Successful African-Americans — whether they are sports stars, entertainers or politicians — are often accorded a more tortured significance. In addition to being held up as proof that racism has been extinguished, they are often employed as weapons in the age-old campaign to discredit, and even demean, the disadvantaged. ...
Mr. Obama has refused to play this role, even though people have tried to thrust it upon him. ...
He underscored this point again this week when he commented on the arrest in Cambridge, Mass., of the Harvard African-American scholar (and my longtime friend) Henry Louis Gates Jr. and about the tendency of police officers to target blacks and Hispanics for traffic stops.
These remarks could change how the news media sees the president’s views on race. Up to now, he has been consistently and wrongly portrayed as a stern black exceptionalist who takes Negroes to task for not meeting his standard.
He is not happy with this characterization. That was clear in a recent Oval Office interview with the columnist Eugene Robinson of The Washington Post. Mr. Obama complained about the press coverage of his speeches and seemed especially miffed about the portrayal of the one he delivered before the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People this month.
He suggested that the news media had overemphasized his remarks about “personal responsibility” — a venerable theme in the African-American church — while disregarding “the whole other half of the speech,” which included a classic exercise in civil-rights oratory.
The president described disproportionate rates of unemployment, imprisonment and lack of health insurance in minority communities as barriers of the moment. He contrasted them with the clubs and police dogs that black marchers faced in the 1960s and said that solving present-day problems would require comparable determination.
And “make no mistake,” he continued, “the pain of discrimination is still felt in America. By African-American women paid less for doing the same work as colleagues of a different color and a different gender.”
This was no exceptionalist rant. Speaking to Mr. Robinson, the president used the first-person plural revealingly when he said: “I do think it is important for the African-American community, in its diversity, to stay true to one core aspect of the African-American experience, which is we know what it’s like to be on the outside," said the President of the United States from behind his desk in the Oval Office.
Oh, wait, I added that part after the close quotes. Never mind.
During the campaign, Mr. Obama tended to avoid direct engagement with racial issues until circumstances (a tempest over his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright) made further evasion impossible.
He reached a similar moment when he was asked to comment on Mr. Gates’s arrest at a White House news conference on Wednesday.
In a remark that became instantly famous, he responded that the police acted “stupidly” in arresting Mr. Gates when no crime had been committed and the professor was standing in his own home. Mr. Obama further noted that disproportionate attention from the police was an unwelcome fact of black life in America.
People who have heretofore viewed Mr. Obama as a “postracial” abstraction were no doubt surprised by these remarks. This could be because they were hearing him fully for the first time.
Dear National Media Personalities: Do you know what would be a convenient way for you to finally hear Obama fully for the first time? Read my book, America's Half-Blood Prince: Barack Obama's "Story of Race and Inheritance," in which I explain in straightforward prose that you can understand what Obama is saying in his autobiography.
My published articles are archived at iSteve.com -- Steve Sailer
I just wonder, in 30 years, when Barack is 70 something years old and blacks are still the most crime prone and least academically accomplished group in the nation, will he be sitting there on his rocking chair talking about the legacy of Jim Crow and the pains of modern discrimination?
ReplyDeleteFor those of us who don't like liberals, at least we can take satisfaction in eventually seeing their hopes and dreams dashed.
Actually one comment I found interesting that Obama made was "the pain of discrimination is still felt in America. By African-American women paid less for doing the same work as colleagues of a different color and a different gender." I don't think this is true. I actually did some work in this field years ago and found that once controlling for educational level, black women and white women's earnings were not statistically different (this was data from the 1980's). Black men earned about 9% less then white men. I doubt the gap has increased in the last 20 years although educational attainment may have changed.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else get the sense that, taken together, Ricci and Crowley might be to the lefty race industry what Stalingrad was to the Nazis? We look around and see rubble, but we're still standing; the mighty lefty Wehrmacht may have wrecked the place, but this looks like its high water mark on the west bank of the Volga.
ReplyDeleteObama abandoned Field Marshal Gates and his 7th Army Group to (ideological) starvation, and Field Marshal Crowley and his armies have just completed their encirclement.
It's still a long way to Berlin from here, but now it just seems like a matter of time.
"the tendency of police officers to target blacks and Hispanics for traffic stops. "
ReplyDeleteHeather MacDonald has the stats in her latest article- "the self-reported black stop rate — 8.1 percent — was nearly a percentage point lower than the self-reported white stop rate (8.9 percent). ".
