tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8701438176385699863..comments2024-03-15T20:52:26.967-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: In defense of Elizabeth WarrenUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger128125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77863696494035468202012-06-08T12:06:05.194-07:002012-06-08T12:06:05.194-07:00Did Lieawatha mention the Black Tide effect on the...Did Lieawatha mention the Black Tide effect on the Public Ed System?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45028542278771281672012-06-08T09:48:52.833-07:002012-06-08T09:48:52.833-07:00@ Olave
Re: My desire to claim American Indian sta...@ Olave<br />Re: My desire to claim American Indian status for AA benefits<br /><br />Grandma is long dead, but she said she was part Cherokee (Eastern Band I presume).<br /><br />THIS IS VERY INTERESTING!<br />Tribal membership rules vary greatly.<br />Read Wikipedia for Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood and Blood Quantum Laws.<br />Some tribes require 1/2 degree blood quantum, others require 1/32. Some require no minimum, only a direct descendant.<br /><br />So--- What does AA require, tribal membership or not?DirtyTricksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-287350062496094652012-06-08T05:52:30.527-07:002012-06-08T05:52:30.527-07:00Jim Oliver,
Could you please give a reference to...Jim Oliver, <br /><br />Could you please give a reference to your claim. I would find anything that is on a government site and has been peer reviewed to be acceptable as a start. <br /><br />I have found that almost no studies have been done on white students in majority non-white schools. That is where the research should be but is seems to be something that colleges of education will refuse to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68966018249960065522012-06-07T14:05:58.888-07:002012-06-07T14:05:58.888-07:00"The evidence is the good students do well in..."The evidence is the good students do well in the "bad" schools and bad students do poorly in the "good" schools. "<br /><br />Good students get good grades and do well on the high stakes tests when they attend bad schools, yes, but they miss out on interesting learning activities, challenging academics and a chance to satisfy their curiosity. I don't think most normal people realize just how low the standards are in "bad" schools (in order to boost graduation rates) and how much time is spent on discipline. <br /><br />Also, good students in "bad" schools miss out on being socialized into the middle class. In "good" schools, teachers respect their students by having high expectations for their conduct and relating to them as human beings. In "bad" schools, classrooms have to be run military style just to avoid injuries, and students are constantly thanked and praised for raising their hands, following directions, keeping their hands to themselves or attempting work. To a normal child this environment would be highly constricting, insulting, and it would lead to hating school and deep resentment towards authority. <br /><br />Plus, meaningful friendships and learning to act as a part of a peer group would be impossible for a good student in a bad school. He could learn to get along with his classmates, but they would be far, far below his level, so he would never be able to benefit from their input, rely on them, trust them or respect them.Mayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51294303593199870882012-06-07T10:46:18.323-07:002012-06-07T10:46:18.323-07:00The evidence is the good students do well in the &...The evidence is the good students do well in the "bad" schools and bad students do poorly in the "good" schools. <br /><br />Now the good students might get bullied/harassed more in the schools with the bad students (which is what the "bad" Schools are) but that, unlike trying to make everyone more intelligent, is fixable with more supervision.JWOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00004178958481335795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57525656072571499662012-06-07T08:08:17.354-07:002012-06-07T08:08:17.354-07:00A good compromise on the question of the morals of...A good compromise on the question of the morals of falsely claiming to be an Indian demands that you like closely at the wording of the question.<br /><br />If the survey asks if you are Amerind (the term Nei, Cavalli-Sforza, etc. use), answer the question honestly. <br /><br />If the survey asks if you are "Native American" (a term racial Marxists used to tacitly deny that white people can be native to the United States, and to suggest that Amerinds were necessarily the first groups in North America ... not necessarily so with the discovery of Kennewick Man), answer the question autistically. <br /><br />If you were born in a place, you're native to it, right? It's not unusual for an American to be part Greco-Polish and part Anglo-Austrian, right? Where else would that combination exist but the US? <br /><br />We race realists have every bit as much right to determine the meanings of words as anyone. <br /><i>"Native American" means anyone legally born in the United States</i>, as of this moment. <br />Who's with me?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46654923164434101322012-06-07T07:49:25.098-07:002012-06-07T07:49:25.098-07:00"Anonymous Anonymous said...
