May 19, 2013

Really?

From the New York Times:
Obama Urges Black Graduates to Set ExamplePresident Obama delived the commencement speech at Morehouse College in Atlanta.By MARK LANDLER 7:46 PM ETThe president told Morehouse graduates that “laws, hearts and minds have been changed to the point where someone who looks like you can serve as president.”

Ya think?

80 comments:

  1. I saw "Django Unchained" the other night. I would bet that 90% of the black people who have seen that movie think its practically a documentary. Theres the problem in race relations: black people tend to project hostility towards white people. Its unpleasant so white people try to avoid all black people, not just the violent criminal element. I don't see how anything can change.

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  2. He originally ran with this as one of his main themes, and he keeps coming back to it. Does he actually mean to say that the most important part of his presidency is that he's black, and got elected?

    I know that was the whole point for some people; but for himself, and speaking for a black audience, I would expect more than "see what I've done for you? I got elected."

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  3. It's a VDare world and we're just living in it.

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  4. So it's still all about race? Got it.

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  5. The American people haven't been against the idea of a black President for 30 years -- we just didn't want a redistributionist, open-borders type street agitator as one.

    Luckily for you, "Whitey's Party" decided that while it couldn't support such a candidate directly, it would happily do so indirectly by stepping aside and handing the keys to the country over to a more Vibrant folk.

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  6. Hell, if I can be president, anybody can be president! Now get in there before the whole thing folds.

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  7. Obama was our first, and LAST, black president.

    As others would say: NEVER AGAIN.

    Or "Been there, done that".

    Cf: David Dinkins.

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  8. "Every one of you has a grandma or an uncle or a parent who's told you at some point in life as an African American you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by."

    Yeah, right. Unless they get a job in the civil service or government contracting. Then they have to work half as hard.

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  9. “We know that too many young men in our community continue to make bad choices,” Mr. Obama said. “And I have to say, growing up I made quite a few myself. Sometimes I wrote off my own failings as just another example of the world trying to keep a black man down.”

    "Our" community? Barack "My People" Obama.

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  10. I think protocol dictates that such messages be accompanied by the jubilant firing of machine guns into the air.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/i-president-dwayne-elizando-mountain.html

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  11. The quote that really made me bang my head against the wall was: "as an African American you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by." Yeah, because of all those decades Obama had to spend working hard and paying his dues before anyone would take him seriously as a presidential candidate.

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  12. Comrades! The revolution is officially over! I, Obama, won. I was preceded by the other legs of the triumvirate: Barry and Dinkins.

    Now get a job. Buena suerte. (chuckle, snicker, snort)

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  13. Harry Baldwin5/19/13, 10:00 PM

    A couple of points jumped out at me from the president's speech:



    Yes, that mono-racial community that is so inspiring when chosen by blacks, so appalling if preferred by whites.

    It was here that professors encouraged him to look past the world as it was and fight for the world as it should be. And it was here, at Morehouse, as Dr. King later wrote, where “I realized that nobody was afraid.”

    Must be great to go to a college where you don't have to be afraid, unlike Harvard.

    Policies that . . . protect more of our children from the horrors of gun violence. . . to advocate for an America where everybody has a fair shot in life.

    Awkward to mention everyone getting a shot in life after referring to gun violence in the black community.

    And I have to confess, sometimes I wrote off my own failings as just another example of the world trying to keep a black man down.

    Is he referring to the election he lost to Bobby Rush because the black community decided he wasn't black enough?

    I’m sure every one of you has a grandma, an uncle, or a parent who’s told you at some point in life that, as an African-American, you have to work twice as hard as anyone else if you want to get by.

    From my experience in the corporate world, I'd say if the Morehouse grads work about 70 percent as hard as anyone else their job is secure.

    I was raised by a heroic single mother and wonderful grandparents who made incredible sacrifices for me.

    How long was Stanley Anne Dunham single while she was raising him? Not long, really. Glad to see grandma's finally out from under the bus!

