tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post9109034433854514865..comments2024-03-27T18:24:19.683-07:00Comments on Steve Sailer: iSteve: The ignominious failure of Occupy Wall StreetUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-53754832197227466632014-02-28T17:46:15.430-08:002014-02-28T17:46:15.430-08:00DAMMIT STEVE, get out of my brain!
Worthy of note...DAMMIT STEVE, get out of my brain!<br /><br />Worthy of note, OWS didn't have Otper organizing their shyeah, or US State Department support. Nor John McCain and Mrs. Nudelman handing out cookies.<br /><br />Ultimately, though, Dave Barry kind of summed it up well<br /><br />"The Democrats seem to be basically nicer people, but they have demonstrated time and again that they have the management skills of celery. They're the kind of people who'd stop to help you change a flat, but would somehow manage to set your car on fire. I would be reluctant to entrust them with a Cuisinart, let alone the economy. The Republicans, on the other hand, would know how to fix your tire, but they wouldn't bother to stop because they'd want to be on time for Ugly Pants Night at the country club."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-67378694140386988152014-02-27T21:03:39.964-08:002014-02-27T21:03:39.964-08:00""""Bullshit,"""...""""Bullshit,""""<br /><br />You think so? Really, now?<br /><br /><br />""""most of the Tea Party supports tax breaks for rich people and importing tech vista workers.""""<br /><br />Yes, but OWS also supports H-1B visas. They weren't known for being vs illegal immigration or even a cap or restriction on immigration. As socialists they are very much in favor of open borders.<br /><br /><br />""""The darlings of the Tea Party are Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are the biggest supporters of tech worker programs.""""<br /><br />And so is OWS. That's not what they were protesting, at least not directly either.<br /><br /><br />""""They only go against illegal immigration because their base is against it."""""<br /><br />THANK YOU. In other words, the Tea Party was originally founded started by grass rooters who were white working persons and vs the influx of massive illegal immigration.<br /><br />That's certainly more than can ever be said of OWS, which, dude, what this post IS about.<br /><br />In fact, its hard to say that OWS was EVER in favor of much of anything that directly benefits the white working class as a whole. Cant think of anything that directly will benefit them SPECIFICALLY. Not in some cloudy vague general kinda sorta sense but specifically.<br /><br />Cant think of anything. Even though OWS was about 90% white in outlook, whether on the streets or in the leadership.<br /><br /><br /><br />"""but about 60 percent of Tea Party politicians support guest worker programs for cheap labor if they could get away with it."""""<br /><br />Yes they do. So why don't you take a positive step and make a difference by running for local office and work your way up thru the ranks and change it?<br /><br />Have to start somewhere, sometime.<br /><br />Oh well.<br /><br />You have a nice day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-72899919465254356982014-02-27T18:18:27.360-08:002014-02-27T18:18:27.360-08:00 anything, ironically perhaps, the Tea Party is cl... anything, ironically perhaps, the Tea Party is closer to the white working man and their ordinary goals in life. (e.g. basic needs met, job security, pension, etc) The Occupy movement was elitist in outlook and in organization. Its almost as if they were the offspring of the 60s Radicals who protested for various leftwing goals of the day. Also, it is worth noting than many former 60s protesters did show up to protest at the Occupy mvt. as well<br /><br /><br />Bullshit, most of the Tea Party supports tax breaks for rich people and importing tech vista workers. The darlings of the Tea Party are Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are the biggest supporters of tech worker programs. They only go against illegal immigration because their based is against it but about 60 percent of Tea Party politicians support guest worker programs for cheap labor if they could get away with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-21437654886965267262014-02-26T13:59:41.132-08:002014-02-26T13:59:41.132-08:00>>>No, he's really and truly notsayin...>>>No, he's really and truly notsaying said...<br />"""To the Occupy Wall St "Expert":""""<br /><br />Right back at ya, OWS 'Expert'. Top of the morning, to ye!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"""The group is still around,"""<br /><br />Hey, yeah, I know. Did you know that so is the TEA PARTY? Yeah, yeah. They're still around as well. And doing just fine too.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"""some of its related groups are still around too.""""<br /><br /><br />This is especially true in its most biggest supporters, the Democratic Party. The Democratic Platform has many of OWS's demands already in their platform and has so for several yrs going back into a couple decades now.<br /><br /><br /><br />"""They never disbanded."""