I count three who could easily pass for white, and a fourth who could pass for something other than black (hispanic, a deeply tanned caucasian, indian, or whatever).
Harold Ford, Jr., in office 1997-2007 (inherited his seat from his father, HF, Sr.), was very pasty and had Euro facial features; only his hair indicated his African ancestry.
Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) is a member of the Hispanic Republican caucus because he has a Portugese somewhere in the family tree. Coulda fooled me.
What's all this "honorable" malarkey? Especially when Congressional ethics investigations have a disparate impact on CBC members.
Lacy ("Lazy") Clay might look white, but a box of rocks will get the better of him on an IQ test any day. He's in Congress because he chose the right father.
1 – 8 of 8 Anonymous Anonymous said... DOUBLE POST!!!
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9/20/13, 8:32 AM Delete Anonymous Anonymous said... You forgot a few names.
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9/20/13, 9:02 AM Delete Anonymous Anonymous said... Honorable?
9/20/13, 9:12 AM Delete Anonymous Gringo said... In addition, there is Benjamin Jealous, who will remain President of the NAACP until the end of the year.
9/20/13, 10:12 AM Delete Blogger panjoomby said... how honorable looking is the congressional black caucus? btw, my son wears a shirt that says obama has a huge caucus.
9/20/13, 11:13 AM Delete Blogger Power Child said... Double post?
Speaking of the black wife advantage: In her official portrait at least, Marcia L. Fudge looks like she could be a close relative of my wife, like an aunt or an older step-sister or something. The most striking similarity is their noses, mouths, and hue.
Do you suppose black women who date/marry white men are more likely to be lighter-skinned? Despite the example of my wife (she also has freckles, green eyes, and red hair from a solitary Irish great-great-grandfather who I imagine looked like this) my experience has been that there is no steady correlation.
9/20/13, 12:27 PM Delete Anonymous dearieme said... In the old South Africa, most would be classed as "coloured", a few as "black" and one as "white". Or so I guess.
"Lacy ("Lazy") Clay might look white, but a box of rocks will get the better of him on an IQ test any day. He's in Congress because he chose the right father."
Indeed, and he stabbed his own party in the back to keep his seat. When Missouri lost a seat in redistricting, the Democratic governor wanted to divide the St. Louis area into two racially-mixed Democratic leaning seats. The Republican legislature instead passed a plan that put the city into one black district and left Todd Akin's Republican seat intact. The governor vetoed the plan, and Clay had his allies side with the GOP in overriding the veto. The big loser in all this, Russ Carnahan, was so angry that he almost got into a fistfight with Clay when it happened. Carnahan challenged Clay in the primary, and lost overwhelmingly.
I followed redistricting in 2011 and 2012 very closely. Everything you told me, I already know. The plan all along, when it became official that MO was going down from 9 to 8 districts, was for the General Assembly to enact a map that would be a 6-2 Republican advantage, by clumping as many St. Louis blacks and otherwise Democrat voters in one district and ditto for Kansas City in another district.
Racial gerrymandering benefits black Democrats and white Republicans at the expense of white liberal Democrats.
Seamus said... How does G.K. Butterfield possibly pass as black?
His family hails from Bermuda around 1910. At that time in US being "touched by the tar brush" qualified you as black, so Butterfield Sr apparently went into politics being elected by blacks to serve in the white town council. Ever since that the Butterfields have been grandfathered into blackness by the one drop rule. So he is really not a faker exactly. It is interesting to compare his story to Alexander Hamilton's.
His family story of victimization: Butterfield tells the story of when his uncle died because the white doctor did not arrive after more than eight hours after the accident.
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Charles Rangel is a dead ringer for my former Indian Hindu boss and Chakah Fatah looks like the Mexican car salesman I bought my Toyota from. As for Butterfield how he can be considered 'black' seems inconceivable.
I don't see the point of this post. They look no more white (or black) than a random assortment of African Americans, amongst whom some invariably are fairer skinned.
That's what "black" leadership used to took like. You can imagine how frustrated they were to not easily pass over into white society. But they knew as well as anyone that they were a minority-minority.
However, the stupid woman in this article could easily be the victim of a hate crime by blacks who would not know or care about her small amount of "tainted" genes.
You're a little too young yet for a moustache. But you don't even have to spend the three days or so it would take to grow a little one. You have your picture posted on this blog and almost no other blogger does so. Just Photoshop on a moustache.
You might also experiment with darkening your features. Just how much 'blackface' would it take to make you fit in with the CBC?
Wow a little disturbed by all the Butterfield hate.
His long biography, including pictures of his clearly African-American parents is available here: http://butterfield.house.gov/about/biography
His great-grandmother was also a slave if that's any "consolation" to you.
Really what gives any of you the right to tell someone what their identity is based on YOUR perception of them? Especially something as superficial as outward appearance?
