tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post9024847651305002994..comments2024-03-28T16:22:14.888-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The Israeli Connection: personal rather than strategicUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-24383737967343447852008-08-17T20:10:00.000-07:002008-08-17T20:10:00.000-07:00"headache said...Many Germans still have legal cla..."headache said...<BR/><BR/>Many Germans still have legal claims on their private properties in Poland which were just nationalised by the Russians and Poles without compensation. And the legal and political battle about this is far from over."<BR/><BR/>I suppose the Poles could then counter-sue for lost wages, damages, and pain-and-suffering for the millions of Poles whom the Germans killed in WWII. They might also throw in the bill for rebuilding Warsaw, which the Germans systematically razed.<BR/><BR/>"Russia needs to hand out some territory to Poland as well."<BR/><BR/>Primarily, it would be the Ukraine that would have to return territory to Poland. But I don't think that's going to happen either.<BR/><BR/>World War II is over, and it'd be best to let sleeping dogs lie: borders as they are, and facilitate the exmigration of minorities who find themselves on the wrong side of the border. Europe has far bigger problems than 60 year old grudges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-88621224497972323082008-08-17T17:55:00.000-07:002008-08-17T17:55:00.000-07:00A good rule of thumb is that plucky little countri...A good rule of thumb is that plucky little countries aren't to be trusted.Baloohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245765878554696634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66382684459290391772008-08-17T16:06:00.000-07:002008-08-17T16:06:00.000-07:00Khordokovsky is a Russian patriot HAHAHAHHA. That'...<I> Khordokovsky is a Russian patriot </I><BR/><BR/>HAHAHAHHA. That's why the "American patriot" Richard Perle went to bat for him, right? Because they're both Russian and American patriots. Not because they're both of the same ethnicity. That would have nothing to do with it. <BR/><BR/>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1011746/posts<BR/><BR/><I> Staff Writer Richard Perle, a hawkish policy adviser whose voice is heard in the Pentagon, has called for Russia to be expelled from the Group of Eight industrialized countries over the arrest of Yukos CEO Mikhail Khodorkovsky. </I><BR/><BR/>If you believe that Khordokovsky or Perle have any allegiance whatsoever to the countries they temporarily inhabit, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. It's no coincidence that Gusinsky made haste for Israel as soon as he could; Khordokovsky just couldn't get out in time: <BR/><BR/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1295963.stm<BR/><BR/><I> Russian media tycoon Vladimir Gusinsky has flown from Spain to Israel, apparently in a new bid to escape the clutches of Moscow prosecutors </I><BR/><BR/>No doubt the Ashkenazim want to make Khordokovsky into a martyr, just like they made the Communists blacklisted by Hollywood into martyrs. Eventually, they got back into power and demonized anyone and everyone who cracked down on Communists. But of course Venona, Sam Dickstein, etcetera show that there *were* Communists -- and that McCarthy was mostly right. <BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Dickstein_(congressman)<BR/><BR/><I> Samuel Dickstein (February 5, 1885 – April 22, 1954) was a Democratic Congressional Representative from New York, and a New York State Supreme Court Justice. He played a key role in establishing the committee that would become the House Committee on Un-American Activities, which he used to attack fascists, including Nazi sympathizers, and suspected communists. Unbeknownst to his contemporaries, he was on the payroll of the Soviet Union's spy agency in 1937-40. </I><BR/><BR/>That's the same story here. Any crackdown on their predictable shenanigans in any country means demonization of the responsible authority figure, whether it be Charles Lindbergh, Joseph Breen (who enforced the Hays Code, temporarily staving off Ashkenazi influence for the ~20 years of Hollywood's golden age), Joe McCarthy -- or Vladimir Putin. <BR/><BR/>No one can criticize or oppose Jewish influence without being accused of genocidal intent. But anyone can point out that (say) the Russians were way too aggressive without anyone accusing them of wanting to kill all Russians. <BR/><BR/><I> because he has (a perhaps misplaced) faith in Russia's