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| Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL) |
Here at iSteve, we strive to keep you up to date on la raza's latest and whitest representatives to surface in the media as immigration experts. Today's surfacee is former nephew-in-law of Fidel Castro and current Republican Congressman from that high tech hub of Hialeah, FL, Mario Diaz-Balart. From the NYT:
House Votes to Ease Visa Limits for Some Foreign Workers
WASHINGTON — A divided House of Representatives voted Friday to ease visa restrictions for a limited pool of foreign workers, previewing a fight over how far Congress should go in changing the country’s immigration laws.
The bill the House approved by a vote of 245 to 139 — with just 27 Democrats supporting it — stands little chance of advancing in the Senate, where Democrats have control. And the White House has come out in opposition to the bill, calling it too “narrowly tailored” and incompatible with President Obama’s vision for a more comprehensive approach.
Looming over the House vote was a stark political reality: Republicans received just a sliver of the Hispanic vote in the elections last month, and the party is divided over how best to improve its standing with such a large and growing demographic.
Some Republicans are eager to move forward with legislation that would tighten border controls but also start paving a path to citizenship for some of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants now in the United States, a move that could help reverse impressions among Hispanics that the party is hostile to immigrants. But many are also wary of the furor that could arise among conservative voters over any perceived softness on those who are here illegally.
Some leading Republicans have become more vocal about their desire to see immigration legislation pass, albeit in a nuanced fashion. ...
The House bill, which would provide for 55,000 visas for foreign graduates of American universities who have doctoral and master’s degrees in science, technology, engineering or mathematics, was an attempt to reconcile the concerns within the party. And some Republicans acknowledged its shortcomings.
“It is not the panacea,” said Representative Mario Diaz-Balart, who represents a stretch of South Florida west of Miami. “It does not solve all the problems. But it takes a huge step.” ...
But some Democrats said Friday that the bill set immigrant groups against one another by deepening demographic divides.
“That is not America,” said Representative Luis V. Gutierrez of Chicago. “There was no special line for Ph.D.’s and master’s degree holders at Ellis Island.”
The Congressional Hispanic Caucus rebuffed recent Republican immigration legislation as partisan. Instead, the caucus laid the groundwork for their own principles on immigration reform as a means for dialogue during a press conference with reporters Wednesday.
The meeting took place days after Republicans in the Senate and House publicized legislation for a DREAM Act version and STEM Visa that would boost high-skilled labor. Already both bills have undergone scrutiny indicating that it would result in a seemingly partisan divide.
Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), who has been at the forefront of the immigration debate, explained to VOXXI that the bills being proposed from Republicans are not bipartisan in nature and therefore he rejects it.
“I don’t like to negotiate in parts,” said Menendez, while relaying his response to piecemeal legislation. “I want to know everything that my colleagues want. And after that start to negotiate.”
On the Senate side, Menendez said conversations on immigration reform have started individually with members, but not in a collective group.
That echoed the assertion he relayed to reporters at the U.S. Capitol on the Achieve Act. The Achieve Act, sponsored by Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) and Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-Texas), follows similar principles as Sen. Marco Rubio, but offers not pathway to citizenship. The Senator went on to note that the problem with the “Achieve Act is that it doesn’t achieve the dream.”
Menendez reiterated that a pathway to citizenship is non-negotiable. Although he did agree that the Republican efforts are a good starting point from the party’s beliefs in the past. He’s cautiously optimistic.
What, you say that both these gentlemen aren't Mexican, they are Cuban, and Cubans have their own special immigration package, that they aren't even racialist opportunists, they're just individual opportunists propelled forward by the ignorance and madness of the times?
How racist of you.
Republicans should move to lift the Cuban trade sanctions. I'm tired of these chicos.
ReplyDeleteWhite people with brown eyes switchin' sides
ReplyDeleteI am now so distrustful of whites with brown eyes because of all this, and the sad thing is...the distrust is usually pretty dead on.
My prediction both sides will not agree on the immirgation,Si.
ReplyDeleteSome Republicans have supported lifting them but the Cubans complain.
