tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8731831315769848178..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: Tough questionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63422960433768627352013-10-01T12:14:45.110-07:002013-10-01T12:14:45.110-07:00Why is Sailer far less known even among white cons...Why is Sailer far less known even among white cons than are David Brooks and Malcolm Gladwell? <br /><br />Why is American Renaissance banned from holding conferences in most cities and towns? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69999112956858978042013-09-28T14:52:58.965-07:002013-09-28T14:52:58.965-07:00Ah, the existential plight of Camus's hometown...Ah, the existential plight of Camus's hometown repAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64233930721312861842013-09-28T12:37:13.287-07:002013-09-28T12:37:13.287-07:00He knew little of Hinduism ,Islam,Buddhism or Sikh...<i>He knew little of Hinduism ,Islam,Buddhism or Sikhism</i><br /><br />Or, for that matter, Nestorian Christianity.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-50938906908587816992013-09-27T15:21:58.729-07:002013-09-27T15:21:58.729-07:00"No ,the British were in a country they had a..."No ,the British were in a country they had absolutely zero business being in."<br /><br />That's what I always thought. THey had no business there.<br />Except it was "just business." They weren't there to make a New England; it was a business take over by the City of London in the late 1600s. Britain's interaction with India was purely mercenary, in the beginning. As some of them had to live there, some of the customs began to get on their nerves, and they did pass some legislation but that was not always a bad thing. A few of them did care because of that blasted altruism some northern people are afflicted with.<br />The Indians fared a lot better with the English than the "Indians" of the western hemisphere fared with the Spanish.<br />In the end, you got rid of the British, but the British will never get rid of the Indians.blinkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84797565764630956172013-09-27T09:11:58.051-07:002013-09-27T09:11:58.051-07:00"The British residents of India were largely ...<br />"The British residents of India were largely a thin red line of soldiers and officials."<br /><br />Exactly, and they resided overwhelmingly in Calcutta, Bombay, and Delhi. India was simply too vast, populated, and harsh to support large-scale British settlement."<br /><br />Not to mention Chennai as well as Kashmir,Shimla and Ooty in the summers. Anyway this is true.<br /><br />The reason the British were able to rule so many with so few were <br />1. divide et impera<br />2. A good number of collaborators due to 1<br />3. Demartializing a good swathe of the populace such as Nairs,Marathas,Reddys,Poligars,Biharis and martializing or maintaining the military habis of Sikhs,Punjabi Muslims,Baluchi,Jats,Gurkhas and use them to their advantage<br /><br />My grandmother who lived in the countryside wasnt aware that a foreign power ruled the country until she got married to a man from the city<br />This was apparently not uncommon.<br /><br />Somewhat OT<br />Mumbai,Delhi,Calcutta and Chennai, the four major cities of India associated with British rule happen to have absolutely horrid weather. Except for Delhi all are mostly hot and humid(though Calcutta can get rather pleasant in the winter) and Delhi has an oppressive Central Asian summer style dry heat<br /><br />There are many places in India with very pleasant weather even in summer but due to the major international airports and business hubs in these cities(which are also quite dirty), foreingers associate India with tremendous heat and squalor though it is not the case across other cities in the country<br />Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52119049532788002262013-09-27T09:03:46.896-07:002013-09-27T09:03:46.896-07:00@el supremo
You are right about Turkey preserving...@el supremo<br /><br />You are right about Turkey preserving the ancient structures associated with classical civilizations probably a lot better than how Greece treats hers.<br /><br />However it is entirely out of a sense of tolerance and magnanimity. <br />Like Israel which devours and coopts Palestinian culture and cuisine as presents as its own(many Europeans apparently believe falafel and shwarma as well as the debka- A Palestian folkdance are Israeli), similarly Turkey believes those responsible for the civilization were a sort of proto Turks and they attritube to this vague ethnic group everything from the Trojans,Ionians,ancient Kurds(even today they are called mountain Turks") and Cappadocians.<br /><br />In a way, they are doing something what all conquering cultures have always done-take the defeated's woman,wealth,gods(either coopt them or turn them into demons),lands and now history.<br />After history is written by the victors but the Turkish nationalist efforts are too little too late. No one is falling for their lame propagandaDr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17027785176327511572013-09-27T08:57:06.987-07:002013-09-27T08:57:06.987-07:00Why is Freddie Mercury a stranger in his native Za...Why is Freddie Mercury a stranger in his native Zanzibar?"<br /><br />Actually he is a Parsi from India domiciled in Zanzibar. But many Indians didnt quite acknowledge him as their own as he was of the ghey!<br /><br />Only a few years after his death did Indians actually begin cautiously to start claiming he was one of them<br /><br />But still the founder of Chipndales Somen Banerjee doesnt get much mention in Indian American Newsletters...<br /><br />Orwell however is pretty popular with the Indian literati and they take some pride in his birth in India and often approvingly quote his works due to his anti imperialism and pseudo socialism and the house he was born in has been preserved as some kind of museum but that is more to British efforts than Indian I believe.Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-57222634069705584642013-09-27T08:52:06.181-07:002013-09-27T08:52:06.181-07:00Kipling isnt really popular in India apart from hi...Kipling isnt really popular in India apart from his work The Jungle Book. But even that is really popular only because of the Disney movie<br /><br />All in all his lack of popularity is due to his lack of understanding of India. What I read of Kipling, he didnt seem to know much Indian history. If he did he wouldnt concentrate so much on the invasion by Alexander which is really a footnote in Indian history.<br /><br />He knew little of Hinduism ,Islam,Buddhism or Sikhism or the interplay over the years.<br /><br />He very much like the sensory overload that India offered with its bustling bazaars ,spices,drugs and brothels<br /><br />In the end , he didnt get India so India doesnt care for him and never the twain shall meet.Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41012470648356600282013-09-27T08:46:22.082-07:002013-09-27T08:46:22.082-07:00Glossy said...
