Funny, as a white Christian I wrack my brains daily trying to reconcile a minimum of cultural identity with the Gospel which seems to discard and disown any such identity, at least in modern theological terms. However for blacks it seems there exists a very different kind of theology. Obama is rabble rousing and explicitly using race to mobilize the clergy(!) audience, yet no-one even picks up the obvious contradiction between what these black clergy like to preach to whites (in the US, in Europe and in South Africa) on the one hand, and their total comfort with the most basic black racism on the other. Amazing! Thanks for pointing this out Steve.
Imagine the perpetual scolding we will receive from this man if he's elected.
I have stopped listening to black politicians. Their political speech is nothing but a variety of riffs on race-hustling. That is 99% of what they contribute to the national dialog. Heroic heretics such as Ward Connerly are the exception.
Funny, as a white Christian I wrack my brains daily trying to reconcile a minimum of cultural identity with the Gospel which seems to discard and disown any such identity, at least in modern theological terms.
Christianity works as the framework for Western Civilization only if it's perverted.
It takes an sufficiently aggressive, and potentially violent stance to prosper in the stew of group conflict that covers the earth. It is Jacksonian Americanism that actually produces domestic tranquility. Unadulterated Christianity will only squander domestic tranquility and get you and yours marginalized at best.
If the great men who built this country took literally the sermons of the preachers, there would be no country, obviously.
Ooooh...I dunno...I just feel that Obama is really hunky. And he's sensitive, yunno? He cares about people. I think he will make an really, really good president who will show our diversity to the whole world.
Barry was forced by political concerns to upbraid the leaders of SA for trying to treat AIDS with barbecue sauce or whatever the hell it was;Steve wrote a superb piece on Barry's sojourn in Kenya,(?),confronting the lassitude,poverty and the people waiting for the Big Man to come and fix things.Point? Barry is a "mulatto" who has been working with the people Wolf Blitzer once called "so poor and sooo black",for many years. He knows whats going on. he chooses to put all the blame on white men. He chooses to be angry and confrontational--at least among his own.Guys a phoney,a liar and a racist. Elect him?? Ya gotta be kidding me!!
If the great men who built this country took literally the sermons of the preachers, there would be no country, obviously.
I don't know if that's entirely fair.
We know for certain that the Apostles carried swords, and were prepared to use them unto the very end, ergo Jesus could not have been a gun-grabbing [er, sword-grabbing] liberal peacenik - certainly not as we understand the phenomenon in the modern world.
And we also know that Jesus made very clear his position that the secular affairs of the state were completely unrelated to the sacred affairs of the soul: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Christianity works as the framework for Western Civilization only if it's perverted.
It takes an sufficiently aggressive, and potentially violent stance to prosper in the stew of group conflict that covers the earth. It is Jacksonian Americanism that actually produces domestic tranquility. Unadulterated Christianity will only squander domestic tranquility and get you and yours marginalized at best.
If the great men who built this country took literally the sermons of the preachers, there would be no country, obviously.
I partly agree. I have, for a long time, maintained that that a truly Christian civilisation would be supplanted by non-Christian ones. In the same way that a pc non-racist ethnic groups will simply be supplanted by others that aren't.
Christian clergy have their heads up their asses when it comes to human nature, and they always did, and I ask that if they know so little about this world, then why should we believe that they know so much about otherworldly things?
As for George Thorpe, the objects of his affection subjected him to a special fate. Isolated on his plantation, he received no news of the attack. One of his servants found the natives’ behavior suspect and warned his master, but Thorpe brushed his fears aside. The servant wisely fled.
Shortly thereafter, the natives fell upon the plantation and stabbed Thorpe to death. Then, it was reported, they "cruelly and felly [fiercely], out of devilish malice, did so many barbarous despights and foule scornes after to his dead corpse, as are unbefitting to be heard by any civill eare."
I have stopped listening to black politicians. Their political speech is nothing but a variety of riffs on race-hustling. That is 99% of what they contribute to the national dialog. Heroic heretics such as Ward Connerly are the exception.
Don't Rush to conclusions about Obama. Dokken him off your list of worthy candidates might be premature at this point. Sure, he is a staunch left-Winger, but do you want that Twisted Sister, Hillary, in power instead? Besides, he would be America's first black president! Come on, have a Heart.* We have too many black men on Skid Row. We need a black man in the White House for a change.
