tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post8840740858964275135..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: WSJ: "The Racializing of American Politics"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-78717134189011467102012-12-02T06:47:10.548-08:002012-12-02T06:47:10.548-08:00Anonydroid at 12:40 AM responded to Hunsdon!
Huns...Anonydroid at 12:40 AM responded to Hunsdon!<br /><br />Hunsdon continues:<br /><br />I hope no down home hurt came across. I could spend the day chronicling a list of Southern flaws and failings, but probably not a whole day chronicling uniquely Southern flaws and failings.<br /><br />I am a long-time Ron Paul fan. He is the only politician to whom I have donated (and donated regularly). You may say that the South rejected him, which neatly overlooks his long career in Congress representing Angleton and Lake Jackson. (OK, the whole 14th!)<br /><br />I might quibble about his candidacy being the only one not to kowtow to our mandarins. What about Dennis Kucinich?<br /><br />The assertion that the South rejected Ron Paul presupposes that his campaign and his ideas were given a fair shake in the media, an assertion that causes me to shake with barely suppressed laughter. "Dang Southerners, rejecting Ron Paul out of hand, after a careful consideration of his message!"<br /><br />I regard Rick Perry as a blow-dried blowhard, but when I lift my gaze above narrow parochial concerns and survey the scene from sea to shining sea, I mostly see blow-dried blowhards rising to success in every state in the nation.<br /><br />As for Texas' oil wealth, I honestly think a comparison with Saudi Arabia is inept, and inapt. Perhaps Norway would be a better comparison, or England? Oil may have been the foundation of Texas' spring to greatness (aside from the ports of Houston and Galveston, and cotton, and beef, and timber), but it's not as if you can say, "Absent oil, they huddle around their campfires." Accidents of geography abound. Would England be England without the Channel? Would Russia be Russia, if it had defensible borders?<br /><br />Continuing! I am also a fan of Mencken, but wouldn't hold the man out as some sort of enlightened philosopher. He was a satirist, a humorist, and a man writing for his living. But if we're going to drop Mencken quotes, how about this one? <br /><br />"There is only one honest impulse at the bottom of Puritanism, and that is the impulse to punish the man with a superior capacity for happiness."<br /><br />In closing, sir, I thank you for engaging, and responding. (Whiskey does neither, to pick only one example.) Further, I implore you to adopt a moniker here. If you choose not to publish under your own name, pick a good name from history. Hotspur, for instance. That's a fine old Anglo name. (No prince but a Percy! Ah, good times, good times.)<br /><br />I might have been a little butthurt, come to think of it, and apologize.Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-5663198826499683592012-12-02T00:40:43.924-08:002012-12-02T00:40:43.924-08:00Yes, Hunsdon, and those German and Czech immigrant...Yes, Hunsdon, and those German and Czech immigrants created far better functioning communities than their Anglo-Celtic Southern neighbors.<br /><br />And yes, I understood it was tongue in cheek. I still think it funny.<br /><br />And I'm not a Yankee, so spare me the hurt down home routine. I just happen to be a Southerner who agrees with paleocon ideas and loves Mencken, and who is honest about his own people. They are presented someone like Ron Paul, who offers a chance to save 'em, and they reject it because Paul doesn't do the cowboy talk b.s. which is a mixture of war-mongering and sappy feel good b.s. ("compassionate conservatism") Paul's the only major candidate in recent decades to not spit in Dixie's collective face, but since he doesn't support the M.I.C. the South's got no use for him.