One of the funn..."Anonymous Anonymous said...<br /><br />One of the funniest things you ever saw around Harvard Square was the 4'10" Reich strolling with Dalton, a 6-foot Amazon."<br /><br />Reich was a real pioneer in diversity - the first lawn gnome appointed to cabinet level rank.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64811563559838487772012-06-07T07:45:06.584-07:002012-06-07T07:45:06.584-07:00One thing undermining the middle-class today is th...One thing undermining the middle-class today is the Fed's 0-interest policy. It's hard to convince yourself to put money away in a savings account for a rainy day, when that money only steadily gains 0.1% in interest - or to put it another way - steadily loses 5+% in value. The banks pay crap on deposits now. They don't need your money - they just get it from the Fed, which conjures it out of thin air.<br /><br />And money saved in 401Ks is not discretionary money. That isn't really your money - it belongs too the government and to Wall Street. They let you know that by telling you what you may or may not do with it, and penalizing you if you attempt to use it for your own purposes.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-712013084362514682012-06-07T05:10:17.664-07:002012-06-07T05:10:17.664-07:00Anonymous said...
"I see that Fauxcahont...<i>Anonymous said...<br /><br /> "I see that Fauxcahontas has sent her defender here to defend her good name."<br /><br /> or maybe Steve, does Ms. Warren read your blog?</i><br /><br />Everyone with an ounce of credibility does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30333687101446289632012-06-07T03:17:26.535-07:002012-06-07T03:17:26.535-07:00I'm 1/32nd "Seminole", whatever that...I'm 1/32nd "Seminole", whatever that means. The bigoted side of the family insists it means American Indian Princess, whichiswhat she attempted to pass for in late 1800's Jacksonville. The open minded side of the family claims it means Runaway Slave. The Census records record the woman in question as "black". Actual photographs of her show a tan skinned lady with straight dark hair. If you looked at my grandma, mom, brother and I you'd never know - tall, fair skinned, blonde-red, blue eyes. My aunt on the other hand, medium build, dark tan skin, straight black hair, brown eyes, barely looked white.<br /><br />When I was living in Lexington, MA in the late 1990's the VP at our all white firm claimed Native American status. Diversity in Contracting, dontcha know. I think he was 1/32nd Mohawk or something. We used to laugh at the stupidity of it all, but it was perfectly legal and valid. There were cases discussed in the press in the 1990's of contractors in Oklahoma and Colorado who were blond and blue eyed claiming American Indian ancestry of 1/16th to 1/64th being permitted to use that ancestry for AA purposes and winning contracts because of it. It may seem ridiculous now, butit was perfectly legal then.Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-11733681937962032492012-06-06T20:59:31.038-07:002012-06-06T20:59:31.038-07:00I don't really care about Elizabeth Warren but...I don't really care about Elizabeth Warren but agree that the relevant point is that it's highly unlikely she would lift a finger to do anything about affirmative action. <br /><br />I do object to the various anon's on here asserting that most "founding stock" Americans likely have some Indian ancestry. Do Anon 1-1X have any evidence to back this up? My ancestors on my father's side came here in the late 1600's (New York, then PA where one was the owner and rower of own of the boats used to ferry Washington's army across the Delaware, then into N. Carolina and eventually Western Tennessee, all served in the CSA during the War of Northern Aggression and rejoined the empire in time to fight and die in WW1, WW2, Korea, and Vietnam) and on my mother's side in the early 1800's and not only have I never heard one word of Injun ancestry, the surviving photos we have (going back to before the War of NA) look like well, a bunch of people from the British Isles. <br /><br />And given that lengthy history in America, it outrages me that my children have to let somebody else cut in line because of their skin color or claims to whatever the f**k heritage. To hell with Elizabeth Warren. Scott Brown too..Otis McWrongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23219403954421710422012-06-06T19:32:48.974-07:002012-06-06T19:32:48.974-07:00In both cities you can find a single family house ...<i>In both cities you can find a single family house on a quarter acre of land in a non diverse non vibrant school district for only $200k <br /><br />With today's low mortgage rates, the mortgage on that $200k house will cost you only $900 a month. </i><br /><br />Of course, your lender will require you to pay taxes and insurance, which bumps the cost up to $1550 or so.ben tillmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59395851062442822822012-06-06T19:26:42.441-07:002012-06-06T19:26:42.441-07:00It's a white woman so incompetent and unqualif...It's a white woman so incompetent and unqualified that she had to rely on the ass-pull of an imaginary Indian princess ancestor to get anywhere vs. a white guy who got in on charisma and merit. <br /><br />I'd pick the white guy in a heartbeat. Raging incompetents do much worse when handed levers of power, so go with the qualified white guy instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40237302299748302012-06-06T19:25:26.153-07:002012-06-06T19:25:26.153-07:00"Anonymous said...
