I used to watch Matthews' show regularly. He's not ALL bad. His view of the neocons and of their connection to Middle Eastern wars is similar to Steve's for example.
In saner times these two would be shunned as the reprobates that they are. Who but an immoral coward celebrates his own dispossession; but much worse, the dispossession and ultimate vilification of his own offspring (oh yes, they WILL be blamed for non-White failure, the moreso with each passing year of demographic change), all for the sake of his own status groveling in the present.
It doesn't get any more selfish and loathsome than to throw your own progeny under the bus.
These so called 'anti-racist' people treat non-Whites as perpetual children, never responsible for their own actions, never able to stand on their own, and forever dependent on the white man's help.
Matthew would be nothing w/out his MSNBC slot and he know it so he protects it with outlandishness since that is what GE and now Comcast want....since they are both hustled by Al Sharpton to bite the bullet or else.
The decline of Chris Matthews is a cautionary tale.
I read the book that made him famous 'Hard Ball' when it first came out. It's hard to imagine now, but that book was basically a lecture on the importance of civility in politics. He preached tough ideological debate accompanied by mutual respect and admiration. His model for this kind of relationship was his former boss Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan.
What ever happened to the reasonable and sweet young guy? Apparently TV isn't only bad for those who watch.
Didn't Michelle Obama tell blacks to be more assertive, shortly after or was it before Holder's nation of cowards?
Eventually, someone desperate is going to knock that chip off. The act becomes Symbolic transgression.Then, the sacrilage requires public self-abasement and shaming. Catharsis.
But, its all a magical act. Matthews hates whites. He believes in nothing but his career. Oh, the irony.
I didn't do anything to cause cops to treat black kids badly, so I don't need anybody to apologize on my behalf. In my neighborhood, cops would beat on us when they had the chance and my friends and I are about as white as it gets!
"What ever happened to the reasonable and sweet young guy? Apparently TV isn't only bad for those who watch."
My theory is that MSNBC wants to dump him in favor of someone younger and more "in tune" with the leftist Internet circle. So he's doing everything he can to suck up to his bosses in an attempt to stay in their good graces.
Regardless, ever since around 2007 he's been in serious decline. He's made declarations several times about his hatred for Republicans, conservatives, and Christians. The younger guy would never have done that. Also since Obama came into office he never misses a chance to get weepy and teary-eyed every time his dear leader says anything.
Who elected Chris Matthews as the spokesman for "all white people"? I'm sure most of us are very capable of speaking for ourselves without your help Chris!
This comment about the article also unfortunately was not in the Onion:
" Drago Harley
I think all white people should be apologizing for the evils that they do. I wish President Obama would pass a law where white people had to clean the houses of black people or something, or wash their cars. I think white people should not be allowed to own houses and should give their houses to black people. Let the white people live in projects for a change and then there would be social justice and justice for Trayvon. "
Yes, bending over backwards to the point of making themselves second class citizens to help blacks whom they have personally never known, much less harmed, is being just awful towards them. I propose white people help blacks by instead setting up programs to help them all relocate to their own state, lets say Florida, and then separate it from the US as a separate country where they can finally be free of these terrible white people their crimes, poverty and wicked ways and can be the sole beneficiaries of all the geniuses, scientists and entrepreneurs, and all the wealth that comes from the black community.
I propose white people help blacks by instead setting up programs to help them all relocate to their own state, lets say Florida, and then separate it from the US as a separate country ...
Why not Massachusetts or Minnesota or Illinois instead of Florida?
Let the white people live in projects for a change
Of course if it was whites living in the projects instead of blacks then they would no longer be crime-ridden hellholes. It is the blacks who make the projects awful places to live.
" I propose white people help blacks by instead setting up programs to help them all relocate to their own state, lets say Florida, and then separate it from the US as a separate country "
I saw a black lady on TV saying she wished whites would just leave blacks alone and stay out their neighborhoods and stop burning them down.
It's funny because white people did want to leave black people alone but the federal govt forced black people onto to white people through Brown V Board, anti discrimination laws, anti restrictive covenant laws, section 8 etc.