potential to be a civilized, European country. </I><BR/><BR/>Translation: the Ashkenazim want Russia to be a "civilized" country (with "press freedom") for the same reason they want it in China -- so they can "respond to stereotypes". <BR/>This will result in the predictable onslaught of stories about honor student illegal aliens, peaceful Muslims, and the racist/sexist/homophobic males who need to change their culture for the benefit of the immigrants. <BR/><BR/>In today's world, a press which is not explicitly nationalist will be controlled by the Ashkenazis. And an Azhkenazi press means an anti-nationalist press. <BR/><BR/>Anti-nationalism goes hand in hand with anti-biological sentiment. <B>Wherever the Ashkenazim live, they feel the need to pronounce themselves indistinguishable from the majority population.</B> This starts with the process of attacking people for even stating that someone is Jewish. "What does THAT have to do with it!", comes the predictable outcry. <BR/><BR/>Yet every other group is labeled. For example, head scratchers are regularly published on Condoleeza's blackness or Bill Richardson's Mexican ancestry...but it is career death to start rattling off Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle, Ledeen, Sharansky...and by the time you get to Abram Shulsky and the Office of Special Plans, you've done enough labeling and pattern recognition for a lifetime. <BR/><BR/>Don't take my word for it -- it is laid out in many Jewish publications. See "responding to stereotypes" here in the JPPPI's plan for China: <BR/><BR/>http://www.jpppi.org.il/JPPPI/SendFile.asp?DBID=1&LNGID=1&GID=456<BR/><BR/>And see the goals of George Soros' Open Society here: <BR/><BR/>http://www.soros.org/initiatives/regions/central-eastern_europe<BR/><BR/>Media Program<BR/><BR/><I>The Media Program assists in the development and establishment of media systems marked by freedom, pluralism, and <B>the inclusion of minority voices and opinions.</B> </I><BR/><BR/>It's never about the greatest good for the greatest number for these guys. Never about leaving the culture and traditions of ancient nations unmolested. It is always about "minority rights"...meaning the benefit of a small fraction of society at the expense of the majority. How coincidental that they happen to always be part of that small fraction...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7975386884040772602008-08-17T10:35:00.000-07:002008-08-17T10:35:00.000-07:00The oligarchs may have taken advantage of the chao...The oligarchs may have taken advantage of the chaos to take over Russian industries, but the situation isn't much better today; the only difference is that the <I>siloviki</I> have killed or chased out the oligarchs, so now the siloviki are the new oligarchs. Khordokovsky is a Russian patriot, who could have easily left Russia - or become a pawn of Putin - and kept his fortune and his freedom. Instead he has gone to prison in Siberia and chosen to fight his trumped up charges through the courts, because he has (a perhaps misplaced) faith in Russia's potential to be a civilized, European country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7200342791371466122008-08-17T08:06:00.000-07:002008-08-17T08:06:00.000-07:00One minor historical point,Putin did not “throw ou...One minor historical point,<BR/><BR/>Putin did not “throw out” all of the Jewish Oligarchs of Russia as some paleocons claim he did. Putin only went after a handful of the Oligarchs who were Jewish primarily because they weren’t playing ball – politically and economically speaking - with the Kremlin. Putin did not go after the vast bulk of the remaining Jewish Oligarchs because Putin made it clear who was boss once he was first elected President. Once Putin asserted himself, the Oligarchs just acclimated themselves to Putin’s rule and Putin and the remaining Oligarchs seem fine with the current relationship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63917429961601705732008-08-17T05:05:00.000-07:002008-08-17T05:05:00.000-07:00American carpetbaggers colluded with Muscovite Sca...