    See, as Morehouse Men, many of you know what it’s like to be an outsider; to be marginalized; to feel the sting of discrimination. That’s an experience that so many other Americans share. Hispanic Americans know that feeling when someone asks where they come from or tells them to go back

    It's especially stinging when it comes from an ICE agent.

    Muslim Americans feel it when they’re stared at with suspicion because of their faith.

    Right, we stare with suspicion at their faith and their backpacks.

    Any woman who knows the injustice of earning less pay for doing the same work — she knows what it’s like to be on the outside looking in.

    No matter how many times that claim gets debunked, Obama's going to keep repeating it. Hey, it works, and that's all that matters with this president. Whatever he can say at any given moment that's to his advantage, he'll say.

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  14. His true colors.

    He recently complained he "hasn't much time left".

    I always thought Obama would go much more radical at the end of his term and I also always suspected that he would release a book after he was done with the office where he essentially would accuse everyone who opposed him as a racist.

    But at the same time, it's sort of ironic. Obama's 2nd cabinet is more white than his first cabinet. And his first cabinet was more white than Clinton's most diverse cabinet was at its peak.

    Obama talks like a racial radical. But in effect his actions point the other way.

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  15. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326998/Yahoo-buys-Tumblr-1-1billion-Founder-David-Karp-tech-tycoon.html

    Another libillionaire.

    cons can't compete.

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  16. If Mexicans are the new Italians, then let's treat them as Italian immigrants were treated.

    Make them respect American heritage, pressure their young ones to favor rule of law over tribal organized crime, and expect them to be critical of the rot in their own communities.

    Italians didn't just become good Americans automatically. They were pressured to be good Americans.

    But Mexicans don't have to respect the rule of law. They get to strut around as 'victims'. And it's Americans who are pressured to bend over backwards for Mexicans.

    Btw, is it too much to ask Latin America to clean up its act so that its teeming masses all wanna come over here? Latin America is part of the New World too. Why is it so lousy? And if Latin America is so great, why don't all Jews emigrate over there?

    PS. Would Jews have gained as much power and wealth if most of them had settled in Latin America where rule of law was flimsy and corruption rife?

    No, Jewish success was built on the Anglo foundation.

    Jewish gratitude? After Romney lost the race, Bill Maher joked that he looked like someone who just found out his wife did it with a Negro, and Jews from coast to coast howled like hyenas.
    I think it's time for cons to realize Jews are not their friends.

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  17. Do you think we'll ever have a real black president? Not a well-spoken half-breed, but a real, hood-raised Brotha? Could he even be trusted to say the right things when his string is pulled?

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  18. Haiku:

    Now is the time for

    Soul Brothers and Soul Sisters

    To be leadin' sh*t

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  19. Astute observation. I wonder what his first clue was.

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  20. I just looked at the comments section to that article. Boy, the Times is really screening those comments.

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  21. The far better line is that "an African American has to work twice as hard.......". Funny this coming from a guy carried along by powerful patrons his entire life.

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  22. Dr Van Nostrand5/20/13, 5:47 AM

    The president told Morehouse graduates that “laws, hearts and minds have been changed to the point where someone who looks like you can serve as president.”

    Obama is little more white liberal in blackface. An authentic black centrist democrat like the new Philadephia mayor say would make such patronizing statements to a black audience

    One reason Obama thinks he is awesome and is so tone deaf is because his white half keeps telling his black half how wonderful he is.And how he must stick it to whitey.

    Obama,it has to be remembered,is more of an asparagus and aragula (I I didnt know what this was until it came up in the 2008 campaign)than collard green kinda guy

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  23. The president told Morehouse graduates that “laws, hearts and minds have been changed to the point where someone who looks like you can serve as president.”

    Maybe only about 1% of African American males can ever hope to be President, they're the small minority able to resist the irresistible temptation to rhyme when placed in front of a camera.

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  24. Obama is a one-off, just as Kennedy was a one-off. There will never be another Irish Catholic or any other kind of white ethnic president. They got their guy, they got to feel like they were part of the group. Obama has let black people feel like they have arrived, that they are now formally part of the power structure.