Well, Chris let me be the first to say on behalf of all black people, thank you. But apology is only half the story. I'll believe you are sorry when you donate all of your wealth above a standard middle class existence to a black charity, and immediately step down from your post and get them to hire a black man for the job instead of pushing for affirmative action to take the jobs of other people.
Chris Matthews, "progressive" (like cancer or rust) white supremacist: he thinks his white skin, blond hair, and blue eyes gives him the racial authority to speak for all honkies, everywhere.
He's also a narcissist; he would never deign to apologize to his black co-workers on behalf of Chris Matthews.
Chris, on behalf of all spine-bearing, dignity-having whites everywhere: go to hell. We can all speak for ourselves.
On behalf of the white race, I'd like to apologize to the world for Chris Matthews.
My apologies to all white people everywhere for presuming to speak for them.
I too am waiting for those million man marches to clog the arteries of every major metropolis. As of now, there's only been a few dozen fat ghettoizens waddling down the street, joined by the occasional Jewish woman.
You know America is in decline when they can't even riot correctly anymore.
Not that there aren't zillion of these examples of the pervasive double standard but here is the latest: http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/12/why-is-joshua-chellew-less-important-than-trayvon-martin
Why is Joshua Chellew less important than Trayvon Martin?
I find it pretty interesting to see the difference between the small subset of the country that was really immersed in this stuff, for whom this story was the biggest racial crisis since the assassination of MLK, and the majority of people in the country, for whom, according to the polls and the evidence of my own eyes:
a. Most weren't paying a huge amount of attention.
b. Most discounted the hyperbole from the media.
c. Most thought the decision was probably right, and that the whole thing wasn't a huge deal.
I mean, it was a huge deal for Martin, who got shot to death in questionable circumstances. It was a huge deal for Zimmerman, who was charged with murder. And for the local police chief who lost his job, and various reporters who covered the story. But most people seem to have concluded, correctly, that this was one of those local crimes or tragedies that happens all the time, and that it didn't have many deeper implications.
I find this hugely hopeful. A big chunk of the MSM invested a lot of energy into blowing this case up into something it never was. In service of that goal, they lied and omitted information and spun like crazy. And yet, most Americans, black and white, appear not to have bought it. I very much hope the same holds true for the next several times the MSM tries to get us all invested in some controversy that should never have been a controversy.
I'm sad to say that being dead wrong probably won't hurt anyone's carer prospects, though. Just like with the Iraq war, where all the people who told us that Saddam was an imminent threat to the US are still treated as serious foreign policy thinkers, whereas the ones that told us he wasn't are still widely understood to be blame-America-first liberal moonbats, or black-helicopter-tea-bag right wing crazies. Al Sharpton will gain influence from this, much as Willam Krystol gained influence from helping sell that pointless clusterfuck in Iraq.
But having the prestige media lose more and more influence over what people think, that seems like it can only be to the good.
Even there, I wonder if there are actually more black on white crimes, or just a more convenient label to put on more of them than ("sorry, buddy, you were in the wrong place at the wrong time"). I mean, if someone goes polar bear hunting tonight and beats the crap out of some white guy, he may well make some passing reference to Trayvon, but he might just be the sort of guy who likes getting together with friends and beating some random stranger (preferably white, but black will do in a pinch) senseless.
Chris Matthews is an intellectual the way Robert Reich is an NBA center.
Columnists and talking heads and journalists are very rarely intellectuals or deep thinkers. The talents and habits needed to be one don't work very well for the other.
A few people manage to do both, mainly by putting out fairly shoddy thinking as a columnist or talking head, but also doing some deep thinking and writing books or something at other times. Thomas Sowell (in his younger days) and Paul Krugman fit this pattern.
Once again Average Joe has hit upon the truth. Trust me that's not all that average.
I used to visit the public housing projects when I was a public social worker. It wasn't all that common in the Welfare Department either. The policy was to do a home visit every six months in AFDC-U. But most social workers were young women and the Department didn't have the stomach for sending them into Hunter's Point. And they wouldn't have gone.
I was just about the only social worker I knew who routinely went there. One day leaving a client's apartment I was confronted with a group of angry young black men blocking the way back to my car. As I remember they all looked like Trayvon Martin. I also remembered to show no fear and I pushed through the center of them.