This is probably a hate fact.
I don't think any Democrats, SWPLs or hard leftists had any misconception that Obama was a race man.
ReplyDeleteThey didn't vote under a misapprehension. That's what they wanted. The flagellant instinct on the left, repeated throughout human history, remains alive and well. Just as they want Al Gore to admonish them for their environmental sins, they want Obama to do the same for their racial sins.
When Obama has the gall to say the likes of Gates are the great victims of society because of evil white racism, they meekly nod and seek some transcendent forgiveness from their new Messiah.
In the past these people filled the pews of churches, but as the left abandoned religion they merely transformed their deep need for guilt/forgiveness from secular sources.
Brent Staples is not an editorialist, he's a black grievance mongerer, and an untalented writer.
ReplyDeletePolanski
"Does anyone else get the sense that, taken together, Ricci and Crowley might be to the lefty race industry what Stalingrad was to the Nazis? We look around and see rubble, but we're still standing; the mighty lefty Wehrmacht may have wrecked the place, but this looks like its high water mark on the west bank of the Volga.
ReplyDeleteObama abandoned Field Marshal Gates and his 7th Army Group to (ideological) starvation, and Field Marshal Crowley and his armies have just completed their encirclement.
It's still a long way to Berlin from here, but now it just seems like a matter of time."
No. Demographics is destiny. The demographics point to a country were racial spoils politics will be the norm. There is no way to deny that.
Now, while I don't buy the end-of-days predictions some posters on here talk about, people will look back that the current times as the "good old days."
Don't mistake winning a few small battles for winning the war.
One scenario for the future of America is, as Steve has described it, "Brazil Meets the Ottoman Empire."
ReplyDeleteBut there are other possible scenarios. I like one I call "Son of Sparta." It's where 80% of the population are slaves, dominated by (wait for it.....wait for it...can you guess?) white males!
As another poster wrote recently: "As an Asian-American I resent being repeatedly pulled over by police to answer math questions.."
ReplyDeleteIt was said many times (see also above), and each time correctly: "Demographics is destiny."
ReplyDeleteWhat does ' your, mama' mean?
ReplyDeleteBaffled Brit
Steve:
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like you should get hold the study on racial profiling that Obama said (in his press conference) undeniably proved that racial profiling was widespread.
Does it actually say that?
Fred said:
ReplyDelete"It's still a long way to Berlin from here, but now it just seems like a matter of time."
The problem is that the paradigm may have shifted. It is no longer widely acknowledged that fair and impartial treatment is the correct standard among the races. There is a growing bloc that now openly believes in the racial spoils system and that bloc is increasing. It may soon reach a critical mass. A few more anything-goes justices on the Supreme Court and the spoils system may be read into the Constitution.
"personal responsibility" is a pernnial theme in the black church? Ya dont say!
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the police report and researching Gates' career I think he consciously tried to provoke Crowley into arresting him. At the age of 58 having grown up in West Virginia he knows to deal with the police. Like many affluent blacks he probably suffers from doubts about being black enough, and as celebrity intellectual he needs all the free publicity he can get. And a lot of black kids who've never heard of him (or possibly even Harvard) now know who he is and think he was targeted by the man, just like they are.
ReplyDeleteGates was indeed arrested because he was uppity but cops routinely arrest white, Hispanic and Asian men who mouth off at them. Insulting a police officer isn't a crime and it's a shame that cops can and do arrest people for it but anyone who doesn't say yes sir and no sir to the police is an utter fool. Especially if, like Gates, they know better. I am always polite and respectful to the police whenever I have to interact with them, but I very frequently see the crazy in their eyes. Not in all of them of course but more so than the general population.
Studies have shown that police officers have a higher rate of domestic violence than the general population, sometimes significantly. I once worked in law enforcement training and students were specifically checked for domestic violence convictions were automatically turned away if they had any, suggesting that this was enough of a problem to be preemptively dealt with.
--Now, while I don't buy the end-of-days predictions some posters on here talk about, people will look back that the current times as the "good old days."--
ReplyDeleteNot to give you a hard time, but you'd better give them some serious thought. The wheels are coming off the bus.
A few years ago I did some work with AFQT data (equiv to an IQ test) and its very easy to show that Blacks, Whites, and Hispanics all have the same incomes when controlling for IQ.