Only he knows his family history and his own experience. Just because he doesn't LOOK "black enough" to you doesn't mean anything.
Chaka Fattah might not have the skin, but he's got the name.
ReplyDeleteI would have G K Butterfield mail in a cheek swab. He looks like a coin flip.
ReplyDeleteWell, there's always Rep. John Lewis.
ReplyDeleteNow that Ben Jealous is retiring as head of the NAACP, maybe the Honorable G.K. Butterfield can take over if Vanilla Ice isn't available.
Don't forget they get lighter as they age.
ReplyDeleteI count three who could easily pass for white, and a fourth who could pass for something other than black (hispanic, a deeply tanned caucasian, indian, or whatever).
ReplyDeleteHow does G.K. Butterfield possibly pass as black?
ReplyDeleteHarold Ford, Jr., in office 1997-2007 (inherited his seat from his father, HF, Sr.), was very pasty and had Euro facial features; only his hair indicated his African ancestry.
ReplyDeleteSenator Pat Toomey (R-PA) is a member of the Hispanic Republican caucus because he has a Portugese somewhere in the family tree. Coulda fooled me.
While some of them clearly are mixed, Butterfield is the only one whom I would not immediately identify as black upon sight.
ReplyDeletePeter
Butterfield is whiter than my 'white' Tennessee in-laws!
ReplyDeleteno doubt others have mentioned this(in addition to it being quite obvious), but there is a double post here Steve.
ReplyDeleteThey look a lot like the Creole ruling class of Haiti. Given a chance, I believe they would govern like them too.
ReplyDeleteYou double posted this. Feel free to delete this message.
ReplyDeletemaybe it's just me, but the rest of your webpage content is blank- it just shows you CBC post and a copy too, but nothing below it...
ReplyDeleteFrom wiki:
ReplyDelete"Butterfield has three adult daughters, Valeisha, Lenai and Tunya"
Keepin' it real.
Better question is how honorable is 'honorable'?
ReplyDeleteAnd how often did Obama attend CBC meetings when he was a Jr. Senator?
ReplyDeleteNEVER
I would guess 9-10 could be half or greater African ancestry. Six probably a quarter or less.
ReplyDeleteWhat's all this "honorable" malarkey? Especially when Congressional ethics investigations have a disparate impact on CBC members.
ReplyDeleteLacy ("Lazy") Clay might look white, but a box of rocks will get the better of him on an IQ test any day. He's in Congress because he chose the right father.
Mel Watt definitely had the 1940s movie star mustache I want.
ReplyDeleteDid you try to grow one? Are there pics?
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Honorable?
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In addition, there is Benjamin Jealous, who will remain President of the NAACP until the end of the year.
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Blogger panjoomby said...
how honorable looking is the congressional black caucus?
btw, my son wears a shirt that says obama has a huge caucus.
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Blogger Power Child said...
Double post?
Speaking of the black wife advantage: In her official portrait at least, Marcia L. Fudge looks like she could be a close relative of my wife, like an aunt or an older step-sister or something. The most striking similarity is their noses, mouths, and hue.
Do you suppose black women who date/marry white men are more likely to be lighter-skinned? Despite the example of my wife (she also has freckles, green eyes, and red hair from a solitary Irish great-great-grandfather who I imagine looked like this) my experience has been that there is no steady correlation.
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Anonymous dearieme said...
In the old South Africa, most would be classed as "coloured", a few as "black" and one as "white". Or so I guess.
9/20/13, 2:48 PM Delete
Rangel represents a Hispanic-majority seat, so he'll be gone pretty soon. Either he retires or loses the primary.
ReplyDelete"Lacy ("Lazy") Clay might look white, but a box of rocks will get the better of him on an IQ test any day. He's in Congress because he chose the right father."
ReplyDeleteIndeed, and he stabbed his own party in the back to keep his seat. When Missouri lost a seat in redistricting, the Democratic governor wanted to divide the St. Louis area into two racially-mixed Democratic leaning seats. The Republican legislature instead passed a plan that put the city into one black district and left Todd Akin's Republican seat intact. The governor vetoed the plan, and Clay had his allies side with the GOP in overriding the veto. The big loser in all this, Russ Carnahan, was so angry that he almost got into a fistfight with Clay when it happened. Carnahan challenged Clay in the primary, and lost overwhelmingly.
Thanks for moving my comment here, Steve. Here are the links that got lost in translation:
ReplyDeleteMarcia L Fudge's official portrait, in which she looks like a close relative of my wife.
What I secretly imagine my wife's sole known white ancestor looked like.
Butterfield's got Chesterton's chin, intitials, and skin color.