ReplyDelete"Republicans should move to lift the Cuban trade sanctions. I'm tired of these chicos."
ReplyDeleteGood idea, but they also would need to be repatriated by to Cuba...after all, they always said they long to return.
@Steve Sailer
ReplyDelete"Today's surfacee is former nephew-in-law of Fidel Castro and current Republican Congressman from that high tech hub of Hialeah, FL, Mario Diaz-Balart. From the NYT:"
Make fun all you want, but high tech or not, Cuban-Americans are, on average, wealthier and better educated than Anglo Americans. According to statistics from Stanford University, 45% of Cuban-Americans make more than 100 K a year compared to only 18% for Anglos.
And so what they are white? "Latino" is a CULTURAL and not racial category. And Cuban-Americans are mostly of Spaniard descent and Spaniards, like Sicilans, were regarded as a biologically lesser kind of white historically by América. The 1924 and 1952 Immigration Acts both limited the amount of immgrants from suthern Europe on the grounds they were biologically less desirable than northern Europeans.
There is nothing wrong with Cuban-Americans identifying as Latinos and benefiting from that. WASPS, they are not, and a Cuban-American would never be able to become U.S presidente up to the 1960s.
"but offers not pathway to citizenship"
ReplyDeleteBad translation from Spanish - ?
Menendez reiterated that a pathway to citizenship is non-negotiable.
ReplyDeleteIt's good to know that if I break the law, the Democrats will fight tirelessly to make sure I can get off scot-free. This kind of excuse-making will be done for whites too, right?
Bob Menendez is pissed that he has to fly to the Dominican Republic to find cheap brown hookers to rip off. He'd prefer to order them from his room in the Newark Best Western on Route 1.
ReplyDelete"The bill the House approved by a vote of 245 to 139 — with just 27 Democrats supporting it — stands little chance of advancing in the Senate, where Democrats have control." - Thank god for gridlock.
ReplyDeleteSo, this bill had one great provision -- ending the diversity visa lottery -- and one terrible provision -- more cheap labor for the tech sector. Most restrictionists, from both parties, voted in favor, presumably because they thought that the good outweighed the bad. It's a tough call; a lot of principled people voted yes: Ron Paul; Michele Bachmann (loopy on other matters, yes, but great on immigration); Steve King; a number of restrictionist Democrats such as Senator-elect Donnelly and outgoing protectionist champion Kissell; et al. This sort of thing is what makes politics so morally murky.
ReplyDeleteAmong the five Republicans who voted no were Walter Jones and Lou Barletta, for reasons of restrictionist purism I suppose; good for them, too. (I am not familiar enough with the other three to gauge their motivations.)
Menendez wants to be able to import his favorite prostitutes.
ReplyDeleteNobody likes or wants nerdy White guys around Steve. Which is why the Republicans picked H1-B visas. Getting into IT is insane, the way semi-slave H1-Bs and outsourcing reduces wages, along with ethnic nepotism in hiring (get one Indian or Chinese PM and your whole team will in short order be ... Indian or Chinese, generally from the same village and all distantly related at worst).
ReplyDeleteBut this happens because most people just HATE HATE HATE (and White women especially) nerdy neck-beard White guys. All they represent -- massive social, economic, political, and cultural CHANGE.
Cubans love racial diversity, and can't get enough of it. Something to do with warm climates, I guess. You just have to keep the right people on top.
ReplyDeleteIt's been a while since I've bothered to look them up, but I remember being struck by how poor the "anticommunist" Cuban reps in Florida were graded by Gun Owners of America.
They ran from Fidel, but brought Fulgencio with them.
I'm starting to really, really not like Cubans.
ReplyDeleteCuban politicians and the Miami Mafia (Batista regime parasites) give the rest of Cubans -- a vast majority -- a bad name. If you knew some non-elite Cubans from outside of Dade County (and outside of the Castro regime, of course) you'd probably change your mind about Cubans.
DeleteThe only honest Cuban politician I know of was Huber Matos, so it is particularly unfortunate that he was an idiot.
