Consider three family names that are somewhat tarnished at present: Bush, Schwarzenegger, and Gibson. Yet, they all have a chance to return to fame and power in the next generation due to the ongoing changes in the electorate. We live in an age in which surnames serve as brand names in politics, and that will likely only increase as the voters become less sophisticated due to demographic trends.
It's widely assumed by the press that the onrushing tsunami of Latino voters that will slam home real soon now will lead to a Hispanic Obama, but that simplistic logic overlooks the widespread lack of charisma found among Mexican-Americans. Just as the first African-American President is of unusual background, so might be the first Mexican-American President.
Thus, there exists the odd but not implausible chance that a glamorous non-Hispanic will father a Latino political dynasty.
It's widely assumed by the press that the onrushing tsunami of Latino voters that will slam home real soon now will lead to a Hispanic Obama, but that simplistic logic overlooks the widespread lack of charisma found among Mexican-Americans. Just as the first African-American President is of unusual background, so might be the first Mexican-American President.
Thus, there exists the odd but not implausible chance that a glamorous non-Hispanic will father a Latino political dynasty.
As I may have mentioned over the years, the Bush dynasty looks to Jeb Bush's handsome half-Mexican son George P. Bush as the most likely member of the next generation to return the Bush name to the White House in a demographically altered America.
As a commenter suggested, this week's confirmation that former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger really likes chicas suggests a potential competitor for the Bushes in a Hispanicized America. Arnold is rich enough and will soon be single enough to remarry and produce a brood of half-Latino legitimate heirs to someday battle the Bushes.
And then there's the dark horse: Mel Gibson, whose The Passion of the Christ and Apocalypto are the most aesthetically impressive responses yet to the Hispanicization of America. Granted, his personal tastes seem to run toward Slavic adventuresses, but he is also rich enough and single enough to find a nice Mexican girl and have a half dozen kids who might challenge the Bush and Schwarzenegger Latino dynasties in a Mexicanized America.
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The Bush Family is done in Republican circles. Finished. The End.
ReplyDeleteI doubt Schwarzenegger wants to spend the remainder of his life raising any more children. More than likely he'll coast on whatever money and star power he still has to keep getting tail. Perhaps he can take over the Playboy Mansion when Hugh Hefner dies. He'd add cache to the brand name, and I hear the place could use some sprucing up.
As for the one Hispanic child he is known to have, that child is a boy with a Mexican housekeeper mother. He inherited most of his IQ DNA (and his upbringing) from her. What are the odds his IQ is over 100? He'll spend his life and inheritance chasing tail, too. We'll see him on some reality show in 10 years or so. Given the blotted out photos I have seen, he at least inheirted much of his father's looks, including his hair and his shoulders.
And Mel Gibson's children? No chance in politics whatsoever, and we all know why. It all has to do with a certain statement, made in a certain drunken state, to a certain policeman just a few years ago.
Gosh, a mostly Mestizo country of short brown people ruled by dynastic light-skinned, European-blooded elites. I dunno, you really think something like that could happen somewhere?
ReplyDelete"And then there's the dark horse: Mel Gibson, whose The Passion of the Christ and Apocalypto are the most aesthetically impressive responses yet to the Hispanicization of America."
ReplyDeleteI think PASSION appealed most to white Evangelicals.
And though the APOCALYPTO dwells on a tribe of indigenous primitives, I thought its hidden message was 'INDIANS WERE BLOODIER THAN THE WHITES AND COMMMITTED MANY HOLOCAUSTS LONG BEFORE WHITE PEOPLE EVER DID'. It undermines the leftist and/or indigenous narrative that "native Americans lived in peace and harmony BUT THEN white man came and brought disease, genocide, slavery, etc." APOCALYPTO says all those evils existed (and much more horribly) PRIOR to the arrival of the white man(who at least brought the comforting myth of Christianity).
It would be like making a movie set in Africa where a black guy spends the whole time running from vicious and cruel black slavers/tribes with nary a white guy in sight.
