tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post879121534342572642..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: "Blitzkrieg Bop" and the 10,000 Hour RuleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-47380105812918805502013-09-03T14:00:51.742-07:002013-09-03T14:00:51.742-07:00I thought the first reaction against simple blues-...I thought the first reaction against simple blues-based rock was progressive rock in the early 70s?<br /><br />Initially at least, punk rock was championed by left wing music critics as a "popular" (read hipster) response to progressive rock, which was seen as white, middle class and elitist for trying to include classical influences in blues/jazz based rock songs.<br /><br />Hence on one level it's pretty ironic that bands like the Ramones and post punk rockers Joy Division (the main inspiration for neo-folk) are so influential in white nationalist circles.<br /><br />A stylistic example of the continuing egalitarian influence of punk in WN music is that nearly all neofolk bands have terrible vocalists who sing in a low flat style that puts me to sleep in about 60 seconds.<br /><br />By all means reduce the blues influences, but why extinguish melody and dynamism? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71326575918534251992013-09-02T20:54:14.879-07:002013-09-02T20:54:14.879-07:00Brian Jones of the ROLLING STONES had an IQ of 133...Brian Jones of the ROLLING STONES had an IQ of 133.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52792154402321247562013-09-01T14:16:37.131-07:002013-09-01T14:16:37.131-07:00Surf music may not have been strongly blues-based ...Surf music may not have been strongly blues-based but it had its share of black influence, not only from Chuck Berry etc. but also from jazz. Both direct and indirect. <br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59634780098714818972013-08-31T08:37:31.629-07:002013-08-31T08:37:31.629-07:00"Keith Richards likes to read Gibbon. I don&#..."Keith Richards likes to read Gibbon. I don't think he's the complete idiot some think he is."<br /><br />And he likes to act like a bonobo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37300904262089154822013-08-31T08:34:06.736-07:002013-08-31T08:34:06.736-07:00"Chris Martins wife may follow Kanye West and..."Chris Martins wife may follow Kanye West and Jay Z on tour, but his music is Whiter than White."<br /><br />His curvaceous singing style owes something to soul.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdBym7kv2IM<br /><br />http://youtu.be/bRgR3LsF_ow?t=4m57sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69759669439694641322013-08-30T17:06:35.571-07:002013-08-30T17:06:35.571-07:00Finally broke down and decided I'd better list...Finally broke down and decided I'd better listen to a Ramones ditty, just to hear what exactly y'all were nattering on about. Chose the top version of Blitzkrieg Bop on YouTube. Well, Jeezus H. Christ. What utter crap. I mean, it's not even *interesting* crap. Lacks the literary interest of the average poem by Ogden Nash, and lacks the musical interest of the average national anthem. Just pathetic.vinteuilhttp://occamsrazormag.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-40011686079242018552013-08-30T16:21:13.817-07:002013-08-30T16:21:13.817-07:00The well-read Richard and well-educated Jagger pal...<i>The well-read Richard and well-educated Jagger pale next to Dr. Brian May, doctor of astrophysics, chancellor of John Moores University and sometime guitarist for Queen.</i><br /><br />He's got nothin' on Dr. Buckaroo Banzai.Svigornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21401016113873214232013-08-30T15:20:29.466-07:002013-08-30T15:20:29.466-07:00The Ramones lived by four simple rules.
First rul...The Ramones lived by four simple rules.<br /><br />First rule is: The laws of Germany<br />Second rule is: Be nice to mommy<br />Third rule is: Don't talk to commies<br />Fourth rule is: Eat kosher salamisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-60493691257964071652013-08-30T10:22:11.333-07:002013-08-30T10:22:11.333-07:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FHFG2AlzKg
Wilson...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FHFG2AlzKg<br /><br />Wilson being weird. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80207675504235119102013-08-30T10:07:29.183-07:002013-08-30T10:07:29.183-07:00Writing great classical music is extremely hard.