    But just as Kennedy represented the high water mark for white ethnics- their political influence was greatly diminished in just a few years after his death- Obama may represent the high water mark for blacks. The elite are stampeding over blacks to get Hispanic support tied up.

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  25. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10276738

    Sheeeeeeeeeet

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  26. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/05/in-facebook-we-trust-what-really-happened-behind-the-biggest-ipo-flop-of-our-time/275987/

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  27. I keep waiting for some commencement speaker to tell the graduates that they've been had. They've spent $40,000 a year on tuition only to gather a credential that they could have gotten by simply taking an IQ test.

    Traditional education is among the most obsolete institutions in our culture. Attending lectures for four years makes no sense in the age of Google and Amazon books. I say this as someone who gave those lectures at more than a half dozen colleges over the years.

    I recently have felt the need to understand Principle Component Analysis better. Thirty years ago I would have waited for a UC Berkeley Extension course to be given. If I didn't live in the Bay Area I would be SOL. State colleges and most private schools don't give such advanced subjects outside of regular matriculation. But today on the Web - and certainly in the future - almost every possible academic topic is covered. People who are actually bookish and scholarly increasingly look away from regular colleges and universities.

    Another alternative to a college degree is an industry certificate. Ten years ago when I refinanced my house the lenders were swayed by all the Microsoft and Novell certifications I had. They didn't give a fig about my Masters degree from a good grad school with lots of scholarships and fellowships. If I had stayed in school a little longer and gotten my doctorate it probably would have lowered my credit worthiness.

    Increasingly employers want smarter employees. Jobs for the dull witted are drying up fast. But by law employers can't give an IQ test. They therefore have to rely on the highly indirect measure of a college degree.

    In "Forbidden Planet" Warren Stevens says to Morpheus "I have an officially registered IQ of 182". So at least the script writer thinks in the future that everyone's IQ will be measured and publicly posted somewhere. As to why a society would allow someone 4.5 SDs above the mean off the planet, I don't know. Flynn Effect?

    I took genetics as an undergrad. Almost everything I learned then is obsolete. I taught a dozen or more computer courses - all obsolete too. Knowledge has a shorter shelf life today. Employers in many technical fields know they will have to retrain new hires anyway. They want someone who can pick up the latest techniques quickly. Any cheap IQ test gives them a better idea of the job candidates suitability better than a college degree. And is much, much cheaper.

    All we need is a national aptitude test given on a person's 18th birthday. The Chinese started something like this in the Sui Dynasty. It's time we caught up.

    Albertosaurus

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  28. IMO, black men are a lot more cynical about Obama than black women. The latter support him fervently because of Michelle. Michelle is their queen, their idol.

    B&M are not old; they will have many years post-Presidency to grow to hate each other, if they do not already. What will happen to their legacy if and when (I think it is a when) they divorce? We can expect the public to be carefully prepped, with an announcement of the separation, etc.

    What will blacks think of their idol then?

    "Too soon to tell." Who said that?

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  29. The far better line is that "an African American has to work twice as hard.......". Funny this coming from a guy carried along by powerful patrons his entire life.

    Yeah. Let's stack up Mr. 6 whole years in the Illinois Senate and (most of) 1 term in the United States Senate against previous presidents' qualifications and see who had to work twice as hard as whom.

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  30. "I was raised by a heroic single mother and wonderful grandparents who made incredible sacrifices for me.

    How long was Stanley Anne Dunham single while she was raising him? Not long, really. Glad to see grandma's finally out from under the bus!"

    And how long was Stanley Ann Dunham a black girl at Spelman?

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  31. BTW the captcha box makes for worse posts. Formerly I used to always print out a preview and re-read what I had written for style and continuity.

    With the new system that policy makes you endure the captcha challenge twice. Now I just post.

    Albertosaurus

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  32. Dr Van Nostrand5/20/13, 8:23 AM


    IMO, black men are a lot more cynical about Obama than black women. The latter support him fervently because of Michelle. Michelle is their queen, their idol.