<I> American carpetbaggers colluded with Muscovite Scalawags to loot the Russian nation. Breaking a pledge to Mikhail Gorbachev, we moved our military alliance into Eastern Europe, then onto Russia's doorstep. Six Warsaw Pact nations and three former republics of the Soviet Union are now NATO members." </I><BR/><BR/>Things are a bit more complicated than Buchanan's line of argument here. <BR/><BR/>1) Truth: Andrei Shleifer and Jeffrey Sachs and the rest of the Harvard gang set up Russia to be looted by Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Abramovsky, Khordokovsky, et alia (6/7 of the oligarchs were Jewish). Shleifer was indicted on corruption charges...and Jeffrey Sachs was the "brains" behind Live Aid, to "end" extreme poverty in Africa. <BR/><BR/>So: looting of Russia did happen. <BR/><BR/>2) Regarding Warsaw Pact/ex-USSR nations joining NATO...I think an old school anti-communist Buchanan has to know that a lot of those countries (Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, etc.) reasonably *hated* and *feared* Russia after being under the Soviet boot for so many years. Of course they want to join the US led alliance for security guarantees. Buchanan was all for them back in the day when they were resisting the Soviet boot, so what's changed now? <BR/><BR/>3) Obviously, what's changed is that Russia has done a 180. As the USSR it was exporting leftism all over the world. Today, it's the most right wing nationalist white country. As such Buchanan is sympathetic to it. This is understandable, though one needs to keep in mind that Russia acts in addition to being acted upon. <BR/><BR/>I think it's possible to have a reasonable stance on Russia. Russian nationalism is good when it's constructive & defensive -- devoted to building up Russia's economy & fertility, which goes hand in hand with ejecting the oligarchs. And it's bad when it leads to cyberwar against a modernizing, prosperous country like Estonia, or riots in Latvia. <BR/><BR/>4) A ticking time bomb in a lot of these countries (Georgia definitely included) is the population of ethnic Russians. Many of them were forcibly moved there by Stalin and the Soviets to Russify the regions, kind of like China is doing with Tibet. These Russians are often seen as Soviet legacies by the indigenes, and have a habit of rioting and looting when the host countries do something that they perceive to be against Russia -- for example, see the riots against the Soviet Story film (www.sovietstory.com). <BR/><BR/>In this respect, Russian minorities are kind of like Muslims, except with a nuclear power at their back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-22728579403105925742008-08-17T03:28:00.000-07:002008-08-17T03:28:00.000-07:00Martin,Poland has been on the take from the US, EU...Martin,<BR/>Poland has been on the take from the US, EU and NATO for quite a while. They have cashed in much more than their weight justifies. I doubt NATO or the US would go to war for Poland. Poland is not really a heavyweight, just a shrill place sitting on 50% territory which belongs to the German 2nd Reich (Weimar). Many Germans still have legal claims on their private properties in Poland which were just nationalised by the Russians and Poles without compensation. And the legal and political battle about this is far from over. Russia needs to hand out some territory to Poland as well. The reason Poland attacks Germany so often is because they know they are sitting on a powder keg. When the German private property claims become mainstream Poland will be halved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-69743409473430954272008-08-16T20:42:00.000-07:002008-08-16T20:42:00.000-07:00Not all Jews are anti-Russian. Far from it. I he...Not all Jews are anti-Russian. Far from it. I heard a Russian Jew call Rush Limbaugh this past week to defend Russian's actions in Georgia. <BR/><BR/>But Steve is absolutely right about ethnic networks. The point isn't that all members of an ethnic group are in on a conspiracy, only that networks tend to flow along ethnic lines.<BR/><BR/>People of NW European ancestry are the sole group that has deracinated themselves to the point where they don't form these kind of networks easily and have a hard time understanding how others do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41126196455307097382008-08-16T17:29:00.000-07:002008-08-16T17:29:00.000-07:00"Anonymous said...They're threatening Poland now b..."Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/>They're threatening Poland now but something is holding them back. It couldn't have anything to do with Poland being a NATO member could it?"<BR/><BR/>That and the fact that the russians might actually believe we'd honor our treaty commitments to Poland, whereas they probably wouldn't take seriously the notion that we would go to war for the ancestral homeland of Joseph Stalin, whether Georgia was a part of NATO or not. <BR/><BR/>If we brought Burkina Faso into NATO, would anyone believe that America would go to war to protect it? Expanding NATO weakens NATO.