It's your choice, people: the first non-white president and the second non-WASP president or the Iron Maiden. (And don't even get me started on that Ratt, John Edwards.)
/I'm kidding, of course. I would never vote for Obama. Nor would I encourage anyone else to vote for him.
More of that is going to lead to White lobbying groups charging discrimination. It's inevitable. The Bakke case and the Michigan Case regarding Law School Admissions are the tip of the iceberg. As long as the economy expands there's enough spoils to divy up to aggressive racial-ethnic lobbying groups, when the pie starts shrinking and groups start to get worried about income, that sort of thing won't fly.
MA telling whites don't apply to government jobs?
That's a guarantee to start a white guy lobbying group by whatever name it is called. Particularly as we become more and more European, i.e. government overt control of the business environment.
We know for certain that the Apostles carried swords, and were prepared to use them unto the very end, ergo Jesus could not have been a gun-grabbing [er, sword-grabbing] liberal peacenik - certainly not as we understand the phenomenon in the modern world.
The right to possess weaponary in peacetime is mostly about symbolism. Such rights connote respect on the part of the government toward the governed. Such a right is obviously provisional upon the weapons in the question not being used in criminal acts. Unfortunately black males use guns all the time in connection with crime. Government is thus presented with two options, 1) ban guns 2) ban guns in the hands of blacks. Obviously option two is isn't a real option in this politically correct age, in spite of the fact that the government already gives different ethnic groups different treatment (e.g. affirmative action). Hence we have more and more gun control laws.
For those who say that the right to bear arms reduces crime, I admit I haven't examined the statistics, but for all I know we are looking at an arms race, and who is winning and who is losing may change from time to time. Both criminals and fearful law-abiders may have an interest in owning weapons, and furthermore availability to law-abiders will spell availability to criminals, since uncaught criminals without a record can resale weapons to all the other criminals.
Another point is that, Jesus's opionion of weapons control (if he had one) is unkown. Carrying a sword may have been his only realistic option if he wished to get from point A to point B without getting robbed/killed. You are imputing a political stance from what may have been merely one man's reaction to circumstance.
Even some of the fiercest gun nuts don't like the idea of nuclear weapons in private hands. Even for them its a gray area. When you think about it there's a gradation of weapons from a simple shotgun all the way to a neutron bomb.
And we also know that Jesus made very clear his position that the secular affairs of the state were completely unrelated to the sacred affairs of the soul:
Perhaps he was right in some personal sense but from a societal perspective disconnecting governance from religion is a recipe for eventual destruction since it creates a vaccuum wherin any pernicious religion-like philosophy parading as a non-religion may enter.
Despite being articulate, Obama isn't all that smart. Threatening a race riot if somethin don't get done for his bros will lose him crucial white votes. The black vote was all but guaranteed, no need to pander for it.
Perhaps he was right in some personal sense but from a societal perspective disconnecting governance from religion is a recipe for eventual destruction since it creates a vaccuum wherin any pernicious religion-like philosophy parading as a non-religion may enter.
Uhh, you know, there is a "religion" which is NOT disconnected from governance.
Uhh, you know, there is a "religion" which is NOT disconnected from governance. Correct, and I don't see any evidence of Islamic societies disappearing any time soon. Otoh western civilisation is disappearing. Western civilisation's religion (which sometimes parades as science) is called 'Marxism'. Why can't we just give Islam its due. Like Alesiter Crowley said, it's a manly, virile religion. It's got built in cultural defense mechanisms like the Dhimmi law. Hostile outsiders hoping to penetrate and subvert have no chance.
Funny, as a white Christian I wrack my brains daily trying to reconcile a minimum of cultural identity with the Gospel which seems to discard and disown any such identity, at least in modern theological terms.
ReplyDeleteHowever for blacks it seems there exists a very different kind of theology. Obama is rabble rousing and explicitly using race to mobilize the clergy(!) audience, yet no-one even picks up the obvious contradiction between what these black clergy like to preach to whites (in the US, in Europe and in South Africa) on the one hand, and their total comfort with the most basic black racism on the other. Amazing! Thanks for pointing this out Steve.