<br /><br />And to anonymous, Yankees were the ones back in the day funding missionary schools and trying to do something about hookworm. The South is prosperous today because of the Fed Government and the Yankees. The Yankees, including the Germans, were always better at creating bourgeois communities of the sort Sailer praises. That their societies have collapsed in the face of Globalization and Far Left b.s. (including having to deal with all the blacks who left the South, i.e. our problem) shouldn't give us reason to crow. Like I said, take away Fed money and oil wealth and see how well TX would have done. Oil wealth, whether in TX, AK or Saudi Arabia is dumb luck.<br /><br />Southerners are more than willing to sell each other out in the name of cheap labor, or, at the very least, we aren't willing to take on our elites who sell us out for cheap labor. The Southern masses go on, like their forebears, sullenly, lashing out in self-destructive ways. Those mean Yankees made fun of us, so we'll show 'em by electing Dubya or Gingrich. We'll support the folks in Tel Aviv, because they got our back.<br /><br />The South's problem for generations has been a lack of self-reflection and smugness. Yes, we've produced some great thinkers, but they were few and ineffectual. I feel for working class and lower middle class kids, they will suffer for our greed and hubris. Def. a case of the sins of the fathers visited on the children.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-64236111675782499832012-12-01T17:48:21.657-08:002012-12-01T17:48:21.657-08:00Anonydroid at 6:51 said: Hunsdon, that poem was g...Anonydroid at 6:51 said: Hunsdon, that poem was genius.<br /><br />Hunsdon demurred: If it had been genius, you would have understood that I was mocking self righteous Yankees who think they have "done" brought enlightenment to us.<br /><br />I threw that "done" in there so you'd know I was from Texas.<br /><br />Also, you are aware of the fairly large scale German and Czech immigration into Texas in the 1840s and 50s, aren't you?Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-42439576785340971552012-12-01T12:40:17.793-08:002012-12-01T12:40:17.793-08:00"Southerners have always benefited from the e..."Southerners have always benefited from the energy and nohow of other Americans."<br /><br />We Southerners have always benefited from the "nohow" of other Americans?<br /><br />Amen, brother.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-54622684159869861842012-12-01T11:57:15.642-08:002012-12-01T11:57:15.642-08:00This Pew chart shows the history of Hispanic voter...This Pew chart shows the history of Hispanic voters in presidential elections:<br />http://www.pewhispanic.org/files/2012/11/hispanic-2012-11-07-latino-vote-00-01.png<br /><br />I'm consistently amused by the citation of GW's performance with Hispanics. It was truly anomalous post-Amnesty vote with extremely different dynamics.<br /><br />1) You had a lifetime Texas resident who was affluent, but not megarich running against a megarich Masshole<br /><br />2) This last go you had Rs running a megarich Masshole who happened to be Mormon running against a person of color<br /><br />3) Reagan was at least from the Sunshine state and it was on the early end of racial politics... and he was running against an unpopular white guy<br /><br />Romney couldn't have been further away from what the typical Hispanic voter relates to -- especially in the shadow of a minority candidate. This isn't rocket science. <br /><br />BTW, Hispanic breakdown by income was even more telling. Low income voters no matter their race swung hard to Obama. A look at the most recent Census data on median household income shows that Hispanic median income trails by 30.9%. <br /><br />http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/income_expenditures_poverty_wealth/household_income.html<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19783037948387727002012-12-01T11:51:24.714-08:002012-12-01T11:51:24.714-08:00"pat said...
