tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8477013130634598911..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Last straight man driven from musical theatre industryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17155126308051978772008-11-15T22:53:00.000-08:002008-11-15T22:53:00.000-08:00Isn't it time to censor Hate sites displaying outr...Isn't it time to censor Hate sites displaying outrageous allegations of Money and Power links to a historically <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15marriage.html?em=&pagewanted=print/" REL="nofollow">persecuted religious minority.</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-10031848731588806712008-11-14T20:44:00.000-08:002008-11-14T20:44:00.000-08:00My biggest problems with gay marriage are that the...My biggest problems with gay marriage are that the ceremony itself is often more a mockery of traditional marriage than it is a sincere ritual and that an agenda for indoctrinating toddlers to accept gay marriage whole heartedly is implicit in any law passed to make gay marriage legal.<BR/><BR/>How does a right for consenting homosexuals to say they are "married" or to adopt children give them the authority to determine curriculum content in public schools? It's this more than any religious belief in the sanctity of marriage that arouses strong opposition to gay marriage. Gay activists insist on making their weddings a weapon for ever more social engineering. <BR/><BR/>I don't get too upset about it because the coming demographic transformation will undermine any short-term gains made by these idealogues. Watching them throw tantrums while the very society that makes their lifestyle possible is on the verge of collapse would give me a gratifying sense of schadenfreude if I wasn't living in the same community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52182488018644109312008-11-14T11:39:00.000-08:002008-11-14T11:39:00.000-08:00BTW.. To answer the question asked : Mormons make ...BTW.. To answer the question asked : Mormons make up less than 2% of the population in CA.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17676641685643149677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63876110392828747492008-11-14T11:38:00.000-08:002008-11-14T11:38:00.000-08:00Such irony. I thought it was the gay community ca...Such irony. I thought it was the gay community calling us Mormons (I am one) intolerant? <BR/><BR/>Hmmmmmm.... Actions speak louder than words. I do not see any gay people being fired for opposing prop 8. Nor do I see any Mormon members who voted against Prop 8 asked to leave our church.Debrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17676641685643149677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77582524723287354842008-11-14T10:48:00.000-08:002008-11-14T10:48:00.000-08:00"Maybe gays are worried that such a group of extre..."Maybe gays are worried that such a group of extreme breeders could eventually grow so large as to cause even jurisdictions that now recognise gay marriages to reverse themselves."<BR/><BR/>I can think of another group that will basically run CA really soon. Much sooner than Mormons will have enough kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4716628067736114592008-11-14T07:19:00.000-08:002008-11-14T07:19:00.000-08:00"J. said...The LDS bankrolled the anti-gay marriag..."J. said...<BR/><BR/>The LDS bankrolled the anti-gay marriage campaigns. Mormons were also urged to provide foot soldiers and tithe for the cause."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, and as President-elect Romney can testify, nothing beats the power of "Big Mormon".<BR/><BR/>Mormons are among the most despised sub-group of white people. Conservative evangelicals mistrust them, even more than they mistrust Catholics. Liberals hate them, even more than they hate Catholics. Disliking mormons is, in large measure, socially sanctioned.<BR/><BR/>And it is accurate to describe the gay reaction as a hissy-fit. The whole last 25 years or so, could be called a big gay hissy fit. Starting when highly promiscuous gays served as the primary vector for the propagation of AIDS and, rather than being labeled as irresponsible sociopaths, were accorded an almost sainted victim status as a result. You remember, their affliction was all Ronald Reagan's fault (at that time, to hear gay activists talk about him, you'd have thought that the Gipper had personallly infected them).<BR/><BR/>Hey, if you want to hit yourself in the head with a hammer, fine - but don't claim to be one of society's best and brightest because you then become a "person living with contusions".