<BR/><BR/>And our alliance with Poland (which alliance I very much support) is the result of our admiration for thier pluck, our recognizing that they got screwed by their bigger neighbors, and - very importantly - the not insignificant number of polish americans who have voted as a bloc during the last century. How long can that last? As whites slip into the minority in this nation, how long will our historical affinity with any european nation last? I wouldn't expect the newly minted americans from south of the border to give a hoot about Poland, let alone Georgia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19211190286660867292008-08-16T12:13:00.000-07:002008-08-16T12:13:00.000-07:00It's so bizarre how Jews always tell European peop...It's so bizarre how Jews always tell European people not to notice what they do. You present cold hard facts, and they accuse you of "imagining them." It's like the wizard of oz saying "don't look behind the curtain."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-8729533498646151982008-08-16T10:05:00.000-07:002008-08-16T10:05:00.000-07:00It's worth reading Patrick Buchanan's article "Blo...<I>It's worth reading Patrick Buchanan's article "Blowback from Bear-baiting" on Taki's Mag's website. It puts the Russian threat in its broader context.</I><BR/><BR/>Here's a choice quote:<BR/><BR/>"When Moscow pulled the Red Army out of Europe, closed its bases in Cuba, dissolved the evil empire, let the Soviet Union break up into 15 states, and sought friendship and alliance with the United States, what did we do?<BR/><BR/>American carpetbaggers colluded with Muscovite Scalawags to loot the Russian nation. Breaking a pledge to Mikhail Gorbachev, we moved our military alliance into Eastern Europe, then onto Russia's doorstep. Six Warsaw Pact nations and three former republics of the Soviet Union are now NATO members."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.takimag.com/blogs/article/bear_baiting_blowback" REL="nofollow">full article</A><BR/><BR/>This reality stands in stark contrast with the fiction that emanates from Limbaugh, Hannity, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-59032984061322428602008-08-16T08:31:00.000-07:002008-08-16T08:31:00.000-07:00It's worth reading Patrick Buchanan's article "Blo...<I>It's worth reading Patrick Buchanan's article "Blowback from Bear-baiting" on Taki's Mag's website. It puts the Russian threat in its broader context.</I><BR/><BR/>What's really sad about this is that Pat's article is an elementary school level exercise in logic and politics, and not much else.<BR/><BR/>...But it's <I>very much</I> the sort of thing supra-average American adults need to read. Shameful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-20545546615134029332008-08-16T08:04:00.000-07:002008-08-16T08:04:00.000-07:00I fixed #3's comments above:Find your "Russian thr...I fixed #3's comments above:<BR/><BR/>Find your "Russian threats" where ever you imagine them, America is back and they are going to get every inch of territory in Eastern Europe if we let them. When America manufactures a reason to take Ukraine it will have us wringing our hands and crying next and I am sure you'll find a Russian threat there too.<BR/><BR/>America was taking Georgia but something is holding them back. It couldn't have anything to do with Russia having obliterated the Georgian army, could it?<BR/><BR/>The important thing to remember is that Eastern Europe is very important to America, since we have such strong cultural ties to those countries and since they are our geographic buffer region.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-15524665636995692172008-08-16T08:00:00.000-07:002008-08-16T08:00:00.000-07:00Jews had control of Russia between 1917 and 1946 a...Jews had control of Russia between 1917 and 1946 and then again between 1985 and 2000. They're mad at Putin for wresting control from them in 2000. They'd like Russia back. When they lost control to Stalin in 1946 they started a cold war to get it back. Ideologies are fig leaves that are meant to hide the ethnic, biological nature of these struggles. When Stalin rejected the Baruch plan in 1946, they all turned from Communism to neoconservatism in a week. Paying too much attention to the personal relationships involved is like taking their ideologies on faith - it's missing the forest for the trees.