tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8464327391532843350..comments2024-03-19T02:31:02.140-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: More common sense in Israel, less in AmericaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger98125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67703108163520719602014-02-22T09:08:41.024-08:002014-02-22T09:08:41.024-08:00"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Do you people e..."Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br />Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side of history?"<br /><br />History doesn't have sides. People do. You're not on mine.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90933310300772292052014-02-22T09:04:22.397-08:002014-02-22T09:04:22.397-08:00"Anonymous said...
Virtually all of what we ..."Anonymous said...<br /><br />Virtually all of what we receive from US taxpayers are actually "vouchers" which can only be spent on US-made defense goods."<br /><br />And given that Israel is going to buy US made defence goods anyway, and that the money you save is fungible - it can be spent on anything else - it's a ridiculously good deal for Israel, isn't it?<br /><br />Your protestations are akin to someone saying: "The government gives me a bunch of money to buy food. What good is that?"Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26926686902838761572014-02-22T09:01:35.667-08:002014-02-22T09:01:35.667-08:00Razib Khan on the fantasy that Jews created moder...Razib Khan on the fantasy that Jews created modernity:<br /><br />"Many Jews and anti-Semites are focused on the necessary and sufficient role of the Jewish people in the modern West. In the case of Jews I believe it derives in part from the same sense of national pride which is at the root of embarrassing imitations such as Afrocentrism. But the reality is that Jews did not become part of the mainstream of Western intellectual and cultural life until after their emancipation. For most of Europe this was at some point in the 19th century, and for Jews who did not convert to Christianity it was probably later in the 19th century at that.<br />To put a not too fine point on it, Isaac Newton, Gottfried Leibniz, and Rene Descartes were not Jews. Jeremy Bentham, Immanuel Kant, and David Hume, were not Jews. John Stuart Mill was not a Jew. There were plenty of gentiles involved in the “invention” of modernity, and because of the social constraints placed upon Jews, there were very few of that people of any note before the 19th century in Western public life. The religious minority often seen to be disproportionately involved in the French Revolution were Protestants, not Jews. The exception to the Jewish abstention from early modernity would probably be Baruch Spinoza (I don’t think Moses Mendelssohn would be noteworthy were he not a Jew, while Spinoza would have been).<br />The enormous Jewish contribution to the 20th century intellectual world is undeniable. Jews were critically involved in the maturation and ripening of Western modernity. But they were not present at, or instrumental, in its birth. Therefore, it is ludicrous to claim that Jews “invented” Western modernity. Whether the invention of Western modernity is something to be proud of depends on your perspective, of course.<br />Note: In Catholicism and American Freedom the author argues that after World War II American Jews turned away from the tacit “white ethnic” coalition with Roman Catholics, and aligned themselves with the liberal post-Protestant Eastern Establishment in the incipient culture wars. But the narrative seems to indicate that initially Jews were junior partners in the project, even if they eventually became peers, or even dominant, vis-a-vis the old W.A.S.P. coterie." (http://www.razib.com/wordpress/?p=36607)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27044075358459838512014-02-22T08:14:39.462-08:002014-02-22T08:14:39.462-08:00ben tillman:"Jews played a huge role in Europ...ben tillman:"Jews played a huge role in European intellectual life through the Middle Ages and Renaissance, long before emancipation. Read Popkin, Newman, et al."<br /><br />I have; their work does not make a convincing case that Jews played a "huge role" in Western thought during the Middle Ages and Renaissance.<br /><br />Jewish influence on Western thought comes in two great waves:<br /><br />1. The early Christian period: Paul, of course, is the most important Jewish thinker in Western history.Indeed, one can argue that he was instrumental in creating Western Civilization, as the term only really makes sense after the introduction of Christianity.<br /><br />2. Post Emancipation: Marx, Freud, Einstein, etc.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28553054367008753912014-02-22T08:00:27.975-08:002014-02-22T08:00:27.975-08:00ben tillman:"There's also Adam Sutcliffe,...ben tillman:"There's also Adam Sutcliffe, who studied under Israel. And, yes, they think Spinoza was a key figure, but there's more to it than that. "In short, the Enlightenment came to define itself, Mr. Sutcliffe argues, as the antithesis of all things Jewish." In other words, the Enlightnment was a reaction to the Jewish presence in Europe."<br /><br />Only in the fantasies of certain Jewish and Judeophile thinkers. One of the odd habits of many Jews is to view human history through a Jewish lens, which has the odd effect of making them central figures in everything.<br /><br />The Enlightenment was not a reaction to the Jewish presence in Europe. Jews were not central to the thinking of Hume, Locke, Adam Smith, Francis Hutcheson, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc.<br /><br />The only way to make Jews central to the process is to focus on certain aspects of continental thinkers like Voltaire. Even then, it takes a good measure of Jewish paranoia to reduce Voltaire to his opinions on the Jews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44335685257419020902014-02-21T22:43:14.335-08:002014-02-21T22:43:14.335-08:00Bear in mind that the liberal project was brought ...<i>Bear in mind that the liberal project was brought into being before Jewish Emancipation. Hence, figures like Freud and Marx were working within an already established liberal order.</i><br /><br />Jews played a huge role in European intellectual life through the Middle Ages and Renaissance, long before emancipation. Read Popkin, Newman, et al.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66305727931020929982014-02-21T22:39:13.305-08:002014-02-21T22:39:13.305-08:00That might just stand as the stupidest piece of po...<i>That might just stand as the stupidest piece of political analysis that I have ever read, which is saying something. Liberal modernity has an impeccably White Gentile pedigree: John Locke, Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, etc. <br />The only White Jew who played any kind of role in shaping liberal modernity was Spinoza*. And unless you are Jonathan Israel, it's pretty rough sledding blaming the whole thing on him.</i><br /><br />There's also Adam Sutcliffe, who studied under Israel. And, yes, they think Spinoza was a key figure, but there's more to it than that. "In short, the Enlightenment came to define itself, Mr. Sutcliffe argues, as the antithesis of all things Jewish." In other words, the Enlightnment was a reaction to the Jewish presence in Europe.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58579420666201133152014-02-21T02:26:19.697-08:002014-02-21T02:26:19.697-08:00That might just stand as the stupidest piece of po...<i>That might just stand as the stupidest piece of political analysis that I have ever read, which is saying something. Liberal modernity has an impeccably White Gentile pedigree: John Locke, Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, etc.</i><br /><br /><br />Notice that everyone you named was an Anglo-Saxon or Scot? But there was also the French Revolution, and it gave birth to an opposition that became conservatism/"the Right" that was entirely Gentile. Jews didn't/couldn't play much of a role in politics until the emancipations that began with the Revolution. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10668333328759957702014-02-20T18:35:01.695-08:002014-02-20T18:35:01.695-08:00Anonymous:"Translation via Baron Evola:
http...Anonymous:"Translation via Baron Evola:<br /><br />http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/08/evolas-anti-semitism/<br />(...)<br />In his “spiritual autobiography,” The Road of Cinnabar (1972), Evola writes that following the Second World War he thought it “absurd” to continue stressing the white man’s superiority over the Jew “because the negative behavior [traditionally] attributed to Jews had now become that of the majority of ‘Aryans.’” That is, in an age where the Jewish spirit of liberal modernity prevailed and most whites had succumbed to it, it was futile to exalt Aryan values, for whites, the Aryans’ alleged heirs, now behaved no differently than Jews.<br />(...)"<br /><br />That might just stand as the stupidest piece of political analysis that I have ever read, which is saying something. Liberal modernity has an impeccably White Gentile pedigree: John Locke, Adam Smith, Thomas Jefferson, etc. <br />The only White Jew who played any kind of role in shaping liberal modernity was Spinoza*. And unless you are Jonathan Israel, it's pretty rough sledding blaming the whole thing on him.<br /><br />* Bear in mind that the liberal project was brought into being before Jewish Emancipation. Hence, figures like Freud and Marx were working within an already established liberal order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32993994846396666962014-02-20T17:04:16.235-08:002014-02-20T17:04:16.235-08:00$3500 is, what, ten times GDP per capita in their ...$3500 is, what, ten times GDP per capita in their countries of origin. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-90924922574788433792014-02-20T16:58:01.707-08:002014-02-20T16:58:01.707-08:00"Do you people ever tire if being on the wron...<i>"Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side of history?" </i> <br /><br /><br />... exclaimed the communist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76034789384450516442014-02-20T14:49:27.756-08:002014-02-20T14:49:27.756-08:00Elite white Gentiles are in total agreement with e...<i>Elite white Gentiles are in total agreement with elite White Jews on this point. There is no elite White Gentile institution that favors restricting immigration.</i><br /><br />Translation via Baron Evola:<br /><br />http://www.counter-currents.com/2010/08/evolas-anti-semitism/<br />(...)<br /><i>In his “spiritual autobiography,” The Road of Cinnabar (1972), Evola writes that following the Second World War he thought it “absurd” to continue stressing the white man’s superiority over the Jew “because the negative behavior [traditionally] attributed to Jews had now become that of the majority of ‘Aryans.’” That is, in an age where the Jewish spirit of liberal modernity prevailed and most whites had succumbed to it, it was futile to exalt Aryan values, for whites, the Aryans’ alleged heirs, now behaved no differently than Jews.</i><br />(...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15883292629332758532014-02-20T14:19:00.345-08:002014-02-20T14:19:00.345-08:00I can add a few more ways Israel is different.