    B&M are not old; they will have many years post-Presidency to grow to hate each other, if they do not already. What will happen to their legacy if and when (I think it is a when) they divorce? We can expect the public to be carefully prepped, with an announcement of the separation, etc.

    What will blacks think of their idol then?

    "Too soon to tell." Who said that?"


    Good point.The relationship between Barack and Michele is a closed book as far as the media is concerned- they are AWESOME! Nothing more to see here!

    Maybe a woman's input would be valuable . What do the female isteve readers think?
    To my male eyes, there is a great deal of personal affection between them
    But their personalities may breed animosities.
    Michelle does have an independent streak.
    I remember reading stories about how she had to be persuaded to stay in DC as a traditional first lady rather than work in Chicago.
    Could be just a yougogirll type concern troll story. But I have never heard a similar one before about any other First lady

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  33. BO was not our first black president. Bill Clinton was. Toni Morrison told us so and the MSM roundly supported her at the time. Who are we to argue otherwise?

    On thne other hand, BO is our first affirmative action president: Someone far less qualified for the position than many millions of others but preferentially getting it because of his race and ability to work the system.

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  34. Harry Baldwin5/20/13, 9:33 AM

    This dropped off my previous message:

    Some of you probably came here from communities where everybody looked like you. Others may have come here in search of a community.

    Yes, in search of that mono-racial community that is so admirable when chosen by blacks, so despicable if preferred by whites.

    Also from the Morehouse speech:

    In today’s hyper-connected, hyper-competitive world, with millions of young people from China and India and Brazil, many of whom started with a whole lot less than all of you did, all of them entering the global workforce alongside you, nobody is going to give you anything you haven’t earned. Nobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination.

    Isn't Obama guilty of promoting Test Anxiety and Stereotype Threat? How are those African American graduates supposed to feel when he tells them they're in competition with Indian and Chinese graduates who don't care about their claims of discrimination and don't want to hear their excuses. I'm surprised that the audience didn't erupt in wails.

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  35. Italians didn't just become good Americans automatically. They were pressured to be good Americans

    I'm all in favor of 'pressuring' Mexicans, but where did you get this idea? My grandfather forbade Italian in the household. You think social workers made him do it?

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  36. Harry Baldwin5/20/13, 10:37 AM

    Dr Van Nostrand said... One reason Obama thinks he is awesome and is so tone deaf is because his white half keeps telling his black half how wonderful he is.

    Great stuff!

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  37. I'm sure it was a very inspiring speech. You just had to be there. Besides, he can give the same speech next year. Which should save money. On speechwriting anyway.

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  38. I think protocol dictates that such messages be accompanied by the jubilant firing of machine guns into the air.

    Or at least singing about them.

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  39. Bitter Clinger III5/20/13, 11:11 AM

    Thing I don't get is that real American blacks - i.e. descendants of southern slaves - must know that Obama isn't really one of them. He doesn't look like them, talk like them and he certainly didn't grow up like them. So why are they still so monolithically, resolutely behind him? As Obama himself knows, not being "black enough" can get your hood pass withdrawn very swiftly. By every single objective measure he clearly isn't "black enough", and I don't believe that all real American blacks don't know this on an intellectual level and feel it on a visceral one.

    I get why blacks will defend Obama all the way to whites, obviously. But among themselves, in their media, is there any discussion of how and why he isn't really one of them?

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  40. When I was in college, my fraternity had two black members. One flunked out of school. Two years later the other stole his roommate's ATM card and made a number of withdrawals that resulted in his expulsion from school.

    A year or two after that, some flunky from our national fraternity office asked our chapter president why we didn't have any "African-American" members. His response: "We experimented with Negros and found them to be unsatisfactory". This was 25 or so years ago when you could say things like that and not be immediately ruined.

    Hopefully our electorate will form the same opinion after Obama the effete' fraud finally leaves office.

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  41. someone who looks like you can serve as president

    Well that might be a stretch, but at least he can be elected as president.