That started my day with a chuckle.
ReplyDeleteImagine the perpetual scolding we will receive from this man if he's elected.
ReplyDeleteI have stopped listening to black politicians. Their political speech is nothing but a variety of riffs on race-hustling. That is 99% of what they contribute to the national dialog. Heroic heretics such as Ward Connerly are the exception.
Funny, as a white Christian I wrack my brains daily trying to reconcile a minimum of cultural identity with the Gospel which seems to discard and disown any such identity, at least in modern theological terms.
ReplyDeleteChristianity works as the framework for Western Civilization only if it's perverted.
It takes an sufficiently aggressive, and potentially violent stance to prosper in the stew of group conflict that covers the earth. It is Jacksonian Americanism that actually produces domestic tranquility. Unadulterated Christianity will only squander domestic tranquility and get you and yours marginalized at best.
If the great men who built this country took literally the sermons of the preachers, there would be no country, obviously.
Ooooh...I dunno...I just feel that Obama is really hunky. And he's sensitive, yunno? He cares about people. I think he will make an really, really good president who will show our diversity to the whole world.
ReplyDeleteBarry was forced by political concerns to upbraid the leaders of SA for trying to treat AIDS with barbecue sauce or whatever the hell it was;Steve wrote a superb piece on Barry's sojourn in Kenya,(?),confronting the lassitude,poverty and the people waiting for the Big Man to come and fix things.Point? Barry is a "mulatto" who has been working with the people Wolf Blitzer once called "so poor and sooo black",for many years. He knows whats going on. he chooses to put all the blame on white men. He chooses to be angry and confrontational--at least among his own.Guys a phoney,a liar and a racist. Elect him?? Ya gotta be kidding me!!
ReplyDeleteIf the great men who built this country took literally the sermons of the preachers, there would be no country, obviously.
ReplyDeleteI don't know if that's entirely fair.
We know for certain that the Apostles carried swords, and were prepared to use them unto the very end, ergo Jesus could not have been a gun-grabbing [er, sword-grabbing] liberal peacenik - certainly not as we understand the phenomenon in the modern world.
And we also know that Jesus made very clear his position that the secular affairs of the state were completely unrelated to the sacred affairs of the soul: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Christianity works as the framework for Western Civilization only if it's perverted.
ReplyDeleteIt takes an sufficiently aggressive, and potentially violent stance to prosper in the stew of group conflict that covers the earth. It is Jacksonian Americanism that actually produces domestic tranquility. Unadulterated Christianity will only squander domestic tranquility and get you and yours marginalized at best.
If the great men who built this country took literally the sermons of the preachers, there would be no country, obviously.
I partly agree. I have, for a long time, maintained that that a truly Christian civilisation would be supplanted by non-Christian ones. In the same way that a pc non-racist ethnic groups will simply be supplanted by others that aren't.
Christian clergy have their heads up their asses when it comes to human nature, and they always did, and I ask that if they know so little about this world, then why should we believe that they know so much about otherworldly things?
A recent VDARE.com article (Jamestown - America's First Experiment in "Assimilation") comes to mind.
As for George Thorpe, the objects of his affection subjected him to a special fate. Isolated on his plantation, he received no news of the attack. One of his servants found the natives’ behavior suspect and warned his master, but Thorpe brushed his fears aside. The servant wisely fled.
Shortly thereafter, the natives fell upon the plantation and stabbed Thorpe to death. Then, it was reported, they "cruelly and felly [fiercely], out of devilish malice, did so many barbarous despights and foule scornes after to his dead corpse, as are unbefitting to be heard by any civill eare."
So much for Christian charity.
I have stopped listening to black politicians. Their political speech is nothing but a variety of riffs on race-hustling. That is 99% of what they contribute to the national dialog. Heroic heretics such as Ward Connerly are the exception.
ReplyDeleteDon't Rush to conclusions about Obama. Dokken him off your list of worthy candidates might be premature at this point. Sure, he is a staunch left-Winger, but do you want that Twisted Sister, Hillary, in power instead? Besides, he would be America's first black president! Come on, have a Heart.* We have too many black men on Skid Row. We need a black man in the White House for a change.