In APOCALYPTO, the good guys are Indians but so are its Jungle Nazis.
Why not Arnold's current son by his housekeeper?
ReplyDeleteMr Aubrey has overlooked the possibility of Mr Gibson marrying a Jewish Hispanic woman.
ReplyDeleteHmmm...
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree with you about Mel's movies, but he has no self-control and many of his children seem to be of the same kind.
He could marry a Mexican woman as I think his experiences with his ex-girlfriend burned him so badly, that he may suffer PTSD if he so much as glances at a Russian (she was nothing at all like poor, long-suffering Robyn).
But then we're back to the same problem: Mexicans have problems with alcoholism, too. Wouldn't bode well for his hypothetical progeny. Of course, that didn't stop Ted Kennedy.
I just don't see it happening with Jeb's line.
And Maria may stay with Arnold.
Mexicans don't seem to catch fire in American, especially Mestizos. The more European type of Hispanic does much better.
ReplyDeleteWill we have the growth of a stronger class system in the US based on race? I have a friend from Mexico - he is half German and half Mexican - and he looks about 90% European with maybe a smidge of Mestizo. He has talked pretty openly about "the lower classes" in Mexico and has no desire to be associated with them.
He married a blonde.
If Gibson's heirs have a chance, maybe you should find a nice Latina and give her some of that old drunken sailer seed
ReplyDeleteHow did Passion and Apocalypto do with hispanic audiences, do we know? I could see the former hitting big not as sure about the latter. You've written some interesting stuff about the growing hispanic market's influence on the kind of movies we're getting and will presumably continue to get. It would be great for someone to push further in the field of "has mass appeal to hispanics yet isn't lousy."
ReplyDeleteAnd it would be funny for Gibson to keep his career going on the support of the Left's newly elected people.
"And Mel Gibson's children? No chance in politics whatsoever, and we all know why."
ReplyDeleteMTWFP.
In a "Hispanicized America" Carrot-top could be elected senator and Carol Doda appointed secretary of the treasury. The best way to visualize how dumb our society is going to become is to actually visit Mexico.
By the way, speaking of visualizing things, now that Isabel Castillo's image has been plastered on VDare's home page, can somebody please digitally alter it so she looks 100 lbs heavier -- which she will be in 6 years after the first of many spawn by multiple inseminators.
Have you seen George P. Bush's Nordic looking wife?
ReplyDeleteHow's he supposed to father a Hispanic dynasty with her?
How exactly was The Passion of the Christ a response to the Hispanization (actually Amerindianization) of America?
ReplyDeleteYou're posting too much. We can't keep up.
ReplyDeleteNo offense, Jack, but your comment brings to mind the image of a man with a heavy wet blanket smothering a child as it emerges from the womb.
ReplyDelete"We live in an age in which surnames serve as brand names in politics."
ReplyDeleteWorldwide this is now less true than it was at almost any other time in recorded history. The Carolingians, the Capetians, the Bourbons, the Hapsburgs, the Hohenzollerns, etc. - THOSE were brand names in politics.
Since by its nature liberalism isn't sustainable, the world will eventually have to return to dynastic ways of running things. In living memory Syria, North Korea and Azerbaijan have gone back to virtual monarchy. There have been unsuccessful attempts to do that in India, Iraq, Egypt and many other countries. Eventually someone will probably succeed in every one of those. We'll soon see if Qaddafy succeeds in his.
The middle of the 20th century may prove to be the least dynastic period in the entirety of recorded history, no matter how long recorded history continues after this.
I was going to say that Clint Eastwood has a daughter with a brown-skinned news anchor named Dina Ruiz, but then I looked her up and it turned out that there's nothing Hispanic in her at all.
ReplyDelete"Her father was of African American and Japanese descent, but adopted by a family named Ruiz,[1] and her mother is of Irish, English and German descent."
In the vein of your recent tale about Schwarzeneggar and Stallone, I heard a story once from someone who worked on the set of Man Without A Face that Mel Gibson _really_ likes Fillipinas. They are kind of like Mexicans . . .