Martin Luther King wanted us al..."pat said...<br /><br />Martin Luther King wanted us all to be color blind."<br /><br />I don't think so. He wanted white people to be color blind.Mr. Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2989719788221070692012-12-01T11:12:34.159-08:002012-12-01T11:12:34.159-08:00Maybe Texas should invade New York and teach you g...Maybe Texas should invade New York and teach you guys a thing or two about storm clean up. That and how to act when the Foot Locker runs out of Air Jordans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41630525432315638582012-11-30T21:17:31.543-08:002012-11-30T21:17:31.543-08:00"I am not saying there are too many white mal..."I am not saying there are too many white males like him, a blue-collar, middle class, gun toting, non-PC, white male who votes democrat."<br /><br />Illinois native here.<br /><br />I would actually say in various parts of the Great Lakes and Midwestern states there are quite a few voters like that.Cornnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-84881188519858110272012-11-30T20:41:26.776-08:002012-11-30T20:41:26.776-08:00Look dude I'm sorry the UAW were stubborn and ...Look dude I'm sorry the UAW were stubborn and your wing nut job at the factory got shipped to Dixie, but really update your "facts." Your "smoke" consists like has been pointed out from Mencken (who is completely overrated) and pop cultural. Houston is far superior to any Rust Belt city. Have you seen Detroit recently? This is were istever's get it all wrong. It isn't the racism that makes people go shut up losers its that loser's like desert lady and anonymous come here and spout of about how mad they are that they can't get overpaid to do jobs machines now do. I'm no libertarian in fact I'm pretty tolerant of featherbedding because it is quite clear that machines are basically making too many people superflous, but no one owes you insulation from market forces. They just don't and stomping your feet and whining about Dixie just makes those who say the Civil War was just Northern imperialism seem right. You rested on your laurels (laurels which your Irish ancestors had nothing to do with building), allowed corruption to rot your cities, and didn't breed. Now your time is up boo hoo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76972784747210868742012-11-30T18:55:11.440-08:002012-11-30T18:55:11.440-08:00And yes Dubya captured the Zeitgeist as part of hi...And yes Dubya captured the Zeitgeist as part of his schtick. It's called pandering, cynicism and politics and decadence. Dubya was also a legacy cheerleader so let's not emphasize the Ivy thing too much.<br /><br />Moreover, just as the Brits feared in India, one doesn't want the kids hanging around too much with the locals and picking up their bad habits. GHW and Martha's boy might have done just that, assuming his faux cowboy personna wasn't fake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80648122141143321012012-11-30T18:51:31.118-08:002012-11-30T18:51:31.118-08:00Hunsdon, that poem was genius.
The Sunbelt migrat...Hunsdon, that poem was genius.<br /><br />The Sunbelt migration is a result of Far Left snafus in the post 1960's era and Globalization, including a stop off in Dixie before heading on to Mexico and Asia for cheaper labor.<br /><br />Dixie offered Northern companies cheap, pliable labor, and non-unionized. If you complain about outsourcing and depression of wages through immigration, don't crow about the Sunbelt migration.<br /><br />Next, where there is smoke there is fire when it comes to stereotypes, including those of the South. You don't need narratives or Mencken [btw, one of the greatest writers this nation ever produced] to condemn the South. Statistics bear it out. And one doesn't have to be a recipient of Marshall Dees' shacking old Jews down for cash through fear newsletter to have no patience with Dixie or her denizens.<br /><br />The South's recent prosperity is post WW2 owing to increased Federal Spending, particularly M.I.C. stuff, the aforementioned move of companies South sort of proto-outsourcing/Globalization. I might be wrong, but I suspect on average in the South non-Southern white Sunbelt migrants are wealthier and healthier than their native-born counterparts. <br /><br />The great tragedy of the US is that the Germanic-Midwestern societies have collapsed due to Globalization and Far Left b.s. The fact that a place like TX is doing well, seemingly, is a cause for concern.<br />Just like when Perry talked seccession until the hurricanes hit, and then didn't he whine for cash, Southerners have always benefited from the energy and nohow of other Americans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-91658315064579762842012-11-30T17:08:52.160-08:002012-11-30T17:08:52.160-08:00"Martin Luther King wanted us all to be color..."Martin Luther King wanted us all to be color blind."<br /><br />That was just rhetoric. White people are so naive. ATBOTLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76600921314679150892012-11-30T12:49:57.701-08:002012-11-30T12:49:57.701-08:00"Texans"