"Like the French in Algeria, t...Glossy said...<br />"Like the French in Algeria, the British were colonial rulers who looked down upon, and despised, the "natives" (I put the word in quotes because this is a pejorative in India)."<br /><br />Neither the British class system nor old European racial theorizing came anywhere close to the level of hatred that's normal in the Indian caste system. In looking down on others the Brits were amateurs. Have you seen this map? <br /><br />DVN:This argument was and remains morally dubious and intellectually bankrupt<br /><br />Yes ,Indians had a stern and often cruel social structure.How exactly did that concern the British?<br />The issue wasnt that Indians in UK complaining of British racism and claiming that theirs is a more open society.If that was the case you statements wouldve been valid<br />No ,the British were in a country they had absolutely zero business being in<br />And no Whiskey you clown railways,killing thuggees and ending sati couldve been by Indians themselves<br />1.Hire foreign engineers to build railways<br />2.Thuggees and sati didnt exist since time immemorial.Sati on this scale and style(involuntary) was a relatively recent concept introduced after Central Asian invaders became Hindus and retained and spread these customs.Hindu women also initially were enthuastic about Self immolation as it spared them the dishonor of slavery and rape by Muslims<br /><br />The British were certainly not amateurs when it came to exploiting and excarbating caste differences for their own advantage. If you had an ounce of decency ,curiosity and intellectual integrity you would think twice before praising British egalitarianism<br /><br />"They lived in segregated enclaves with no interaction with the locals other than their help."<br /><br />Ha! Indians pioneered the concept of untouchability. "<br /><br />DVN:Ha! So bloody what? How is that your concern, unless the Indians conquered British Isles and turned the inhabitants into lower castes and demartialized them(the British did both in effect to Indians) how does that concern you?Dr Van Nostrandnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36451757295091605452013-09-27T05:40:17.384-07:002013-09-27T05:40:17.384-07:00As with that Hispanics-in-tennis article, the cont...As with that Hispanics-in-tennis article, the content is more intelligent than the headline. The opening line "The Hotel El-Djazair, formerly known as the Hotel Saint-George," shows that the author knows what's going on.<br /><br /><br />James Kabalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02335302113772004687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18313093147630458972013-09-27T04:07:15.590-07:002013-09-27T04:07:15.590-07:00You can include Cliff Richard and Joanna Lumley wi...You can include Cliff Richard and Joanna Lumley with George Orwell. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70086376743765123582013-09-26T23:32:27.355-07:002013-09-26T23:32:27.355-07:00¿Por qué es mcCain un extraño en su Panamá natal? ...¿Por qué es mcCain un extraño en su Panamá natal? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33007417278763229072013-09-26T19:41:30.797-07:002013-09-26T19:41:30.797-07:00Camus was a white Hispanic.Camus was a white Hispanic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-881378787186281792013-09-26T18:39:54.614-07:002013-09-26T18:39:54.614-07:00"The British residents of India were largely ..."The British residents of India were largely a thin red line of soldiers and officials."<br /><br />Exactly, and they resided overwhelmingly in Calcutta, Bombay, and Delhi. India was simply too vast, populated, and harsh to support large-scale British settlement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77392229430832842042013-09-26T18:14:47.195-07:002013-09-26T18:14:47.195-07:00Like the French in Algeria, the British were colon...<i>Like the French in Algeria, the British were colonial rulers who looked down upon, and despised, the "natives" (I put the word in quotes because this is a pejorative in India). They lived in segregated enclaves with no interaction with the locals other than their help.</i><br /><br />The British residents of India were largely a thin red line of soldiers and officials. Algeria was a settlement colony with over a million abiding colonists, or 12 % of the population.Art Decohttp://wwrtc.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3526139401364314522013-09-26T18:12:05.927-07:002013-09-26T18:12:05.927-07:00I believe the Arabs gave the French a choice: The ...<i>I believe the Arabs gave the French a choice: The suitcase or the coffin.</i><br /><br />I think that was a mordant pledge among the <i>pieds noirs</i> themselves, not a political program of the NLF. The Jews were expelled from Algeria in the Spring of 1962. The pieds noirs largely left of their own accord; the 30,000 who remained behind were not massacred. Art Decohttp://wwrtc.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48459199908568776622013-09-26T17:40:09.262-07:002013-09-26T17:40:09.262-07:00@Chubby Ape:
Fair enough, though note that the Fr...@Chubby Ape:<br /><br />Fair enough, though note that the French didn't revoke this decree. And you have to agree there is a general pattern of recruiting minorities among colonialists. For example, the French preferred to use Berbers as native officials, rather than Arabs, and this is one root of the post-independence marginalization of Berbers in Algeria and elsewhere in North Africa.jgresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03287009809340785879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49427637050586421042013-09-26T17:33:26.065-07:002013-09-26T17:33:26.065-07:00Why was King George a stranger in America after th... Why was King George a stranger in America after the Revolution? Because his vastly outnumbered people lost. Camus, in typical intellectual fashion, thought that the pied noir could live in peace with the Muslims. Of course, he feared for his own family but he never said: "we conquered this land and the Muslims can leave." That is the only position that would have saved his memory in Algeria. The Muslims never had any intention of living with the pied noir at all. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52512508058520239502013-09-26T16:39:13.742-07:002013-09-26T16:39:13.742-07:00Whiskey wrote:
"Indians preferred to be badly...Whiskey wrote:<br />"Indians preferred to be badly ruled by their own elites than well ruled by foreigners."<br /><br />And this makes Indians different from, oh, everyone else on the planet - how? Another brilliant bit of insight from Whiskey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76415314707522758042013-09-26T16:33:36.894-07:002013-09-26T16:33:36.894-07:00"This is about 8/10ths off topic but I though..."This is about 8/10ths off topic but I thought it'd interest some people here:<br /><br /><br />David Gilmour 'not interested' in teaching on women authors<br />David Gilmour's course is 'middle-aged male writers taught by a middle-aged man'<br />...<br />Gilmour says, “[w]hat I teach is guys. Serious heterosexual guys. F. Scott Fitzgerald, Chekhov, Tolstoy. Real guy-guys. Henry Miller. Philip Roth.""<br /><br />Wow, I never knew that the Pink Floyd frontman had such an interest in literature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77511288444694205942013-09-26T16:30:53.591-07:002013-09-26T16:30:53.591-07:00"Why is John Kay of Steppenwolf a stranger in..."Why is John Kay of Steppenwolf a stranger in his native Kaliningrad Oblast?"<br /><br />Wow, you learn something new all the time, especially on this most eclectic site. Just looked at the wiki on Mr. Kay. Quite amazing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-77148475710160201552013-09-26T16:24:41.864-07:002013-09-26T16:24:41.864-07:00jgress said...
It's interesting that the ...<i>jgress said...<br /><br /> It's interesting that the article mentions how the Vichy authorities withdrew French citizenship from Algerian Jews, without mentioning that it was the same French colonial authorities who granted citizenship to native Algerian Jews, but not to native Algerian Muslims, in the first place. It was a typical colonialist tactic of recruiting minorities, of course. Let's see, what did happen to these Jews after independence? Of course, they were all expelled.</i><br /><br />No the Jews of Algeria were extended French citizenship by a Jewish Justice Minister Named Adolphe Crémieux in October 1870. The Prussians had France on the ropes and Crémieux was part of an emergency coalition government thrown together after Napoleon III fell and Paris was under siege. That he felt the legal status of Algeria's Jews was a high priority at that moment shows more than a little ethnocentrism. So it was a case of a French Jew getting a goodie for his co-religionists in Algeria rather than some Machiavellian, "divide and conquer" chess move by France. <br /><br />(See: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolphe_Cr%C3%A9mieux#Cr.C3.A9mieux_decree" rel="nofollow">Crémieux Decree </a> for details.)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04017589590769465615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76676593081969615392013-09-26T13:55:20.403-07:002013-09-26T13:55:20.403-07:00Why is John Kay of Steppenwolf a stranger in his n...Why is John Kay of Steppenwolf a stranger in his native Kaliningrad Oblast?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52522937474589387442013-09-26T11:38:32.370-07:002013-09-26T11:38:32.370-07:00Why is there little mention of the American milita...Why is there little mention of the American military in the Kuwait museum commemorating the 1st Gulf War (where we liberated Kuwait?)Mountain Mavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01576976955563915561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80836641858976027652013-09-26T11:16:14.164-07:002013-09-26T11:16:14.164-07:00I had a pretty good comment written - and then I r...I had a pretty good comment written - and then I remembered that I gave up posting blog comments to focus on some product of my own. I thought at first that I would write a book. Then I considered a blog of my own but I settled on producing movies.<br /><br />I will present my reaction to this blog post as a movie as soon as I can get to it. But that may be weeks or months from now. I started this whole endeavor intending to do a piece on one of Steve's NAEP blogs. But that one is still in script development. My little movies have to be as entertaining as possible given their sometimes very serious subject matter. <br /><br />I've commented here on homosexuality many times. You might want to see my movie.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csjCdlp_giA<br /><br />I'm trying to publish a movie a week. I take requests. <br /><br />Albertosaurus<br /><br />Pat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.com