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36859948906545115422008-11-14T07:09:00.000-08:002008-11-14T07:09:00.000-08:00It's rather startling how many SWPL commentators a...It's rather startling how many SWPL commentators are posting on this very thread.<BR/><BR/>Which only serves to prove that the underlying problem here is nihilism - be it SWPL consumeristic/materialistic nihilism, GLBT hedonistic/sadomasochistic nihilism, Ayn Randian anarcho-nihilism - it's all the same damned thing.<BR/><BR/>And it all ends in Death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-82670074490615592412008-11-14T01:14:00.000-08:002008-11-14T01:14:00.000-08:00I'd like to confirm Hugh Oxford's point about gay ...I'd like to confirm Hugh Oxford's point about gay civil unions being a short-lived fad. In Canada, where gay marriage was imposed in 2005, the number of marriages of lesbians and gays has fallen off drastically. Most Canadian gay marriages are now between visiting Americans.<BR/><BR/>Hard to believe for idealistic SWPL liberals furtively reading this site behind locked doors? Let's go straight to the links and the numbers. Toronto is a city of <A HREF="http://www.toronto.ca/toronto_facts/diversity.htm" REL="nofollow">2.48 million people</A> and is the provincial capital of Ontario, population 14 million.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/jun/07062710.html" REL="nofollow">Only 1 Canadian same-sex couple "married" in Toronto this year</A><BR/><BR/><I>TORONTO, June 27, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Same-sex “marriage” among Canadian homosexual couples is getting less popular, and now the majority of homosexual couples that obtain a marriage license in Canada are foreigners, says a recent report by Reuters.</I><BR/><BR/><I>The city of Toronto, which hosted the claimed "million-strong" annual Gay Pride March on Sunday, has one of the largest homosexual populations in Canada. Despite this fact, however, the demand for same-sex marriage licenses has drastically declined. Last year, the city issued 107 licenses to Canadian homosexual couples, whereas <B>this year it has so far only issued 1</B>.</I><BR/><BR/><I>Even though the overall number of “marriages” has declined significantly, the proportion of foreign couples has increased to two-thirds of the licenses issued. According to Reuters, last year Toronto gave out 924 same-sex “marriage” licenses, and of these, 338 were for American couples and 479 for foreign couples. This year, of the 320 same-sex “marriage” licenses issued, 118 were for Americans and 201 for foreigners.</I> <BR/><BR/><I>The Gay Toronto Tourism Guide claims homosexual persons make up 14% of the city’s population, thereby making Toronto the third largest gay community in the world. Nevertheless, this year’s 1 legal gay “marriage” comprised only 0.01% of the marriages taking place in Ontario’s capital.</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81604434794106295172008-11-13T18:23:00.000-08:002008-11-13T18:23:00.000-08:00The Mormon-gay contretempts (no I am not gay, I ju...The Mormon-gay contretempts (no I am not gay, I just used that word) is interesting because Utah has the highest birthrate in the nation.<BR/><BR/>Maybe gays are worried that such a group of extreme breeders could eventually grow so large as to cause even jurisdictions that now recognise gay marriages to reverse themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-1059586537668713502008-11-13T17:58:00.000-08:002008-11-13T17:58:00.000-08:00Blacks were only 6.2% of California voters. Yes 70...Blacks were only 6.2% of California voters. Yes 70% voted no but Blacks are the sole reason the proposition didn't pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7935181691101699262008-11-13T15:54:00.000-08:002008-11-13T15:54:00.000-08:00Damn, repeating phrases again...Why does writing a...Damn, repeating phrases again...<BR/><BR/>Why does writing and watching my kids at the same time always make me do that?<BR/><BR/>I told someone recently that taking care of small children decreases one's intellectual capacity significantly. Writing with little kids around is like trying to play a video game and hold a meaningful conversation at the same time. No wonder women are mentally better equipped to juggle multiple tasks at once...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48572918497411905392008-11-13T15:39:00.000-08:002008-11-13T15:39:00.000-08:00Marriage will reduce homosexual promiscuity? Mayb...Marriage will reduce homosexual promiscuity? Maybe. But homosexuals enter into long-term commitments now, does that reduce their promiscuity? Or do they just have other partners while privileging the guy they're committed to? Gay marriage might be like that: open marriages.