tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8664721378658706628..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: A city of L.A. gangs and English sunshineUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31708387631571050202013-03-28T14:42:41.700-07:002013-03-28T14:42:41.700-07:00All you gang members should fight the real enemy n...All you gang members should fight the real enemy not each other.fight governments & fight oppression.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44734757251544688492011-08-18T13:14:04.999-07:002011-08-18T13:14:04.999-07:00The problem with kids today is they learn irrevere...The problem with kids today is they learn irreverence before reverence. One should learn reverence before earning the right to be irreverent. But if kids are introduced to irreverence headfirst--via SNL, Simpsons, Family Guy, Sesame Street ugliness, rap music--, they'll never gain reverence for anything. Everything will be a joke, something to mock and laugh at. <br />There are things kids are made to reverent about: MLK worship, Magic Negro, gay sainthood, but this only causes schizoness among kids. Just how do you shake your butt to crazy violent rap while worship MLK as the god of peace? And just how are irreverent people supposed to overlook the truths about King?NLFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52563676549164228852011-08-18T12:51:51.992-07:002011-08-18T12:51:51.992-07:00Let's see, Vancouver has ~500,000 people, whil...Let's see, Vancouver has ~500,000 people, while London has about 8,000,000. So multiplying $4,000,000 by 16 we get...64 mil. That's a lot less than 300 mil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46607475195530417412011-08-18T12:46:44.701-07:002011-08-18T12:46:44.701-07:00"'The damage caused by the riot in London..."'The damage caused by the riot in London is @ $300 million and climbing.'<br /><br />And 60% black, Wow, Steve is right, whites in England are more destructive than they are in Vancouver!"<br /><br />Truth, do you lack basic reasoning abilities, or are you just deliberately obtuse?Georgia Residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41396743385828054992011-08-18T01:57:29.027-07:002011-08-18T01:57:29.027-07:00After being dispossessed during internment during ...After being dispossessed during internment during WWII, Japanese-Americans worked themselves to become among the most successful in America. What a contrast to pampered Afro-Caribs in Britain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67988510639579141482011-08-18T01:55:45.081-07:002011-08-18T01:55:45.081-07:00What a contrast to what happened in London<a href="http://gawker.com/5832083/japanese-quake-survivors-have-returned-78-million-in-recovered-cash" rel="nofollow">What a contrast to what happened in London</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20055580260664922422011-08-18T00:24:08.950-07:002011-08-18T00:24:08.950-07:00This reminds me of the substitute teacher in 6th g...<a href="http://www.euronews.net/2011/08/17/facebookers-jailed-for-inciting-riots/" rel="nofollow">This reminds me of the substitute teacher in 6th grade. Afraid of disciplining rowdy black kids, she picked on non-black kids over relative minor infractions to send to the principal's office. In this case, two white kids who created a pro-riot facebook page get 4 yr sentences while most of the thugs who actually did the rioting will get nothing. Judge says it will be a deterrent, but it will have the exact opposite effect. Thugs will get the message that if you're really tough and rough and burn the city down, the law will not touch you, but if you're a geeky armchair rioter, you'll get the book thrown at you. But hey, the courts found the GREAT WHITE DEFENDENT. It wasn't black rap culture that corrupted the British young. It was a couple of facebook geeks.</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34662136779387168132011-08-18T00:08:26.230-07:002011-08-18T00:08:26.230-07:00It's been said class has mattered less in the ...It's been said class has mattered less in the US because of greater upward mobility and plenty of space. But maybe it also owed something to diversity. Because of blacks, many poor Southern whites decided to stick with richer whites than side with poor blacks (against rich whites). If the South had been composed of only rich whites and poor whites, there might have been more of a class angle thing. Another reason Southern whites rebelled less against rich whites is because of the shared animosity of rich and poor Southern whites against them yankees. <br /><br />And in the North, class consciousness was also stifled by ethnic diversity. A poor Irish preferred to side with rich/powerful Irish than with poor Poles or Swedes. And poor Italian-Americans felt closer to rich Italian-Americans than with poor immigrant Jews or Greeks. Due to the ethnic fragmentation, it was difficult to develop a united working class consciousness--even among the chronic poor or working class. <br />Even now, many poor whites feel closer to well-off whites than with poor blacks--though many rich whites 'spiritually' and 'morally' feel closer to blacks and don't reciprocate the feelings of racial solidarity of poor whites. Maybe one of the reasons why American industrialists welcomed immigration was to ethnically divide up the working class so it won't unite as one. <br /><br />Indeed, unions and political leftism made the greatest headway in generally ethnically homogeneous white states. <br /><br />Maybe UK might follow this model. With increasing numbers of non-whites--Asians, blacks, Muslims, etc--poor white Britons may come to feel greater racial/cultural consciousness than class consciousness. Seeing poor blacks