<BR/><BR/>This Georgian war is a tiny front in the new cold war that's being fought for the same reasons as the first one. Russia is acting independent again and they want to get it back. <BR/><BR/>Of course there would be personal relationships, but I think they're a symptom of something larger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-81120223901270750832008-08-16T07:02:00.000-07:002008-08-16T07:02:00.000-07:00Here's some paleo blowback:For some years now East...Here's some paleo blowback:<BR/><BR/>For some years now Eastern Europeans living in Western Europe and the US were a source of support for the paleo movement. With the American paleo support for Russia, I wonder how how that's going to turn out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-55046150266808467492008-08-16T05:49:00.000-07:002008-08-16T05:49:00.000-07:00Sometimes one waits for the ripe fruit to drop, so...Sometimes one waits for the ripe fruit to drop, sometimes one shakes the tree, to encourage all the fruit, and sometimes; if the fruit is recalcitrant, one plucks it firmly and squashes it into cider.<BR/>Here endeth today's lesson in international diplomacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-17128562964135297112008-08-16T05:13:00.000-07:002008-08-16T05:13:00.000-07:00Hey Steve: Back in the USSR -- Brezhnev's USSR of...Hey Steve: Back in the USSR -- Brezhnev's USSR of the 1970s -- and for all I know long before that, Georgians and Jews were yoked together in the minds of ordinary Russians as the too-clever-by-half minorities. It was common to hear people talk disparagingly about "Shteins and Shvilis," those being the most common endings for Russian-Jewish and Russian-Georgian names. I don't know if the idiom is still current, but perhaps there is some deep old "Mercurian" affinity there. --- JDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-51391897607756032992008-08-16T03:25:00.000-07:002008-08-16T03:25:00.000-07:00"Polonium" Putin vs "We are the ones we've been wa..."Polonium" Putin vs "We are the ones we've been waiting for" Obama.<BR/><BR/>Hmmm, my money's on pooty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-4327386435818909192008-08-16T02:42:00.000-07:002008-08-16T02:42:00.000-07:00"They're threatening Poland now but something is h..."They're threatening Poland now but something is holding them back. It couldn't have anything to do with Poland being a NATO member could it?"<BR/><BR/>It's worth reading Patrick Buchanan's article "Blowback from Bear-baiting" on Taki's Mag's website. It puts the Russian threat in its broader context.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-32904232464139371762008-08-16T00:19:00.000-07:002008-08-16T00:19:00.000-07:00So we can all be relieved. The Russians didn't inv...So we can all be relieved. The Russians didn't invade Georgia because they are expanding again, they invaded because the Jews made them do it.<BR/><BR/>Great, so now that that is out of the way, how are the Jews provoking Russia in Poland?<BR/><BR/>We just have to figure that out and then we can feel fine when they march back into there.<BR/><BR/>Find your 'Israeli/Jewish' connections where ever you imagine them, Russia is back and they are going to get all the territory back they held in Eastern Europe if we let them. When Russia manufactures a reason to take Ukraine it will have us wringing our hands and crying next and I am sure you'll find a nexus of Jewery there too.<BR/><BR/>They're threatening Poland now but something is holding them back. It couldn't have anything to do with Poland being a NATO member could it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-41121826246298301762008-08-15T23:57:00.000-07:002008-08-15T23:57:00.000-07:00A lot of what you are saying in this post is true,...A lot of what you are saying in this post is true, but strategic considerations are more important than personal ones. I cannot think of one prominent Georgian Israeli in Israeli politics or business. There once was a member of knesset but he spent most of his time in Georgia doing business. On the other hand, Israel has had an Iranian president, Defense miniser and Chief of Staff and many businesmen, nevertheless relations between Israel and Iran, not so hot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52228463181284573112008-08-15T23:18:00.000-07:002008-08-15T23:18:00.000-07:00The amazing discovery by the Russian Security Serv...The amazing discovery by the Russian Security Service that Vladimir Putin was actually born in the United States and kidnapped and raised in former Soviet Union makes him elgible to run for President of the United States. Finally we have a candidate we can rally around!Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00740668904926516649noreply@blogger.com