Risto
Most Cubans I know agree with 3:02 AM -- the embargo is counterproductive and should have ended decades ago -- and I know a lot of Cubans.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it is silly to give affirmative action to white people, whether officially to white Hispanics or un officially to scotch Irish applying to HYP (see Ron Unz's column on "American meritocracy").
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@anonymous 12/1/12 11:11 AM
ReplyDelete> millions of us "white, non-Hispanic" Americans who have a dollop or two of Indian blood
Representing.
> If 20 or 30 million white Americans got their DNA tested and started claiming affirmative action benefits as Native Americans
I suggested this here some time back actually, but it wasn't warmly received - something about the black female diversity officer laughing your white ass out of the office. Plus for Indians, the threshold is more than just 'one drop'. I suppose it might have some /moral/ weight, though, and I certainly /like/ the idea - if you can't beat 'em, find a way to join 'em.
@Whiskey:
ReplyDelete> Nobody likes or wants nerdy White guys around
Aw, Whiskey; /I/ like you! Come sit next to me!
"I suggested this here some time back actually, but it wasn't warmly received - something about the black female diversity officer laughing your white ass out of the office."
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It got Elizabeth Warren into Hahvad and she didn't even have a DNA test--she just claimed Cherokee ancestry by "family lore."
LOTS of Americans can claim Indian ancestry, particularly the "rednecks" of the Southeast (Elvis, Wayne Newton, the country singer Loretta Lynn are just three examples) who inter-married extensively with the Cherokee and Choctaw. Imagine what would happen if thousands of Southern "rednecks" started demanding entrance to Hahvad based on their proven Cherokee or Choctaw DNA.
The liberal elites would crap their panties with rage.
GOP deal for Cubans should be this:
ReplyDelete1) Cubans back immigration restriction.
2) In return, US replaces embargo on Cuba with 10% tariff, and uses the proceeds of that to compensate Cuban-Americans (and their heirs) whose property was expropriated by Castro.
Interesting idea. It might work. We'd need a well known person to publicize it, perhaps Lou Dobbs, Unz or Pat Buchanan.
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But this happens because most people just HATE HATE HATE (and White women especially) nerdy neck-beard White guys. All they represent -- massive social, economic, political, and cultural CHANGE.
ReplyDeleteI have some friends and family to whom I've recommended this blog. Just when I tell them that they should read the comments to see an adult discussion of HBD issues, this guy comes along and makes it look like a bunch of junior high school kids run the place.
Is this guy a plant to derail discussion topics?
Comprehensive reform. Classic Washington, especially Democrat, especially Obama, with journalists nodding approval. And Menendez doesn't like to negotiate in parts. This is how corrupt horse-traders make their pork-barrel deals sound more moral and wise than your simpleminded "fairness," or "justice."
ReplyDelete"Some Republicans are eager to move forward with legislation that would tighten border controls but also start paving a path to citizenship..."
ReplyDeleteEverytime we're told we need "a path to citizenship" we need to tell them we did that: over a century ago. Everytime we're told we need to "bring people out of the shadows" we need to tell them we did that...26 years ago.
"But some Democrats said Friday that the bill set immigrant groups against one another by deepening demographic divides."
In other words, they're afraid that Asians and Hispanics might begin fighting with each other, and lose sight of the fact that they're supposed to both be attacking whites.
"restrictionist Democrats such as Senator-elect Donnelly"
ReplyDeleteHahahahaha chump. funny how the guys always talking up the mythical blue dogs are the first to hate on whiskey and the neo-cons.
Republicans should move to lift the Cuban trade sanctions
ReplyDeleteHell, I'm just grateful they're not talking about statehood for Cuba.
Oops, I shouldn't have said that - it will just give them ideas ..