as their main threat, poor whites might prefer to see themselves as 'white' than 'working class' or 'poor'. <br /><br />But what if a poor-white/poor-black class unity does gradually emerge? How could such happen? <br /><br />1. Predominance of black culture--rap and gangsta culture, sports heroes, etc--with which poor whites(increasingly from broken families)identify with(as Eminem did). <br /><br />With black culture as the main culture of poor whites, white guys will act 'whigga' and white girls will have more babies with black men. And black guys will make more aggressive moves on white girls, pushing white guys aside for the choice sexual pickings. Speaking to a white kid from a mixed race community, he told me that he was beaten up by blacks by going with a pretty white girl. Black thugs told him not to go near her again, and so her only choice of date/mate at school are black guys. Anyone who dares come near will get his ass whupped.<br />So, with more white guys pushed aside by blacks for white girls--and with more white girls turned onto porny rap culture--, there will be more interracism. Over time, poor whites and blacks might merge like the Puerto Rican or Brazilian communities. <br /><br />2. Betrayal by rich whites. In the past, white unity was a reality, and rich whites tended to be conservative. They sided with and supported poor whites against blacks. Poor whites were given preference, protection, jobs, opportunities, etc. Rich Irish took care of poor Irish. Rich Italian-Americans looked out for poor Italian-Americans. Rich wasps felt solidarity with poor wasps. <br />Not only is such protection/solidarity no more but white elites today are explicitly and aggressively attacking poor whites for being 'racist' and not mixing fast enough with blacks and browns. Rich whites in NY and other places fume over poor whites in the South and Texas who won't mulatto-ize and mestizo-ize fast enough. White(or Jewish)controlled media, education, and entertainment promote blackness as cool, hip, and wonderful, something poor whites should merge with and emulate. Eminem is to be the model of poor whiteness--merge with blackkness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83981496755380496852011-08-17T22:42:51.409-07:002011-08-17T22:42:51.409-07:00"who cares WHY they riot - the thing to care ..."who cares WHY they riot - the thing to care about is WHAT MAKES THEM STOP?"<br /><br />Total universal control by a one world government, that should do it.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81189027089509935912011-08-17T20:55:49.773-07:002011-08-17T20:55:49.773-07:00who cares WHY they riot - the thing to care about ...who cares WHY they riot - the thing to care about is WHAT MAKES THEM STOP?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60508248158928764672011-08-17T19:35:25.131-07:002011-08-17T19:35:25.131-07:00White reporter makes good points about riots but i...<a href="http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2011/08/riots-goodhart/" rel="nofollow">White reporter makes good points about riots but is so eager to be 'fair' and 'balanced' and keeps back-peddling after making a point. Gentlemanly and polite self-deprecation seems to be a part of white British culture. Blacks, of course, feel no such restraint. </a><br /><br />Do serious people really equate rap with jazz? And was the influence of jazz itself entirely good? <br /><br />As for Afro-Carribeans being angry because of how they were mistreated when they arrived in the 50s... I mean gimme a break. Brits still treated them better than they treated one another. <br />And Chinese and American-indians weren't treated well by 19th and early 20th century Americans, but they are not going around burning stuff. <br /><br />And if you gotta be black to undertand black culture, you gotta be white to understand white culture; so blacks and Jews should not pass judgement on whites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5124324358516912292011-08-17T18:48:24.033-07:002011-08-17T18:48:24.033-07:00Truth wrote:
"Good job! Well the Vancouver ri...Truth wrote:<br />"Good job! Well the Vancouver rioters caused about $4m. in damage -- and of courese Vanc. is a hell of a lot smaller than London"<br /><br />The damage caused by the riot in London is @ $300 million and climbing.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44106625/ns/world_news-europe/t/uk-riots-cost-over-million/<br /><br />Unlike the Vancouver riots, five people died in the London/Uk riots. Including the 68 year old white man that died when he was attacked by a 16 year old black teenager while trying to put a fire caused by the thugs.<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026433/London-riots-Teenager-16-killed-Richard-Mannington-Bowes-single-punch.htmlPerspectivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49181708852235897102011-08-17T14:04:05.803-07:002011-08-17T14:04:05.803-07:00"but I don't want to make any hard pronou..."but I don't want to make any hard pronouncements without a source to back it up."<br /><br />Good job! Well the Vancouver rioters caused about $4m. in damage -- and of courese Vanc. is a hell of a lot smaller than LondonTruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3728330104729609892011-08-17T07:49:06.256-07:002011-08-17T07:49:06.256-07:00Could someone dig up the numbers on the damage cau...Could someone dig up the numbers on the damage caused by recent "white trash" riots like the Vancouver riots versus the damage caused by the London riots, in terms of economic losses and injuries to bystanders? My guess is that the Vancouver rioters were far less vicious and destructive than the London rioters, but I don't want to make any hard pronouncements without a source to back it up.Georgia Residentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4983989652765734402011-08-17T04:35:49.576-07:002011-08-17T04:35:49.576-07:00Oik - that would be the Chelsea Headhunters then. ...