<br /><br />Come on. Neither has that lone soldier out at Pearl Harbor waiting for the Japanese 2nd Attack on Hawaii.<br /><br />But as far as being directly relevant in a public policy sort of way, you know. Time to call it a day.<br /><br />Funny how once the media lost interest the vast majority just...disappeared. <br /><br />No, seriously, we know they're still around, somewhere. Anywhere. They are.<br /><br />All they have to do is simply join their comrades, ER...kindred spirits over in the Democratic Party. <br /><br />Remember, the people's socialism will be achieved gradually thru non-violent and in US especially via non-protesting means.<br /><br />OWS will get their goals achieved, all they need is patience.<br /><br /><br /><br />""""That was funny about the malaria."""""<br /><br />Yep it was. Shame it was also true. It nearly happened. So much for OWS's great organizational skills. <br /><br />But hey, all that really matters is that OWS was highlighted and heard.<br /><br />OH! I never did get to thank you guys for helping to re-elect President Obama.<br /><br />Thank you! That was very smooth and slick on OWS's part, pretending not to be a popular front or Democratic operative stooge. <br /><br />Clever and oh soooo cool how OWS did that. Twas almost believable and had quite a few fooled.<br /><br />Have a good day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-39916065200258569762014-02-26T10:00:19.044-08:002014-02-26T10:00:19.044-08:00The Koch brothers, eh? Well the intellectual level...The Koch brothers, eh? Well the intellectual level of the OWS diehard commenters is established... It's not a judgment on the policy positions(?) of OWS to observe that it sorta failed at the time, completely. It's a separate argument. When butthurt Manhattan campers are now claiming both "Our righteous movement was ahead of its time" and "We didn't really not succeed when you think about it"--together that's tough to take seriously.you racistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-18346680418196237522014-02-26T06:59:03.535-08:002014-02-26T06:59:03.535-08:00To the Occupy Wall St "Expert":
The gro...To the Occupy Wall St "Expert":<br /><br />The group is still around, some of its related groups are still around too. <br /><br />They never disbanded.<br /><br />That was funny about the malaria. <br /><br /><br />notsayingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-66230190074908435742014-02-26T05:39:35.825-08:002014-02-26T05:39:35.825-08:00OWS in Boston had a special place in the hearts of...OWS in Boston had a special place in the hearts of we center-right types. The Dewey Square parks where they camped were created by the Big Dig, the biggest public works boondoggle in US history. The people there were almost exclusively upper-class college students, mid-level union activists and ancient Ponytailaban pining for the Sixties. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-13838515800521565752014-02-25T22:55:36.700-08:002014-02-25T22:55:36.700-08:00@Reg Caesar
"I'm assuming the "vast...@Reg Caesar<br /><br />"I'm assuming the "vast majority" of these people voted for LBJ or FDR, and in most cases, both. In other words, they voted for the welfare state. By doing do, they endorsed their own dispossession."<br /><br />Nope. The media reported the violence at a ratio of 100:1 in one direction when in reality it was 100:1 in the other direction.<br /><br />If the media hadn't lied about what was happening there would have been a reaction.<br /><br />Nothing to do with the welfare state. 100% to do with the media lying.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-2964204159100141522014-02-25T19:12:47.470-08:002014-02-25T19:12:47.470-08:00""""Indeed. Ive seen similar p...""""Indeed. Ive seen similar polished bits of metal sculpture all over the place. Balls, breasts etc always the shiniest bits!"""""<br /><br /><br />Time to get your shine on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-33083153590549955132014-02-25T18:14:02.493-08:002014-02-25T18:14:02.493-08:00There is or was a bull like that on the Merrill Ly...<i>There is or was a bull like that on the Merrill Lynch campus in Jacksonville, Florida. The pizzle and balls on that monster were shiny from rubbing, with no Chinese around.</i><br /><br />Indeed. Ive seen similar polished bits of metal sculpture all over the place. Balls, breasts etc always the shiniest bits!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-87463912892283225582014-02-25T15:40:06.246-08:002014-02-25T15:40:06.246-08:00Charles isn't stupid. Quite an insight into h...Charles isn't stupid. Quite an insight into his perception on PR and power. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-36269545684833221652014-02-25T15:32:30.159-08:002014-02-25T15:32:30.159-08:00""""Wow, one mention of OWS an...""""Wow, one mention of OWS and the Koch brothers storm the comment section."""""<br /><br />Shut up. Like, OWS really speak for the working class? Grow up and get a clue if you can find one.<br /><br /><br />""""Sure, Occupy was a failure in the end""""<br /><br />NO, it was a failure from the beginning. I take back what I said regarding OWS having no discernible goal. Actually it did have a discernible goal.