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  42. Dr Van Nostrand5/20/13, 1:42 PM


    Obama is a one-off, just as Kennedy was a one-off. There will never be another Irish Catholic or any other kind of white ethnic president. They got their guy, they got to feel like they were part of the group. Obama has let black people feel like they have arrived, that they are now formally part of the power structure. "


    I dont know how you can make such pronouncements. Heck wasnt Reagan technically an Irish Catholic,even if lapsed?
    Im not sure any viable Catholic candidate ran for office since then for whatever reason.
    who were there? Pat Buchanan,John Kerry, Rudy Giuliani, Rick Santorum,Newt Gingrich.
    Were any of these electable?

    But just as Kennedy represented the high water mark for white ethnics- their political influence was greatly diminished in just a few years after his death-"

    If by political influence you mean identity politics then I suppose thats true. However it moved Irish Americans much closer to the mainstream and they had no really had to reason to strut their ethnic street cred except for St Patrick Day celebration and occasional verbal support for IRA among the more deranged like Mickey Rourke.


    Obama may represent the high water mark for blacks. The elite are stampeding over blacks to get Hispanic support tied up."

    I agree with you there. Democrats love a new loyal ethnic group. And if blacks start giving Democrats trouble as in 2012 where 30% of young black males voted for Romney,they can always set the Hispanics on them.
    Except the Hispanics already beat them to it ,if the changing demographics of South Central LA,South Chicago and Brooklyn are any indication.

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  43. OT

    Steve refused to participate in Bitcoin here.

    One week later, this happened: "The Bitcoin threat was eliminated on May 17 when the Gestapo Department of Homeland Security seized Bitcoin's accounts." (From paulcraigroberts.org)

    Steve dodged one there. Stay safe, everyone.

    PS - If your computer has a camera lens, cover the camera lens when you aren't using it. Also: never get a Facebook account (don't bother responding about its privacy features, please). Also: avoid using any "face recognition" app or program. Why? Go figure it out.

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  44. "Obama was our first, and LAST, black president. As others would say: NEVER AGAIN."

    Keep dreaming. Obama stands out next to Bush II who couldn't even speak and Clinton the pud-boy.
    And the media narrative will prop him up as 'the great president who presided over a crucial time when America was hurt by wars and economic depression brought about by bush'.

    As yrs go by, as new Democratic and Republican candidates turn out to be boring, Obama will loom large.

    I see him as a total fraud and puppet, but that's not what makes history. History is made by controllers of academia and media. And at the very least, you gotta give Obama credit that he played a credible role of leader. All an act, yes. He's really a puppet of Jews and Homos, but image is what counts.

    It won't be long before GOP puts up a Negro, and cons will be peeing in their pants more than libs did in their pants over Obama.

    Take Thomas Sowell. He's a smart guy and all, but cons speak of him as the greatest thinker since Plato. I mean gimme a break.

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  45. Have some fun! Go to "What About Our Daughters" and read what The Blogmother, Gina, has to say about Morehouse men and their culture of entitlement.

    Gina knows how to savage empty-headed bruthas and sistahs.

    Betcha didn't know that the star athlete, Genarlow Wilson, was a Morehouse Man, and not only that: he was in the audience cheering Obama.

    Yup. Bruthas do have to work "twice as hard": Genarlow had to rape not one, but TWO little black girls to get a free ride through Morehouse.

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  46. I know it's a dead horse but I want to get in one more swing: it really, truly does seem sometimes that Barack Obama sees American history (if not human history) as a long march toward his own election.

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  47. Dr Van Nostrand asked, "What do the female isteve readers think?" Check out the comments at michellesmirror.com.

    I see a lot of the couple's sniping at each other—public disloyalty.

    —gainny

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  48. Pat, you don't have to endure captcha to preview. Try it.

    Also, you can grab the bottom right corner of the editing box and pull it down and to the right, letting you see the whole post at a glance, much like preview. Try it.

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  49. He said blacks have to work "twice as hard" as any other group? In truth it's half as hard. Has anyone ever in their entire life actually met or seen a black anywhere who worked twice as hard as anyone else?

