thanks for the link.. Here is a quote that denies facts flatly and accuses the researchers of being criminal.
Earlier this year, Betts presented her findings to city leaders, including Robert Lipscomb, the head of the Memphis Housing Authority. From what Lipscomb said to me, he’s still not moved. “You’ve already marginalized people and told them they have to move out,” he told me irritably, just as he’s told Betts. “Now you’re saying they moved somewhere else and created all these problems? That’s a really, really unfair assessment. You’re putting a big burden on people who have been too burdened already, and to me that’s, quote-unquote, criminal.”
That was a good article but I wish the author talked with the people affected by the incoming section 8ers into the new neighborhood.
Have the people who were living in the existing neighborhoods fled from the new arrivals? I'm sure they have.
E. Michael Jones has a good book called "The Slaughter of The Cities." He makes the argument that the WASP elites wished to break up Catholic voting blocs in the big cities like Phila, Chicago, Detroit. The WASPS colluded with the civil rights loving jewish community to use the blacks as a tool to force white ethnics to the suburbs.
Now it is the reverse. Push out the blacks from the cities so that yuppies can live the urban renaissance in relative safety.
Rather than tear down the housing projects and spend money relocating the project-dwellers, why not nip the problem in the bud?
We could pay the ghetto-dwellers $35k to get their tubes tied, less if they have already had kids. It would be completely voluntary and each participant would be compensated for the loss of descendants.
Anon -- blaming the "Jews" is a useful exercise in scapegoating but it does not explain the broader pattern of movement.
People started moving out to the Suburbs immediately in the Post-War era because of cheap credit, increasing prices, and the Auto and highway system.
It gave families a backyard and better schools, separation from urban crime. Desegration and the death of Jim Crow was accomplished by whites, particularly southern whites, already living in places where there were no blacks.
For example, in New Orleans 1948-1960, most of the White working/middle class moved out of the city to places like Metarie, or the North Shore, or Jefferson Parish. They had more land, less corruption/crime, and better quality of life with better/newer schools. They were not "block-busted" they moved out because they got a better deal elsewhere.
Not all suburbs are equal. What about those with a high density of NRA stickers affixed to pickups? Would those repel the Section Eighters, or would the lower housing costs attract them?
This right-wing suburb-hater is actually happy to see the scum of the earth head out to the Levittowns. The jewels of the cities are wasted on them-- such as real churches, instead of oil cans. Opera houses, rather than "cineplexes".
A federal judge here in Dallas forced the Dallas Housing Authority to build Section 8 housing in a middle class neighborhood on the very north end of the city.
Result: gang shootings in the parking lot of the discount store across the boulevard.
Oh yeah, to improve educational opportunities there's a brand new school nearby that boasts "college preparatory" on the facade.
Rest assured it is not St. Mark's, which is where actor Tommy Lee Jones attended high school. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mark's_School_of_Texas
I'm sure some Catholic organized crime is why the WASP's had to leave their cities in the first place.
Really? I think you have causation all messed. It was the presence Catholic organized crime (I guess that means Italian and Irish mobs) that made many city neighborhoods safe for law abiding citizens to live in. That is, until Robert Kennedy's Justice Department Uncle Sam declaring war on organized crime. Prior to the creation of the Organized Crime Strike Force and the enactment of the RICO act, mob bosses kept their neighborhoods safe for "civilians" in order to keep the heat of public attention away from their mostly victimless crime activities. Even dirty cops have to act when the newspapers and politicians get riled up by crimes committed law abiding citizens.
Once organized crime started losing its war against the FBI, disorganized crime filled the vacuum and the civilians moved away to the suburbs.
thanks for the link.. Here is a quote that denies facts flatly and accuses the researchers of being criminal.
ReplyDeleteEarlier this year, Betts presented her findings to city leaders, including Robert Lipscomb, the head of the Memphis Housing Authority. From what Lipscomb said to me, he’s still not moved. “You’ve already marginalized people and told them they have to move out,” he told me irritably, just as he’s told Betts. “Now you’re saying they moved somewhere else and created all these problems? That’s a really, really unfair assessment. You’re putting a big burden on people who have been too burdened already, and to me that’s, quote-unquote, criminal.”
That was a good article but I wish the author talked with the people affected by the incoming section 8ers into the new neighborhood.
ReplyDeleteHave the people who were living in the existing neighborhoods fled from the new arrivals? I'm sure they have.
E. Michael Jones has a good book called "The Slaughter of The Cities." He makes the argument that the WASP elites wished to break up Catholic voting blocs in the big cities like Phila, Chicago, Detroit. The WASPS colluded with the civil rights loving jewish community to use the blacks as a tool to force white ethnics to the suburbs.
Now it is the reverse. Push out the blacks from the cities so that yuppies can live the urban renaissance in relative safety.
Rather than tear down the housing projects and spend money relocating the project-dwellers, why not nip the problem in the bud?
ReplyDeleteWe could pay the ghetto-dwellers $35k to get their tubes tied, less if they have already had kids. It would be completely voluntary and each participant would be compensated for the loss of descendants.
Anon -- blaming the "Jews" is a useful exercise in scapegoating but it does not explain the broader pattern of movement.
ReplyDeletePeople started moving out to the Suburbs immediately in the Post-War era because of cheap credit, increasing prices, and the Auto and highway system.
It gave families a backyard and better schools, separation from urban crime. Desegration and the death of Jim Crow was accomplished by whites, particularly southern whites, already living in places where there were no blacks.
For example, in New Orleans 1948-1960, most of the White working/middle class moved out of the city to places like Metarie, or the North Shore, or Jefferson Parish. They had more land, less corruption/crime, and better quality of life with better/newer schools. They were not "block-busted" they moved out because they got a better deal elsewhere.
Not all suburbs are equal. What about those with a high density of NRA stickers affixed to pickups? Would those repel the Section Eighters, or would the lower housing costs attract them?
ReplyDeleteThis right-wing suburb-hater is actually happy to see the scum of the earth head out to the Levittowns. The jewels of the cities are wasted on them-- such as real churches, instead of oil cans. Opera houses, rather than "cineplexes".
A federal judge here in Dallas forced the Dallas Housing Authority to build Section 8 housing in a middle class neighborhood on the very north end of the city.
ReplyDeleteResult: gang shootings in the parking lot of the discount store across the boulevard.
Oh yeah, to improve educational opportunities there's a brand new school nearby that boasts "college preparatory" on the facade.
Rest assured it is not St. Mark's, which is where actor Tommy Lee Jones attended high school. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Mark's_School_of_Texas
I'm sure some Catholic organized crime is why the WASP's had to leave their cities in the first place.
ReplyDeleteReally? I think you have causation all messed. It was the presence Catholic organized crime (I guess that means Italian and Irish mobs) that made many city neighborhoods safe for law abiding citizens to live in. That is, until Robert Kennedy's Justice Department Uncle Sam declaring war on organized crime. Prior to the creation of the Organized Crime Strike Force and the enactment of the RICO act, mob bosses kept their neighborhoods safe for "civilians" in order to keep the heat of public attention away from their mostly victimless crime activities. Even dirty cops have to act when the newspapers and politicians get riled up by crimes committed law abiding citizens.
Once organized crime started losing its war against the FBI, disorganized crime filled the vacuum and the civilians moved away to the suburbs.
Fifty years without an unpleasant encounter with a mafioso; I can't say the same about Obamites.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone's interested, Lucianne Goldberg is fronting the article this weekend:
ReplyDeleteAmerican Murder Mystery - Highly recommended weekend read. You will see why.
Note, though, that Lucianne's threads last for only about 72 hours before they're scrubbed.