<BR/><BR/>In general, it's not marriage that tames men, but women.Garlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03453366944819816207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46931782133940721852008-11-13T15:19:00.000-08:002008-11-13T15:19:00.000-08:00I'm far less certain that homosexuality is a biolo...I'm far less certain that homosexuality is a biological or genetic disorder, at least that it is always so.<BR/><BR/>It is apparent that children with weak or inadequate parents, particularly fathers, are more likely to turn to homosexuality in adolescence, for complex psycho-social reasons. I think this partly accounts for the pederastic quality of the homosexual subculture, as confused and inadequate boys seek proxy fathers, and predatory older men seek to possess something they also want to be. <BR/><BR/>Of course, because for the most part homosexuality is the disordered in pursuit of the unattainable, homosexual promiscuity, disease and mental illness are unlikely to decrease when the state suddenly decides to sanction it, which is, effectively, to lie to homosexuals about the nature of their condition.<BR/><BR/>Case in point - the UK. HIV rates among homosexuals have continued to increase since the passing of the Civil Partnership Act. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.timeout.com/london/gay/features/3892/London-s_gay_scene_in_crisis.html" REL="nofollow">Here is an interesting article</A> from a liberal magazine called Time Out. It's frank, though quite distressing. <BR/><BR/>The truth is that societal disapproval of homosexuality does as much to protect homosexuals as it does to protect the rest of us. A society that truly loves homosexuals is not one that sanctions homosexuality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-16854439665649767012008-11-13T14:35:00.000-08:002008-11-13T14:35:00.000-08:00Yeah, so what? Whether or not they were necessary...Yeah, so what? Whether or not they were necessary, or sufficient, or outweighed by X or Y, doesn't change the fact that they voted for it in droves.<BR/><BR/>LOL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34453170413573422882008-11-13T14:32:00.000-08:002008-11-13T14:32:00.000-08:00Homosexuality is not simply an indulgence. It is a...<I>Homosexuality is not simply an indulgence. It is a disease spreading necrosis in society. Homosexuals are to be pitied as individuals, perhaps, but their prevalence, attitudes, and agenda must be resisted by a healthy society.<BR/><BR/>-David</I><BR/><BR/>Homosexuality is a brain disorder. It isn't as severe as autism or schizophrenia, but it appears to have a similar origin. Both homosexuals and schizophrenics have a far higher incidence of left-handedness, and the twin concordance for schizophrenia is almost identical to that for homosexuality in <I>both identical and fraternal twins.</I><BR/><BR/>Homosexuality is clearly a brain disorder -- albeit relatively mild. I personally think it's due to chimerism from twinning, and is a side-effect of increased fertility in the human womb, which is only designed for one birth at a time (hence the very high rate of "vanishing" twins). <BR/><BR/>Interestingly, autistic children have been shown to have a very high rate of <A HREF="http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/assets/mosaicism.jpg" REL="nofollow">blaschko's lines</A>, which are a clear indication of chimerism, and usually are only noticeable under UV lamps. I suspect homosexuals would be more likely to have these as well. I guess we'll see when the research comes out, but I'd be willing to bet that homosexuality and other related mental disorders will only increase as people have children at later ages and use more fertility treatment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55195602575848265272008-11-13T14:18:00.000-08:002008-11-13T14:18:00.000-08:00Hugh Oxford,Stanley Kurtz, whom we have called a n...Hugh Oxford,<BR/>Stanley Kurtz, whom we have called a national treasure on this blog, has done the most work on the effect of gay unions on marriages and families. Here is one article:<BR/>http://www.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz120902.aspAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24157021245515361262008-11-13T14:08:00.000-08:002008-11-13T14:08:00.000-08:00"...But may I suggest that labeling it the "Big Ga..."...But may I suggest that labeling it the "Big Gay Hissy Fit" is not going very far in solving the problem of "one set of people feeling superior to another set of people."