<i> Oik - that would be the Chelsea Headhunters then. </i><br /><br />Yes. I think so. <br /><br />The two blokes I was with were both football supporters. One was a Wallsall supporter and the other one Leicester. There was normally a third who wasn't there that day who was a Reading supporter. <br /><br />They all had been involved in minor hooligan skirmishes. Particularly the Reading supporter. <br /><br />Going out drinking with them would always end up at some point with them taunting eachother about the time the Reading ran from the Leicester or Leicester ran from Wallsall or whatever. <br /><br />I found it all very tedious and predictable. It was on one of these occaions that I met my wife. I was so bored I thought I'd go and chat up some birds.<br /><br />The Wallsall supporter was the most intelligent of them all and when the others weren't around he told me that football hooliganism was mostly school playground stuff. He said you'd be taunting their supporters and they'd be taunting yours. Everyone would get caught up in the excitement. Someone would charge at them and they'd run or vice versa. If the supporters did make contact it mostly involved a few badly thrown punches and kicks. Mostly it was all just a bit of fun.<br /><br />However, these Chelsea supporters seemed to be in an entirely different league.<br /><br />One of the things I remember fairly vividly was their eyes. Its quite possible they were all speeding. Being the eighties it was unlikely they were coked up.<br /><br />I'm no psychiatrist, but I bet there was a fair collection of pathologies and personality disorders there.<br /><br />I've talked my way out of a getting a beating on a few occasions, but that was by far the scariest.Oiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2260580176141657252011-08-16T21:23:10.858-07:002011-08-16T21:23:10.858-07:00Compare John Cassavetes with his son. Father made ...Compare John Cassavetes with his son. Father made great gritty tough movies like FACES, HUSBANDS, KILLING OF CHINESE BOOKIE. His son makes the insipid NOTEBOOK. <br /><br />America used to produce men like John Ford, Howard Hawks, John Huston, Sam Peckinpah, Raoul Walsh, etc. And even the Jews of the past were tougher. <br />Now we have as filmmakers wussies, wimps, and dorks like Alexander Payne, PT Anderson, Wes Anderson, Noah Baumbach, and a gaggle of others who were raised in cocooned environments of nicey wiceyness. <br />They should get their butts kicked once in a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45307170620042419832011-08-16T19:48:50.792-07:002011-08-16T19:48:50.792-07:00The recent spate of "incidents" in Engla...The recent spate of "incidents" in England were in fact:<br /><br />A.The tail-end of the Royal Wedding<br /> festivities <br /><br />B. A marketing ploy to promote "The <br /> Planet of the Apes"<br /><br />C. A time-warp back to the Pliocene<br /><br />D. Job interviews for Rupert . Murdoch's replacement<br /><br />E. A backlash at the failure to . find the Higgs Boson.<br /><br /><br />Anon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-25020128267898929452011-08-16T18:04:51.192-07:002011-08-16T18:04:51.192-07:00The ironic thing about this riot is that it starte...The ironic thing about this riot is that it started over an attempt to halt gun crime. In a sense, you could say the riots were originally about the right of black inner-city gangsters to be armed with guns. When you've got inner-city gangs flush with cash, guns are going to get in somehow. Irish gangsters will gladly sell them to the London black gangs. Just wait and see. <br /><br />Britain has been trying to position itself as somehow "better" than the US where this kind of thing is concerned. Now that their minority population has reached critical mass, they're going to have exactly the same problems we do. In fact, it will be worse for them because they can't run off to the hinterlands like middle-class Americans. <br /><br />I'm sorry to say it, but I don't have much sympathy for those sanctimonious British social workers and journos who are still desperately clinging to some fantasy of a multi-culti la-la-land.Billhttp://www.welmer.org/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-83570822525502108022011-08-16T17:13:13.627-07:002011-08-16T17:13:13.627-07:00"A black bloke I used to know who reckoned he..."A black bloke I used to know who reckoned he knew about these things told me that black drug dealers get the blame for drug dealing but in reality they are just the foot soldiers for the white mafia above."<br /><br />Hey Steve-O, you read that; the mystery of Who Causes British Crime has been solved.Truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17286755693955361308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69745293417834377922011-08-16T16:56:51.265-07:002011-08-16T16:56:51.265-07:00Truth - re Cornwall & south Wales - They don&#...Truth - re Cornwall & south Wales - <i>They don't have internet or satellite TV yet. They got the news two days later on tep delay.</i><br /><br />You were joking I take it?<br /><br />About 1992 I was in Cornwall visiting friends and for the first time met someone who worked via the internet, in IT. As he pointed he could work anywhere and was at based in the middle of nowhere in Cornwall. Back then I had barely heard of the internet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69509707030946087532011-08-16T16:48:45.877-07:002011-08-16T16:48:45.877-07:00Oik - that would be the Chelsea Headhunters then.
