The national press is getting itself worked up over a story of "racial profiling" out of Miami Gardens, FL. Below is a representative example out of Slate, but you can read much the same thing at NPR ("Miami-Area Police Force Accused Of Rampant Racial Profiling"), USA Today ("Miami-area police agency charged with racial profiling"), NY Daily News, the Atlantic, etc.
How "Zero Tolerance" Policing Helped Bad Cops in Florida Create a Civil Rights Nightmare
By Justin Peters
The Miami Herald has published a stunning, maddening story about alleged persistent police harassment of blacks in the city of Miami Gardens, Fla. (You should read the entire Herald story; it will raise your blood pressure and ruin your weekend, but you should still read it.) For years, police would come to a convenience store in a transitional neighborhood and hassle black customers and employees in the name of proactive crime prevention—regularly citing and arresting men for loitering or trespassing, even when they weren’t.
One man, an employee of the store, was “stopped and questioned by Miami Gardens police 258 times in four years,” with almost all of these incidents happening on store premises. He was arrested 62 times for trespassing, and, again, these were arrests for being on the grounds of the store where he was employed.
You know, I think by the 61st arrest, much less the 62nd, it's not racial profiling anymore in the sense of being statistical. By then, it's gotta be kind of personal.
These incidents and others were recorded by video cameras installed by the store’s owner for the express purpose of documenting police misconduct:
The videos show, among other things, cops stopping citizens, questioning them, aggressively searching them and arresting them for trespassing when they have permission to be on the premises; officers conducting searches of [storeowner Alex] Saleh’s business without search warrants or permission; using what appears to be excessive force on subjects who are clearly not resisting arrest and filing inaccurate police reports in connection with the arrests.
How does something like this happen? Blame it on endemic racism, yes, and on bad apples in the police department—but also blame it on a short-sighted local crime-reduction policy that, in retrospect, was always, always ripe for abuse. The convenience store incidents began when police convinced the store’s owner to enroll in the department’s “Zero Tolerance Zone” program. In Miami Gardens, when a shop becomes a Zero Tolerance Zone, the owner signs an affidavit authorizing the police to enter the premises when the owner is absent and question, eject, and/or arrest all those whom they suspect of being up to no good.
The website of the Miami Gardens Police Department notes that the program is “designed to reduce the number of individuals who are sometimes seen trespassing and loitering on private property without legitimate business.”
The fact that Miami Gardens police kept arresting that one particular employee even after it was very clear that he worked at the store is baffling, and obviously indicates that more was going on here than simple overzealousness. But the alleged police misbehavior is rooted in the idea that cities can keep their streets safer by keeping poor black men off of them, and that it's up to an individual cop’s discretion to determine what sort of behavior is and is not appropriate.
The “Zero Tolerance Zone” initiative sounds similar to the controversial stop-and-frisk programs that have been deployed in New York and other cities, where police officers are encouraged to routinely stop and question people on slim grounds—“suspicious behavior” is a favorite excuse—in hopes of seizing guns and drugs and stopping crime before it starts. ... . Inevitably, the people being stopped and questioned are minority residents of crime-ridden areas—police have no incentive to deploy these tactics in rich white neighborhoods with minimal street crime. ...
This all comes down to the goddamn stupid, silly, racist “broken windows” theory of crime prevention that encourages police to treat the symptoms in hopes of curing the disease. ... As a long-term crime-prevention strategy, broken windows is intellectually bankrupt; as a short-term strategy, it is a recipe for civil rights abuses. If the allegations are true, the Miami Gardens story makes this all painfully clear.
I haven't actually been to Miami Gardens, so I have no idea what's going on at Mr. Saleh's 207 Quick Stop store, but I found this comment after the original Miami Herald article from somebody calling himself Abdur Rahman who uses a picture of Malcolm X as his commenting avatar:
"That store is a hangout for dope sellers and people who do not get up and go to work everyday. It is unsafe. A man was killed in the parking lot a just the other day. Most of us have kids and we tell our kids over and over to stay away from that store. If you want to be a thug or run a thug hangout, then don't get mad at the police."