<BR/><BR/>Never!! To read phrases like "Big Gay Hissy Fit" is exactly why the rest of us have been here! What, did you think we're here because we wanted to read about the history of the men's 100 meter dash in the Olympics?<BR/><BR/>To those arguing over who gets the credit... here in Florida we also passed the traditional marriage law. <BR/> <BR/>There was no Mormon money, yet, in my neighborhood all the black families that had an Obama sign in their yard also had a pro-traditional marriage sign. <BR/><BR/>I saw not a single ad on television for the pro side despite living along the I-4 corridor; in contrast, the gay side ran an ad non-stop.<BR/><BR/>According to the exit polls, blacks voted... 71% in favor of traditional marriage.<BR/><BR/>http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=FLI01p1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89436953545973374912008-11-13T14:04:00.000-08:002008-11-13T14:04:00.000-08:00Now that “Jew atheist” has admitted that a small r...<I>Now that “Jew atheist” has admitted that a small religious (and ethnic) minority can have influence on politics and social policy far out of proportion to its numbers on the ground, I wonder if it is OK to talk about the following...</I><BR/><BR/>Witch hunts, assaults on religious groups, etc - Pandora's box has been opened, and the left opened it...<BR/><BR/><BR/>FWIW, I think Mormon involvement in Prop 8 could have its drawbacks. Inevitably the LDS Church, always a shrewd PR operator, will find some way to "make up" for taking a stand against gay marriage. My guess is that it will be on an issue like amnesty for illegals.<BR/><BR/>Already the LDS Church appoints rabid pro-amnesty zealots to head the media companies it owns. Both the publisher and chairman of the Salt Lake daily The Deseret News are open borders nuts, and the hosts of the local call-in shows on its radio station, KSL 102.7, are, too.<BR/><BR/>The Church leadership has given hints from time-to-time that it supports illegal immigration, but it's never taken an official position. I suspect they might do so in the coming year if they're in need of PR rehabilitation.<BR/><BR/>I actually hope they do. I think a lot of conservative Mormons would leave the Church with tithing dollars in hand if that happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-65124593948130958482008-11-13T14:01:00.000-08:002008-11-13T14:01:00.000-08:00Chris,Where did you get 6% from? This article says...Chris,<BR/><BR/>Where did you get 6% from? This article says it was 10%:<BR/><BR/>http://www.slate.com/id/2204534/Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559830693993775055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22594336769296778052008-11-13T13:47:00.000-08:002008-11-13T13:47:00.000-08:00Marriage means a public commitment to be sexually ...<I>Marriage means a public commitment to be sexually faithful to another person. If all male homosexuals were monogamous almost all of the gay public health problems would disappear.</I><BR/><BR/>For the gays, their "public" is often other gays - a public, I suspect, that won't much care about archaic traditions such as fidelity.<BR/><BR/>On a separate but similar issue - gays and underage sex - take the experience I had at a restaurant where one 40-something gay guy was thoroughly eager to introduce his sub-18 boytoy to a gay couple that had just walked in.<BR/><BR/>A few interesting points on the fundraising side of things:<BR/><BR/>1. Two of the top donors were guys named Alan Ashton and Bruce Bastian. Both ive in Utah. One gave $1 million to support 8. The other gave $1 million to oppose it. The irony? They used to be business partners who cofounded WordPerfect. Bastian was a devout Mormon, until he "came out."<BR/><BR/>2. Stephen Bing and Brad Pitt, those great Hollywood respecters of the bonds of matrimony, both gave significant amounts of money. to "No on 8."<BR/><BR/>3. Much talk about the Utah money supporting Prop 8, but the "No on 8" side got lots of money from out-of-state, too.<BR/><BR/>4. While there is much mention of how much money Mormons gave, there is little-to-no mention of the "No on 8" money that was forcibly extracted from stockholders via contributions from publicly traded corporations, like Pacific Gas & Electric ($250,000) & Apple ($100,000).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26420048892995304412008-11-13T13:24:00.000-08:002008-11-13T13:24:00.000-08:00For the record, "gay marriage" is more a symbol of...For the record, "gay marriage" is more a symbol of a political victory, an ideological boot in the groin for real marriage, than it is something that homosexuals <I>really want</I>.