ReplyDeleteHave you seen George P. Bush's Nordic looking wife?
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't actually look that "Nordic".
She has blonde hair, but it looks like it might be bleached.
"How's he supposed to father a Hispanic dynasty with her?"
ReplyDeleteWith a smile on his face.
In the vein of your recent tale about Schwarzeneggar and Stallone, I heard a story once from someone who worked on the set of Man Without A Face that Mel Gibson _really_ likes Fillipinas. They are kind of like Mexicans . . .
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Mel has Catholic Conquistador fantasies.
How exactly was The Passion of the Christ a response to the Hispanization (actually Amerindianization) of America?
ReplyDeleteThe aesthetics of The Passion were very Latin Catholic.
"How's he supposed to father a Hispanic dynasty with her?"
ReplyDeleteWith diligence and enthusiasm, I imagine.
"You too Mel, you fucked up"
ReplyDeleteWhat about Charlie Sheen? He already is half-Hispanic, and seems keen on the whole fathering a brood by different women thing. #Winning
ReplyDeleteWrong way to look at it.
ReplyDeleteHispanics will intermarry and simply become American.
"How's he supposed to father a Hispanic dynasty with her?"
ReplyDeleteAsk your mother.
That's a "birds and bees" joke, not a "yo mamma" joke by the way; wouldn't want to give the wrong impression.
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ReplyDelete"And Mel Gibson's children? No chance in politics whatsoever, and we all know why."
MTWFP.
How are we supposed to know what cryptic stuff like this means? Searching, I get only "Mississippi Department of Wildlife, Fisheries and Parks."
Jack Aubrey said...And Mel Gibson's children? No chance in politics whatsoever, and we all know why. It all has to do with a certain statement, made in a certain drunken state, to a certain policeman just a few years ago.
ReplyDeleteOT, but what about a certain statement, made in utter seriousness, on national TV, by the president yesterday? Is that going to cost him Jewish support?
To quote the Jerusalem Post after his election, "Obama would presumably seek to avoid alienating his Jewish constituency, 80 percent of whom voted for him and also contributed more than 50% of Democrat campaign funding."
Did he alienate them yesterday, or is he still The One? I assume he calculated the ramifications before he gave his speech.
you gossip like a girl
ReplyDeleteI'd take issue with two things. First that popular Anglo culture is being Mexicanized. Steve himself concedes that there is almost no enthusiasm for anything Mexican in Anglo popular music, film, literature, TV etc. Moreover, Spanish language culture is so ubiquitous that two parallel and non-intersecting cultures exist. That of El Cucuy and Sabado Gigante, and NPR and Nurse Jackie. The two by definition cannot intersect.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, the dynasties that will be founded will be founded BY Mexican guys FOR Mexican guys. Steve makes the mistake of thinking that "Mexicans are lazy" when the Mexican-American political class around him and me are brazen with their sheer ambition.
Who are the up and comers? Why Tony Villaraigosa, who has so much power he got a wrist slap and nothing else over his comps scandal! Fabian Nunez is not going away (despite his son's murder conviction and Arnold Pardon). John Perez, Speaker of the California State Senate, is another big possible Dynasty founder.
ReplyDeleteWhat sort of dynasty are we looking at? Basically one of a metro area, or of the rapidly Mexicanizing Southwest (CA, AZ, TX, NV, CO, UT, and of course NM). Dynasties will be strong there, but weak outside precisely BECAUSE of racial politics.
Applying the Bush/Kennedy/Clinton models to the hyper-divisions along race that are already in play is well, applying the radically different past to the rapidly changing future.
"The best way to visualize how dumb our society is going to become is to actually visit Mexico."
ReplyDeleteIs this trip really necessary? I look at the illegals in our area and they remind of me nothing so much as the pinheads in Freaks. (I'm not trying to be funny or unkind, I'm dead serious.)
They have also committed serious crimes (e.g., rape, murder) all out of proportion to their percentage of our local population.