Other suggestions have included that the cops are padding their arrest statistics, that the mayor must own the rival quickie mart next door, or that the owner got behind on his weekly payoff.
Something I've noticed about the modern media is that almost nobody actually believes in the "changing face of America" and all that. Sure, everybody talks about it, but nobody believes it's really happening. Instead, it is assumed, everywhere will always have a white majority.
Thus, of course a place called "Miami Gardens" is going to be majority white. Why would anyone doubt it? And even if you sort of wonder whether "Miami Gardens" really looks like Bedford Falls, well, how can you check?
Thus, of course a place called "Miami Gardens" is going to be majority white. Why would anyone doubt it? And even if you sort of wonder whether "Miami Gardens" really looks like Bedford Falls, well, how can you check?
I mean, what's a journalist supposed to do before writing an article about Miami Gardens, FL? Put on his fedora and take the street car down to the Carnegie Library to look up in a dusty Census book what the demographics of Miami Gardens, FL are? Who has time for that?
Oh, wait, sorry, you can now type "Miami Gardens demographics" into a search engine and it will take you right to the exact paragraph in the Wikipedia article on the 2010 Census.
It turns out that Miami Gardens is 2.6% non-Hispanic white, 22% Hispanic, and it's 76% black. The municipality, which was only incorporated in 2003, is the largest black majority city in Florida.
Let me give some general advice: if you come across a story about local government that seems kind of screwy, go look up the demographics.
Let me give some general advice: if you come across a story about local government that seems kind of screwy, go look up the demographics.
Here are pictures of the Miami Gardens leadership:
Mayor Oliver G. Gilbert |
Incoming City Manager Cameron Benson |
Matthew Boyd |
Paul Miller |
Tiffany Britton |
And here's a picture of storeowner Alex Saleh who is filing the civil rights lawsuit against Miami Gardens:
Alex Saleh, civil rights plaintiff |
The future of America is shaping up in Florida: it will be diverse, full of interest, and extremely confusing to journalists.
Perhaps what young Peters is trying to express is, Broken Windows is a g-d---n m----f--- c---s--king $@#%*!@# stupid theory--for majority-black neighborhoods
ReplyDeleteShouldn't Slate have illustrated the story with a photo of Richie Incognito
ReplyDeleteJustin Peters
ReplyDelete(You should read the entire Herald story; it will raise your blood pressure and ruin your weekend, but you should still read it.
No, all I have to do is read about what Philip Chism, who could have been Obama's son and looks like a young Obama, did to that Nice White Lady teacher in New England.
In case you wanted to see what Justin Peters looks like. He's the one with the glasses.
https://twitter.com/justintrevett/media
crystal mangum, the 2006 duke rape hoax accuser, was convicted of murder today for a 2011 stabbing and killing.
ReplyDeletelet's see if that gets national wall to wall television coverage.
Meanwhile, the racial profiling of victims in the knockout game goes on unimpeded.
ReplyDeleteIt must be nice, when you have been punched, to learn that your senses tricked you to believe an urban myth.
Moreover, the racial profiling extends further; only a selected few will be deemed victims and have their aggressors punished.
ReplyDelete"The future of America is shaping up in Florida: it will be diverse, full of interest, and extremely confusing to journalists."
We have journalists? No. We don't. We have ideologues, propagandists of the forced-Diversity, socialized, America that Oswald won - replete with our Dear Rulers forcing us to pay for them to have their NSA spy on us, the people.
"journalists"
ReplyDeleteMr Sailer,
I don't think there are too many "journalists" writing for the media outlets you mention. In any case, Mr Peters does not appear to be one of those few.
The Wikipedia page for Miami Gardens, FL makes interesting reading.
The discussion of affordable housing on the history tab of that wiki page reminds me of this exchange I had with a commenter on another blog on Saturday.
DeleteNo Steve. It WON'T be 'extremely confusing' for journalists.
ReplyDeleteOn the contrary, it will be manna from heaven and 'pigs rolling in sh*t' time for journalists, (well at least 99% of them working for the 'conventional' US press). A new orgiastic golden age beckons in which every 'journalist' cna make himself into a new tin-pot little Atticus Finch - together with glasses to prove it.