ReplyDeleteI notice that everytime there is an incident that shines an unfavorable light on blacks, minorities, or women that the press kicks into overdrive to distract from the actual incident. Right now we are getting 24/7 coverage of driving while black or pictures of Rosa Parks, etc. The media could have ran the other direction with the story by doing something on black on white crime or what police have to deal with in "communities of color" vs. upper middle class white neighborhoods. Hit knee with hammer, slap head.
ReplyDelete"Insulting a police officer isn't a crime and it's a shame that cops can and do arrest people for it but anyone who doesn't say yes sir and no sir to the police is an utter fool."
ReplyDeleteIt bothers me a great deal that I have heard the sentiment from many people who have commented on this subject--that it isn't a crime to shout, scream, insult an officer. In the strictest sense, perhaps it's true that the stricture isn't against "insulting" the officer; it's against causing a disturbance or growing disorderly. (BTW, had Prof. Gates thrown insults against a regular citizen would it have been a crime in MA?)
As I understand it, each state has a different statute and there are, of course, subtlties in those laws.
However, the most troublesome part of what I hear some people saying is that this lax attitude which claims, "It's not a crime....blah, blah, blah" is the same "logic" that parents use when their child is thrown out of class for insulting a teacher.
Yes, there are school rules against disrupting a class, but you ought to see how some parents argue what constitutes a "disruption." Foul language, directed at another student or at the teacher, does not fall w/in their definition of a "disruption" just as the POTUS' saying the Cambridge PD acted "stupidly" does not fall into the category of "maligning." Yeah, sure, Mr. President.
Parents know the public schools are a mess, but they don't want to admit it's their own kids who've made them that way and their own fault for arguing insanely on behalf of their little darlings.
The worst offenders are African-American kids and parents.
What a great example for our kids and their parents.
Now, the police union is very happy with things? That too is a great lesson for our kids.
We've reached a point at which nothing has meaning anymore. Everything is mutable, negotiable, including the meaning of words.
"I notice that everytime there is an incident that shines an unfavorable light on blacks, minorities, or women that the press kicks into overdrive to distract from the actual incident."
ReplyDeleteHey look everyone, Sara Palin!
Anyone who thinks Obama is anything but a black man and identifies as anything else is a fool.
ReplyDeleteL'Affaire Gates is entering a dangerous phase in which the wrongdoers are poised to get off scot-free.
ReplyDeleteWith barely a shred of evidence, the Black Power Structure -- from City Hall to State House to White House -- was fully gearing up to lynch Crowley. Now due to Obama's last-minute wising up, it has offered to broker a deal in which Crowley lets his would-be lynchers off the hook with nothing more than a beer. Certainly not a real apology. Gates has paid no real price for his false accusations, and the rest of the BPS hasn't either. (Gates' daughter now speaks sweetly about an outcome with no need for lawsuits. Funny how Gates' talk of lawsuits evaporated once Who-Whom switched and Gates-as-defendant superseded Gates-as-plaintiff.)
Crowley, OTOH, came that close [holds up fingers] to being crucified. What in retrospect saved his ass? The lucky accidents of having a spectator snap a great photo. Of having a NAM fellow officer and a union who supported him. Of having taught a course that one cop in a thousand teaches. Of Obama having other fish he desperately needed to fry. Without them, Crowley might be toast already.
Why would I want a cozy beer with two guys who were poised to lynch me, and who still haven't even apologized for it? Knowing that when we left the table the narrative would read "White cop has learning experience about Black sensitivities," and not "Black demagogues have learning experience about fair play"?
Like Steve, I'm thinking of future Crowleys. How do we protect the next Crowley from the next Gates? Can we? iSteve commenters seem convinced that conservatives and libertarians will not be of much help.
Crowley's gonna be OK, and god bless the man, but in the spirit of cops helping other cops, I'd hope that Crowley not let Gates & BPS get away paying zero price.
-Rook
In other headlines, President Buchanan had a fine and friendly chat with Dred Scott, inviting both Scott and Master Sandford to come to the White House for a nice cold slice of watermelon.
ReplyDelete-Rook
Steve,
ReplyDeleteObama has invited Crowley and Gates to the White House for a beer or something.
We -really- need those tapes released.
This is a made-to-order incident to stir up some white guilt while the Climate-Fruad-Bill (Quick, New York experiencing second coolest July on record this year), and Health Care Bill are being considered. Nothing works against white legislators like calling them racists, so look for the pres to milk this and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.
City of Cambridge, RELEASE THE DISPATCHER TAPES, make a fool out of Gates! (That rhymed, Cornell West would appreciate that).
