tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post878009331721642132..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The Reality-Based Community in actionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39019248937037869512008-06-06T18:02:00.000-07:002008-06-06T18:02:00.000-07:00Maybe it's a great idea--importing huge numbers of...<I>Maybe it's a great idea--importing huge numbers of Irish, Italians, Jews, and Chinese worked out pretty well for us</I><BR/><BR/>1) And if it wasn't, would anyone ever be allowed to say it? That's the problem: if our newest wave of immigration doesn't work out we'll never be able to acknowledge it - in 2070 we'll have to say that our country, ranked #107 in per capita income, wouldn't be so great if it weren't for all those vibrant Latin immigrants.<BR/><BR/>2) One big problem with the descendants of those late 19th C. immigrants is that today they are amongst the biggest supporters of open borders. (Otherwise I'm mostly quite fond of them.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-68763868447242694312008-06-06T17:57:00.000-07:002008-06-06T17:57:00.000-07:00"On all other issues Jews could become staunch con..."On all other issues Jews could become staunch conservatives, but this will be tough if the conservative party is so deeply in bed with evangelical Christians."<BR/><BR/>Where do you live? Wyoming? Do you know any Jews? Most American Jews are staunch liberals who whole-heartedly embrace every aspect of liberalism often to a comical degree. I don't see that changing anytime soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34678838491764134022008-06-06T17:52:00.000-07:002008-06-06T17:52:00.000-07:00"Jewish support for the 1965 bill was directly rel..."Jewish support for the 1965 bill was directly related to FDR not letting Jews into the US who were fleeing the Holocaust.<BR/><BR/>Having your extended family slaughtered by Hitler tends to change politics. File that one under obvious."<BR/><BR/>jewish support for an immigration policy designed to disposes America's founding stock predates the holocaust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15419518188997759852008-06-06T15:30:00.000-07:002008-06-06T15:30:00.000-07:00william:Maybe it will be like those waves of immig...william:<BR/><BR/>Maybe it will be like those waves of immigrants, and maybe it won't. The issue is, allowing massive immigration is a policy with huge potential effects on our country. And essentially <B>nobody</B> on the national political or media stage much wants to discuss whether it's a good idea. <BR/><BR/>Maybe it's a great idea--importing huge numbers of Irish, Italians, Jews, and Chinese worked out pretty well for us, despite a lot of problems with the first generation or two of immigrants. Maybe this will all work out, too. But, to quote Fred Reed, nobody will ever be able to accuse us of thinking through the decision to allow this massive flow of immigrants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24726970531029137322008-06-06T15:23:00.000-07:002008-06-06T15:23:00.000-07:00I don't think it takes much thought to understand ...I don't think it takes much thought to understand some knee-jerk positive reaction to immigration among people who:<BR/><BR/>a. Often have aunts, uncles, grandparents, and great grandparents who immigrated to the US<BR/><BR/>b. Often have other relatives who didn't immigrate, and thus got murdered by the Nazis. <BR/><BR/>Now, that doesn't mean it's a sensible policy for the US in 2008. But it's not a surprise, anymore than it's a surprise when you see someone whose parents came over from Mexico favoring easy immigration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51973452355995672432008-06-06T15:04:00.000-07:002008-06-06T15:04:00.000-07:00"Conservativism" and "liberalism" have both come t..."Conservativism" and "liberalism" have both come to mean obliterating anyone who threatens Israel, demonizing anyone who opposes immigration, and unlimited public bailouts for private speculators.<BR/><BR/>The Democratic party isn't anti-Christian. It's anti-White.<BR/><BR/>Some jews apparently fear "white supremacists" more than they fear the overwhelmingly Christian immigrants:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=849241&ct=5082085Tanstaaflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10809764986911255031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5858378618502951412008-06-06T13:24:00.000-07:002008-06-06T13:24:00.000-07:00On all other issues Jews could become staunch cons...<I>On all other issues Jews could become staunch conservatives</I><BR/><BR/>Jews wag the dog way more often than not. If they did become conservatives, it would be by rewriting the definition of conservatism to include all the things Jews want (open borders, propositional nationhood, multiculti, etc.).<BR/><BR/>They'd probably even come up with a new name...I dunno, like neoconservatism or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3855778247353264342008-06-06T08:49:00.000-07:002008-06-06T08:49:00.000-07:00At least when I was applying, for out-of-state stu...At least when I was applying, for out-of-state students at least, UVA's law school was harder to get into than Harvard's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52368948648272434372008-06-06T05:37:00.000-07:002008-06-06T05:37:00.000-07:00The Great White Whale of Hyannisport knew EXACTLY ...The Great White Whale of Hyannisport knew EXACTLY what was going on in 1965. Loook at the quotas set then, and where the Irish quota was.<BR/><BR/>Boston hasn't had a Brahmin mayor since-all Irish or Italian.