It isn't Whiskey who turns this place into a junior-high its the dime store Nietzcheans cheap cynics who do that. It is like John Fowles say sarcasm is the refuge of the week. That is why Pat Buchanan makes it in the world while most alt right commentators don't. Pat isn't snide and sarcastic he is vigorous and direct. Sarcasm and vigor are mutually exclusive. It's like the earlier poster said about "shut up loser" it isn't your ideas, or that fact that you can't insulate yourself from the effects of immigration that make people think the alt right are losers it is your attitude. Say what you want about the Christian right, but with focus and earnestness they got alot further into the Republican power structure than you guys did. But what is many of yours response to the Christian right sheer disdain and sneering contempt.
ReplyDeleteThis is where the Jewish-focus of the alt right really hurts it. You guys are not going to be able to ridicule and mock your way into power like the post-war Jews did.That only works when you are confronting an Apollonian power structure. The Dionysian hegemony of the left will have to fall the way decadent pagan Rome fell. By being confronted by something earnest and vigorous. Lucretius didn't make much progress did he?
ReplyDeleteMake fun all you want, but high tech or not, Cuban-Americans are, on average, wealthier and better educated than Anglo Americans. According to statistics from Stanford University, 45% of Cuban-Americans make more than 100 K a year compared to only 18% for Anglos.
2010 data from Pew Hispanic Center says the average Cuban household income in the U.S. is the same as that of the average Hispanic household.
Ok Steve, I'm glad you dropped my earlier comment, it brought the tone of the place down - but, you have to admit you can smell the self-pity in Whiskey's post. I'll try again: East Asian women like white guys fine, at least Fresh Off Boat ones. Whiskey, come out to Silicon Valley, you'll do all right.
ReplyDelete(Actually steve you can get rid of all the 'agonistes' posts... bleh. sorry all)
ReplyDeleteWhat does Lucretius have to do with Whiskey. An Epircurean poen on the nature of things. Whiskey was discussing Hannibal and Scipo Afrancanius.
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ReplyDelete"2010 data from Pew Hispanic Center says the average Cuban household income in the U.S. is the same as that of the average Hispanic household~
Nope. They are SIGNIFICANTLY wealthier and better educated than White Anglos. A Cuban-American, for instance, was CEO of Coca-Cola, the most quintessential of all American corporations. Cuban-Americans own most of the best real estate in Miami, and they are one of the most afluent communities in Florida despite being relatively few in numbers.
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ReplyDeleteIt isn't Whiskey who turns this place into a junior-high its the dime store Nietzcheans cheap cynics who do that. It is like John Fowles say sarcasm is the refuge of the week. That is why Pat Buchanan makes it in the world while most alt right commentators don't. Pat isn't snide and sarcastic he is vigorous and direct. Sarcasm and vigor are mutually exclusive.
That's a fair criticism. But at this point a lot of us may believe that sarcasm and cynicism are the only places left to retreat. I greatly admire Pat Buchanan, but I don't think his vigor (or intellectual rigor) penetrates the skulls of many Jersey Shore*-watchers. It goes without saying that his directness is reflexively written off by the mainstream as racism, xenophobia, homophobia, etc. I even know an evangelical Christian who called Pat Buchanan a racist when I mentioned his name.
*Speaking of Jersey Shore, MTV has created its replacement via dredging the bottom of Appalachia.
Anonydroid at 12:49 AM asked: Is this guy a plant to derail discussion topics?
ReplyDeleteHunsdon replied: Right in one! Ask him about the Harvard WASP mafia that runs things, and if Sheldon Adelson really doesn't care about Israel at all, not a bit.
Anonydroid at 2:16 PM said: It is like John Fowles say sarcasm is the refuge of the week.
ReplyDeleteHunsdon replied: Good sir, it's the refuge of the month!
And as a matter of fact, I only regard the Christian right with sneering derision and contempt to the extent that they are Christian Zionists.
And this is not "self-pity" but a telling observation: The West simply cracked up under too much technological change that destroyed social cohesion.
ReplyDeleteLook at what happened from 1950 to 1986:
*People moved to the suburbs leaving old city centers via cheap autos.
*Nearly everyone owned a car, making the elites less special and distinguished.
*Many owned or rented decent housing, also making elites less special and distinguished.
*TV replaced the old social networks and power structures that dominated people's lives and told them how to think and act.