So A Dente unless you have had similar experiences with blacks in the projects, don't lecture me on their plight.
Average Joe is right that the blacks projects are the way they are because of the blacks in them, not because of their construction or geographical location.
I was a young white couple on my caseload. They were a revelation. They were happy and grateful to government for helping them out. They had had no trouble living on their monthly grant and had decorated their tiny apartment with handcrafts. They didn't live in the projects but if they had and other whites like them done so, the projects would be gardens.
Consider the difference between a college dorm and a minimum prison. Similar living conditions (small shared rooms, shared common space, shared bathrooms, cafeteria meals). But most people enjoy that environment--they're surrounded by relatively bright kids with a future, not knuckleheaded thugs.
Similarly, grad students tend to live on almost nothing in shabby housing. Yet grad student housing is rarely a nightmarish hotbead of crime and hopelessness. (And the grad students' kids don't bring down the local public schools' test scores, either.).
Poverty in other places and times is/was largely about lack of stuff. In the US, it's largely about lousy neighbors and low status.
Sorry, but back in the day the Southie projects were violent and drug infested, and they were whiter than Deborah Ann Woll. They gave the city Whitey Bulger.
More killing, though, now that they're integrated.
Im not in the prediction business, I'm in the logic business,Chief; you're the Amazing Kreskin.
" I find it pretty interesting to see the difference between the small subset of the country that was really immersed in this stuff..."
I'd have to agree, in all of the subsets in which I travel, home, work, the gym, the black barber shop, this site seemed to be the only one in which it was a life-changing event, even as much as the media tried to fan the flames of division.
Lots of media coverage seemed to see it that way, and many internet sites on the left as well made some comment. The most prominent was TNC's blog, but that's more or less his beat, so it's not shocking that he spent a lot of time on it.
I heard about it a little at work, but not as a major issue, more as the latest bit of cultural weirdness. Of course, I work in a 90%+ white and Asian environment, so it could easily be different elsewhere. But mainly, it looks to me like lots of media types tried to have a big public freak out, maybe incite some riots, but hardly anyone was listening.
Apologizing on behalf of the entire white race must've sent quite a tingle up his leg.
ReplyDeleteI really don't know anymore what I'm reading.
ReplyDeleteNot long ago, this would have been oniony.
But then, the idea of 'gay marriage' would have been oniony not long ago too.
And Zimmerman is like Lanza? This from a prominent intellectual?
I give up.
I apologize on behalf of the human species for producing a Chris Matthews.
ReplyDeleteI used to watch Matthews' show regularly. He's not ALL bad. His view of the neocons and of their connection to Middle Eastern wars is similar to Steve's for example.
ReplyDeleteHow do you drive Stevie Wonder crazy?
ReplyDeleteTell him he's in Florida in all 50 states.
What disgraces he and Timmy Wise are.
ReplyDeleteIn saner times these two would be shunned as the reprobates that they are. Who but an immoral coward celebrates his own dispossession; but much worse, the dispossession and ultimate vilification of his own offspring (oh yes, they WILL be blamed for non-White failure, the moreso with each passing year of demographic change), all for the sake of his own status groveling in the present.
It doesn't get any more selfish and loathsome than to throw your own progeny under the bus.
These so called 'anti-racist' people treat non-Whites as perpetual children, never responsible for their own actions, never able to stand on their own, and forever dependent on the white man's help.
Matthew would be nothing w/out his MSNBC slot and he know it so he protects it with outlandishness since that is what GE and now Comcast want....since they are both hustled by Al Sharpton to bite the bullet or else.
ReplyDeleteDoes that include 'white hispanics' too?
ReplyDeleteBtw, do you recall some Jewish reporter saying he apologizes on behalf of all Jews for the Bernie Goetz thing?
Here's a good presentation Charles Murray gave last month...
ReplyDeletehttp://www.scribd.com/doc/154952653/The-Rediscovery-of-Human-Nature-and-Human-Diversity
From here:
http://darwinianconservatism.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-mps-in-galapagos-5-human-nature-and.html
The rest of the session blog posts are worth a read too.
leave me out of this chris! you and your grotesquely swollen head!