I just don't get the gleefulness here.
Can anyone imagine a Hispanic dynasty getting elected in say, Seattle, or Portland, or Ohio, or Alabama, or Tennessee? Nope me neither. Nor can I imagine a governor after Jerry Brown who will be White, either. [Quite likely Tony Villaraigosa or Perez.]
ReplyDeleteBut all those White folks chased out of California will not be wanting to vote Mexican. You didn't see many votes among the exiled Orangemen pushed out of the South for Sinn Fein.
Jeb, Arnold, and Mel - The Three Amigos.
ReplyDeleteWait, if all those mestizos and Indians in Mexico(and other Latin American nations) cannot topple the white elite at the top through all those centuries, how much of a threat are Mexicans even if their numbers expand?
ReplyDelete"The aesthetics of The Passion were very Latin Catholic."
ReplyDeleteBut it wasn't exactly Cinco de Mayo stuff.
I mentioned in a previous post that Arhnold may be more popular than ever among hispanics now.
ReplyDeleteHaving lived in Mexico a few times, I can tell you a Hollywood action hero actor like Arhnold is more popular than masked luchadores, adults playing children in skit comedy and Sabado Gigante combined. He's certainly much more popular than the current crop of Senator Carrot Tops and Sec Treasury Carol Dodas in Mexico now.
Now that he's also a confirmed hot latina chubby chaser and dropped an ethnic anchor baby, I think many latinos will return the love.
Jeb stands no chance. He's never been in movies anyone has seen and most Mexicans aren't interested in dry purporetedly rational anglo politics. Mel could add some color, but his stuff is probably too high brow for the mass of Mexican immigrants compared to Predator, Twins and Kindergarden Cop.
according to the internet mel gibson already has 8 (!) children. i'm sure that's quite enough.
ReplyDeleteDamien is thirteen years old. Dad dotes on him.
ReplyDelete"[Protestant] Orangmen pushed out of Southern Ireland [after the Free Stae was formed in 1921]?"
ReplyDeleteI have never heard that. The Irish Free State did not nationalise any of the heavily Protestant-owned industries. The first president, Douglas Hyde, was a Protestant. I admit that the Free State const. recognised the "special place of the Catholic Church" but the state was hardly like Israel in banning inter religious marriage.......
Pls elaborate....sincerely reader
"What about Charlie Sheen? He already is half-Hispanic, and seems keen on the whole fathering a brood by different women thing. #Winning"
ReplyDeleteCharlie is actually one quarter White Spaniard (as in, straight from Spain). His father is half Spanish and half Irish. They have never claimed a hispanic identity.
But it wasn't exactly Cinco de Mayo stuff.
ReplyDeleteTrue, there weren't any sombreros in the movie. But it did have the kind of Latin Catholic aesthetics and imagery that you see reflected in Mexican religious iconography.
Wait, if all those mestizos and Indians in Mexico(and other Latin American nations) cannot topple the white elite at the top through all those centuries, how much of a threat are Mexicans even if their numbers expand?
ReplyDeleteTake the unholy alliance between limousine liberal Democrats, living in their gated communities sending their kids to private schools, and big business Republicans who want open borders for cheap labor. Cross breed those folks and then inbreed them for a few generations and you get something like the Latin American elites.
If you're not Mexican, not a mestizo, not a Latin American elite type, and you care about traditional American culture and society, they are a threat.
In "Total Recall", the Schwarzenegger character chooses a chica as his fantasy female for his fake Martian vacation, then later shoots his blonde wife in the head and shacks up with the Martian chica at the end of the movie.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what Arnie's Austrian SS-captain father would have thought of all this. I suspect he wouldn't have minded.
Re Protestant Orangemen and the Irish Free State - the situation is quite analogous to California. The Irish Catholics did not engage in ethnic cleansing of Protestants, since the dominant political ideology was and is "we're all Irish together against the English". BUT the Protestants did not want to live in an officially Catholic State with strong political influence by the Roman Catholic Church and a hostile judiciary, so most left, the Protestant population of the South fell rapidly from 10% to around 2%. Some Protestants did stay, and it's not uncommon to find Protestants in the Gardai, the Irish police force.