In solemn callousness....
The President will soon get off this race baiting streak, or at least morph back to his Bill Cosby schtick. He's got the far left guilty white vote, and the black vote locked up. It's the mushy middle he's pissing away. Moaning about race or dreaming about some utopian post racial lala land is groovy when you've got a job. I can assure you that Joe six-pack with a mortgage gives two shits about race and clearly identifies Prof. Gates as the pompous race baiting asshole that he is. The Messiah's polls are tanking because the mushy middle is beginning to peak behind the screen at the great and powerful One. He needs to get back on his hopey changey moderate unicorn before it's too late.
ReplyDeleteGuess what Axelrod. It's too late. That unicorn has left the barn.
Fred said:
ReplyDelete"It's still a long way to Berlin from here, but now it just seems like a matter of time."
The problem is that the paradigm may have shifted. It is no longer widely acknowledged that fair and impartial treatment is the correct standard among the races. There is a growing bloc that now openly believes in the racial spoils system and that bloc is increasing. It may soon reach a critical mass. A few more anything-goes justices on the Supreme Court and the spoils system may be read into the Constitution.
A race-based outcomes system is already written into the constitution and, more importantly, into the law. (One of the besetting sins of the legal profession is overrating the importance of the Constitution and underrating the importance of statutes and, to an even greater extent, administrative practice.
An entry in the Federal Register that the Department of Defense will only do business with contractors who practice affirmative action is worth 100 Riccis.)
Recently I sent our host a long discussion on a recent court case (handed down after Ricci) that said that the NYFD entry exam discriminated against NAMs in violation of Title VII. What was remarkable about the decision was that, in most cases, the exams under attack passed the 4/5 test. But they were still found to be in violation of Title VII because there was a statistically significant difference between white and minority pass rates. If that is the law (and it is), then race-based quotas are, practically speaking, a positive obligation for all employers covered by Title VII.
Successful African-Americans — ... held up as proof that racism has been extinguished... employed as weapons in the age-old campaign to discredit, and even demean, the disadvantaged.
ReplyDeleteHeads I win, tails you lose.
Baffled Brit said: "What does 'your, mama' mean?"
ReplyDelete"...the phrase "yo mama" by itself, without any qualifiers, has become commonly used as an all-purpose insult[1] or an expression of defiance."
Michael Savage has his own take on Gates:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyJDmbE26pw&feature=related
Gates created a public disturbance, and was arrested. It's the law in MA and many other places.
ReplyDeleteAs for post-racial and spoils system -- I think the outcomes are different than people think.
Whites were perfectly happy to have all the guilt and post-racial happy talk from corrupt Black pols like Sharpton and Farrakhan and so on, as long as the downsides, government spending were small, limited in scope, and confined to hell-holes where Whites had abandoned anyway: Detroit, DC, etc.
Now that Obama threatens fundamental White interests, particularly in Health care but also other areas, that's a red line. Even White women who fetishize Black Men as being "authentic" and more spiritually pure, than the evil White guys (read, beta cube dwellers next to them) don't want to forgo treatment for Breast Cancer or other ills on that account.
Obama will get as much freedom to race-bait in his "post-racial" way as he remains uninvolved in the economy.
It's not 1997 anymore. The economy is down and likely to remain down for a decade or more. Government runs everything, including hiring, firing, promotions, and work assignments. Not to mention GM, the various huge taxes to pay for expansion of social work and green boondoggles, and the like.
Obama won the first round by canceling missile Defense and the F-22, which employed White male defense workers. Women applauded this.
His health care iniatitve proposes to make White women wait a year for breast cancer screening and treatment while spoils politicking Black and Hispanic women to the head of the line, and creating more (presumably incompetent) Affirmative Action Black Doctors.
The same White women who applauded his making unemployed the Michael Douglas character in "Falling Down" want him gone now that he threatens their health. And main job opportunities: health care fields which are now dominated by women.
Obama's electoral coalition in the US Senate and Presidential campaigns always rested on White Women who were the largest demographic group. Blacks are still 12.5% nationally, Latinos still non-voting, and Whites while around 65-70% are divided by Gender and SWPL/non-Yuppies.
Obama by over-reaching in spoils politics in a prolonged recession is the only guy who can defeat him, and he's up for the job.
I think we have to admit that T99 is onto something there...