You see Steve, the entire narrative of American domestic 'journalism' since at least 1950 has been 'whitey hating on black' - don't you think that under the new settlement ie blacks and browns becoming dominant - that there will be countless more opportunities to push this narrative? Counter-intuitive I know, but think about it - more blacks and browns = more stories about blacks and browns (ie god forsaken victims), whites, in so much as the mean anything to 'journalists' will serve the role as devils and haters of the victims.
Simples.
I predict bankruptcy filings in the not too distant future for Miami Gardens. Where's my Nobel prize?
ReplyDeleteSounds like Back to Blood.
ReplyDeleteYou know, I think by the 61st arrest, much less the 62nd, it's not racial profiling anymore in the sense of being statistical. By then, it's gotta be kind of personal.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of this old sketch with Rowan Atkinson and Griff Rhys Jones.
Bill DeBlasio should retire to Miami Gardens.
ReplyDeleteThe millennial generation will break with the 'me' mentality of the baby boomers.
If those journalists had read Back to Blood, they wouldn't be so confused.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Trayvon from Miami Gardens? How can anybody not know about Miami Garden's demographics, or any city's demographics? Maybe I'm just race obsessed, but I just assumed everybody knows Miami Gardens is in the black quadrent of South Florida, north of the latinized Miami and Hialeah, and west of the still Jewish (but more and more latin Jewish) Aventura and Hallandale Beach.
ReplyDeleteYou know who was from Miami Gardens?
ReplyDeleteTrayvon. Nuff said.
It appears "stop and frisk" will have problems passing muster with journalists outside of New York City.
ReplyDeleteSuburban Florida is an ugly mosaic of local neighborhoods. You need to pick your neighborhood wisely. It's a model for America going forward.
Biography entitled “Barack Obama,” is written by Jane Sutcliffe and published by Lerner. The book is part of Scholastic’s “Reading Counts” and is making it's way into Illinois public schools.
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Trayvon Martin lived in Miami Gardens so I assumed it was a black area.
ReplyDeleteSome questions cry out to be asked:
ReplyDelete1. When the employee says "but I work here," why is he still arrested?
2. Presumably, many of the arresting cops already know the guy works there (because they have arrested him before). So why do they arrest him again?
3. Why does the employee continue to work there?
4. Why don't the newshounds ask these questions?
There has to be more to this story.
You don't have to be a majority to be an oppressor. There are secret conspiracies, promoting the ingroup to the disfavor of outsiders, spoils from post majority status.
ReplyDeleteExamples: Chinese in Milasia, Wasps in America, Japanese in Canada, counterrevolutionaries (wreckers) in the USSR, Jews in Germany.
Since everyone would be the same if things were fair, merely doing better than other groups, in business profits or staying out of jail or anything, is evidence of unfairness. Doing better in sports is of course natural ability and determination.
A 5-10 min drive from that store will bring you here:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/21012294742554/police-search-for-gunmen-in-deadly-nail-salon-shooting/
When I saw the name "Saleh" I guessed Middle-Eastern or Horn-of-Africa immigrant. The picture you post leads me to believe my guess is probably correct.
ReplyDeleteSo we have a non-Black convenience store owner and his customers being hassled by (most-likely) Black police who claim that his store is a focal point for neighborhood criminal activity within an essentially Black city. The store owner claims harrasment, perhaps to drive him out of competing with a city politician's nearby store.
The reporter's description of a store worker as "Black" becomes suspect. It's just as likely, if not more likely, that he's probably a non-Black relative of the (probably) non-Black owner.
We know from a large array of evidence that Black-run political units in this country have much higher rates of corruption than other communities. My personal observations suggest that generally-speaking minority politicians tend to be more corrupt than white. I have been a professional analayst of criminal jusrtice policy off and on for many years and it is well-known in the field that corruption among minority law enforcement officers is a pe3rvasive and serious problem in this country. No one dares to study this problem or even discuss it except in private and off-the-record so it's hard to know all the details or ramifications.