<BR/><BR/>BrutusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-31451502527288311182008-06-05T21:59:00.000-07:002008-06-05T21:59:00.000-07:00C.O. Jones:He flunked out of Harvard (and got back...C.O. Jones:<BR/><BR/><I>He flunked out of Harvard (and got back in thanks to Joe Sr.) and went to a 2nd rate law school. </I><BR/><BR/>According to Wikipedia, he went to UVA, which is one of the best law schools in the country - it's usually rated higher than Cornell, Duke, Georgetown, and Northwestern, and it's produced at least one SCOTUS justice that I can think of offhand.<BR/><BR/>It's true that UVA is less elite than Harvard or Yale, but it's usually considered a peer of Penn, Berkeley, and Michigan.<BR/><BR/>-signed, bushrod buttramAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72964759679141298412008-06-05T21:11:00.000-07:002008-06-05T21:11:00.000-07:00This looks like something that would be amenable t...<I>This looks like something that would be amenable to Steve Sailer's method of looking for lists of prominent *whatever* and counting up the numbers of *ethnic group*.</I><BR/><BR/>It was done years ago. I posted a link. If Steve nixes it just Google "Jewish vs. Euro-American Voting Patterns", with the quotes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73265361527077368592008-06-05T21:02:00.000-07:002008-06-05T21:02:00.000-07:00There are many Jewish conservatives, and the left-...<I>There are many Jewish conservatives, and the left-wing is full of leaders who are not Jewish.</I><BR/><BR/>Is that anti-everybody-elseism?<BR/><BR/>But since you brought it up...<BR/><BR/>http://tinyurl.com/4zxxvfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54737967738144939292008-06-05T20:51:00.000-07:002008-06-05T20:51:00.000-07:00Steve Saylor's Roma Sub Rosa detective novels are ...Steve Saylor's Roma Sub Rosa detective novels are excellent. And he did you a big favor using a pen name for his "gay erotic fiction".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-6121343218280206212008-06-05T19:33:00.000-07:002008-06-05T19:33:00.000-07:00Yes, I remember seeing a Steven Saylor ancient Rom...Yes, I remember seeing a Steven Saylor ancient Rome detective novel for the first time in a book store. The first thought that popped in my head was, "Wow, I had totally forgotten writing that." The next was, "That was a smart thing I did, making my my name easier to spell."Steve Sailerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11920109042402850214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44279036039952676952008-06-05T18:59:00.000-07:002008-06-05T18:59:00.000-07:00Jewish support for the 1965 bill was directly rela...<I>Jewish support for the 1965 bill was directly related to FDR not letting Jews into the US who were fleeing the Holocaust.</I><BR/><BR/>Jews skewed heavily left well before there was knowledge of the Holocaust.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14301710661787466532008-06-05T16:56:00.000-07:002008-06-05T16:56:00.000-07:00Testing99, since Hitler has been dead for 63 years...Testing99, since Hitler has been dead for 63 years could Jews let up on the open borders now...please.<BR/><BR/>In fact he'd already been gone for 20 in 1965.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45472459015107919082008-06-05T16:24:00.000-07:002008-06-05T16:24:00.000-07:00I found some interesting alternate reality:Steven ...I found some interesting alternate reality:<BR/><BR/>Steven Saylor (born March 23, 1956) is an American author of historical novels. He is a graduate of the University of Texas at Austin, where he studied history and Classics.<BR/>Although he also has written novels about Texas history, Saylor's best-known work is his Roma Sub Rosa series, set in ancient Rome. The novels' hero is a detective named Gordianus the Finder, active during the time of Sulla, Cicero, Julius Caesar, and Cleopatra.<BR/>Prior to his novel-writing career, he published gay erotic fiction under the pen name Aaron Travis. Saylor has lived with his partner Richard Solomon since 1976 and they officially registered as domestic partners in San Francisco in 1991. The couple split their time between properties in Berkeley, California and Austin, Texas.[1]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3536741273140330582008-06-05T15:39:00.000-07:002008-06-05T15:39:00.000-07:00Jewish political history has not been very stable ...Jewish political history has not been very stable You can be very smart but not know how to work together on a large scale. The ability to organize is what made Europe great and why the Jews had such a problem maintaining their independence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-49372363212265207162008-06-05T15:24:00.000-07:002008-06-05T15:24:00.000-07:00Blogger Concerned said... Ron, What are whi...Blogger Concerned said...<BR/> Ron,<BR/> What are white people gonna do, vote Republican?<BR/>---------------------------------<BR/><BR/>No, explode. Think vote for Jared Taylor, if not that, David Duke, if not that...well you get the point. <BR/><BR/>Some analysis of Hitler's rise was a concern for the decadence of German culture (read liberals).<BR/><BR/>Long story short. Liberals are overgrown children who circumvent laws. Seeing that they can circumvent and dont play fair, they cant be stopped. So people vote extreme right as the only way to control the situation.<BR/><BR/>Once extremists come into power - well they were voted in with dictatorial powers or acquiescence to dictatorial powers - so they screw things royally. <BR/><BR/>But, never forget, it tends to start with piss-ant liberals.MensaRefugeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00140097855923319224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-34459266419683135922008-06-05T15:03:00.000-07:002008-06-05T15:03:00.000-07:00"Bullshit. It was a clever strategy by Catholics t..."Bullshit. It was a clever strategy by Catholics to increase their numbers. The biggest supporter of open borders is the Catholic Church."