*TV in turn started to be replaced by cable fragmentation in the 1980s.
*Computers moved from massive, uber-specialized machines requiring basically a priesthood to something the average person could buy and tinker with.
*Travel on airplanes went from uber-expensive slow prop planes to cheap commodity jet travel that nearly anyone could afford.
*Music went from something enjoyed only in the home to something anyone could listen to privately anywhere.
And it just never ... stopped. TV went from a novelty only a few had to dominant, then color, then stereo, then Hi-Definition. From something that had to be watched live, to recordable in any number of formats.
Mitt Romney wanted to staple a green card to every STEM foreign national in the US. Why? Because US White guys in science and math really are the enemy, as they bring massive social change. Some of it is trivial, or in isolation not much, but cumulatively it is massive.
The US in a mere thirty six years went from a nation that lived mostly in cities, or farms, to one that lived mostly in suburbs. That had no car to owning maybe two per family. To going to movies often to going rarely. From being oriented towards hanging out downtown to watching TV in the living room. From doing math on paper and pencil to using spreadsheets. From music defined from big band and swing to nearly every genre you could think of. From music being rare to commonplace.
And from status being obvious and unchallenged, to being always amorphous, chaotic, and vulnerable.
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart looks like Steve. Steve, you are a Latino!
ReplyDeleteWell, Pat Buchnana only became outraged when he visit his sister in California in the early 1990's. He realized that the great Republican counties of Orange and San Diego were forced to become more hispanic because of bad immirgation policy and to a lesser extent more asian because of Kennedy's 1965 act.
ReplyDeleteNope. They are SIGNIFICANTLY wealthier and better educated than White Anglos.
ReplyDeleteCool! That would be awesome! But before we rush to any conclusions, let's see some third-party data. What about that Stanford study? Do you have a reference for it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-overseeing-mysterious-construction-project-in-israel/2012/11/28/e5682d8e-38b6-11e2-a263-f0ebffed2f15_story_1.html
ReplyDeletehttp://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-building-secret-site-911-in-israel-2012-11#ixzz2DkVPxTGn
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=bbb71b8800395ce63f23887b49251547&tab=core&_cview=1
"There was no special line at Ellis island for PHD holders"..
ReplyDeleteSo why does this mean that the USA shouldn't try to carefully pick the best educated and skillful immigrants it can?
The USA once had slavery. Should that be used as an argument for its re-introduction?
I think the problem with Whiskey is not merely the content of his comments - though that often leaves something to be desired - but the sheer mind-numbing repetition of the exact same words written over and over again. If he MUST say the same thing, can't he at least muster the wit to say it differently?
ReplyDeletePerhaps many years ago "White women hate-hate-HATE beta nerds" was a provocative and thought-provoking sentence. Now it's like reading "Kilroy was here!" or some less printable form of public-bathroom graffiti. It's just an affront to public decency.
Lucretius has nothing to do with Whisky. The comparison was between Christian gumption and earnestness and Lucretian cynciam and sneering.
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ReplyDelete"Cool! That would be awesome! But before we rush to any conclusions, let's see some third-party data. What about that Stanford study? Do you have a reference for it?~
Here is some data for you: they own half of Miami including the best real estate, they can make or break newspapers down there - the Miami Herald became pro-bilingual education due exclusively to pressure from the Cuban lobby. No President has dared to challenge them on the Cuban embargo and they have enough power to, despite their paultry numbers, make the U.S government do whatever they want regarding Cuba, despite the huge pressure from business interests to lift the embargo. They also produce a ton of Ivy League graduates, like George Borjas who writes for Vdare. Then, there is Roberto Gozueta, who was global presidente of Coca-Cola.
Your study is inaccurate and laughable. Anyone who has ever been to Miami knows how wealthy Cuban-Americans are. They for the most part have upper middle-class lifestyles and they are one of the most influential communities in Florida. They also tend to be professionals, such as doctors, lawyers and masnagers.
... because of Kennedy's 1965 act.
ReplyDeleteThis is pure BS. I am getting so tired of people calling the 1965 Immigration Act the Ted Kennedy Act.
