A distinguished reader points to this from CNN:
New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is worried that high U.S. unemployment could lead to the same kind of riots here that have swept through Europe and North Africa.
Fortunately, Bloomberg has long used his massive political, media, and financial influence to increase the supply of marginally employed workers / potential rioters in the U.S.
From UPI in 2006:
From UPI in 2006:
Bloomberg: Illegal immigrants help golfers
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says golf fairways would suffer if illegal immigrants were returned to their native country.
"You and I are beneficiaries of these jobs," Bloomberg told his WABC-AM radio co-host, John Gambling. "You and I both play golf; who takes care of the greens and the fairways in your golf course?"
However, Robert Heaney, general manager of Deepdale Golf Club -- a Long Island course where Bloomberg often plays -- told The New York Daily News that no illegal immigrants work at the club.
Deepdale is "maybe the most reclusive club in America," and it "hosts maybe ten rounds per day," according to golf course architect Tom Doak in his indispensable Confidential Guide to Golf Courses. Thank God that billionaires like Bloomberg don't have to choose between paying groundskeepers a little more or putting up with fluffy lies in the fairway that might make it harder to draw a 3-iron shot into Deepdale's notoriously unreceptive 15th green. If it weren't for illegal immigrants holding costs down, Deepdale might have to let an extra two or three golfers per day play the course to pay the wages of those greedy American citizens. And then, Mayor Bloomberg might one day see another foursome playing on a different hole, which could ruin for him, perhaps permanently, the entire Deepdale Experience of having what appears to be his own personal golf course. C'mon, people, we have to get our priorities straight.
NPR had two stories this week on the widening wealth gap between whites and NAMs. Immigration was not mentioned once. (Surprise, surprise.)
ReplyDeleteHilarious. Bloomberg is really the perfect NYC Mayor, I hope he has the job for life. He's a Jew, he's kinda left-wing, he loves illegal immigration & big business but hates "racism". I think the Catholics, Jews, and others in NYC must love him.
ReplyDeleteAnd I wonder how Golf Courses kept their Greens in shape from 1925-1980 when there was little or no illegal immigration?
In my neck of woods, they paid the paid the Groundskeepers a living wage and hired teenagers to assist him along with the occasional "Willie the Janitor" types. That was in the 70s and 80s.
Later, when illegal started to arrive they took over. The Greens fees never went down though.
From CNN: "New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is worried that high U.S. unemployment could lead to the same kind of riots here that have swept through Europe and North Africa."
ReplyDeleteUh, no, they wouldn't be the same kind of riots that swept through Europe. They might start out the same but there the resemblance would end--and probably sooner rather than later.
"Fortunately, Bloomberg has long used his massive political, media, and financial influence to increase the supply of marginally employed workers / potential rioters in the U.S."
Love it.
With all those illegals coming (and some of the wealthy fleeing) from Mexico we might expect to see some of what these guys are talking about come to the US as well.
ReplyDeleteclass resentment much, Steve?
ReplyDeleteAnd I wonder how Golf Courses kept their Greens in shape from 1925-1980 when there was little or no illegal immigration?
ReplyDeleteThey didn't. Consequently not a round of golf was ever played during those years. Fortunately we have enlightened leaders like Michael Bloomberg who see the wisdom of keeping the border open, so billionaires can play cheap rounds of golf.
I have a question for Steve. How many white protestants live in NYC?
ReplyDeleteMy suspicion is that the NYC even as early as 1950 was probably less than 20 percent white protestant.
Which is why NYC became a hell hole in the 60s/70s/80s and why its basically a left-wing Jewish run paradise today.
Once the Catholics become a majority, its downhill from there. You can't count on them to "hold the fort".
I got an awesome matchup for the coming 2012presidential race .... Bloomberg v.s. Villairagosa! American wins either way.
ReplyDeleteBloomberg is going to retire in 2013. I'm really hoping that Ray Kelly, the police commissioner, replaces him then, but he's already 70 and I've heard that he doesn't want the job.
ReplyDeleteOver here, the MSM & political mainstream have worked hard to deny that there was any racia/ethnic component to the rioting/looting. A rainbow mob of no fixed ethnicity looted.
ReplyDeleteTherefore that must be true, in turn, mass 3rd world immigration into the US and NYC cannot possibley contribute to potential rioting/looting. To think so is racist.
The blame will always lie with nebulous, little understood social forces; low self-esteem, white racism, lack of opportunity etc etc
From CNN: "New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is worried that high U.S. unemployment could lead to the same kind of riots here that have swept through Europe and North Africa."
