From the Orlando Sentinel:
Bright Futures scholarships are subject of federal investigation
Denise-Marie Ordway, Sentinel School Zone
12:18 pm, March 24, 2014
Florida's popular Bright Futures scholarship program is the subject of an investigation by the U.S. Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights, an agency spokesman confirmed Monday.
The federal government is looking into whether the program's eligibility requirements discriminate against some minority students.
The program has helped hundreds of thousands of students pay for college since its creation in 1997. But some groups have criticized its reliance on scores from college-entrance exams to determine who gets an award.
That criteria, according to groups such as the National Center for Fair & Open Testing, hurts many black and Hispanic kids, who don't tend to do as well on standardized achievement tests.
The U.S. Department of Education issued the following statement:
"The Office for Civil Rights is investigating allegations that the state of Florida utilizes criteria for determining eligibility for college scholarships that have the effect of discriminating against Latino and African-American students on the basis of national origin and race, in particular with regard to its Bright Futures Scholarship Program, which uses SAT- I and ACT cut-off scores to determine eligibility."
MCVIII == 1108 ???
ReplyDeleteBan practices with disparate impact: ban any admissions criteria that's more likely to result in a congressman's kid getting admitted than anyone else's kid.
ReplyDeleteFlorida needs to rename itself Lake Wobegon, that way all its children will be above average and they can all go to college.
ReplyDeleteOr they can institute universal Pre-School since going to school and teaching kids early how to color and take naps turns them into college scholars.
Is there disparate impact in the selection of the Noble prizes for Medicine, Chemistry, and Physics but not Literature and Peace?
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The Duke BB team that got bounced doesn't look to have a disparate impact problem now.
Makes you wonder why they haven't tried getting rid of the SAT and ACT all together. Admittance to CALTECH could be decided on the basis of a national lottery....
ReplyDeleteIs the Obama Administration possibly gearing up to go after the National Merit Scholarship Program?
ReplyDeleteWhat salient difference is there between the program in Florida and the National Merit Scholarship Program?
If they do, I predict Hell to pay.
candid_observer said...
ReplyDelete"Is the Obama Administration possibly gearing up to go after the National Merit Scholarship Program?"
I think the National Merit Scholarship program has a separate program for NAMs so that thy can get recognized for high scores.
I had an interesting Christmas with a branch of my family. They are quite rich, with my uncle being a (reformed) hardcore Righty and my aunt and 3 female cousins being all hardcore leftists (of course) despite none of them ever having had a real job (of course again.)
ReplyDeleteLong story short, I explained the inevitability of a racial quota system in the US, using the Chinese and Indians in Malaysia vs. the 70% native Malays there (the opposite of how it works in white countries.) I pointed out how here in Texas in 25 years it will be 25% white, 60% Hispanic, with the rest mostly black with some Asians in cities. I told them to think about how hard it will be for their kids and grandkids to get into the top schools. Then I told them to never forget that they supported this future, and I will never stop reminding the future family of that.
I think I might have finally gotten through to them. Guess I'll see at Easter.
I wouldn't count on getting invited back.
DeleteBlack ghetto kids with 80 IQs who spend the day listening to rap and playing basketball score lower on standardized college admission tests than whites and Asian middle class kids who studied hard to earn good grades? The test must racially discriminate against blacks. Can't think of anything else it could possibly be.
ReplyDelete"I think the National Merit Scholarship program has a separate program for NAMs so that thy can get recognized for high scores."
ReplyDeleteIt's not at all obvious that that program will insulate the National Merit Scholarships from the disparate impact charge.
Mao supposedly said that power flows through the barrel of a gun. Well he never encountered the US main stream media. I am amazed at how control of the message puts all the wildcards into the hands of one side. Any argument the left engages in, any policy debate they have, they always have their trump card in the form of the 'Racism' charge or in these 'disparate impact' claims. Is there anything that cannot be classified as 'disparate impact'? Just like the left will conduct a vote over and over again until it gets the results it wants, it will use disparate impact to attack any firm, institution, club, etc. that doesn't give it the results it wants.
ReplyDeleteThat criteria, according to groups such as the National Center for Fair & Open Testing, hurts many black and Hispanic kids, who don't tend to do as well on standardized achievement tests.