Who is the idiot play..."Anonymous said...<br /><br /> Who is the idiot playing contrarian on this thread? So we're supposed to take Warren at her word, or rather at her family's word, that she has an Indian ancestor several generations back, despite no proof existing of this, and honor her as a "woman of color"?"<br /><br />- I think the Harvard libs already made the choice to honor it for you. These types make far too many choices in this country. But we could throw a major monkey wrench in the AA system, if we all started to claim a minority ancestor with no evidence, like Warren. The system (except for Native Americans) is set up to encourage this sort of thing, to jack up the number in the minority camp. So we could all claim it, dilute out the impact of the benefits, and not only that, throw major monkey wrenches into the various constituencies, media, etc - when mysteriously, large numbers of 'African Americans' started to vote for Tancredo. It would force Eric Holder's conversation in a direction he doesn't want to go. What is a minority? Why does someone who claims to be 1/32 Cherokee heir to the benefits of a Native American, while someone with 1/8th Cherokee ancestry, living as a white American, subject to discrimination as a white?Regnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52532778698133912572012-06-06T19:25:25.752-07:002012-06-06T19:25:25.752-07:00Falkenstein isn't an idiot, and doesn't ca...Falkenstein isn't an idiot, and doesn't carry water for any TBTF Wall Street firms. His weakness, IMO, is in putting too much faith in the ability of the poor to raise themselves up by their boot straps by dint of will power and self discipline. And in ignoring macro factors weighing on the poor and working class (e.g., outsourcing, unbalanced trade, competition with illegals).DaveinHackensackhttp://www.thehackensack.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-62715818815419617742012-06-06T18:34:39.228-07:002012-06-06T18:34:39.228-07:00Lost in Enemy Territory:
They believe every word...Lost in Enemy Territory: <br /><br /><i>They believe every word of their world view. Every. Word. No exceptions.</i><br /><br />Their mating choices and real estate market behaviour shows that it's not true though.Nanonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86544329053277900012012-06-06T18:24:36.481-07:002012-06-06T18:24:36.481-07:00A person who is 1/32nd Cherokee
It's been men...<i>A person who is 1/32nd Cherokee</i><br /><br />It's been mentioned before but bears repeating: 1/32 of Cherokee ancestry, even if real, may very well be comparable or lower than Neanderthal ancestry on the level of DNA (2-4% in Europeans). Claiming any special status based on 1/32 is totally absurd. At this level, I have aboriginal ancestry from all continents excluding Australia. And I am white.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68867148255484916572012-06-06T17:53:51.343-07:002012-06-06T17:53:51.343-07:00Anonymous: Was his mother's maiden name Soto?...Anonymous: Was his mother's maiden name Soto? <br /><br />Other Anonymous: Okay, I get that she was probably full of shit wrt claiming to have Indian ancestry, or at least guessing without much evidence. But why should I care about that? I mean, suppose she just made it up to game the AA system. I'm missing why I ought to feel upset about that, since I think AA is a force for evil in the world. <br /><br />What matters to me is, if she comes to a position of power, what she is likely to do there. Probably, she will be a pretty standard politician, with all the bad that implies. But I can't see why her having claimed to be an Indian will make her any worse. She has actually stood up to big financial companies, in some small way--something damned few public figures are willing to do. She does seem to have some concern for people who weren't born with +4 sigma IQs and trust funds, which is kinda refreshing. <br /><br />My not-too-informed guess is that she will be marginally better than her opponent. And if she's worse, it will be because of her beliefs or connections or something, not because of whether she once claimed to be an Indian, called someone Macaca, referred to New York as Hymietown, didn't inhale, bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia, or whatever other idiotic non-issue some empty-headed journalist is now pretending matters. Deciding elections on the basis of stupid shit like this is like choosing a doctor on the basis of whether you like how he does his hair. <br /><br />What will she do in power, if she gets it? That's the only thing that matters. Mini scandals that don't bear on that are utterly irrelevant.NOTAnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18172519267573691492012-06-06T17:41:22.201-07:002012-06-06T17:41:22.201-07:00Is there a DNA test specific enough to prove I can...<i>Is there a DNA test specific enough to prove I can claim an AA category? This may sound crazy, but I'm serious.