ReplyDelete"Even White women who fetishize Black Men as being "authentic" and more spiritually pure, than the evil White guys (read, beta cube dwellers next to them)"
ReplyDeleteYou know T99, if you had just printed the above, you could have saved a few minutes there.
At this point, when I see your posts, I just quickly scan for the word "beta" and read two sentences before and after.
Has a reporter ever asked Obama if he thinks O.J. did it? I'm wondering where he stands on that. It would be helpful to know.
ReplyDelete"At this point, when I see your posts, I just quickly scan for the word "beta" and read two sentences before and after."
ReplyDeleteYou know, you could offer something, anything...A koan perhaps?
"Like Steve, I'm thinking of future Crowleys. How do we protect the next Crowley from the next Gates? Can we? iSteve commenters seem convinced that conservatives and libertarians will not be of much help."
ReplyDeleteBring a friend with a camera.
Anonymous said: "L'Affaire Gates is entering a dangerous phase in which the wrongdoers are poised to get off scot-free."
ReplyDeleteDid anyone at Duke University, from the president on down, pay in any way for their publicly declared presumption of the Lacrosse players guilt?
Can you deny the truth of it, Truth?
ReplyDeleteWomen are freed from pretty much any compromises wrt Men other than pure emotional/sexual stimulation. That's the result of the unique confluence of contraception, rising incomes, and urban anonymity.
Most White women find beta-type (happy now?) cube dwelling workplace peers boring, unexciting, competitors, and bearers of unwanted sexual attention. Meanwhile AA is a wedge to batter their way to the top, while most of popular culture is oriented towards women (particularly advertising). Add to this (for understandable reasons) the Gender Gap reported by Gallup and it's pretty clear that there are serious gender differences, and women have clear preferences for men as far as type, position, and personality.
Look at the differing treatment of Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, Antonio Villaraigosa, and Gavin Newsome by women vs. John Ensign, Mark Sanford, and Blagovetch. It's not just Party, though it's part of it. It's who is beta and who is Alpha. Women forgive anything, personally or politcally, when the man is Alpha, by and large (there are always exceptions). Women almost never forgive a man for being Beta. Merely being that way (deferential to women, caring what they think, failing to act like an A-hole) generates their contempt as seen on any ad on TV.
If you accept gender and other differences, i.e. HBD, you accept women's hypergamous nature, and thus their inevitable dissatisfaction with men who are equal to them in status and position.
It would be shocking in the extreme if this did not provide a major part of political dynamics in women's voting.
Of course, all that pales when someone goes in for a mammogram and their life potentially depends on the skill and competence of the radiologist interpreting the results.
That's a great analogy, Fred! The Wehrmacht and the American left - absolutely apt! Of the ideologies of the two sides that were fighting at Stalingrad, clearly that of the Germans has been replicated here in the States and Europe. Insights like this could revolutionize the way we view history.
ReplyDeleteThanks!
"and that it's getting on Obama's nerves that the idiot press keeps believing the facade David Axelrod concocted just to get him elected:"
ReplyDeleteMemo to slow-understanding press. Change your message to suit the Axelrod-scripted plan.
Testing:
ReplyDeleteI'm writing this in a stream-of-consciousness manner and I will probably not have time to edit; keep that in mind.
I don't mean to offend you as I've read your blog and you are probably a smart and nice young man. There is however one of my favorite proverbs (Hungarian) that you should keep in mind, vis-a-vis women in the future:
The Girl who can't dance
Says that the band can't play.
I've joked about it, but the truth is, from the way you present yourself on this blog, calling yourself a "beta" is probably unfair to the normal beta, whom I characterizes as your normal working stiff who does not get all of the attention. If men were divided into Greek letter, however, we'd probably have to use way more than two; we'd have to go to at least Delta, possibly Epsilon and again, from what I've read you'd be bringing up the rear.
I'm sorry my friend, life is not fair. You're not going to get as much attention from women as Gavin Newsome or Warren Beatty. Ain't gonna' happen, but you can maximize the potential you have, how, well here's a good start:
STOP SOUNDING LIKE SUCH A FUCKING WIMP!
Why, pray tell would any woman with any value at all chose to spend her time with a man who's entire makeup in life is predicated on telling the world that he is not good enough to get a woman?
Guess what Sport, "Betas" (as you call them) get married too. Epsilons probably stay virgins forever.
If you think women don't have respect for a man on their level, come on to a fucking waitress for crying out loud. You get derided repeatedly on this board for your posts, now think about what that means;
On a board populated primarily by whiney, underachieving, unsatisfied misogynist, racist player-haters you have assumed the permanent "Beta" position. Do you have any idea just how hard that is? Well let me tell you, it's almost an accomplishment.