But putting all this together, this reporter could have done an insightful analysis of what's really going on here. It's impossible to tell from the lazy, unprofessional pastiche he slapped together. Whether this is due to fear of the consequences of seeing what must not be seen, forwarding a hiddeenm agenda, pure laziness and stupidity, or some combination of the three i8s hard to tell.
Excellent, Steve.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, the racial profiling of victims in the knockout game goes on unimpeded.
ReplyDeleteI dunno - now that the Scots-Irish are on the receiving end of it, the MSM seem much more interested in the phenomenon.
Broken Windows is a g-d---n m----f--- c---s--king $@#%*!@# stupid theory--for majority-black neighborhoods
ReplyDeleteThe community districts in New York City with the highest homicide rates are those for Bedford-Stuyvesant and Ocean Hill Brownsville. IIRC, the homicide rates for these two sections of Brooklyn has for a decade bounced around 22 per 100,000. These districts have a population of 238,000 in a city which has a population of 8 million in a metropolis with a population of 18 million. The city-wide homicide rates in Rochester and Buffalo are 19 per 100,000 and 20 per 100,000, respectively. Roughly 30% of the metropolitan population of these two loci lives in the central city.
Mr. Bratton's methods seem to work well in slum neighborhoods.
During the '90s, I lived ten miles east of Miami Gardens, on the beach. Back then Miami Gardens was not its own city but was just part of unincorporated Miami-Dade County, on the Broward County border. It's always been vast majority black, but the news reports seem to indicate that Miami Gardens has gotten worse since back then. The city has been badly managed and, like one other post noted, will probably declare bankruptcy at some time in the not-too-distant future.
ReplyDeleteThe Miami Dolphins play in Miami Gardens.
Ha ha. The last capta term was educant. Might fit for a large number of Miami Gardens residents.
ReplyDeletePoor Vox used this as a example of "Krazy Kops Gone Wild!"
ReplyDeleteBased on the facts you found using a simple Google search it is more like "Decent Cops Desperately Trying to Stop the Black Undertow".
Strange that Vox would sympathize with Tom Kratman's real politik firm hand approach to chaotic Third World countries, yet turn bleeding heart liberal when it comes to Miami Gardens.
When I lived in a ghetto area in Milwaukee and the police were forced to start recording the race of everyone they talked to, several of us white guys made it clear to the local precinct officers that we would welcome being stopped for questioning at any time if it would help boost their (white) racial statistics and thereby keep the liberals off their backs.
We put "I support the local police"-type stickers in our car windows and on our front house windows to show our willingness.
When you live in a NAM-nightmare neighborhood, you do what you have to do. Vox just doesn't get it. One cannot always move to a nice, safe, white neighborhood (or country, like Vox did, God bless him).
Today I have three thoughts as I read about 'racial knockouts'.
ReplyDeleteFirst is the "Irish Interval'. In 1965 Patrick Moynihan wrote 'The Negro Family' pointing out the problems with - of all things - the negro family. The popular press chose to ignore the warnings of this Irish academic for a while. Then this year - 53 years later - the Irish media star Bill O'Reilly - began to mention the problems with the black family on his news show.
The Irish Interval is therefore 53 years. Jefferson expected the Senate to be the 'saucer in which political passions were cooled'. That changed this week. Apparently Harry Reid noticed the Irish Interval and decided that passions were already cool enough.
Secondly the Founding Fathers all knew a lot about Roman History. They didn't focus on the Fall of the Roman Empire, they were more concerned with the Fall of the Roman Republic.
Rome went on for centuries after Caesar destroyed the Republic but Romans were under an absolutist government thereafter. Murray (another Irish academic) also thinks that was an important event.
That's why we might look for events in Roman History that presaged that fall. As it happens the Milo-Clodius street riots look a lot like the recent 'flash mobs' and 'knockout games'.
Most commenters are wrong. These two types of events are quite easy to stop. It's just that you have to stamp down hard on civil rights to do so. There were no such problems in Stalinist Russia.