</i> - D. Tricks<br /><br />Dear Dirty,<br /><br />If I were you I would just go ahead and claim the ancestry and take the AA benefits. Is your grandmother alive, and of sound mind? If so, get a recorded statement from her. You could also pay for a genealogical study, that might turn something up. <br /><br />But in general, I don't think you need to prove you're Amerind to get the benefits. I've never heard of DNA being used for such a thing. You just have to claim. If you later run for high office, it may bite you in the behind; I'm just assuming you have no such plans. (Correct me if I'm wrong.)B322https://www.blogger.com/profile/18257802768718375656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-46519951744124187752012-06-06T17:03:02.889-07:002012-06-06T17:03:02.889-07:00"Elizabeth Warren has no Indian background, l..."Elizabeth Warren has no Indian background, link here. Hotair and Ace of Spades have covered this exhaustively, because it is so laughable. She's about as Indian as I am Black.<br /><br />Sorry bub, that link only says that a document that someone (else) relied on for her ancestry does not exist.<br /><br />Warren herself stands by the position that she has Native American heritage. It's not laughable at all. In fact, it's highly plausible that a traditional American with roots in this country going back several centuries would have some Indian ancestry. More likely than not even"<br /><br />So, what's your point? That someone who cannot produce a shred of tangible evidence (old stories don't count as tangible evidence) can get AA benes merely by proclaiming that someone in their family told them they had an hispanic, black, or native american ancestor many many years ago?<br /><br />That's a standard that virtually every person in the world can meet, no?<br /><br />So, in other words, everyone is entitled to AA benes potentially, no?<br /><br />The Native American Indian tribes, who strictly regulate enrollment, don't seem to agree with your view or Ms. Fauxcahontas. <br /><br />I wonder why.<br /><br />Given how screwed up your logic is it's hard for me to tell if you are for AA or against it as unworkable and impractical because everyone and anyone is potentially entitled to it. <br /><br />All they need is a desire to "game" the system and a willingness to claim that someone once told them they had such and such an ancestor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27935257951215231952012-06-06T17:02:24.693-07:002012-06-06T17:02:24.693-07:00All this talk of American Indians and AA gravy tra...All this talk of American Indians and AA gravy train is making me salivate.<br />As a southern white man mixture of Scottish-German with a tiny amount of American Indian (so my grandmother said), how can I get some affirmative action? Seriously.<br /><br />Is there a DNA test specific enough to prove I can claim an AA category? This may sound crazy, but I'm serious.<br /><br />IIRC long ago a Ford employee changed his name from Anglo to Hispanic but don't remember why. Again IIRC he then got an employment advantage. Was he adopted? I Googled but found nothing.DirtyTricksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34717947171782670372012-06-06T16:59:04.801-07:002012-06-06T16:59:04.801-07:00Who is the idiot playing contrarian on this thread...Who is the idiot playing contrarian on this thread? So we're supposed to take Warren at her word, or rather at her family's word, that she has an Indian ancestor several generations back, despite no proof existing of this, and honor her as a "woman of color"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7594951506814997552012-06-06T16:52:44.807-07:002012-06-06T16:52:44.807-07:00It's interesting to note that Revilo Oliver wa...It's interesting to note that Revilo Oliver was for many years in the Department of Spanish and italian at UI Urbana. I doubt La Raza would have approved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44919357278419040892012-06-06T15:28:53.936-07:002012-06-06T15:28:53.936-07:00Elizabeth Warren has no Indian background, link he...<i>Elizabeth Warren has no Indian background, link here. Hotair and Ace of Spades have covered this exhaustively, because it is so laughable. She's about as Indian as I am Black.</i><br /><br />Sorry bub, that link only says that a document that someone (else) relied on for her ancestry does not exist.<br /><br />Warren herself stands by the position that she has Native American heritage. It's not laughable at all. In fact, it's highly plausible that a traditional American with roots in this country going back several centuries would have some Indian ancestry. More likely than not even.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56238502318775376462012-06-06T14:23:59.225-07:002012-06-06T14:23:59.225-07:00@ JSM
Being part American Indian is added diversit...@ JSM<br />Being part American Indian is added diversity, more vibrant if you will.<br /><br />Here's a related true story.<br />20+ years ago, I attended a lecture by Mark Smith-Soto, a professor of romance languages (Spanish) at UNC Greensboro. During informal conversation, he said his name originally was Mark Smith. But as a Spanish professor, that was too caucasion sounding, so he added -Soto. I honestly don't recall if Soto was a close or distant family surname. <br /><br />True story! Google him. Mark Smith-Soto UNCGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com