<BR/>Well, it wasn't a strategy of "the Catholics" per se, since they're not a hive mind or sinister conspiracy, but it is my understanding the heaviest cheerleading of the 1965 Immigration Act was led by politicians in the Northeast who represented heavily Irish and Italian districts.<BR/><BR/>-Vanilla ThunderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47583167679660467012008-06-05T14:37:00.000-07:002008-06-05T14:37:00.000-07:00People change and Jewish people are becoming more ...People change and Jewish people are becoming more conservative. Sorry, I can't cite, but saw it in a discussion on the election and Republicans believing they can get a higher percentage of their vote... and it was irrespective of nervousness over Barack Obama. The trend is there for elite New England Irish Catholics as well. Just like everyone else, they interact with their world, see things, and change accordingly. Anecdotal story: I was talking with a Boston Irish liberal (teacher w/ a masters' degree) who turned out to be not quite that liberal. In the first five minutes of meeting her I learned that she was a "liberal" because of anti-Irish bigotry against her ancestors . She would go on to fight for civil rights in the '60's and even went to teach in Atlanta's inner city. Disillusioned and hoping her experience was a fluke, she went to St. Petersburg, Florida. She saw the same thing and began to believe we are different. She retired early with a broken heart. Now she's accepted that "class" is what differentiates us, which is technically true, but while she is uncomfortable exploring it further, and probably too old and set, her world view was dramatically changed. She even applauded my homeschooling my children which she said she had a problem with "years ago". BTW, I'm neither Jewish nor Boston Irish, but mostly Southern Irish and our and our ancestors' experiences are vastly different from our more numerous Northern brethren.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58669764402125626362008-06-05T14:26:00.000-07:002008-06-05T14:26:00.000-07:00"Bullshit. It was a clever strategy by Catholics t..."Bullshit. It was a clever strategy by Catholics to increase their numbers. The biggest supporter of open borders is the Catholic Church."<BR/><BR/>Maybe now, but Kevin McDonald reports that Italians and Irish had little problem with the 1924 national origins law when it came into effect, whereas Jews strongly opposed it. Before the holocaust, note, but after pogroms.<BR/><BR/>I think a good case can be made that immigration is "good for the jews", good for the immigrants, but bad for the average citizen.<BR/><BR/>Trouble for the average citizen is that Jews are very active politically, both as volunteers, financial contributors, and candidates. Hence they tend to get their way.RobertHumehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03913525250329418444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40045364409146289082008-06-05T14:18:00.000-07:002008-06-05T14:18:00.000-07:00eric:"Oh? And who would be willing to put his cush...eric:<BR/><I>"Oh? And who would be willing to put his cushy government job on the line by pointing out this would be the result? Far safer to let it go ahead. Then it's incumbent on the researchers to make sure everthing comes out "correct".<BR/><BR/>What you're seeing is career suicide by the researchers who think their job is to report facts."</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks, that makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67833850444745341032008-06-05T13:59:00.000-07:002008-06-05T13:59:00.000-07:00Deena:I remember there being some nice neighborhoo...Deena:<BR/><BR/>I remember there being some nice neighborhoods in North Arlington where the schools are still pretty good. Similarly, there are good schools in the city of Falls Church, but this is like an island in an increasingly dicey area. They remain relatively insulated by higher home prices. For middle class families, a homeowners association might be the key to making sure you don't move into a neighborhood that is about to be dragged under.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-45488813372171967362008-06-05T13:57:00.000-07:002008-06-05T13:57:00.000-07:00half sigma said:The anonymous anti-Semitism in the...half sigma said:<BR/><I><BR/><BR/>The anonymous anti-Semitism in these comments is getting tiresome. There are many Jewish conservatives, and the left-wing is full of leaders who are not Jewish.</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>This looks like something that would be amenable to Steve Sailer's method of looking for lists of prominent *whatever* and counting up the numbers of *ethnic group*. My hunch is that Jews would be grossly overrepresented among prominent liberals and anti-national neocons, and merely slightly overrepresented among nationalist/paleocon types (Jews tend to be smart so they're going to be overrepresented at <I>anything</I> that involves forming arguments with words. I wouldn't be surprised if they're overrepresnted among Holocaust deniers, for that matter).<BR/><BR/>Of course, hunches are pretty worthless compared to data, but I've gotta do yard work now...<BR/><BR/>On a different note, it's about time somebody skewered the self-proclaim "Reality-Based Community." They're only realistic compared to Bush, which is kind of like only being tall compared to Mini-Me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com