Or thirdly we could rescind the restrictions on concealed carry weapons. There was a news story this week about a 'knockout game' victim who had a concealed carry license. He shot the would be knockouter twice. That should work too.
Albertosaurus
You have laid out the two main solutions to this: concealed carry or cops. Maybe the jujitsu move for conservatives would be to ally with NAM civil rights advocates if necessary to get concealed carry rights expanded in return for clamping down on stop & frisk.
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Oops math error.
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ReplyDeleteIt must be nice, when you have been punched, to learn that your senses tricked you to believe an urban myth.
Moreover, the racial profiling extends further; only a selected few will be deemed victims and have their aggressors punished."
Well naturally, if a black thug beats up a Jew while playing the Knockout Game, that is anti-semitism and therefore deplorable. Whereas, if an urban youth allegedly gets into an altercation while playing the (so-called) "Knockout Game", that is, well,............hey, why is the perps race important anyway? What are you? Some kind of racist?
Which reminds me of the brouhaha about black students being disproportionately disciplined: an awful lot of these disciplinary measures are being handed down by black teachers and administrators, who for some odd reason don't want to put up with BS from unruly students.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first read the article, I had assumed that the police officers in question were some of those "white hispanics" I had heard about, but apparently not. Apparently, they were "white african americans".
ReplyDeletehttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/11/20/obamas_slow_learning_curve_120723.html
ReplyDeleteDoes Mr. Saleh have health insurance for his employees? I wonder what the percentage of people in Miami Gardens who don't have Medicare or other government insurance is and if they will buy health insurance through the exchanges?
ReplyDeleteEven signing people up for the expanded Medicaid requires hiring "navigators" (who will also add them to the voting rolls).
This is a real conundrum, that the same people who are OK with the huge dysfunction, so OK with it that they think its cruel to expect parents to send their children to school with a sandwich, think people are going to do something as complicated as buy health insurance.
Or they don't think that and in view of what a mess American society is, single payer is inevitable.
Speaking of "civil rights":
ReplyDelete"Mark Zuckerberg: Immigration Reform One of the 'Biggest Civil Rights Issues of Our Time'"
http://news.yahoo.com/mark-zuckerberg-immigration-reform-one-biggest-civil-rights-144342019--abc-news-topstories.html
Reservation police.
ReplyDelete"This all comes down to the goddamn stupid, silly, racist “broken windows” theory of crime prevention"
ReplyDeleteHey, if a journalist says so, it must be true.
In the real world, the broken windows theory was first instituted by Bill Bratton in NYC during Giuliani I. It drove down the crime rate immensely. Unfortunately Rudy's ego couldn't stand to be eclipsed by Bratton's achievements so out Bratton went. But his successors persisted with broken windows and this resulted in the historic lows in crime seen today.
I've heard that DeBlasio is considering bringing back Bratton. If this happens, we'll continue stop and frisk, just more discreetly.
Al Sharpton has been all over the media lately, screaming about 'shopping while black.' Meanwhile not a word about the anti-Jewish knockouts in Brooklyn.
http://variety.com/2013/film/box-office/catching-fire-burning-up-the-box-office-with-nearly-150-million-1200873886/
ReplyDeletePeople just can't get enough of bubblegum fascism or pop fascism, though it's presented as anti-fascist fascism, i.e. a work that luxuriates in fascist spectacle, warrior virtues, and grandiosity while, at the same time, going naughty naughty at 'evil fascism'.
Though some may trace this back to STAR WARS, maybe its real progenitor was TEN COMMANDMENTS where, even though the Egyptians were bad guys, they were magnificent bad guys.
Fascism, even in the form of anti-fascist fascism, won the aesthetic war. Hollywood tries to tame or critique it but cannot help wallowing in it because it has such great appeal at the box office.
Even GRAVITY is like one of those Leni Riefenstahl mountain climbing movies where a lone woman uses all her mythic might to overcome the greatest of odds. In fact, it's like BLUE LIGHT in reverse: climbing down to the Earth.