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  50. "I keep waiting for some commencement speaker to tell the graduates that they've been had. They've spent $40,000 a year on tuition only to gather a credential that they could have gotten by simply taking an IQ test."

    I had a class that consisted of reading the book A Passion for Excellence by Tom Peters.

    That was the whole class. I could have just bought the paperback for 10 bucks.

    College is a joke.Most people don't even take it that seriously.

    Corporations are a joke too. Their executives are busy destroying white America, while they get their big subsidies and pay packages.

    Of course, many conservatives still don't want to tax their ass off.

    I'd tax their asses off.



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  51. I really don't care what the one-time member of Man's Country (along with Rahm Emmanuel) and his shoe-size 15 FL who was never proud to be an American (so why did you marry a presidential candidate?) get up to. I will just be relieved when they're finally off the taxpayer's account.

    The only story about her I want to hear is why she was debarred from practicing law in 1993. She is not FL material, such as it has been. She doesn't want the duties, just the perks, million dollar vacations, and private jets and harbors an anti-white ethos disgusting in someone in her position. So be anti-white if you want, but not in the White House. Why exactly am I supposed to be caring about this person?
    btw, Joe the Plumber, who employed 32 people before 2009, including black guys, died. Or maybe his business did. Now there was a useful person employig useful people I could admire. Imagine this preidential ponce telling a hard-working business man "you didn't build that." Gag me with a spoon.
    I think it's just as well he got a second term, otherwise they'd just be fantasizing about how he'd have been a wonderful president if only the racists had voted him in again. So let's just get this over with.
    Except for this blog, I don't read or see either of them ever. They are scarcely bleeps on my brain.
    I'm very good at ignoring presidents and have been doing so for some time. When people talk about "Pres. Obama" I have to remind myself, oh yeah, he's still in there.

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  52. They can be President of the United States if they can keep those uppity "whites" from leaving the plantation by declaring "secession" to be the moral equivalent of "slavery".

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  53. Jewish gratitude? After Romney lost the race, Bill Maher joked that he looked like someone who just found out his wife did it with a Negro, and Jews from coast to coast howled like hyenas.
    I think it's time for cons to realize Jews are not their friends.


    Ok, but that's actually pretty funny.

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  54. I think it had a lot more to do with the 1965 immigration act then changed hearts and minds.

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  55. Contra Steve, I think Obama is the reverse Dinkins. There will never be another White President in America. Period. The next President is obviously ... Deval Patrick. The Medvedev to Obama's Putin.

    American Whites LOVE Black people. They can't get enough of them, and want them as President, Mayor, and Governor. Because they push the moral superiority buttons, that most White people so desperately crave. [Me I don't give a damn, ever, and you don't get more Scots-Irish for real than that.]

    If Obama were White he'd be toast. Because he's Black he is untouchable. Decades of Hollywood stuff have made most Whites pencil in superior moral and intellectual ability for Black leaders. A "noble lie" considering that 48% of Detroit Adults are illiterate. But one Hollywood, moral status mongering ground zero, is totally invested upon.

    A Black hard-left Dem is untouchable, the Media and Reps can't ever criticize him. Black men have enormous privilege in America. Besides Black candidate = huge Black turnout, depressed (through IRS/FBI/DOJ etc.) White turnout, so there's that going for any Black candidate.

    Dinkins lost because he was a total screw-up and destroyed real estate values. But Obama spread so much money around to his base, that's not a problem -- see Fisker, A1 Batteries, Solyndra, etc.

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  56. ""Too soon to tell." Who said that?"

    It was sort of the punch line to Charlie Wilson's War, the book and movie about the CIA fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

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  57. This guy is melting before our very eyes.

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  58. PS. Would Jews have gained as much power and wealth if most of them had settled in Latin America where rule of law was flimsy and corruption rife?

    Who's to say they didn't?

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  59. Dr Van Nostrand5/21/13, 4:36 AM


    I think it had a lot more to do with the 1965 immigration act then changed hearts and minds."

    Along with eyes,noses,hair,skulls,bodies,languages,customs...