A Hunsdon Poem
Semi-savage w..."Texans"<br /><br />A Hunsdon Poem<br /><br /><br />Semi-savage we sit<br />about our campfires<br />naked but for a rude twist of cloth<br />about our loins<br /><br />When the thunder rolls<br />we peer forth fearfully<br />for we have angered the<br />Gods of the Long Horns<br />as they charge through the sky<br /><br />If only, we pray unceasingly,<br />some Yankees would take up<br />the white man's burden<br />and rescue us from our rude state<br /><br />Benighted people we<br />dependent on the largesse<br />of our betters<br />to save us from ourselvesHunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72741325520193537682012-11-30T12:19:57.745-08:002012-11-30T12:19:57.745-08:00Personal anecdote, I know a guy who votes democrat...<i>Personal anecdote, I know a guy who votes democrat who is a demographer's nightmare. This guy owns guns, uses racial slurs and yet voted for Obama because he is convinced the GOP is only out for the rich.</i> <br /><br /><br />That's the power of the media at work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-79296289657102626732012-11-30T12:18:44.104-08:002012-11-30T12:18:44.104-08:00California is not the South. If the Okies had thei...<i>California is not the South. If the Okies had their way, you wouldn't have had that nice library or other amenities... George W. Bush captured the knuckle-dragging Zeitgeist of Dixie pretty effectively.</i> <br /><br /><br />Yup, because nothing says "knuckle-dragging anti-intellectual Neanderthal from Dixie" like a New England WASP with degrees from Yale and Harvard!Severnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52164662081898272012012-11-30T10:25:25.763-08:002012-11-30T10:25:25.763-08:00"Look, paleocons need to realize, Southerners..."Look, paleocons need to realize, Southerners are not your allies, you'll never be able to bring them in on your plans to recreate some sort of Germanic Midwestern style society with a prosperous middle-class and sense of community spirit leading to worthwhile projects. The current collapse of the US is a result of Southerners and Far Leftists having their way." - It wasn't the south that voted to destroy all of that, they were the last holdouts. And on every issue the south was eventually overruled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-76056451334645034042012-11-30T09:51:30.194-08:002012-11-30T09:51:30.194-08:00I think we may be moving into a period where race ...I think we may be moving into a period where race is ever more important. I can't be bothered to be alarmed, because it seems so inevitable.<br /><br />You Steve Sailer are one of the major figures in modern human biodiversity. Did you think that people would take your insights and then not apply them?<br /><br />In the interest of brevity I won't lay out the whole likely process. I'll just cut to the endgame.<br /><br />Right now our jurisprudence applies as much as possible to all Americans irrespetive of their personal chacteristics. We take pride in our adherance to the idea of a Common Law. That looks like it must change. <br /><br />Martin Luther King wanted us all to be color blind. You have argued in effect to consider race. I think the debate is going your way. Currently the courts regard elderly Asian women the same way they regard young black males. That can't be right.<br /><br />Young black males who have dropped out of school and are unemployed are very, very dangerous. I can foresee the day when we will engage in preventative detention. Black teens will be assigned to a work camp in the woods not based on their personal actions (e.g. rob a 7-11) but solely on their race, age and employment status.<br /><br />This kind of confinement before an offense is very un-American, but it is rational. Right now we impose confinement with the burden of proof on the state. We seem to be moving towards a situation where that is reversed. Unemployed black teens may soon be sent to the camps and only be set free if he can demonstrate he is safe enough to be let out. <br /><br />Trayvon Martin in that world would never have been allowed to roam free. That, it seems to me, is the natural consequence of racial realism.<br /><br />Last night I watched the big Sci-Fi movie <i>Prometheus</i>. The time of the action was a century or more in the future. Mankind had FTL travel and artificial gravity. Yet the captain of the ship was a black man. How likely is that? There were no Chinese or Japanese to be seen but there was this very black guy in the captain's chair.<br /><br />Darwin and Galton expected the advanced races to eliminate the more primitive races. Me too. Galton advocated replacing Africans with Chinese. I see now that some African leaders are becoming worried that the Chinese seem to be colonizing their continent.