ReplyDeleteUh, no, they wouldn't be the same kind of riots that swept through Europe. They might start out the same but there the resemblance would end--and probably sooner rather than later.
New York is so parochial. People like Bloomberg, David Brooks, etc. really think that place is some microcosm of the world. They really are clueless as to how most of the country is, and might turn out to be if things get bad. They have some cartoonish visions of dread in their minds, but that's it.
"And I wonder how Golf Courses kept their Greens in shape from 1925-1980 when there was little or no illegal immigration?"
ReplyDeleteThe greens were okay, but the fairways were shamefully fluffy in places. What's the point of belonging to the most exclusive golf club in the New York area if you have to decide between putting up with an occasional bad lie or expending 0.0000000000000000001% of your net worth on higher monthly dues to pay more to greenskeepers? You are a Master of the Universe and deserve to Have It All!
Or worse, to pay for unfluffy lies, Deepdale could admit new members to share the higher costs. But that means the number of rounds per day would go up from ten to, say, twelve or even a shameful, intolerable thirteen.
ReplyDeleteBTW, what happened to all the Women multi-millionairess(s) who couldn't get an Augusta Club membership?
ReplyDeleteWhen Howell Rains was editor of the NYT this was a national tragedy that rocked the nation and kept the NYT op-ed up at night.
But now, no one seems to care.
I weep for humanity.
Where I golf, white guys tend the fairways and greens.
ReplyDeleteBloomberg's a tone-deaf idiot. He epitomizes the low "social IQ" that non-Jews the world over ascribe to and which they detest.
ReplyDeleteThere are just some character traits that drive people crazy, universally drive people crazy, and Bloomberg has them.
"Almost three-quarters of the London rioters appearing in court already have had criminal convictions. Those with criminal records have an average of 15 offenses each.”
ReplyDeleteA NAM uprising is not what Bloomberg fears. He supports the NAM influx as a means to divide, conquer and rule and prevent the real peasant uprising.
ReplyDelete"class resentment much, Steve?"
ReplyDeleteNah, they ain't got no class and we ain't got no resentment.
Anonydroid at 5:34 said:
ReplyDeleteclass resentment much, Steve?
9/17/11 5:34 PM
Hunsdon replied:
Hey, swine, at least pick a nom du internet, eh? As for your accusation of class resentment, hmm. No, we're not supposed to notice that billionaires (that's billionaires with a "b" homeboy) have actively agitated for the importation of millions (thankfully, that's just millions with an "m" homeboy) 85 IQ drywall hangers?
I was born, raised and grew up to ignore class distinctions, but if noticing that a billionaire is favoring wetbacks to reduce green fees makes me a commie, well, maybe I'd best learn the words to the Internationale.
New York is so parochial. People like Bloomberg, David Brooks, etc. really think that place is some microcosm of the world. They really are clueless as to how most of the country is, and might turn out to be if things get bad. They have some cartoonish visions of dread in their minds, but that's it."
ReplyDeleteActually, I prefer them that way. If they had a clue, they might be even more dangerous than they are in their abysmal ignorance.
I'm glad the Protestant commenters (from VDare?) get so much satisfaction about blaming everything on Catholics, more than they would from trying to form a working political alliance to control immigratin. Illegal immigration has always primarily been the cause of Protestant businessmen, just as just as desegregation, busing, and the destruction of Northern cities in general has always been the cause of liberal Protestant activists.
ReplyDeleteNPR had two stories this week on the widening wealth gap between whites and NAMs. Immigration was not mentioned once. (Surprise, surprise.)
ReplyDeleteOf course, the idea is to redirect the issue from economic issues (that the govt can do something about) to racial issues (that it can't).
The issue isn't the wealth/income gap between white and NAMs, its that wages have lagged labor productivity growth over the past 30 years.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/09/great-prosperity-1947-1977-vs-great-regression-1981-present/
Affirmative action only hurts the white and NAM applicants who lose out, while doing something about the wage-productivity gap-- import tariffs, higher minimum wage, border fence/E-verify or auctioning off H1-B visas (instead of giving them away)-- would cut into the profits of the donors that keep Democrats, Republicans and NPR in business. Yeah, better for everyone to make it a racial issue in order to distract the rubes of both parties.
I don't get it. Grandma Bloomberg came over in steerage, so we have to wink at Pancho wading the river and Abdelkarim importing his father's sister's daughter to marry?
ReplyDeleteclass resentment much, Steve?