<br /><br />Obama was reelected. Thus Axelrod's faux 'grass roots' group achieved its ends.<br /><br /><br /><br />"""due largely to its unwillingness to unify around any one achievable goal.""""<br /><br />Just answered this part. Obama was reelected so it did achieve one discernible goal.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"""It did bring some light to the issue of income inequality.""""<br /><br /><br />What? You actually mean to say that there's always been rich people and poor people like, forever in human history? <br /><br />Really?<br /><br />Seriously?<br /><br />No, can't be! Everyone knows we've always been the same!<br /><br />You're serious, right?<br /><br />Dang. There's actually rich people and poor people and they're not all the same, income wise. <br /><br />Dang. Who'd a thought it?<br /><br />Dang.<br /><br />Wait, cause of the statue in Wall St area, the actual word would be dong, like in China, right? And we are talking about bull testicles, right?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />""""Its failures weren't exactly glorious, but at least they were fighting for themselves.""""<br /><br /><br />And Obama's reelection. Forgot that part, oh well.<br /><br />Yes, they were definitely fighting for themselves alone and NOT for others in this country. You finally agree, thank you!<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />""""What have all you republican and libertarian bootlickers ever done except endlessly whine about taxes and birth certificates""""""<br /><br />Hold it hold it. Say what now?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />"""on behalf of the same international plutocracy that's been destroying your economy, culture, and families for the last 60 years?""""<br /><br />Ok, would you mind turning off your inner Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Adolph, and Kemer Ruhge? Huh? Cause frankly, it's getting a little old, red, and tiresome at this point.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />DONG<br /><br />QEDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-73220798343922115072014-02-25T15:25:42.481-08:002014-02-25T15:25:42.481-08:00Wow, one mention of OWS and the Koch brothers stor...<i>Wow, one mention of OWS and the Koch brothers storm the comment section.</i> --anonymous (of course)<br /><br />OWS agrees with the Kochs on immigration policy, i.e., the very definition "America" to future generations. Why would they do this, unless they were on the payroll of the Kochs as well?<br /><br />Oh, I get it… they're on the Soros payroll instead. Wow! Big improvement!<br /><br />Whose payroll are you on?Reg Cæsarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-63545567814350260032014-02-25T14:35:33.980-08:002014-02-25T14:35:33.980-08:00"Interestingly Prince Charles has said that i..."Interestingly Prince Charles has said that if George had just troubled himself enough to have gone across the ocean once or twice on a 'royal tour' to see the colonists, the revolution would probably never have happened."<br /><br />He's probably right in all likelihood.Bertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-44137371905882566072014-02-25T14:09:42.770-08:002014-02-25T14:09:42.770-08:00Wow, one mention of OWS and the Koch brothers stor...Wow, one mention of OWS and the Koch brothers storm the comment section.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-56938119687169121192014-02-25T13:20:26.965-08:002014-02-25T13:20:26.965-08:00"If George III had been an American king we w..."If George III had been an American king we would probably still have an monarchy".<br /><br />Interestingly Prince Charles has said that if George had just troubled himself enough to have gone across the ocean once or twice on a 'royal tour' to see the colonists, the revolution would probably never have happened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-27340948123090549542014-02-25T13:07:11.640-08:002014-02-25T13:07:11.640-08:00"but it's important to remember that we&#...<i><br />"but it's important to remember that we're living in pretty much the wealthiest, most peaceful, freest and most fair time and place in human history."<br /><br />Funnily enough that exactly the same argument the old colonials used to ask the locals not to try get rid of colonial rule. <br /></i><br /><br />You know, Canada isn't that bad of a place. <br />Nor is Australia, New Zealand, etc.<br />Frankly, British colonies that were populated by the British were pretty much destined to turn out well.Geoff Matthewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07335872605196107867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-80444642731949796592014-02-25T12:58:21.847-08:002014-02-25T12:58:21.847-08:00Chinese like to rub the testicles of the bull for ...Chinese like to rub the testicles of the bull for good luck? Well sir,if any Chinese ladies want some good luck and are looking for some testicles to rub...call me.joshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-52897950932576282892014-02-25T12:53:51.040-08:002014-02-25T12:53:51.040-08:00the American establishment's police, budget an...