Now keep in mind on the internet you could be John Wayne if you wanted to, no one knows.
A couple of quick pieces of advice for you to ignore:
1) The next time you start feeling sorry for yourself try this; got to your nearest local hospital and spend an hour walking through the halls looking at the patients. If that does not remind you that you are whining nothing will.
2) Stop trying to compete with the Alphas for "Alpha" chicks. As my mother always said: "You have champagne tastes on a beer budget. You can take any broad to the gym after you start dating her.
3) No more "spreading the wealth" It's not a "Beta" problem my friend it's primarily a "you" problem. The quicker you realize this, the better.
4) If the first three don't work, just go to the freaking Phillippines and buy yourself a wife. You can learn to love her later. From what I've heard, the Taiwan, the Philippines and South Korea are veritable havens for geeky white guys (note I said "veritable" here; meaning you still won't get the best buy you will do a darn spell better than you are now) Of course that will make you a race trader but you'll have to weigh out the +'s and -'s. I know a short pudgy white guy with a funny Jew-fro who married a really hot mulatto Colombian girl way above his level and she seemed to like him. She know he a) has more money than anyone she can get back home and b) won't cheat on her or beat her. You'd be surprised how far that combination goes with foreign women.
Anyway Sport, there's your "the author wasted 20 minutes of his personal time to get absolutely no result" advice for the day.
Be fruitful go forth and multiply.
Aquilla non capit muscas.
Your friend
Truth Van Buren
"Of course that will make you a race trader..."
ReplyDeleteTruth, Testy has already testified that he's not Jewish, so stop making your subliminal digs at him for something that happened long ago.
On a board populated primarily by whiney, underachieving, unsatisfied misogynist, racist player-haters you have assumed the permanent "Beta" position.
ReplyDeleteAs opposed to Troof, who has filled the role of court jester.
I can't figure out who's the bigger congenital liar, Testy or Troof. I kid, I kid - Troof's obviously the bigger liar, no contest...and that's saying something. I mean, here's a guy who reflexively defends his race (never mind his own conflicts over being none too far from "one drop" status), with, wait for it...the argument that whites who complain about their dispossession are "whiners." How can any honest black call whites who stick up for themselves "whiners"? Well, they can't, that's how. Good thing Troof hasn't a scintilla of honesty.
~Svigor
Rook said, "L'Affaire Gates is entering a dangerous phase in which the wrongdoers are poised to get off scot-free."
ReplyDeleteBlack Sea replied, "Did anyone at Duke University, from the president on down, pay in any way for their publicly declared presumption of the Lacrosse players guilt?"
Great question. I believe that the answer is that no individuals were penalized, but the university paid a settlement rumored to be eight-figures. In other words, scot-free.
KC Johnson reports little cost to the wrongdoers, and claims that some even benefited from their presumptions of guilt.
Further proof of the need to make an example of such false accusers and their enablers. Crucify one, and the others will feel... a much-needed chilling effect.
In other news, "Gates says it's time to move on." Translation: "Crap, I sure hope Crowley Does The White Thing and this all just blows over."
-Rook
Tonight on PBS:
ReplyDelete"Wolf!" A History of False Accusations from Salem to Cambridge, hosted by James P. Crowley.
-Rook
"I mean, here's a guy who reflexively defends his race..."
ReplyDeleteIf you'll re-read my posts I rarely "defend" anything. I simply ask questions/ make statements that disallow posters from making illogical and simpleminded assumptions. Go ahead and re-read Playa. Remember I "defended" Sarah Palin when you guys jumped on her also.
"the argument that whites who complain about their dispossession are "whiners."
Isn't that what Jessie and Al have been doing for 30 years, complaining about the "dispossession" of blacks. The difference being I guess that blacks don't own 98% of everything.
No Svigor, your own issues over being an underachiever (whether they are real or imagined, I don't know you personally) do not ad up to "dispossession."
"How can any honest black call whites who stick up for themselves "whiners"?"
Brother, let me give you a little hint:
If you want to "stick up for yourself" you may want to do more than message board self-medication.
BTW what do you do for a living? Just curious; I am a freelance business consultant looking desperately for a new client before I get kicked out of my house.
"(never mind his own conflicts over being none too far from "one drop" status),"
I'm actually relatively dark skinned.