ReplyDeleteOff topic:
ReplyDeleteInteresting essay by Jonathan Last:
https://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/two-miserable-decades_756477.html
Anonymous
ReplyDeleteI followed redistricting in 2011 and 2012 very closely. Everything you told me, I already know. The plan all along, when it became official that MO was going down from 9 to 8 districts, was for the General Assembly to enact a map that would be a 6-2 Republican advantage, by clumping as many St. Louis blacks and otherwise Democrat voters in one district and ditto for Kansas City in another district.
Racial gerrymandering benefits black Democrats and white Republicans at the expense of white liberal Democrats.
Oh, and thanks for mentioning my ex-boss.
Seamus said...
ReplyDeleteHow does G.K. Butterfield possibly pass as black?
His family hails from Bermuda around 1910. At that time in US being "touched by the tar brush" qualified you as black, so Butterfield Sr apparently went into politics being elected by blacks to serve in the white town council. Ever since that the Butterfields have been grandfathered into blackness by the one drop rule. So he is really not a faker exactly. It is interesting to compare his story to Alexander Hamilton's.
http://records.ancestry.com/George_Kenneth_Butterfield_records.ashx?pid=3530980
His family story of victimization:
Butterfield tells the story of when his uncle died because the white doctor did not arrive after more than eight hours after the accident.
http://castroller.com/podcasts/TheRiseAnd/2727803
The 'white' slave children of New Orleans: Images of pale mixed-race slaves used to drum up sympathy among wealthy donors in 1860s
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2107458/The-white-slave-children-New-Orleans-Images-pale-mixed-race-slaves-used-drum-sympathy-funds-wealthy-donors-1860s.html#ixzz2fToXZkz9
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By my math, the Black Caucasians are approximately hexaroon, but for some reason one of them is Mexican. Could he be Black-Hispanic?
ReplyDelete"Racial gerrymandering benefits black Democrats and white Republicans at the expense of white liberal Democrats."
ReplyDeleteThat really is the untold story of Republican successes since the 90s. Especially in the deep South.
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/oct/10/year-zero-1945-oh-what-lovely-war/?pagination=false
ReplyDeleteMr. Butterfield's ex-wife.
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Farmer-Butterfield
"Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteBetter question is how honorable is 'honorable'?"
Yeah, I don't think that honorific should be used with most congressman.
Butterfield looks like David Axelrod or Dabney Coleman.
ReplyDeleteThat Butterfield guy is black? If that is not 'one drop' I don't know what is.
ReplyDeleteCharles Rangel is a dead ringer for my former Indian Hindu boss and Chakah Fatah looks like the Mexican car salesman I bought my Toyota from. As for Butterfield how he can be considered 'black' seems inconceivable.
ReplyDeleteI don't see the point of this post. They look no more white (or black) than a random assortment of African Americans, amongst whom some invariably are fairer skinned.
ReplyDeleteColonel Quaadaffy (former African) would feel right at home.
ReplyDeleteGarrett Morris and Julian Bond
ReplyDeleteIf that is not 'one drop' I don't know what is.
ReplyDeleteThat's what "black" leadership used to took like. You can imagine how frustrated they were to not easily pass over into white society. But they knew as well as anyone that they were a minority-minority.
They look a little lighter on average than your typical black-in-the-street, but aside from one or two ringers there's not much to see here.
ReplyDeleteBlogger Power Child said...
ReplyDeleteThanks for moving my comment here, Steve. Here are the links that got lost in translation:
Marcia L Fudge's official portrait, in which she looks like a close relative of my wife.
What I secretly imagine my wife's sole known white ancestor looked like.
This Marcia Fudge looks a little like a black Rachel Maddow!
@ironrails: "While some of them clearly are mixed..."
ReplyDeleteUumm, I think you mean "bi-racial."
American blacks have a "one drop" definition when it comes to padding the racial resume:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/02/20/mistaken_identity/
However, the stupid woman in this article could easily be the victim of a hate crime by blacks who would not know or care about her small amount of "tainted" genes.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/23/booming/starting-out-us-against-the-world-but-still-together.html
You're a little too young yet for a moustache. But you don't even have to spend the three days or so it would take to grow a little one. You have your picture posted on this blog and almost no other blogger does so. Just Photoshop on a moustache.
ReplyDeleteYou might also experiment with darkening your features. Just how much 'blackface' would it take to make you fit in with the CBC?
Albertosaurus
Wow a little disturbed by all the Butterfield hate.
ReplyDeleteHis long biography, including pictures of his clearly African-American parents is available here: http://butterfield.house.gov/about/biography
His great-grandmother was also a slave if that's any "consolation" to you.
Really what gives any of you the right to tell someone what their identity is based on YOUR perception of them? Especially something as superficial as outward appearance?
Only he knows his family history and his own experience. Just because he doesn't LOOK "black enough" to you doesn't mean anything.