<i>the American establishment's police, budget and firepower are about a zillion times more powerful and effective than the Ukrainean government's</i><br /><br />It's interesting that Hagel today announced cuts to reduce the size of the military to 1940 manpower strength, however, special forces will increase. This may make sense if your enemy is not rolling through the Fulda Gap with 5000 tanks, but is a bunch of Iraq veterans camped out on The Mall because their VA benefits got cut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30869323864064365712014-02-25T12:35:56.010-08:002014-02-25T12:35:56.010-08:00Over the last sixty years the vast majority of the...<i>Over the last sixty years the vast majority of the people i come from have been violently ethnically cleansed…</i> --anon<br /><br />I'm assuming the "vast majority" of these people voted for LBJ or FDR, and in most cases, both. In other words, they voted for the welfare state. By doing do, they endorsed their own dispossession. <br /><br />Some of you are under the delusion that the welfare state is good for the white man. This is impossible. Because the white man is the most likely to "throw the bums out" for incompetence or corruption, he is the least desirable of the world's peoples to serve the purposes of the welfare state. Hence, he will be replaced by the more reliable. <br /><br />What, you ask? The welfare state is meant to serve the purposes of the white man (who funds it), not vice versa? Wow! You <i>are</i> delusional!Reg Cæsarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-71615706833623182072014-02-25T12:34:15.999-08:002014-02-25T12:34:15.999-08:00DR says this is the
wealthiest time in history.
...DR says this is the <br /><br />wealthiest time in history.<br /><br />And it is<br /><br />For people like him<br /><br />Who work in finance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-89824557225059603412014-02-25T11:04:38.215-08:002014-02-25T11:04:38.215-08:00Basically, I agree with the posters who said owser...Basically, I agree with the posters who said owsers were the sons of the 10% asking in polite terms where their cushy government and NGO jobs were. And it looked fabricated from the top down. Sometimes you need to push people to the streets to defuse worse demonstrations. BB753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-19927607840209841082014-02-25T10:55:22.133-08:002014-02-25T10:55:22.133-08:00Sure, Occupy was a failure in the end, due largely...Sure, Occupy was a failure in the end, due largely to its unwillingness to unify around any one achievable goal. It did bring some light to the issue of income inequality. Its failures weren't exactly glorious, but at least they were fighting for themselves.<br /><br />What have all you republican and libertarian bootlickers ever done except endlessly whine about taxes and birth certificates on behalf of the same international plutocracy that's been destroying your economy, culture, and families for the last 60 years?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-30245426730939283182014-02-25T10:40:01.932-08:002014-02-25T10:40:01.932-08:00What struck me about OWS was that ill-kempt Lefty ...<i>What struck me about OWS was that ill-kempt Lefty protestors were taking their campaign right into the beating heart of, well, uh, middle-class Lefty neighborhoods: downtown Manhattan, which votes about 70% Democratic, downtown Washington DC, which votes about 90% Democratic and, of course, college campuses. </i><br /><br />Good point here. During the OWS craze, I was living in Austin, another middle-class, mostly white, left-wing city. The movement there was vigorous indeed! It started in October 2011 with people camping out at City Hall. They were indulged until a large movie and music festival, South by Southwest, occurred in March 2013. The "movement" is still ongoing and several groups meet under its banner (all silly left-wing crap). Marissahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734624055833603768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9430835.post-7125817861523052782014-02-25T10:33:33.419-08:002014-02-25T10:33:33.419-08:00Atop all that, with their typical contempt for mid...<b>Atop all that, with their typical contempt for middle class industriousness and other "bourgeois" values the OWSers failed in logistics - they organized no substantial, no credible means to house and feed themselves - instead they resorted to appeals for charity. They also failed to police themselves, mostly in their failure to keep bums, winos, druggies, opportunists, criminals, and other parasites away from their ramshackle encampments. The OWSers didn't have one tenth of the logistical smarts, discipline, or know-how of the 1930's Veterans Bonus Army, let alone of the thoroughly organized, prepared, deeply committed, and implacably determined rebels in the Ukraine.</b><br /><br />It's highly likely that the NYPD was sending the bums, winos and druggies into the OWS encampment to mooch and make OWS's image worse. Lugashnoreply@blogger.com