BATMAN, TRON LEGACY, HUNGER GAMES, SNOW WHITE AND THE HUNTSMAN, THOR...
THOR was fun. First 30 min, I thought... what head-bashing nonsense and was almost tempted to turn it off. In contrast, in the first few minutes of SNOW WHITE, I couldn't help thinking 'whoever made this is a master'.
Branagh(who did Thor) was never much of a director, especially of action and spectacle; consider the dreadful FRANKENSTEIN.
But when the movie goes into comic mode with Thor swaggering around in the human realm, it is LOL and lots of fun. This is what's missing in BATMAN movies that take themselves SO SERIOUSLY. I mean it's comic book material for Chrissakes. But THOR got the tone just right. It had fun with the material and wasn't any more serious than it needed to be. And I loved the two actresses, Portman the antheaded beauty and the other one who is a born comedienne.
But TWILIGHT beats all.
This is another indication that municipalities which comprehend small fragments of a larger urban settlement should busy themselves with mundane local services and building inspections. The variation in the utility of the police force over the tapestry of the urban settlement renders county or metropolitan authorities the optimal locus for the police force.
ReplyDeleteMiami Gardens is where middle-class blacks fled from Liberty City in the 1970s. The city has Sun Life Stadium and Calder racetrack but also a lot of Section 8 housing. They are trying to attract commercial development so they appear to be cracking down on street hoodlums with some form of "stop and frisk." One problem, they don't have Mayor Bloomberg's megaphone.
ReplyDeleteMedia upset that the Miami Gardens PD is treating the "root causes" of crime.
ReplyDeleteIsn't that what the media usually want us to do? Treat the "root causes" of crime?
I know I'm asking a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer. The media are upset when law enforcement goes after the root causes of crime. What the media want is to go after the root causes of crime by spending more public money on this or that.
" These two types of events are quite easy to stop. It's just that you have to stamp down hard on civil rights to do so. There were no such problems in Stalinist Russia."
ReplyDeleteI know someone who lived in Franco's Spain. He went to the beach late at might with his friends when he was a teenager. A cop saw them and went over to them and took down their names and addresses just in case something happened he would know where to go.
If there was domestic violence, the cops would just pay a visit and have a talk with the guy, no need for courts.
My friend was kind of nostalgic for those days.
It would be interesting to see what Franco would do with this country.
I doubt he would allow all this immigration.
He probably would have been against integration.
We have to have city-states to replace what we have now.
Each city-state will control who gets in and can live there. This means complete discrimination if desired. There could be very restrictive laws against drugs, drinking, gambling etc. Or you could have a Vegas style city-state where everything goes.
I read Mayor Gilbert's bio at the city website. He grew up in the area so his parents likely moved there to get away from Miami. He is a Florida A&M graduate and Miami Law School so his future is Florida black politics. I'm sure he's seen Miami Gardens go to seed during his lifetime and would like to clean the place up. Good luck Mayor!
ReplyDeleteTrayvon was from Miami Garbage, Florida?
ReplyDeleteThis means that college woman, the one that can't read cursive, someone who will have Tom Joyner as her sugar daddy for the rest of his life, is also from there.
Poor Vox used this as a example of "Krazy Kops Gone Wild!"
ReplyDeleteCan you give us the link?
Certainly there exists in America a majority black city with low crime rate and high scoring schools. It would make a good model for Miami Gardens. Somewhere it surely exists. Somewhere? Anywhere? Bueller? Bueller?
ReplyDeleteOT: Library Acquires Tom Wolfe’s Papers for $2.15 Million
ReplyDeleteMy biggest fear, as a middle-aged GenX-er, is ending up in a nursing home managed and staffed by NAMs. I'd prefer euthanasia to the water-boarding, soup-scalding, rough handling and other forms of payback dished out in such places.
ReplyDeleteWhat I like is how the article infers that the whole thing is due to "white racism", when there isn't a single white person anywhere in the whole matter. Kind of like how the media kept calling the brown skinned George Zimmerman "white".
ReplyDeleteGot to find some way to blame it on whitey, I guess.
Poor Vox used this as a example of "Krazy Kops Gone Wild!"