The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 was written by Emanuel Celler who spent over 40 years trying to get immigration changed from the restrictions of the Immigration Act of 1924. Celler was a member of House of Representatives. He wrote the bill and introduced it into the House. Kennedy was a Senator who could not introduce legislation in the House.
Senator Philip Hart co-sponsored this legislation in the Senate.
And of course LBJ signed it into law.
Was Ted Kennedy a vocal supporter? You betcha. But to simply call it his act is insulting because it lets off the hook the true villains who crafted it, especially Celler. Celler spent his whole career in the House pushing for this and now no one even knows his name.
Of course the media does nothing to correct people on this. I guess they figure it is better to blame the drunken Irishman for our demographic change than the people who actually planned and executed it. I guess it might be safer for them if the Hoi Polloi start grabbing for the pitch forks.
Well, Pat Buchnana only became outraged when he visit his sister in California in the early 1990's. He realized that the great Republican counties of Orange and San Diego were forced to become more hispanic because of bad immigration policy and to a lesser extent more asian because of Kennedy's 1965 act.
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't Ted Kennedy's act; it was Emmanuel Celler's) or the Jewish community's).
Before 1965, immigration from South of the Border was unlimited; the 1965 Act actuallly placed limits on it (although you're right to the extent you're talking about Asians.).
Before 1965, immigration from South of the Border was unlimited; the 1965 Act actuallly placed limits on it (although you're right to the extent you're talking about Asians.).
ReplyDeleteBefore 1965, the notion that America was not a European, and primarily NW European, nation was not questioned. So Eisenhower could launch an Operation Wetback if the Southern border crossings got out of hand. After 1965, that changed and with it the will to maintain the historic American nation.
Before 1965, the notion that America was not a European, and primarily NW European, nation was not questioned.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't believe "anonymous", you could take Melvin James Kaminsky's (Mel Brooks's) and Buck Henry Zuckerman's word for it in 1965:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0587509/quotes
The Claw/Craw: Actually, the only girl we want is Princess Ingrid.
Maxwell Smart: Then why did you abduct the others?
The Claw/Craw: Unfortunately, Mr. Smart, all Americans look alike to us. We may be diabolical, but we are not perfect.
" "Latino" is a CULTURAL and not racial category."
ReplyDeleteNo, no! You must be confused. It is a citizen of Latinia. You know, the country next door to Latvia.
Whiskey said: Mitt Romney wanted to staple a green card to every STEM foreign national in the US. Why? Because US White guys in science and math really are the enemy, as they bring massive social change. Some of it is trivial, or in isolation not much, but cumulatively it is massive.
ReplyDeleteHunsdon observed: Mitt Romney was really like William F. Buckley, standing athwart history, yelling "Stop"?
So Romney's devious plan was to prevent social change by importing millions of Indian and Chinese IT workers.
That's a Pinky and the Brain level scheme there, Whiskey.
The first future Hispanic U.S president will definitely not look White.
ReplyDeleteBecause the first U.S Hispanic president will most likely be San Antonio mayor Julian Castro, who happens to be the Democrat's chosen one. The Democrats and the liberal media are building Julian Castro up as the Hispanic version of Barack Obama.
Julian Castro is as Brown as Speedy Gonzalez.
"There was no special line at Ellis island for PHD holders"
ReplyDeleteI've always thought it funny (and tragic) how so many politicians who call themselves "progressive" think the United States should adhere to an 1890s style immigration policy.
Its certainly true that Emanuel Celler and a certain tribe of people he is associated with (the "Scots-Irish" of course) were the true driving force in 1965 in undermining America. Nevertheless, Kennedy chose to be the frontman, to attach his name, status and prestige to the act. He could have said no. He could even have tried to oppose it. But he didn't. He was at least a willing accomplice in the destruction of the historic American nation.
ReplyDelete"they are one of the most afluent communities in Florida despite being relatively few in numbers"
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The biggest Sixties of all happened in China. I occasionally wonder if Mao tried LSD.
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