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  60. Whiskey said: The next President is obviously ... Deval Patrick. The Medvedev to Obama's Putin.

    Hunsdon: So Patrick is the soft, smooth, unoffensive technocrat to Obama's gruff, manly, take charge thug?

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  61. PS. Would Jews have gained as much power and wealth if most of them had settled in Latin America where rule of law was flimsy and corruption rife?

    Who's to say they didn't?


    Jews arguably command more economic power in many Latin American countries than in the United States. Venezuela, Colombia, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico. The contest between Hugo Chavez's populism and Jewish power in Venezuela was always just beneath the surface during his administration.

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  62. "Alden said...

    I know it's a dead horse but I want to get in one more swing: it really, truly does seem sometimes that Barack Obama sees American history (if not human history) as a long march toward his own election."

    So did Bill Clinton. So do most Democratic candidates, and a few of the Republican ones. That is partly why they do in fact become President. It is also why none of them should ever be allowed near the office.

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  63. PS. Would Jews have gained as much power and wealth if most of them had settled in Latin America where rule of law was flimsy and corruption rife?

    Check this out:

    A Brief History of Crypto Jews of Spanish and Portuguese Descent

    It has been approximately fifteen-hundred years since the emergence of Crypto Jews in the Iberian Peninsula, and five-hundred years since Crypto Judaism moved to the Americas. Today we find a large Crypto Jewish presence throughout the Western Hemisphere. No one knows for sure how many there really are, however in Brazil alone an estimated 10 to 25% of the total population are Crypto Jews, which translates to 15 to 40 million people.

    If that's true, your question isn't merely a hypothetical, because most of them did settle in Latin America.

    No, Jewish success was built on the Anglo foundation.

    Well...

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  64. Dr Van Nostrand5/21/13, 9:40 AM


    It won't be long before GOP puts up a Negro, and cons will be peeing in their pants more than libs did in their pants over Obama.

    Take Thomas Sowell. He's a smart guy and all, but cons speak of him as the greatest thinker since Plato. I mean gimme a break"

    To be sure the cons are as into tokenism as the libs.
    More than Thomas Sowell, I find the hysteria over Col Allen West perplexing.

    I admire Col. West a great deal and his anti jihad stance in particular but Presidential material?!

    Thomas Sowell deserves his accolades for the most part.

    His writing has clarity and elegance.

    Though quite often he is a bit of apologist for U.S hawkishness.

    Well, he was a marine after all!

    And I think that is part of his mystique, his life experience.


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  65. Yeah, right. Unless they get a job in the civil service or government contracting. Then they have to work half as hard.

    Mr. Anon --

    I left a reply for you regarding Portugal in the "10 Latin Inventions" comment thread.

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  66. Btw, is it too much to ask Latin America to clean up its act so that its teeming masses all wanna come over here? Latin America is part of the New World too. Why is it so lousy? And if Latin America is so great, why don't all Jews emigrate over there?

    PS. Would Jews have gained as much power and wealth if most of them had settled in Latin America where rule of law was flimsy and corruption rife?

    No, Jewish success was built on the Anglo foundation.


    It is not just Jews. It is all of us Europeans too who have benefited from the British New World nations of Canada, USA, Aus and NZ. My dad is an immigrant from Europe (non-English speaking) who came here in the 1950s. He told me he specifically sought out the USA because it was founded by the English and had the traditions of English law, individual freedoms and respect for property rights. He could have immigrated to Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, whatever, but he felt those nations did not have the same political stability and rule of law as the British-influenced nations.

    Today he is very sad to see this nation becoming essentially part of Latin America, a place he distinctly chose not to go to only to find it is now encroaching upon him whether he wants it or not. He cannot believe what is happening today, and how a people who were so proud of their nation and culture when he came seem so ashamed of it now.

    PS. There might be some wealthy Jews in Latin America, but what good is being relatively wealthy when the surrounding environs are so unappealing. Doesn't Mexico have the largest number of gated communities in the world? What we had in the USA was special and it is being pissed away at an alarming rate.