ReplyDeleteThe decline of Chris Matthews is a cautionary tale.
ReplyDeleteI read the book that made him famous 'Hard Ball' when it first came out. It's hard to imagine now, but that book was basically a lecture on the importance of civility in politics. He preached tough ideological debate accompanied by mutual respect and admiration. His model for this kind of relationship was his former boss Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan.
What ever happened to the reasonable and sweet young guy? Apparently TV isn't only bad for those who watch.
Albertosaurus
I think his parents definitely owe all of us an apology.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Michelle Obama tell blacks to be more assertive, shortly after or was it before Holder's nation of cowards?
ReplyDeleteEventually, someone desperate is going to knock that chip off. The act becomes Symbolic transgression.Then, the sacrilage requires public self-abasement and shaming. Catharsis.
But, its all a magical act. Matthews hates whites. He believes in nothing but his career. Oh, the irony.
[QUOTE]Does that include 'white hispanics' too?[/QUOTE]
ReplyDeleteIt would be very weird if the blond haired and blue eyed Chris Matthews sees the Triracial George Zimmerman as part of the White race.
I thought only Blacks see George Zimmerman as being "White".
I didn't do anything to cause cops to treat black kids badly, so I don't need anybody to apologize on my behalf. In my neighborhood, cops would beat on us when they had the chance and my friends and I are about as white as it gets!
ReplyDelete"What ever happened to the reasonable and sweet young guy? Apparently TV isn't only bad for those who watch."
ReplyDeleteMy theory is that MSNBC wants to dump him in favor of someone younger and more "in tune" with the leftist Internet circle. So he's doing everything he can to suck up to his bosses in an attempt to stay in their good graces.
Regardless, ever since around 2007 he's been in serious decline. He's made declarations several times about his hatred for Republicans, conservatives, and Christians. The younger guy would never have done that. Also since Obama came into office he never misses a chance to get weepy and teary-eyed every time his dear leader says anything.
Black people, Chris Matthews doesn't speak for this white man.
ReplyDeleteI apologize for nothing, and have nothing to apologize for.
Who elected Chris Matthews as the spokesman for "all white people"? I'm sure most of us are very capable of speaking for ourselves without your help Chris!
ReplyDeleteFox should simply make him a better offer. He'll change his tune quickly enough.
ReplyDeleteAnon.
Tingles does not even speak for all white drunks.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry Matthews is white.
ReplyDeleteThis comment about the article also unfortunately was not in the Onion:
ReplyDelete" Drago Harley
I think all white people should be apologizing for the evils that they do. I wish President Obama would pass a law where white people had to clean the houses of black people or something, or wash their cars. I think white people should not be allowed to own houses and should give their houses to black people. Let the white people live in projects for a change and then there would be social justice and justice for Trayvon. "
Yes, bending over backwards to the point of making themselves second class citizens to help blacks whom they have personally never known, much less harmed, is being just awful towards them. I propose white people help blacks by instead setting up programs to help them all relocate to their own state, lets say Florida, and then separate it from the US as a separate country where they can finally be free of these terrible white people their crimes, poverty and wicked ways and can be the sole beneficiaries of all the geniuses, scientists and entrepreneurs, and all the wealth that comes from the black community.
The media are trying to incite anti-white violence.
ReplyDeleteI propose white people help blacks by instead setting up programs to help them all relocate to their own state, lets say Florida, and then separate it from the US as a separate country ...
ReplyDeleteWhy not Massachusetts or Minnesota or Illinois instead of Florida?
Let the white people live in projects for a change
ReplyDeleteOf course if it was whites living in the projects instead of blacks then they would no longer be crime-ridden hellholes. It is the blacks who make the projects awful places to live.
" I propose white people help blacks by instead setting up programs to help them all relocate to their own state, lets say Florida, and then separate it from the US as a separate country "
ReplyDeleteI saw a black lady on TV saying she wished whites would just leave blacks alone and stay out their neighborhoods and stop burning them down.
It's funny because white people did want to leave black people alone but the federal govt forced black people onto to white people through Brown V Board, anti discrimination laws, anti restrictive covenant laws, section 8 etc.