...<i>Writing great classical music is extremely hard.</i><br /><br />Emily Bear was writing pretty decent classical music at age six. Pretty decent jazz too! Definitely a challenge for anyone who denies the existence of inborn talent.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUx4t4W4eVYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89928148048926984092013-08-30T07:21:53.103-07:002013-08-30T07:21:53.103-07:00The well-read Richard and well-educated Jagger pal...The well-read Richard and well-educated Jagger pale next to Dr. Brian May, doctor of astrophysics, chancellor of John Moores University and sometime guitarist for Queen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86167586293462841852013-08-30T07:19:53.354-07:002013-08-30T07:19:53.354-07:00http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/29/sly-s...http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/aug/29/sly-stone-albino-musicians-neutralise-racial-problems<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGWDLpfqOwU&list=PLaAoj2YCmzeG4fyuyIa8GVUqxDjrNY_WB&index=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-26316477032114489582013-08-30T06:58:45.727-07:002013-08-30T06:58:45.727-07:00I'm late to the party, but...
1. Did somebody...I'm late to the party, but...<br /><br />1. Did somebody really just ask who The Ramones influenced?!? Let's start with every punk rock band. Members of The Clash and The Sex Pistols attended a Ramones show on July 4th, 1976 which begat the British punk movement, which begat new romance and new wave which begat goth rock. On the other hand punk begat hardcore, which begat speed/thrash metal, which begat death metal, ad infinitum. In a nutshell, The Ramones are directly responsible for every strain of underground rock music that exists or has existed since 1976.<br /><br />2. Somebody asked about the enduring appeal of The Ramones? Fist and foremost, they were the ground zero originators of punk rock. After about 1986, listening to punk rock was akin to learning a dead language, and all the important bands had long since broken up (The Pistols, The Clash, The Damned, Misfits, Dead Kennedys, etc.). However, The Ramones were still together and still touring. Any aspiring young punk could still see something they missed. It was like time travel for disgruntled adolescents.<br /><br />3. I wholeheartedly agree that "Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk Rock" was a fantastic book. However, the best book purely on The Ramones is "On The Road With The Ramones" by Monte Melnick, their tour manager for over 25 years.<br /><br />4. Minor Threat was without a doubt the most important in influential hardcore band. That said, I really liked Bad Brains (named after a Ramones song, BTW), but the most noteworthy thing about them, other than their skin color, was that they played both pure hardcore and pure reggae without blending the two into ska. Also, Dr. Know introduced the guitar solo to hardcore.<br /><br />5. Best Ramones song ever, IMHO "I Wanna Be Sedated".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23579571273511368672013-08-30T06:24:49.351-07:002013-08-30T06:24:49.351-07:00Aaron, hey, appreciate the KKK origin story. If yo...Aaron, hey, appreciate the KKK origin story. If you have not watched it, check of the "End of the Century" Ramones DVD, some good stuff in there. <br /><br />Neil Young: my band covers "Like a Hurricane", "Hey, Hey, My My", "Powder Finger", and "Keep on Rocking in the Free World". (One time we played out and had a whole bar full of 20 years old kids hopping around to "Powder Finger." It was bizarre).<br /><br />Anyway, I do not copy solos note for note, but, really, it is not that hard to get a solo to sound Youngian, but a lot of that is predicated on nailing the feel. <br /><br />That being said, while Young is not a virtuoso, he does have a lot of tricks up is sleeve. One example: on "Like a Hurricane", he does this thing where he plays octaves and slides them up in down. Or the neat little G - B- C bass run in the chorus of that song. Another example: "Powder Finger", when he is playing an open C he hammers the E. He's also really good at playing the heck out of single notes, which you here in almost all his solos. Another trick is a variation on the Johnny Ramone open high e and e on the fifth fret drone - he will slide it all up and down then back up to say the 17th fret or something and then just vibrato or bend the shit out a note. Also, I think his guitar picking is probably above average. <br /><br />Where Young really shines, and I guess the whole band, really - is Rhythm. Everyone always thinks solos are the