I only now noticed this dichotomy:
Zoning laws regarding new construction are fanatically enforced where rich white liberals live (witness the struggles of George Lucas in Marin Country and The Edge in Malibu to build on their own land). But zoning laws regarding existing construction are much less enforced in adjacent areas where poor illegal immigrants live.
On paper, it's illegal to have six men sleeping in bunks in your garage in southeast Hollywood, but rich white liberals in Hancock Park want cheap servants, so the laws aren't enforced. But, just try to build in Hancock Park ...
Zoning laws regarding new construction are fanatically enforced where rich white liberals live (witness the struggles of George Lucas in Marin Country and The Edge in Malibu to build on their own land). But zoning laws regarding existing construction are much less enforced in adjacent areas where poor illegal immigrants live.
On paper, it's illegal to have six men sleeping in bunks in your garage in southeast Hollywood, but rich white liberals in Hancock Park want cheap servants, so the laws aren't enforced. But, just try to build in Hancock Park ...
mathematical precision of "southeast Hollywood" will produce what kind of reaction? Just a frame for Hancock Park, maybe something more juicy?
ReplyDeleteWell, back in the 1980's Santa Ana tried to set a limit on the amount of people living in either an apartment or tract house what happen the ACLU stated you couldn't do that so the courts went with the ACLU. I find out about a section of Marin County where the maids lived I can't remember its name but the White Population in Marin has kept minorities fairly low almost as much as Malibu or Newport Beach-granted Newport Beach is next to Costa Mesa where the illegal immigrants live that are the maids and so forth.
ReplyDeleteMarin City is the housing project complex where the blacks of Marin live. The canal district of San Rafael is the warren of packed stucco apartment buildings where the Mexican and Salvadoran maids and gardeners live.
ReplyDeleteExactly the same thing happening in England.
ReplyDeleteThe last,disasterous New Labour maladministartion were actually dumb enough to sneak in a de facto open borders regime (they loved to prove their hip credentials to the WSJ and 'The Economist'). The predictable result was a flood of poor immigrants to London with no accomodation to huse them. Hence the recent phenomenom of 'hidden shantty towns' with shed-loads of immigrants stashed away in garages, garden sheds, attics, 20 to a house etc etc. the return of Dickensian London.
The irony is that the Labour Party was founded in the early 2oth century by *real* socialists party to ensure that slum housing would never be suffered to exist again.
Arlington VA is really comically strict about this sort of thing. There are 28 permits per year (not one more!) for adding what they call "accessory dwellings." Even if grandma wants a live-in nurse, the rules are still very strict, for instance grandma has to have lived in Arlington for at least a year to get the permit. Of course Arlington has also declared itself a sanctuary county, but with housing prices what they are, that's a typically empty gesture.
ReplyDeleteNAMs don't go to hearings or protest. Needs to gentrify first...unless they have a community organizer. Then it will gentrify for sure.
ReplyDeleteGot our point, LA and parts of orange-particularly Santa Ana reminded the New York Times of New York City circa 1920 where you housed as many people as you like in a housing unit. New York Times also mention the little pushed cart business that are like New York City in the early 20th century as well. In fact, some have argued that Mimi street in Santa Ana which has more folks living 15 to 20 per household might really be the most denseness urban area in the US along with Maywood or Huntington Park in LA. Santa Ana once was 4.8 per persons per household and La and New York were both below the 4 persons per household.
ReplyDeleteIts similar to the Occupy leftist that admires immigrants as well. Granted, their protest in Tampa didn't have too many La Raza and Mecha this time since it seems the brown people that protested with Occupy in May day didn't have the money or were too lazy to go to Tampa.
ReplyDeleteback in the 1980's Santa Ana tried to set a limit on the amount of people living in either an apartment or tract house what happen the ACLU stated you couldn't do that so the courts went with the ACLU.
ReplyDeleteIt often seems that the courts exist for no other reason than to make sure that rich white liberals get their own way regardless of what everyone else in the country thinks.
Here's how it works in the Maryland suburbs of DC:
ReplyDeleteSTEP ONE: Legal immigrant buys house in modest neighborhood.
STEP TWO: Legal immigrant rents every nook and cranny to illegal aliens.
STEP THREE: Neighbors complain to local government.
STEP FOUR: Owner tells housing code inspector that everyone in the house is related. Lack of documentation makes this easy to do.
STEP FIVE: Housing code inspector gives up, because it's too hard to unscramble the lies and his boss doesn't want him to, anyway.
STEP SIX: Illegal aliens physically threaten neighbors who turned them in, kill their pets, etc.,
STEP SEVEN: Neighborhood is discouraged/scared into accepting the presence of "clown houses."
I wonder if this is an outgrowth of an uber-rich desire to separate themselves from lower to middle class whites. If you're uber-rich and you've got older kids, you don't want them marrying the help. If the help is a 5'4" pot-bellied, Spanish speaking Sinolan gardener it's much less likely to happen.
ReplyDeleteLugash makes a very interesting point.
ReplyDeleteIf we look at countries with essentially no low paid minorities to hire as household servants - I am thinking Japan and Iceland - presumably the rich hire co ethnics as servants.
How common is it for the children of the rich to marry these servants?
"I only now noticed this dichotomy"
ReplyDeletei'm not sure if you were being sarcastic, but i've been pointing this out for 10 years at least. in CA, and to a degree the other states in the southwest, the law is not enforced on mexicans. they're free to ignore most rules and regulations.
with respect to building and construction codes, i've posted several times before about what steve mentions here. i would also assume that the training, certification, and licensing standards required for professionals in various construction jobs as well as mechanics, is also not very closely monitored or checked for when the guys doing the work aren't white or black.
this is sometimes extended to other non-europeans, sometimes not. depends on the law, rule, regulation, code, or statue. one thing i noticed is that the health department in some jurisdictions suspends some of their own inspection policies depending on who they're inspecting.
they're definitely lenient on mexican, chinese, and korean owned and operated restaurants. of course i'm not saying these places are given carte blanche but there's no way on earth they're all inspected to the same degree and scrutiny.
it's a slow motion slide towards third world status. one big cluster F.
In the case of Santa Ana it wasn't. Whites were already down to 23 percent in 1990 and currently 9.2 there are even more Asians in Santa Ana a little over 10 percent and Hispanic around 80 percent.
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ReplyDeleteYa forgot the parts about 6 satellite dishes on the roof and all the cars and work vans parked on the lawn.
But otherwise,yes, this is exactly how it works around here.
"I wonder if this is an outgrowth of an uber-rich desire to separate themselves from lower to middle class whites."
ReplyDeleteIf they maximize the variance between themselves and the lower castes it maximizes the chance of their children, grandchildren etc remaining as the elite. Exclusive schooling was the traditional way of achieving this but it wasn't 100% (and not being 100% is what prevented stagnation).
What's happening now is a genetic level version of that - giving their descendents a permanent advantage by making their future competitors biologically stupider.
If we look at countries with essentially no low paid minorities to hire as household servants - I am thinking Japan and Iceland - presumably the rich hire co ethnics as servants.
ReplyDeleteHow common is it for the children of the rich to marry these servants?
Thinking about it some more, the chances of marriage are probably very small. More likely scenarios:
1) A man of the house knocking up the help. I'd call it the Schwarzenegger Scenario, but that goes against the point.
2) The husband leaving the wife for, say, the nanny.
3) Gossip. In the age of Facebook and Twitter, having people who see your intimate affairs not be that computer literate, or sequestered to Spanish speaking media, is probably a plus.