ReplyDeleteDuring the Troubles, Britain/Ulster had good relations with the Gardai across the border who often cooperated with us vs the IRA, whereas the Irish judiciary was pro-IRA and protected them from extradition.
"Wrong way to look at it.
ReplyDeleteHispanics will intermarry and simply become American."
Cute.
They may intermarry but they won't simply become American. They will either identify as Mexican-American and/or fundamentally change what it means to be an American.
Now go peddle that sophomoric sophistry someplace else.
according to the internet mel gibson already has 8 (!) children. i'm sure that's quite enough.
ReplyDeleteThe Quiver is never full.
NEVER.
Voy a estar de vuelta.
ReplyDelete"And Mel Gibson's children? No chance in politics whatsoever, and we all know why."
ReplyDeleteI dunno. I think they're pretty much at their peak in terms of political power. If Gibson had a half-hispanic kid now then by the time he was old enough i doubt it would be a problem.
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"I think PASSION appealed most to white Evangelicals."
I thought the world-wide box-office was pretty big?
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"Wait, if all those mestizos and Indians in Mexico(and other Latin American nations) cannot topple the white elite at the top through all those centuries, how much of a threat are Mexicans even if their numbers expand?"
Threat to who?
Threat to the elite, maybe not, threat to the people who used to be 90% of the population - self-evidently.
Also people like Chavez *are* strting to take over the Latin American states. It did take a while but that may have been partly due to American help as the anti-white political groups were liable to be commie as well. As America gets weaker i'd imagine the white elites in the northern latin states will go under too.
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"Charlie is actually one quarter White Spaniard (as in, straight from Spain). His father is half Spanish and half Irish. They have never claimed a hispanic identity."
ReplyDeletei thought he was a pure blooded spaniard, but i digress from my main point.
how fucked up are we now that an actual hispanic is not hispanic. white guy from spain = not latino not hispanic. LOL! the reality is that almost none of the people we are now calling "hispanic" are actually hispanic.
might be time to start posting again about this magical, flexible "hispanicness" property that can be passed on virtually by contact to anybody. except now, apparently, to actual hispanics.
Mexicans in general are docile and unassuming people. Easy to get along with, but sort of low class in a way. Violent random street crime isn't that much of an issue among them, but gangsterism does seem to be. Fortunately, the gangs generally leave you alone if you leave them alone. Mexicans also have very little interest in business or politics, so they won't dethrone whites (Asians and especially Indians might).
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of predominately Mexican communities in southern California, Arizon, Texas, and New Mexico. Not scary or unpleasant places to live, but very lethargic and low brow. If this country ever becomes majority Hispanic, it'll probably come to represent idiocracy.
Simon, on an unrelated note, how much of the British political/business/cultural elite is Indian? In America, they've done really well.
In hindsight, we should have seen the Latina thing coming with Arnold. Not only was there Rachel Ticotin in "Total Recall" but "Predator" and "Running Man" both also had a Latina cast as the lead female. Even Rae Dawn Chong from "Commando", with here mixed race background (black/white/chinese)looks like she might pass as Latina in some quarters.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if there are any comparisons to be drawn between Ahnold and John Wayne, another famous leading man who had a thing for Mestizas.
ReplyDeleteMel is 55 years old. If he wants to hatch a dynasty, he'd better get cracking.
ReplyDeleteKylie:
ReplyDeleteThat's really the question. Are they more like Italians (they eventually disappear into the white population) or more like blacks so far (some disappear into the larger culture, but some remain as part of a permanent underclass).
I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet. We're kind of playing "you bet your country" with that one.
"Mel is 55 years old. If he wants to hatch a dynasty, he'd better get cracking."
ReplyDeleteDoesn't this man already have seven or eight grown children with his first wife? he doesn't need to get "cracking." Those sorts of things are best done in the first half century.