ReplyDeleteVox did nothing of the sort. I was echoing Steve's point about the challenge the media faces in trying to find a way to blame whites for the way blacks are treating Arabs.
The original Herald article puts forth a rational theory for why they kept arresting the same innocent guy (who was of their own race):
ReplyDeleteSaleh theorizes that it’s an easy way for the department to make it seem like they are making a large number of arrests.
“They have specialized units to combat crime and they need to bring in the numbers to justify those units,’’ Saleh said.
So this is like the Atlanta teachers cheating scandal - brothers and sisters taking a few shortcuts to meet their superior's expectations (probably with superiors who are in on the game - there must be some nice state or federal grant money involved). Or the "Twelve Years a Slave" guy being double crossed at his own "skin game". But it's so much more fun if you blame white "racism" instead.
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ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised if some of the cops involved were white rednecks."
Right. Because after all, the narrative must have a white bogeyman to blame, even at this late date of 2013. It would seem as if this narrative is getting rather stale after being used for decades on end.
And as previous poster Pat observed, former Senator Moynihan's '65 report catalogued many of these same social ills that were then as now besetting black America at large.
Phewee, look at all those racist white cops and white racist power structure in Miami Gardens.
ReplyDelete"Miami Gardens is where middle-class blacks fled from Liberty City in the 1970s."
ReplyDeleteLiberty City was the reasonably well-kempt black neighborhood in Miami up until integration. Admittedly the black leaders had problems with ghetto trash, but it wasn't a massive problem. They had homecoming parades, clean streets, doctors, lawyers, insurance guys and accountants.
But then the black middle class abandoned Liberty City for Miami Gardens and Liberty City became a cesspit.
Then Cousin Pookie and Ray-Ray followed them to Miami Gardens and repeated the pattern. I expect the black middle class is already moving on to another white community and the pattern will repeat itself again, endlessly.
Kudos to the black cops and black government digging in their heels, even if it is a losing battle. I wish, for once, the black middle class would make it an intra black class war and start screaming about the need to crack down on ignorant, violent black trash, but I expect they won't. If they would openly and admittedly "profile" young blacks and shout to high heaven about whites meddling in black affairs when the honkeys start agitating against black-on-black discrimination, we might start to see some change. But I'm not holding my breath.
I don't think it will be confusing for journalists. Just look at the anti-rape posters in South Africa and you can see the future of America:
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Technically what Bratton implemented was not Broken Windows but something less subtle. Yes, NYPD ground strength was increased to start arresting more turnstile jumpers and roust the squeegee men. But the key to their success was building dossiers on repeat criminals, which dovetailed with NY State's harsher sentencing (beginning before Giuliani), and going the next step to flow charts and undercover surveillance units; one discovery of the Great Relearning was that criminals tend to associate with other crooks. Thus Bratton was their first moneyball commish and modern Manhattan is, in a sense, the city profiling built.
ReplyDeleteWhich reminds me of the brouhaha about black students being disproportionately disciplined: an awful lot of these disciplinary measures are being handed down by black teachers and administrators, who for some odd reason don't want to put up with BS from unruly students.
ReplyDeleteLet's pick another minority, one who is actually disproportionately disciplined in government schools: High-IQ students.
Hey, Lennie Briscoe, I just saw you on Perry Mason!
ReplyDeleteMy biggest fear, as a middle-aged GenX-er, is ending up in a nursing home managed and staffed by NAMs. I'd prefer euthanasia to the water-boarding, soup-scalding, rough handling and other forms of payback dished out in such places.
ReplyDeleteThe only nursing homes I want are fully automated ones. If that means having to live in Japan, then so be it.
Mind you, a fully-NAM nursing home would be a good experience not for GenX, but for the arrogant fat-cat elder generations responsible for this madness.
"Technically what Bratton implemented was not Broken Windows but something less subtle."
ReplyDeleteWhatevs....
