then the income tax made the government less dependent on tax on alcohol, which made prohibition more doable. Once prohibition happened, its eventual repeal was the product of rise in organized crime, the great depression and need for jobs, reformulation of what women should/could be(good Christian women to 'liberated' women drinking with men), etc. <br /><br />Anyway, the point is the immigration issue is likewise connected with and functions within the context of other issues. It can thus become moralized or vilified, defended as American as apple pie or as the worm rotting the American fruit, etc. The main moral theme of PROHIBITION was a very Jewish one: immigrants are good and wasps are bad. And of course, it features KKK and the like as anti-immigration forces when, in fact, many on the left(like Samuel Gompers) also opposed immigration. Also, the idea of morally priggish wasps vs more easy going urban Catholics is rather silly given that Catholics were often at the forefront of cultural puritanism in America. Also, the wasps in the West were known for their harddrinking and shooting tooting ways. Cowboy culture revolved around drinking. Just look at the Wild Bunch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45374013358503600532011-10-11T08:44:43.782-07:002011-10-11T08:44:43.782-07:00"Anyway - Phil Gramm shows the extreme danger..."Anyway - Phil Gramm shows the extreme danger of combining a senior politician with an economist (especially a hard right-wing dogmatic one), a bigger recipe for disaster cannot be imagined."<br /><br />Didn't this guy graduate from A&M and/or teach there?smarter than mitchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88278119612863458802011-10-11T06:46:42.004-07:002011-10-11T06:46:42.004-07:00What happens to SS if Herman Cain wins the GOP nom...What happens to SS if Herman Cain wins the GOP nomination?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3108422844759344192011-10-10T20:43:37.568-07:002011-10-10T20:43:37.568-07:00I still think we need a candidate who comes out an...I still think we need a candidate who comes out and campaigns for repealing the Hart-Celler 1965 Immigration Act by explaining how it's destroyed our culture.<br /><br />BTW, one of the main reasons we need so many regulations in this country is because the post-1965 Immigrants don't have the Western Values the pre-1965 immigrants had.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80201812849743668492011-10-10T20:23:36.495-07:002011-10-10T20:23:36.495-07:00Mr. Sailer,
I largely agree with your article, ex...Mr. Sailer,<br /><br />I largely agree with your article, except for one of your strategies:<br /><br />"since the GOP is inevitably the white party, you want marginally white people from places like Latin America and South Asia to identify as white."<br /><br /><br />This has many problems, not least of which is the fact that most of the Hispanics coming to the US are not white.<br /><br />As various bloggers recently pointed out:<br /><br />"According to the CIA World Fact Book, Mexico is:<br />60% mestizo<br />30% Amerindian<br />Less than 10% European (mostly Spaniard)<br /><br />Examining genetic ancestral markers, Rubén Lisker has found lower-income mestizos in Mexico City to be:<br /><br />59% Amerindian<br />34% European [mostly Spaniard]<br />and 6% black<br /><br />These people clearly are not white."<br /><br /><br />Since these people clearly aren't white (i.e. Diaspora Europeans), I don't see what advantage can be gained by lying. In Mexico they don't lie about this -- they call them mestizos, which may make them try to be white even more (e.g. bleaching their skin). But by telling them they're white, why should they even try? And by pretending they're white, it will only cheapen what it means to be white in the US (i.e. a Diaspora European). You don't make a commodity more valuable by cheapening it.Harpernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88260791514092225002011-10-10T19:04:13.154-07:002011-10-10T19:04:13.154-07:00What Steve proposes would be a fine strategy, if t...What Steve proposes would be a fine strategy, if the Republican party were an organization for representing and looking out for the long term interest of the traditional white majority of this country.<br /><br />They are not.<br /><br />The mission of the Republican party is to secure and hold political power for the purpose of representing certain business interests - the defence industry, oil industry, software, and to a lesser extent finance and gambling (well, same thing, really) - certain wealthy individuals, and certain other countries (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Israel, etc.)<br /><br />This distinguishes them from the Democrats - which is an organization whose mission is to secure and hold political power for the purpose of......representing certain business interests (finance, hollywood, and to a lesser extent defence, oil, and software), certain wealthy individuals, and certain other countries (Israel, Mexico, Israel, etc.)<br /><br />Conservatives need to stop viewing the Republican party as a salvageable entity and a potential ally. They are our political enemy, no less so than is the democratic party.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69330909858051995902011-10-10T18:47:22.804-07:002011-10-10T18:47:22.804-07:00Clearly, to promote republican votes, need to prom...Clearly, to promote republican votes, need to promote marriage. Nothing else matters as much, even whiteness.<br /><br />To promote marriage, have to reduce the very great risk that man with assets takes if he gets married.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53266726329207506832011-10-10T18:17:10.081-07:002011-10-10T18:17:10.081-07:00Justin
Bad idea on the Amero. Loss of sovereignty...Justin<br />Bad idea on the Amero. Loss of sovereignty is a bad thing. Dollar devaluation is very bad. Enforcing the border, like most countries, is a good thing. Why should we suffer dollar devaluation and the accompanying loss of power when it is simple to enforce a border?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65468732466053029482011-10-10T15:59:43.376-07:002011-10-10T15:59:43.376-07:00Josh, you mentioned government lawyers and judges ...Josh, you mentioned government lawyers and judges forcing us into ridiculousness with "Disparate impact", Title IX and other crap that we pay for and we never voted for. Well, what we need is a Republican who will fire almost all the government attorneys and replace them with pro-American ones.Jacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30270336005678330902011-10-10T15:39:13.366-07:002011-10-10T15:39:13.366-07:00Steve, good point, and a base appeal to Mexican in...Steve, good point, and a base appeal to Mexican interests would be that continued Welfare spending requires no lower than 65% White, and continued Affirmative Action hereditary privileges and power requires no lower than 65% White, otherwise the temptation is to simply play turnabout is fair play.<br /><br />I'm sure you saw the Post story on Obama being depressed, isolated, talking only to Valerie Jarrett and Axelrod. Like a depressive Nixon.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.com