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  67. Contra Steve, I think Obama is the reverse Dinkins. There will never be another White President in America. Period. The next President is obviously ... Deval Patrick. The Medvedev to Obama's Putin.

    American Whites LOVE Black people. They can't get enough of them, and want them as President, Mayor, and Governor. Because they push the moral superiority buttons, that most White people so desperately crave.


    Well, that might be going a little far. But I do think that black candidates will enjoy a pretty big advantage in the Democratic primaries over the net few election cycles just because blacks make up a large percentage of the primary electorate in a lot of key states. And of course the electoral map is really tilted in the Democrats favor right now, so whoever wins the D nomination in 2016 should be a pretty heavy favorite.

    So, a guy like Deval Patrick really could be a contender, especially if Obama endorses him.

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  68. >Jews arguably command more economic power in many Latin American countries than in the United States.<

    A co-worker here in Mexico told me that this country's policies are determined by basically a couple of Mexico City neighborhoods - because they have most of the money. He unselfconsciously added, "These are the Jewish sections of the city." I replied in a mocking tone, "So you think Jews run the country?" Shocked, he gave me a look of intense disapproval. "Of course they do," he said.

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  69. " Theres the problem in race relations: black people tend to project hostility towards white people."

    LMFAO! And who was projecting hostility from 400 to 30 years ago?

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  70. "Maybe only about 1% of African American males can ever hope to be President,"

    This is a funny ass thread! There are about 100 million White American Males in this country; more than a million of them can hope to be president?

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  71. "They've spent $40,000 a year on tuition only to gather a credential that they could have gotten by simply taking an IQ test."

    That would be a brilliant way to build bridges.

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  72. "I took genetics as an undergrad. Almost everything I learned then is obsolete. I taught a dozen or more computer courses - all obsolete too."

    I think the addition and subtraction they used when you were an undergrad is obsolete.

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  73. "And the media narrative will prop him up as 'the great president who presided over a crucial time when America was hurt by wars and economic depression brought about by bush'."

    Will they be wrong?

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  74. "How is it known that Jews laughed at this joke in particular?"

    He and his super-secret organization to the time and effort to install hidden cameras in every Jewish residence in America...Ya fool!

    "I think it's time for cons to realize Jews are not their friends.

    Its time for you to realize that if keeping thinking like that,at this rate you wont have any friends.
    And Im not sure you deserve any."

    Hey Doc., it seems like that comment got your nose caught in a vice...Can I wager a guess that it's a somewhat long, pointy nose; maybe with a bit of a hook at the end?

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  75. "Take Thomas Sowell. He's a smart guy and all, but cons speak of him as the greatest thinker since Plato. I mean gimme a break."

    Plato -- Thomas Sowell, I can't tell you just HOW MANY times I've heard that comparison!

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  76. "Anonymous said...

    It won't be long before GOP puts up a Negro, and cons will be peeing in their pants more than libs did in their pants over Obama."

    You are probably right.

    "Take Thomas Sowell. He's a smart guy and all, but cons speak of him as the greatest thinker since Plato. I mean gimme a break."

    I agree, though one should add that it is entirely the fault of those white conservatives who want to prove how un-racist they are. I certainly don't think that Sowell, who is a scholar and a gentleman, would ever say or think such a thing.

    Take Thomas Sowell. He's a smart guy and all, but cons speak of him as the greatest thinker since Plato. I mean gimme a break.

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  77. "ben tillman said...

    I left a reply for you regarding Portugal in the "10 Latin Inventions" comment thread."

    And I replied to you in turn. In hindsight, I may have been a bit snarky. I certainly don't mean to give offence to you; if memory serves, you are one of the posters here whom I often agree with.

    But not on this. Best Regards.

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  78. "That would be a brilliant way to build bridges."

    University level education is required to produce engineers (and screen out those without the aptitude and the work ethic to make it through the relevant course work). But an employer looking for a kick ass engineer can get as good a result by employing a state university graduate with a high IQ as hiring one from Harvard.

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