1....I can add a few more ways Israel is different.<br /><br />1. The "proposition nation" has no traction.<br />2. Universal military service toughens people up and punctures "noble savage" myths tthat fill the heads of American 22-year-olds.<br />3. The parliamentary system, and the diversity of parties, gives people real choice. <br />4. There's generally a lot of interest in politics. A stealth population replacement strategy, as in the US, won't go unnoticed.International Jewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76722917255701400952014-02-20T11:23:12.115-08:002014-02-20T11:23:12.115-08:00If it's hard, then at a certain point why do i...If it's hard, then at a certain point why do it??? Gaaaaaaah [head hits desk]Sequester Grundleplithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14774325528579641362014-02-20T07:56:25.444-08:002014-02-20T07:56:25.444-08:00Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side...<i>Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side of history?</i><br /><br />Truth has no expiry date.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44738346035276552352014-02-20T06:24:31.157-08:002014-02-20T06:24:31.157-08:00anonymous:"Do you people ever tire if being o...anonymous:"Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side of history?"<br /><br />History has a right side and a wrong side? Funny, I never realized that human history had the moral architecture of a cartoon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91036501876157387432014-02-20T04:54:34.543-08:002014-02-20T04:54:34.543-08:00Yes. But then we go to bed and wake up the next mo...Yes. But then we go to bed and wake up the next morning, refreshed. Next question.Arnold Willisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67421164332334312712014-02-19T23:32:19.128-08:002014-02-19T23:32:19.128-08:00"Do you people ever tire if being on the wron..."Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side of history?"<br /><br />But tonight I say, we must move forward, not backward, upward not forward, and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82130529421292416452014-02-19T23:13:30.095-08:002014-02-19T23:13:30.095-08:00>> It wouldn't surprise me if the sour...>> It wouldn't surprise me if the source of that grant money was the American taxpayer<br /><br /><br />Virtually all of what we receive from US taxpayers are actually "vouchers" which can only be spent on US-made defense goods.<br /><br />I will not claim we deserve it, merely that the Aid picture is quite different from what's imagined.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51360335560554654972014-02-19T22:56:37.612-08:002014-02-19T22:56:37.612-08:00It seems that African refugees in Israel are in ex...<i>It seems that African refugees in Israel are in existential threat, whereas in America they're not. Funny how that works.</i><br /><br />Funny, but simple enough to understand: Israeli existence matters; white existence doesn't. <br /><br />I apologize profusely beforehand if this offends the estimable Art Deco, who is considered a great friend of this blog, cos facts shouldn't be allowed to spoil such a valued friendship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73263013873589444242014-02-19T22:47:55.656-08:002014-02-19T22:47:55.656-08:00Leaving petty economic arguments aside, diverity i...<i>Leaving petty economic arguments aside, diverity is good in and of itself. Diversity is good because it integrates new ideas and cultures into the society. This provides people with inspiration and motivation to develop, grow and change.<br /></i><br /><br />Diversity is pure magic. There's nothing that can't be achieved with the power of diversity behind it. You can even wipe out an entire race of humanity and still record it as an increase in diversity (provided that race is white, I mean).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60745013123255569322014-02-19T22:08:04.039-08:002014-02-19T22:08:04.039-08:00Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side...Do you people ever tire if being on the wrong side of history?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88552471681144928302014-02-19T21:43:42.151-08:002014-02-19T21:43:42.151-08:00"Obviously the platitudes would have to be mo..."Obviously the platitudes would have to be mouthed, but, I estimate there is in reality zero oversight on these kinds of orgs -- as long as the quarterly reports said the money was spent teaching the immigrants to be good little democrat voters, nobody would really look into it."<br /><br />Careful reading of this blog can lead to many entrepreneurial ideas. Now, generally, this won't be the "build a business with your two hands" entrepreneurialism, but...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47837784360928658162014-02-19T21:18:20.313-08:002014-02-19T21:18:20.313-08:00"For a bunch of high-IQ ubermensch you guys s..."For a bunch of high-IQ ubermensch you guys sure seem to lack confidence in yur ability to beat out a bunch of (according to the alt-right) "low IQ peasents."" -we'd rather keep an open relatively non-tribalist society. You wouldn't like the inevitable changes that will occur as a result of using demographics as a weapon against us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82646403870661576482014-02-19T21:07:27.536-08:002014-02-19T21:07:27.536-08:00Israel's elite are mostly Israelis. Our elite ...<i>Israel's elite are mostly Israelis. Our elite are mostly Israelis.</i><br /><br />No, America's elite is partially made up of American Jews, many of whom are sympathetic to Israel. There's a difference between that and being Israeli. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com