ReplyDelete9/17/11 5:34 PM
My God can't you do better than that? The next troll that gets the better of Steve will be the first.
Dan in DC
Grumpy Old Man said... I don't get it. Grandma Bloomberg came over in steerage, so we have to wink at Pancho wading the river and Abdelkarim importing his father's sister's daughter to marry?
ReplyDeleteJews seem to find this argument very persuasive: My ancestors came over here, so what right do I have to tell anyone else they can't come over here?
Lawrence Auster proposed a suitable response to this: "If we had known that letting your ancestors come over here would mean that we would never be allowed to have a sensible immigration policy, we wouldn't have let your ancestors come over here."
I don't get it. Grandma Bloomberg came over in steerage, so we have to wink at Pancho wading the river and Abdelkarim importing his father's sister's daughter to marry?
ReplyDeleteYou got it. Opa Schlomo escaped the Nazi Cossack Pogromchiks hither, so therefore that's this county's function.
"Affirmative action only hurts the white and NAM applicants who lose out"
ReplyDeleteSorry, obviously that should be white and, umm, non-NAM applicants who lose out.
:o)
class resentment much, Steve?
ReplyDeleteWere I a billionaire I'd still find them contemptibly laughable.
How many employees does it take to tend the grass at Deepdale?
ReplyDeleteAnd how much are the membership fees?
I asked, and I can't afford them.
Aren't there any American or Japanese robots that can do the work?
Goatweed
Lawrence Auster proposed a suitable response to this: "If we had known that letting your ancestors come over here would mean that we would never be allowed to have a sensible immigration policy, we wouldn't have let your ancestors come over here."
ReplyDeleteI actually have made this argument, to my non-Jewish, Scandinavian state legislator, an asswipe who ran as anti-illegal immigration only to reverse himself after election. He argued that he was obliged to let in new immigrants because, in effect, MY ancestors had let in HIS ancestors. I told him that I didn't think my ancestors thought they were obliging their descendants to eternal, unlimited mass immigration when they let his people in. The Cult of Emma Lazarus lives on...
He's really 'a piece of work', as they say.
ReplyDeleteAnd even more unfortunately, quite typical of the American elite.
@grumpy old man - "...and Abdelkarim importing his father's sister's daughter to marry?"
ReplyDeletefather's brother's daughter.
(^_^)
Bloomberg (armed bodyguards in tow) also recently launched a new anti-gun campaign. He was vehement that there were over 60 shootings over labor day weekend, the time of the west indian parade/ carnavil.
ReplyDeleteI remember a few year ago he floated the idea of a presidential run, and the papers (his personal friends, zuckerman at the daily news ect) ran soft stories about how Bloomberg was 'just the sort of outsider that could shake things up'.
G. Greenwald commented "yeah a pro israel, pro iraq war wall street billionaire, just the sort 'outsider' washington needs.
I'm a Jew, and unfortunately I have to agree with some of the posters here, that Bloomberg is the poster child of the tone-deaf,meager socially intelligent urban Jew. Not all Jews are like that, but unfortunately many are. It's frustrating to me that we Jews (by no means all, or even most, but a very large number) continue to suffer from this mindset, and for all of our allegedly high I.Q., seem to suffer from this propensity, that has brought trouble upon us, and will doubtless do so in the future.
ReplyDeleteBloomberg has always been an insufferable little, effete, twit.
Maybe its just me, but I feel like the defining characteristic of most high end places is that they have more pleasant whites doing the lower end labor like caddying or waitering.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad the Protestant commenters (from VDare?) get so much satisfaction about blaming everything on Catholics,
ReplyDeletethat was a joke, you missed it.
Must read:
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Sunday, September 18, 2011
71 Billion Euros - The Cost of Immigration
Robert in Arabia
I have a question for Steve. How many white protestants live in NYC?
ReplyDeleteMy suspicion is that the NYC even as early as 1950 was probably less than 20 percent white protestant.
Which is why NYC became a hell hole in the 60s/70s/80s and why its basically a left-wing Jewish run paradise today.
Once the Catholics become a majority, its downhill from there. You can't count on them to "hold the fort".
You're a funny guy. The only borough in NYC which is majority Catholic is Staten Island, which also happens to be the only borough which leans even somewhat to the right.
But don't let mere realty interfere with your brainless bigotry.
that was a joke, you missed it.
ReplyDeleteWhat was a joke?
@hbd chick--Right--it's parallel cousin marriage Muslims practice. Good catch.