Relax, people.
ReplyDeleteChris Matthews' audience is all white.
Both of them.
The Green Shadow strikes again. K-Mac wept.
ReplyDeleteWell, Chris let me be the first to say on behalf of all black people, thank you. But apology is only half the story. I'll believe you are sorry when you donate all of your wealth above a standard middle class existence to a black charity, and immediately step down from your post and get them to hire a black man for the job instead of pushing for affirmative action to take the jobs of other people.
ReplyDeleteChris Matthews, "progressive" (like cancer or rust) white supremacist: he thinks his white skin, blond hair, and blue eyes gives him the racial authority to speak for all honkies, everywhere.
ReplyDeleteHe's also a narcissist; he would never deign to apologize to his black co-workers on behalf of Chris Matthews.
Chris, on behalf of all spine-bearing, dignity-having whites everywhere: go to hell. We can all speak for ourselves.
On behalf of the white race, I'd like to apologize to the world for Chris Matthews.
My apologies to all white people everywhere for presuming to speak for them.
[QUOTE]Does that include 'white hispanics' too?[/QUOTE]
ReplyDeleteGoddamnit, enough already. This is not vBulletin. Use HTML.
So, it's been a week now; when are all of these massive, nationwide riots going to start? I'm looking forward to doing some looting and burning.
ReplyDelete(Should be any day now, right?)
I too am waiting for those million man marches to clog the arteries of every major metropolis. As of now, there's only been a few dozen fat ghettoizens waddling down the street, joined by the occasional Jewish woman.
ReplyDeleteYou know America is in decline when they can't even riot correctly anymore.
do you recall some Jewish reporter saying he apologizes on behalf of all Jews for the Bernie Goetz thing?
ReplyDeleteBernie Goetz is only half-Jewish. Maybe some reporter made half of an apology?
Heineken stocks low in your fridge, eh Truthy?
ReplyDeleteNot that there aren't zillion of these examples of the pervasive double standard but here is the latest:
ReplyDeletehttp://dailycaller.com/2013/07/12/why-is-joshua-chellew-less-important-than-trayvon-martin
Why is Joshua Chellew less important than Trayvon Martin?
http://blogs.tnr.com/article/113574/when-evil-was-social-system-moral-burdens-communist-rule#
ReplyDeleteSo, it's been a week now; when are all of these massive, nationwide riots going to start? I'm looking forward to doing some looting and burning.
ReplyDelete(Should be any day now, right?)
IIRC, I predicted flash mobs at most, some scattered revenge crimes at least, and so far it seems like a decent guess.
I don't remember you making any predictions.
Truth:
ReplyDeleteI find it pretty interesting to see the difference between the small subset of the country that was really immersed in this stuff, for whom this story was the biggest racial crisis since the assassination of MLK, and the majority of people in the country, for whom, according to the polls and the evidence of my own eyes:
a. Most weren't paying a huge amount of attention.
b. Most discounted the hyperbole from the media.
c. Most thought the decision was probably right, and that the whole thing wasn't a huge deal.
I mean, it was a huge deal for Martin, who got shot to death in questionable circumstances. It was a huge deal for Zimmerman, who was charged with murder. And for the local police chief who lost his job, and various reporters who covered the story. But most people seem to have concluded, correctly, that this was one of those local crimes or tragedies that happens all the time, and that it didn't have many deeper implications.
I find this hugely hopeful. A big chunk of the MSM invested a lot of energy into blowing this case up into something it never was. In service of that goal, they lied and omitted information and spun like crazy. And yet, most Americans, black and white, appear not to have bought it. I very much hope the same holds true for the next several times the MSM tries to get us all invested in some controversy that should never have been a controversy.
I'm sad to say that being dead wrong probably won't hurt anyone's carer prospects, though. Just like with the Iraq war, where all the people who told us that Saddam was an imminent threat to the US are still treated as serious foreign policy thinkers, whereas the ones that told us he wasn't are still widely understood to be blame-America-first liberal moonbats, or black-helicopter-tea-bag right wing crazies. Al Sharpton will gain influence from this, much as Willam Krystol gained influence from helping sell that pointless clusterfuck in Iraq.