<br /><br />By the time of the movie's action it seems more likely to me that half the ship's crew would be Asian and none African.<br /><br />Race, partly because of your own efforts, is coming back as a critical factor in politics, jurisprudence, and all social matters.<br /><br />Albertosaurus<br /> Pat Boylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13477950851915567863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38972266457078159232012-11-30T08:05:09.874-08:002012-11-30T08:05:09.874-08:00"I am not saying there are too many white mal...<em>"I am not saying there are too many white males like him, a blue-collar, middle class, gun toting, non-PC, white male who votes democrat. But who knows it might represent a percentage point on two."</em><br /><br />I just wrote <a href="http://cailcorishev.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/dont-fear-the-briar-patch/" rel="nofollow">a long post about this on my blog</a>, so I won't repeat it all here, but I think the percentage is higher than that. It certainly is where I live, in the kind of mostly-white, working-class area that Republicans need to dominate to win the battleground states.<br /><br />The fact that the media and experts are unanimous in telling them to stay away from this strategy is the best proof I can see that it would work.Cail Corishevhttp://cailcorishev.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-28071738430950872342012-11-30T07:43:48.926-08:002012-11-30T07:43:48.926-08:00To quote that famous savage, the Hon. David Crocke...To quote that famous savage, the Hon. David Crockett, "You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas."<br /><br />There was nothing "semi" about Crockett.<br /><br />Hunsdonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-86788360495656335662012-11-30T04:47:34.816-08:002012-11-30T04:47:34.816-08:00" Fun said...
Look, paleocons need to re..." Fun said...<br /><br /> Look, paleocons need to realize, Southerners are not your allies, you'll never be able to bring them in on your plans to recreate some sort of Germanic Midwestern style society with a prosperous middle-class and sense of community spirit leading to worthwhile projects. The current collapse of the US is a result of Southerners and Far Leftists having their way.<br /><br /> After the U.S.-Mexico border fence is built, we need another one parallel with the Mason-Dixon line. Call it Hadrian's Wall 2"<br /><br /><br /><br />- Actually, if it were built in modern day America, it would be keeping the denizens of the failed liberal NE and west coast from invading the South. That's the direction the traffic is going.<br /><br />While you can be forgiven for going along with the spoonfed assumptions of the leftwing media that whites in Southern states are a bunch of mouthbreathing alcoholic dimwit whites having sex with their sisters, the reality is that you're told this because it helps promote the agenda of the left. <br /><br />The reality is that blacks depress the average performance of test scores in some southern states, and that whites are as talented as elsewhere and if anything have their heads more clear there about race, about conservative economic ideas, etc. But reality runs counter to the narrative, so the hordes of Deliverance nonsense is what the media feeds you.Brandon H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-23071211128975574622012-11-30T04:19:39.366-08:002012-11-30T04:19:39.366-08:00Anonymous 11/29/12 4:02 PM said...
I don't th...Anonymous 11/29/12 4:02 PM said...<br /><br /><i>I don't think the Hispanics are racialized. I think the thing with Hispanics is as simple as they are poor and they see the GOP as the party of the rich. In their own country there are parties for the rich and parties for the poor too. These people are low IQ but they aren't retarded.</i><br /><br />Hispanics Left-wing DEM voting tendency may be over-determined, on both economic, ethnic and possibly ethical grounds. <br /><br />Most commentary on Hispanic voting concentrated on the increase in overall share of the voting electorate, from 9% (2008) to 10% (2012). And the increasing preference for DEMs over REPs, going from 65% (2008) to 70% (2012).<br /><br />But these aggregate figures have to be broken down by income to factor out class-based partisan alignment. Most Hispanics will vote DEM on economic equity grounds because, for whatever reason, they earn below-average wages and want some progressive redistribution.<br /><br /><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324469304578143381592723800.html" rel="nofollow">Steven Malaga of the WSJ</a> observed the strong connection between Hispanic economic class and partisan alignment:<br /><br /><i>Among Latino voters whose total family income is below $50,000, 82% voted for Obama while 17% voted for Romney.