key to rock - but it really is the Rhythm as expressed not just through the Bass and Drums, but also the guitar solo. If you just know the basic blues box, and you get the feel down - ,man, you can do some pretty awesome things. <br /><br />If you don't have the feel forget it - I played for years with this guy once who was a real aspie. He spent hours practicing. Jesus, he loved rock and had an encyclopedic knowledge of it. Went to concerts all the time. But he was looking at music from the outside in. His Rhythm guitar was not that bad, although very mechanical, but his solos were always lacking something. <br /><br />Anyway, back to Neil Young: basically a guy with middling skills who, along with a great band, was able to fully execute a pretty compelling musical vision. <br /><br />I always thought of surf music, at least as played by Dick Dale, as amped up Flamenco. <br /><br />Hope all you iStevers have a good labor day. <br /><br />1911Just Another Guy With a 1911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7205739990708357712013-08-30T03:27:52.280-07:002013-08-30T03:27:52.280-07:00Is it just me, or is 'Every Breath You Take...Is it just me, or is 'Every Breath You Take' a ripoff of 'Stand By Me'?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27277239825630199992013-08-30T01:19:00.489-07:002013-08-30T01:19:00.489-07:00"You don't hear Black bass players and so..."You don't hear Black bass players and songwriters like Jack Bruce. Jack Bruce is a White man par excellence."<br /><br />That's crazy talk. Bass is one instrument in pop music where blacks have consistently been more innovative and interesting than whites over the last 50 years. White music tends to focus on melody and harmony and bass just plays a supporting role hitting root notes and 5ths (e.g. in country music - the whitest of all popular music). Black jazz musicians like Charles Mingus started pushing the role of the bass to new levels in the 1950s, then black musicians like James Jamerson and Bernard Odum started giving bass a more prominent role in R&B, followed by people like Larry Graham, Bootsy Collins, Stanley Clarke, etc. The virtuso white rock bassists - Entwistle, Geddy Lee, Bruce - often just play bass like yet another lead guitar just tuned down a few octaves. Black musicians are the ones who have developed a real "bass" voice in popular music.Peter the Sharknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41747420254586743792013-08-29T23:52:02.455-07:002013-08-29T23:52:02.455-07:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVZK2vJAuY
White?...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVZK2vJAuY<br /><br />White? black? who cares?<br /><br />It's fabulous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81012031726741999642013-08-29T23:48:32.796-07:002013-08-29T23:48:32.796-07:00"The Beach Boys and Dick Dale removed Black i..."The Beach Boys and Dick Dale removed Black influences from rock a decade before Punk and the Ramones."<br /><br />But the steady beat thing and rhythm has 'black' roots.<br /><br />SURFIN SAFAR and SURFIN USA were ripped from Chuck Berry. '<br />I GET AROUND owes a lot to rock n roll.<br />Beach Boys were also inspired by barbershop singing and there's black roots in that too. Of course, we must be careful not to go for one-drop rule in culture where something is called black because it has some or little black influence. <br />Sloop John B is a West Indies song, I think.<br /><br />So, it's wrong to say they 'removed' black influences. They did their own things and made their own sounds. It can be called 'white' but its deeper influences are varied. <br /><br />And WILD HONEY was Beach Boys doing R&B. <br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RUmZnuNRQUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63570098938261278102013-08-29T23:40:40.374-07:002013-08-29T23:40:40.374-07:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnn75ZSbPo
Funhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnn75ZSbPo<br /><br />FunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-37862016786260660662013-08-29T23:33:57.884-07:002013-08-29T23:33:57.884-07:00The Beach Boys and Dick Dale removed Black influen...The Beach Boys and Dick Dale removed Black influences from rock a decade before Punk and the Ramones. Think about it. Nothing Black there. Then the British invasion added it back. New Wave may have been symphonic but it was White as hell. It was really the 90s boy bands and pop tarts that went Black. With serious rock remaining very, very White from the Replacements to New Radicals to Coldplay to say, the Naked and the Famous or Keane.<br /><br />Chris Martins wife may follow Kanye West and Jay Z on tour, but his music is Whiter than White.Whiskeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01854764809682029464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80716910006218534402013-08-29T23:26:39.274-07:002013-08-29T23:26:39.274-07:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HZq62nqE78
First ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HZq62nqE78<br /><br />First punk and rap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86864245263235076992013-08-29T23:08:15.763-07:002013-08-29T23:08:15.763-07:00Ramens are boring, stupid, childish, and ugly. It&...Ramens are boring, stupid, childish, and ugly. It's Dr Demento novelty stuff at best. One-shot blunder stuff.<br /><br />We need more songs like these:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2xeL2_eSUY<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnS5kQWWs0I<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goihMCl1QRUAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-3249373515374614662013-08-29T22:31:11.173-07:002013-08-29T22:31:11.173-07:00In a review of one early Ramones release its songs...In a review of one early Ramones release its songs were found to have a militaristic vibe and "appeal to fascist instincts" by bed-wetting Ivy League nitwit Robert Christgau (the Sasha Frere-Jones of the 70s). Despite the awkward hemming & hawing he wrote it was the most fun/enjoyable record in his recent memory. That review is why nothing ever published at Salon now surprises me<br /><br />(p.s. I thought of "The KKK Took My Baby Away" during the Oberlin posts--to a person only seeing the title but knowing nothing about the band, presumably it'd appear as some kind of genteel statement piece (hopefully?). That would be false, but IIRC during the post-9/11 Clear Channel freak-out it still landed on the airplay blacklist.)Alcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-70750583269276627802013-08-29T21:36:06.492-07:002013-08-29T21:36:06.492-07:00...Joey lamenting the loss of the love of his life...<i>...Joey lamenting the loss of the love of his life to Johnny.</i><br /><br />This false urban legend must be corrected!!! Steve, you stand on the side of truth against the propagation of lies. You must join the crusade to set the record straight!<br /><br /><i>The KKK Took My Baby Away</i> is not about Johnny stealing Joey's girlfriend. In fact, the song was written (but not recorded) before that even happened.<br /><br />It was apparently inspired by something that happened before the Ramones were even formed. Joey (then just Jeffry Hyman) had a black girlfriend whom he'd met in the psych ward, which is where he met most of his girlfriends at that time. The two used to joke about their interracial relationship and the KKK.<br /><br />The girl more or less moved in to Jeffry's mother's apartment where Jeffry was living. After a while, Jeffry's mother got fed up with the girl's weirdness - like Jeffry, the girl was a mental patient - and called her parents to come take her home.<br /><br />When Jeffry's brother came home that day he asked Jeffry where his girlfriend was, and Jeffry replied, "They took her away." <br />"Who?"<br />"The KKK."<br /><br />This is from <i>I Slept With Joey Ramone</i> by Joey's brother, Mike Leigh (Mitchell Lee Hyman). It sounds much more convincing than the "Johnny" story, which I've never seen confirmed by anyone who would know the truth.Aaron Grosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07105500964362053569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-48018483508532693262013-08-29T19:55:23.837-07:002013-08-29T19:55:23.837-07:00"If you have natural musical talent, the main..."If you have natural musical talent, the main barrier to entry would be developing technical mastery, the needed dexterity, along with an understanding of the nuances and internal possibilities of the instrument. Also, exposing yourself to good examples of solos on those instruments helps."<br /><br />Some have performance talent, some have compositional talent. Dylan and Lennon were not great musicians by any means but they had great compositional talent and found the kind of performance people they could collaborate with to flesh their ideas out into sound. <br /><br />I don't think Neil Young was much of a instrumentalist either, but Crazy Horse understood his ideas and played well for/with him. <br />It's like a great filmmaker may not be a master of cinematography or sound, but he can find the right people who can understand his vision and bring it alive. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com