<BR/><BR/>Here in the UK we have something called "Civil Partnerships" (CPs), effectively "gay marriage" by any other name.<BR/><BR/>So far, in three years, 25,000 pairs of homosexuals have entered into one, which, if homosexuals represent ten percent of the population, is less than one percent. Last year, the number signing up actually fell by half. Make of that what you will about the true nature of the gay lifestyle - I think, ironically, they have hoist themselves by their own petards. Which they were probably doing anyway.<BR/><BR/>If the whole concept wasn't so offensive, it would be a joke.<BR/><BR/>Slightly tangentially, it will be interesting to track the fate of societies which recognise homosexuality and give it legal status. Certainly in Europe the most pro-homosexual societies are seeing a population collapse faster than the rest - I think of Spain here, which has only 1.1 children per woman.<BR/><BR/>Which leads to the question, what will happen?<BR/><BR/>Well, if a society simply disappears such that in Spain nobody is actually left, then, obviously, "gay marriage" dies with that polity.<BR/><BR/>But, if it Islamises (which seems more likely), then the khuffar will probably be allowed to keep their sodomy and abortion and the like and accelerate their own civilisational decline. The indicator of this is that Muslims in the UK aren't that interested in getting into the whole pro-life movement, even though they reject abortion for themselves.<BR/><BR/>It would be interested to make similar projections for the red/blue states in the US.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73769235756878174102008-11-13T12:55:00.000-08:002008-11-13T12:55:00.000-08:00"Mormons had a MUCH bigger hand in prop 8 than bla..."Mormons had a MUCH bigger hand in prop 8 than blacks did."<BR/><BR/>So either blacks people fell for the Mormon religious propaganda or didn't support gay marriage. Which is it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79663195086787924392008-11-13T11:42:00.000-08:002008-11-13T11:42:00.000-08:00"The problem with the gay marriage issue is that f..."The problem with the gay marriage issue is that for those of us who oppose gay sex promiscuity, gay marriage is a solution. That is to say tat with widespread gay marriage there should be less promiscuous gay sex."<BR/><BR/>So gays need a piece of paper from the gov't of CA saying they are married to stop them from being promiscous? Why not just have a committed relationship regardless of a license getting issued? People, gay and straight, have been doing that for millenia, all over the world. <BR/>This whole gay hissy fit, and yes that is what it is, is that these spoiled brats didn't get their way and the attention they wanted. Well, they had better get used to it it. The way we are headed demographically, gays won't be all that popular. Maybe they should have thought of that before they decided to support liberalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14408888513259631212008-11-13T11:36:00.000-08:002008-11-13T11:36:00.000-08:00It must be even more daunting for GLBTs to know th...It must be even more daunting for GLBTs to know that their support outside of California and New York is even weaker. Having lived in San Francisco for years I can say that the gay community in SF is a "ghetto". In order to reach a critical mass in population in one area they have depopulated themselves in other areas. The most radical GLBTs move to be amongst other radicals thereby depriving the rest of the country of people who agitate. The rest are locked into a world where there population never exceeds 2%.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89444670611776090082008-11-13T11:29:00.000-08:002008-11-13T11:29:00.000-08:00Every group (except Whites, lately) fights for its...Every group (except Whites, lately) fights for its own, no holds barred, whether with fists or loopy arguments (e.g., two men "marrying" each other is a "Constitutional Right") or both.<BR/><BR/>In this case, the group is effectively-infertile biological perverts, whose dominance would mean the world of "Children of Men" more importantly than it would mean anything else.<BR/><BR/>Homosexuality is not simply an indulgence. It is a disease spreading necrosis in society. Homosexuals are to be pitied as individuals, perhaps, but their prevalence, attitudes, and agenda must be resisted by a healthy society.<BR/><BR/>That these rather obvious statements are regarded as shocking or "hate-filled" is evidence of how far this aggressive disease has spread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com