But having the prestige media lose more and more influence over what people think, that seems like it can only be to the good.
Svigor:
ReplyDeleteEven there, I wonder if there are actually more black on white crimes, or just a more convenient label to put on more of them than ("sorry, buddy, you were in the wrong place at the wrong time"). I mean, if someone goes polar bear hunting tonight and beats the crap out of some white guy, he may well make some passing reference to Trayvon, but he might just be the sort of guy who likes getting together with friends and beating some random stranger (preferably white, but black will do in a pinch) senseless.
Anon 10:24:
ReplyDeleteChris Matthews is an intellectual the way Robert Reich is an NBA center.
Columnists and talking heads and journalists are very rarely intellectuals or deep thinkers. The talents and habits needed to be one don't work very well for the other.
A few people manage to do both, mainly by putting out fairly shoddy thinking as a columnist or talking head, but also doing some deep thinking and writing books or something at other times. Thomas Sowell (in his younger days) and Paul Krugman fit this pattern.
Once again Average Joe has hit upon the truth. Trust me that's not all that average.
ReplyDeleteI used to visit the public housing projects when I was a public social worker. It wasn't all that common in the Welfare Department either. The policy was to do a home visit every six months in AFDC-U. But most social workers were young women and the Department didn't have the stomach for sending them into Hunter's Point. And they wouldn't have gone.
I was just about the only social worker I knew who routinely went there. One day leaving a client's apartment I was confronted with a group of angry young black men blocking the way back to my car. As I remember they all looked like Trayvon Martin. I also remembered to show no fear and I pushed through the center of them.
So A Dente unless you have had similar experiences with blacks in the projects, don't lecture me on their plight.
Average Joe is right that the blacks projects are the way they are because of the blacks in them, not because of their construction or geographical location.
I was a young white couple on my caseload. They were a revelation. They were happy and grateful to government for helping them out. They had had no trouble living on their monthly grant and had decorated their tiny apartment with handcrafts. They didn't live in the projects but if they had and other whites like them done so, the projects would be gardens.
Albertosaurus
Consider the difference between a college dorm and a minimum prison. Similar living conditions (small shared rooms, shared common space, shared bathrooms, cafeteria meals). But most people enjoy that environment--they're surrounded by relatively bright kids with a future, not knuckleheaded thugs.
ReplyDeleteSimilarly, grad students tend to live on almost nothing in shabby housing. Yet grad student housing is rarely a nightmarish hotbead of crime and hopelessness. (And the grad students' kids don't bring down the local public schools' test scores, either.).
Poverty in other places and times is/was largely about lack of stuff. In the US, it's largely about lousy neighbors and low status.
Sorry, but back in the day the Southie projects were violent and drug infested, and they were whiter than Deborah Ann Woll. They gave the city Whitey Bulger.
ReplyDeleteMore killing, though, now that they're integrated.
"I don't remember you making any predictions."
ReplyDeleteIm not in the prediction business, I'm in the logic business,Chief; you're the Amazing Kreskin.
"I don't remember you making any predictions."
ReplyDeleteIm not in the prediction business, I'm in the logic business,Chief; you're the Amazing Kreskin.
"
I find it pretty interesting to see the difference between the small subset of the country that was really immersed in this stuff..."
I'd have to agree, in all of the subsets in which I travel, home, work, the gym, the black barber shop, this site seemed to be the only one in which it was a life-changing event, even as much as the media tried to fan the flames of division.
Truth:
ReplyDeleteLots of media coverage seemed to see it that way, and many internet sites on the left as well made some comment. The most prominent was TNC's blog, but that's more or less his beat, so it's not shocking that he spent a lot of time on it.
I heard about it a little at work, but not as a major issue, more as the latest bit of cultural weirdness. Of course, I work in a 90%+ white and Asian environment, so it could easily be different elsewhere. But mainly, it looks to me like lots of media types tried to have a big public freak out, maybe incite some riots, but hardly anyone was listening.
Anon 2:39:
ReplyDeleteIt could be worse. Blacks apparently got Al Sharpton selected as their spokesman.