It's your choice, people: the first non-white president and the second non-WASP president or the Iron Maiden. (And don't even get me started on that Ratt, John Edwards.)
/I'm kidding, of course. I would never vote for Obama. Nor would I encourage anyone else to vote for him.
* Ok, that was the 70s. Sorry.
Obama the Messiah treads on dangerous ground. As another astute commenter on this site noted, preferences and racial spoils constitute an arms race.
ReplyDeleteLook at the MA Dept of Labor which has told white guys not to apply:
Link here
More of that is going to lead to White lobbying groups charging discrimination. It's inevitable. The Bakke case and the Michigan Case regarding Law School Admissions are the tip of the iceberg. As long as the economy expands there's enough spoils to divy up to aggressive racial-ethnic lobbying groups, when the pie starts shrinking and groups start to get worried about income, that sort of thing won't fly.
MA telling whites don't apply to government jobs?
That's a guarantee to start a white guy lobbying group by whatever name it is called. Particularly as we become more and more European, i.e. government overt control of the business environment.
We know for certain that the Apostles carried swords, and were prepared to use them unto the very end, ergo Jesus could not have been a gun-grabbing [er, sword-grabbing] liberal peacenik - certainly not as we understand the phenomenon in the modern world.
ReplyDeleteThe right to possess weaponary in peacetime is mostly about symbolism. Such rights connote respect on the part of the government toward the governed. Such a right is obviously provisional upon the weapons in the question not being used in criminal acts. Unfortunately black males use guns all the time in connection with crime. Government is thus presented with two options, 1) ban guns 2) ban guns in the hands of blacks. Obviously option two is isn't a real option in this politically correct age, in spite of the fact that the government already gives different ethnic groups different treatment (e.g. affirmative action). Hence we have more and more gun control laws.
For those who say that the right to bear arms reduces crime, I admit I haven't examined the statistics, but for all I know we are looking at an arms race, and who is winning and who is losing may change from time to time. Both criminals and fearful law-abiders may have an interest in owning weapons, and furthermore availability to law-abiders will spell availability to criminals, since uncaught criminals without a record can resale weapons to all the other criminals.
Another point is that, Jesus's opionion of weapons control (if he had one) is unkown. Carrying a sword may have been his only realistic option if he wished to get from point A to point B without getting robbed/killed. You are imputing a political stance from what may have been merely one man's reaction to circumstance.
Even some of the fiercest gun nuts don't like the idea of nuclear weapons in private hands. Even for them its a gray area. When you think about it there's a gradation of weapons from a simple shotgun all the way to a neutron bomb.
And we also know that Jesus made very clear his position that the secular affairs of the state were completely unrelated to the sacred affairs of the soul:
Perhaps he was right in some personal sense but from a societal perspective disconnecting governance from religion is a recipe for eventual destruction since it creates a vaccuum wherin any pernicious religion-like philosophy parading as a non-religion may enter.
Despite being articulate, Obama isn't all that smart. Threatening a race riot if somethin don't get done for his bros will lose him crucial white votes. The black vote was all but guaranteed, no need to pander for it.
ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase a goat-roping tune in the 90s, if you want to play in the trailer park, you have to have a umlaut in the band.
ReplyDeleteBut Spi-dot-dot-Nal Tap overdid it. No typesetting system lets you type a umlaut-N. Not even TeX.
Perhaps he was right in some personal sense but from a societal perspective disconnecting governance from religion is a recipe for eventual destruction since it creates a vaccuum wherin any pernicious religion-like philosophy parading as a non-religion may enter.
ReplyDeleteUhh, you know, there is a "religion" which is NOT disconnected from governance.
It's called Islam.
You can type it in Un̈icode :)
ReplyDeleteUhh, you know, there is a "religion" which is NOT disconnected from governance.
ReplyDeleteCorrect, and I don't see any evidence of Islamic societies disappearing any time soon. Otoh western civilisation is disappearing. Western civilisation's religion (which sometimes parades as science) is called 'Marxism'. Why can't we just give Islam its due. Like Alesiter Crowley said, it's a manly, virile religion. It's got built in cultural defense mechanisms like the Dhimmi law. Hostile outsiders hoping to penetrate and subvert have no chance.