Bratton, Wilson & Broken Windows:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/nyregion/james-q-wilson-dies-at-80-originated-broken-windows-policing-strategy.html
"Probably his most influential theory holds that when the police emphasize the maintenance of order rather than the piecemeal pursuit of rapists, murderers and carjackers, concentrating on less threatening though often illegal disturbances in the fabric of urban life like street-corner drug-dealing, graffiti and subway turnstile-jumping, the rate of more serious crime goes down. "
My biggest fear, as a middle-aged GenX-er, is ending up in a nursing home managed and staffed by NAMs.
ReplyDeleteBuy long term care insurance and look into a nursing home with a good institutional culture (which, in most parts of the country, will have a great many blacks on the staff, because that's who does that sort of work). A little problem solving ability, please.
One gets the impression that half the people who post here are sock puppets of Paul Kersey.
What a hard face Alex Saleh has got!
ReplyDeleteI know I shouldn't write in these terms, but I wouldn't trust a man who looked like him one inch.
>> Each city-state will control who gets in and can live there. This means complete discrimination if desired. There could be very restrictive laws against drugs, drinking, gambling etc
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We're starting to get some blue-collar white Americans living here, they work on the Natural Gas rigs a few klicks offshore. Bunch of them in Ashdod port. Probably have their own hangouts.
As the filipina elder-care ladies have discovered, the seculars who are the silent majority of this country are quite tolerant of non-Jews who don't cause trouble. Getting Permanant Residency is not very difficult after 2 years of supporting yourself & staying out of trouble. With PR on your Teudat Zehut, you can apply for membership to a Community Settlement.
PR's ==will== get conscripted into the Home Guard and patrol their own neighborhood with a rifle a few weekends/year. A convenient way way to meet soldier girls, by the way. Just bring some homebaked sweets to a graveyard shift, you will be popular and get introduced to guys' sisters. This is a family-oriented society. Very different from American Jewry. "Who you know" is important here.
150 words of street Hebrew isn't really harder than picking up basic Spanish.
This country has such a actual bad problem with Africans illegals, whites who behave themselves will not be hassled.
The Miami Herald article said that a number of officers in Miami Gardens are white or Hispanic. I think a number of controversial police incidents in Miami involved Hispanic officers (Cuban, Colombian etc.) and black suspects. Race relations in South Florida are fairly complicated. There are whites or "Anglos" (most often Italian or Jewish transplants from the Northeast), Cubans, other Hispanics, African-Americans, Caribbean blacks (mostly Haitians), etc.
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ReplyDeleteDo tell (re whites in Ashdod).
@ArtDeco,
"Buy long term care insurance and look into a nursing home with a good institutional culture (which, in most parts of the country, will have a great many blacks on the staff, because that's who does that sort of work)."
Your old blog indicates that you live upstate. Then you should know that upstate most of the staff in an LT care facility will be working class rural whites. I know this from personal experience - a close family member spent her final years in a lovely facility upstate run by Adventists.
Nowadays the support staff will likely have many Hispanics.
Places with no Hispanics, but have a black/white mix, are usually dead, economically. Look up Braddock, PA.
I do agree with you about the lack of problem-solving ability among a lot of Steve readers. Our problems really can be solved, but we have such crap leadership I despair.
Then you should know that upstate most of the staff in an LT care facility will be working class rural whites. I know this personal experience - a close family member spent her final years in a lovely facility upstate run by Adventists.
ReplyDeleteNo. Half the Upstate population lives in cities. Service personnel in nursing homes therein are disproportionately black, as is the custodial staff of acute care hospitals. I have had relatives in St. John's Home in Rochester. The staff is many hued, but disproportionately black. They know how to screen their hires and nurture them properly to produce the best environment they can manage given the difficult clientele they have. Every different component of the staff contributes to making that institution what it is.
Taking care of the elderly requires a certain disposition and a certain sort of people skills. You find the people who can do it well where you can find them, and you do not worry if they are "NAM"s or not.
here in nyc arab store owners sell all the drug paraphenalia crack pipes and fresh tobaco leaves to roll blunts cigars bath salts etc
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Drug paraphernalia ... at a convenience store?
ReplyDeleteMan, that New York City is one wild place!