...Oik - that would be the Chelsea Headhunters then.<br /><br />I was at Uni with a guy who was vaguely connected to them, he wasnt a hooligan himself but he did support Chelsea and grew up around these Headhunter guys and he claimed thay had saved him from a beating once or twice, I suppose late 170s, early 1980s. This was mid 80s when I met him.<br /><br />Thing is I thought he was making it all up until a few years later the police cracked down on the firm and reading about it I realised I recognised some of the names - from my student accquaintance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11852224634665998512011-08-16T16:10:10.404-07:002011-08-16T16:10:10.404-07:00The routes for a clever working class lad to bette...<i>The routes for a clever working class lad to better jobs have been all bust closed off. The jobs have been handed to the daughters of the middle class instead.</i><br /><br />That's an interesting point, that's true to some extent in the US (I guess you mean what we'd call "upper middle class" jobs).beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987548132065830204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-85178206388439277792011-08-16T16:08:03.937-07:002011-08-16T16:08:03.937-07:00Let me tell you a little story...
In the mid 1980&...<i>Let me tell you a little story...<br />In the mid 1980's, when I was in my twenties, one Saturday lunchtime, I was out having a pint...</i><br /><br />I was SO waiting for Tim Pawlenty to play a part in this story.beowulfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14987548132065830204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21987269572859981662011-08-16T16:04:09.266-07:002011-08-16T16:04:09.266-07:00Yup, those Vancouverers, they really wanted to cha...<i>Yup, those Vancouverers, they really wanted to change the result of that Stanley Cup.</i><br /><br />Truth, I will agree that whites can be as violent as any other especially when it comes to organized military mayhem. <br /><br />But here is what I and most on this blog think. Europeans, and Northeast Asians for that matter, have enough average, above average and superlative talent to run successful nations without being brought down by their underclasses. About the only thing that can derail them is the political system they choose to use such as North Korea, the Warsaw Pact and our current cultural Marxist dystopias.<br /><br />If you took the forty million black Americans and gave them an exclusive country, it would not matter if they implemented a republic, a peoples republic or a benevolent monarchy. That nation would not be successful because there would not be enough average, above average and superlative talent to overcome the deleterious effects of the black underclass. They just wouldn't have enough talented people to run production lines, bureaucracies, institutions and other essential services let alone to provide the tax revenue to support the black underclass. <br /><br />So despite the presence of white trash manifesting itself as "Vancouver Hockey Fans" or "English Chavs", Canada, the UK and other Euros would still be able to be first world nations. <br /><br />Therefore, when folks on this blog highlight the black nature of the riots in England, we are not ignoring the fact whites can behave badly. We are upset because the blacks rioting in England did not have to be there in the first place, and are only there in such numbers because of an insanely, suicidal political system that is going to do what the white underclasses couldn't, namely to overwhelm and reverse the achievements of the upper echelons of our socieities. The same can be said about the USA and our massive third world transformation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28496768793023318092011-08-16T15:58:23.052-07:002011-08-16T15:58:23.052-07:00I used to hang out a bar in Chicago (Sterch's ...I used to hang out a bar in Chicago (Sterch's on Lincoln Ave.) that had a lot of journalists, hack novelists and other low-level writers among its clientele.They all had politics like this:<br />http://newimprovedgorman.blogspot.com/2011/08/jerry-lewis-bill-maher.html#c5618910055444106721<br /><i>Ridicule is the only weapon we have left where the tea party is concerned. They've taken over congress. We need to un-elect every one of them. I agree with David Frum (something I'm loathe to do because he created "The Axis of Evil" and told thousands of lies about why we needed to invade Iraq). Can Chomsky point to a single tea partier who can lay out anything but a ridiculous fantasy as a plan for a government as massive and international as ours? I agree with you, Charlie. Rock and a hard place between Obama and tea partiers. I'd go third party but that would just hand the government over to even more racists and anti-scientists and homophobes and morons. Our congress is filled with them now; we don't need more.</i><br /><br />I hope things have improved in the last 10 years. If only Cormac McCarthy had shown up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com