ReplyDeleteA friend is the head greenskeeper at the exclusive "Jewish" club near Boston (as opposed to the WASP club, The Country Club in Brookline). He's got a gig that would be the envy of 99% of the country. Illegals need not even apply.
ReplyDelete"I'm glad the Protestant commenters (from VDare?) get so much satisfaction about blaming everything on Catholics,
ReplyDeletethat was a joke, you missed it."
Yeah, it should be pretty obvious that a Swiss soldier did not infact knock anyone down and steal their Russian watch.
"The only borough in NYC which is majority Catholic is Staten Island, which also happens to be the only borough which leans even somewhat to the right."
ReplyDeleteAh, I wouldn't even say "somewhat". Staten Island (the most Italian county in the US) has sent a GOPer to Congress 9 out of the last 10 times and has voted for the Republican presidential candidate 10 out of the last 13 times. For the northeast this is really something. Barry O lost Staten Island by 4%, John Kerry by almost 14%.
A friend is the head greenskeeper at the exclusive "Jewish" club near Boston (as opposed to the WASP club, The Country Club in Brookline). He's got a gig that would be the envy of 99% of the country.
ReplyDeleteI suspect that the friend is Jewish. Am I right?
Staten Island (the most Italian county in the US) has sent a GOPer to Congress 9 out of the last 10 times
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what the relevance of that Italian population is, but the Congressional district of which Staten Island is a part tends to send moderate-to-liberal Republicans to DC, which means it "leans somewhat to the right".
@ hbd chick,
ReplyDeleteThanks. That father's brother's daughter thing was very informative.
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteclass resentment much, Steve?"
To the anonymous whose every post consists of:
"fill-in-the-blank much, Steve?"
This must be what passes for a clever comment among stupid people.
You are a stupid, very un-clever dickhead.
Give me your tired, your poor,
ReplyDeleteYour huddled masses yearning to breed for free.
I have to go with Bloomberg here. It really is annoying to see other golfers around. I know that on summer evenings when I sneak on the awesomely private refuge bordering my house, it ruins things for me if I have to see anyone, even from 800 yards away.
ReplyDeleteThe Country Club in Brookline may have begun as "WASP," but even 30 years ago when I was a summer nanny for a high-income White family with a membership there, there were Jewish and some non-White members. Whatever happened to freedom of association? Stop stereotyping Whites who want to associate with other Whites!
ReplyDeleteRe Jews and New York parochialism, I've made this same point elsewhere. They live in an echo chamber and truly think they're masters of the universe. I derive intense schadenfreude imagining their feelings when TSHTF.
The anonymous Catholic baiting poster is probably the troll Tom Watson/Earl Pitts. He's been trolling HBD related blogs for years. He's best ignored.
ReplyDeleteSteve, you might be interested that at the Olympic Club in San Francisco, they've hired a few young Irish immigrants for the greens crew, as they tone up for the 2012 U.S. Open. I spoke with one of them on the bus - heaviest brogue I've ever encountered. No doubt most are Mex, though.
ReplyDeleteNext mayor of New York? Janette Sadik-Kahn. The present darling of the spandex set. Why not? All the beautiful people l-o-o-o-v-e her. And what the beautiful people want...
ReplyDeleteI guess these days a movie like Caddyshack just wouldn't get made. Moviegoers wouldn't be able to relate to it as a comedy.
ReplyDeleteWonderful research, lovely juxtaposition, as usual, Steve. Linked to and riffed on by Ex-Army HERE.
ReplyDelete"Bloomberg's a tone-deaf idiot. He epitomizes the low "social IQ" that non-Jews the world over ascribe to and which they detest."
ReplyDeleteIn Bloomberg's case, it's more of an elite provincialism than low social IQ, as pretty much everyone in Bloomberg's social circle -- not just Jews, but WASPs, Irish, Italians, etc. -- shares his views on immigration.
Nice post Steve. I never, ever see this point made in the MSM.
ReplyDeleteMeat packing used to be a fairly high paied, respectable union job. Between the Republicans love of RightToWork and the Dem's love of illegal immigrants, an entire way of life was robbed from US workers. Multiply this by a number of lowskilled occupations, and you get the situation we are in now.
On the plus side, the NY Times is going broke and the MSM class is dying harder than anyone else. I do love that.
Thras, there's something to be said for the idea that Catholics were the second "minority" (Ashkenazis being the first).
ReplyDeleteThey like illegal immigration more than legal because the illegals are easier to exploit and abuse.
ReplyDeleteMy suspicion is that the NYC even as early as 1950 was probably less than 20 percent white protestant.