</i><br /><br />But even controlling for income, most Hispanics still seem to vote DEM. Possibly on ethnic identity grounds because, for whatever reason, their race is considered lower-status and they want the DEMs to administer a societal status elevation. <br /><br />The <a href="http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/" rel="nofollow">Pew Centre exit poll</a> analysis revealed that even relatively well-off Latino voters still tended to lean strongly to the DEMs:<br /><br /><i>Among Latino voters with family incomes of $50,000 pa or more, 59% voted for Obama while 39% voted for Romney.</i> <br /><br />This compares with the generic voter who earned > $50,000 pa, whose vote split 53 REP-47 DEM. So the typical well-off Hispanic voter was at least 15% more DEM leaning than the generic voter. Probably more like 20% more DEM leaning if you discounted the Hispanic voters from the non-Hispanic voting public. <br /><br />So at least 20% of Hispanic DEM-preferencing is unexplained by income differentials. Thats 20% of 10% of the voting population, about 2% of the total vote. Enough to swing the election. If this fraction is ethnically motivated then the REPs are doomed, even if Hispanics get to own homes and buy stocks and the REPs come to their senses.<br /><br />Of course its always possible that Hispanics lean DEM on general ethical grounds, given that the REPs having been acting plumb crazy for the past decade or so.jack strocchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17534084770633227131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-58865082585500532082012-11-30T02:24:53.823-08:002012-11-30T02:24:53.823-08:00Anon @950,
How would TX look if all that Federal ...Anon @950,<br /><br />How would TX look if all that Federal money went away? And the current prosperity is pure Southern, absolutely no outside role. It's like the Indians taking credit for the British built railways.<br /><br /><br />And TX's past prosperity, like the prosperity of the Saudis, was based on oil. That is to say, semi-savages happened to be on some profitable real estate, real estate made profitable thanks to the development of more advanced civilizations who needed their black gold. Without oil and the Fed gov, TX would still be a cotton and beef producing backwater, characterized by rural decadence except in some of the more German and Czech districts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30613466624176185362012-11-29T23:38:07.888-08:002012-11-29T23:38:07.888-08:00However, realistically, anyone who is white and co...<i>However, realistically, anyone who is white and conservative already votes for the Republicans, so getting a higher white vote than Romney (60%) means turning left-leaning whites to the Republican party.</i><br /><br />I think it is realistic for a good GOP candidate to get 65% of the white vote. First, a number of whites did not even vote. Second, 1 to 2 percent of whites voted for a third party. Third, there are still whites who vote democrat because they hate the GOP as the party of the rich and the war mongers. I think there are some who hate the GOP's social positions. But I think the GOP would gain more support if they adopted a Pat Buchanan approach to trade and foreign policy then they would by ditching their social stances. <br /><br />Personal anecdote, I know a guy who votes democrat who is a demographer's nightmare. This guy owns guns, uses racial slurs and yet voted for Obama because he is convinced the GOP is only out for the rich. I am not saying there are too many white males like him, a blue-collar, middle class, gun toting, non-PC, white male who votes democrat. But who knows it might represent a percentage point on two. And the GOP only needs to pick up about 4 to 5 percentage points to make the Sailer strategy work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-14179565670826977972012-11-29T23:24:25.616-08:002012-11-29T23:24:25.616-08:00your blissful California childhood was, in part, d...<i>your blissful California childhood was, in part, due to the absence of large numbers of 3rd world peasants</i><br /><br />Right--he wasn't up in Bakersfield, with the Dutch/Scandinavian OkiesAlcalde Jaime Miguel Curleohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11801154986193443160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-38265075645661748122012-11-29T23:14:31.030-08:002012-11-29T23:14:31.030-08:00The GOP stands for lowering wages through illegal ...The GOP stands for lowering wages through illegal immigration and lowering taxes for billionaires, not advancing the welfare of white people. What's the point of winning if it means betraying everything you stand for? When you understand that they'll take your votes, but they'll never represent you, you may finally have some practical advice for whites in your country. As long as you're clinging to the delusion of Republican reform you're a lost cause.Timshelnoreply@blogger.com