ReplyDeleteProbably minority white Protestant since at least 1900. I wouldn't be surprised if you said it was down to 20% white Protestant by 1930--but the decline could have come at a later point. But the three largest factions were Italian, Irish, and Jewish a long, long time ago.
My suspicion is that the NYC even as early as 1950 was probably less than 20 percent white protestant.
ReplyDeleteIt's a minority white city, which is of greater significance than its Protestant population. 35% non-Hispanic white. And a large chunk of that 35% are Jewish.
NYC would probably vote in a landslide for Hugo Chavez if he was on the ballot.
Anon, 10:31: Nope, he's Italian. He calls it the Madoff CC for the havoc Bernie wreaked there.
ReplyDeleteSheila, The Country Club wants to host US Opens and such when the members deign to notice them, and let's face it, it's in Boston. Of course they have to take some tokens.
Once the Catholics become a majority, its downhill from there. You can't count on them to "hold the fort".
ReplyDeleteWell obviously the Protestants did a crappy job "holding the fort" in the first place. So what is your point?
Basically, in every large urbanized literate society the world has ever known, elites watch out for elites.
actually there were huge german, scandinavian and gulp even wasp neigborhoods in Brooklyn and the outer boroughs until the white flight of the mid sixties. Queens held on a little longer,
ReplyDeletebut the important thing was the collapse of the wasp ELITE. all cultural institutions and power positions are now jewish controlled - yeah moses was as early as the 30s but now jews have complete hegemony, there's a lingering wasp here and there, but jews control all the museums, schools (even the 'episcopal' ones), ect..
Thrasymachus, one thing that the Catholic church hierarchy agrees on is the necessity for totally open borders. All along the southern border there are priests, bishops, monsigneurs, who constantly demand more of everything for illegal aliens. Should illegals be allowed to get state driving licenses? The Catholic church demands it. Fraud issues with what basically are fake ID's? Not the Catholic church's problem. Identity theft issues? Not the Catholic church's problem. Encouragement of more illegal aliens to come? Hey, as long as they show up for Mass, definitely not a problem.
ReplyDeleteThe Catholic church demands that illegal aliens receive the same privileges as citizens, and no, the Catholic church has no problem with vote fraud, either. All along the border, there are bishops demanding less border security, more privileges for illegals, and all of it boils down to this: a demand essentially that the border be erased.
That's how it is on the border. You don't like it, tough. Your church is preaching the dissolution of the United States.
New York City may be minority white, but the parts of it that white people care about (Manhattan below 96th Street, the fancy parts of Brooklyn) are overwhelmingly white.
ReplyDeleteThere is aslo something of a WASP resurgence in New York City, as WASPs from elsewhere are attracted by the new tech scene. But those WASPs are more likely to hobnob with Asians, Jews, and higher end Irish Catholics than form exclusively WASP communities.
There is aslo something of a WASP resurgence in New York City, as WASPs from elsewhere are attracted by the new tech scene. But those WASPs are more likely to hobnob with Asians, Jews, and higher end Irish Catholics than form exclusively WASP communities.
ReplyDeletetrue.. even the churches are getting mixed.. many Episcopal churches are becoming afrocaribbean and Presbyterian ones , korean - both were traditionally ethnically anglo-saxon, and scot-irish/scottish, respectively.
"Thrasymachus, one thing that the Catholic church hierarchy agrees on is the necessity for totally open borders."
ReplyDeleteAll the Protestant churches agree too, including the Southern Baptists.
When you look at a media representation of the crane-filled skyline of Beijing or some other Chinese city, looking at the antiquity of the typical New York skyline, featuring the Empire State Building, just makes me shake my head. What to do. How to cope with the ever-accelerating decline.
ReplyDelete"When you look at a media representation of the crane-filled skyline of Beijing or some other Chinese city, looking at the antiquity of the typical New York skyline, featuring the Empire State Building, just makes me shake my head. What to do. How to cope with the ever-accelerating decline."
ReplyDeleteThe Empire State Building isn't the problem with New York; neither is the problem that there aren't new buildings being built there -- there are. The problem is that it takes us 10 times as long to make forgettable buildings today. The Empire State Building and the Chrysler building are timeless, and were both built during the Great Depression. We have little to show for this depression so far but unemployment checks.
That said, let's put China's development in perspective: it looks impressive mainly because they have been running the mercantilism playbook for 30 years and we, Western Europe (and, to a lesser extent, Japan) have let them. When we start pushing back, China's economic bust will start.