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me--let's bring in tens of millions of people who "don't tend to do as well on standardized achievement tests" and are always described as "struggling." After all, why not?
That criteria [sic!!!!!!], according to groups such as the National Center for Fair & Open Testing, hurts many black and Hispanic kids, who don't tend to do as well on standardized achievement tests.
ReplyDeleteThis is atrocious writing. Even if you accept the author's evil premises, it doesn't hurt "many" Black and Hispanic kids; it hurts Black and Hispanic kids in general.
Of course, there are a shitload of White kids who don't tend to do well on standardized tests. In this sense, it hurts many Black and Hispanic kids, and it hurts many White kids, so what is the author's point? He hasn't identified a problem, even on his own terms.
"The Office for Civil Rights is investigating allegations that the state of Florida utilizes criteria for determining eligibility for college scholarships that have the effect of discriminating against Latino and African-American students on the basis of national origin and race, in particular with regard to its Bright Futures Scholarship Program, which uses SAT- I and ACT cut-off scores to determine eligibility."
ReplyDeleteCheck it out -- the moronic author and her editor don't even read their own article. The author says "criteria" is singular; then she quotes someone who uses it properly as a plural, yet they don't tag it with a "sic" -- they don't even notice that the author and her source can't both be right.
Is there anything that cannot be classified as 'disparate impact'?
ReplyDeleteNo, there isn't, and any instance of disparate impact necessarily works two ways. If tests hurt Blacks, then changing or eliminating the tests hurts non-Blacks. "Disparate impact" jurisprudence is ALWAYS a matter of the courts saying that Whites are legally inferior to non-Whites.
It's interesting that you can't say "blacks and Hispanics on average have lower IQs than whites and Asians," but you can say black and Hispanic kids "don't tend to do as well on standardized achievement tests."
ReplyDeleteI think that phraseology has the requisite number of weasel words in it to pass muster with the NY Times editorial staff. For example, "don't tend to" rather than "don't", and "don't tend to do as well" rather than "score consistently lower", and "standardized achievement tests" rather than "every form of intelligence test ever tried." (NY Times readers have been primed to understand that there's something fundamentally flawed about standardized achievement tests as they fail to measure black and Hispanic intelligence.)
Mao was correct. The MSM has power for now because the shooting has not started. Rest assured it will eventually, that's human nature, and when it starts the power will flow from the gun barrels.
ReplyDeleteThe Media after all had little effect on how the Civil War turned out -- that was won and lost on the battlefield.
The reason for the Media's power is that they speak to a deep, Christian longing for a universalist brotherhood of man where all are equal under god and law and man. That's a flaw of High IQ peoples from the beginning, and a function of high social mobility killing the sort of "Little England" stuff that Larkin loved so much and just flows from Tolkein and CS Lewis.
Nevertheless, you can see the outlines. The West Coast as property of the Chinese backed by a great nuclear power. Mexicans losers because they don't have 1.1 billion co-ethnics armed with nukes at their side. The Southern Central Plains maybe being El Norte, with the Mountain West and the rest being mostly White. Losers? Blacks who lack the ability to fight like say, Ratko Mladic or Wallenstein.
Never forget, martial virtue always always ALWAYS counts. Always.
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2014/03/28/young-adults-democratic-party-gallup-poll/?csp=fbfanpage
ReplyDeleteGriggs v. Duke Power (1971), the Supreme Court case that enshrined "Disparate Impact" as a basis for finding racial discrimination is one of the most dangerous pieces of legal fecal matter that has ever been spewed out of the jurisprudential cloaca. It just created a fancy legalistical way of imposing quotas. The next step in the process was to get rid of the term "quota" and replace it with "diversity". Quotas and "affirmative action" imply redress for past discrimination; diversity can go on forever. So here we are. The Constitution is being distorted into a suicide machine for a once thriving republic.
ReplyDelete"Is there anything that cannot be classified as 'disparate impact'? " - likewise, literally everything human beings do is based on pattern recognition and discrimination.
ReplyDelete"ben tillman said...
ReplyDelete""The Office for Civil Rights is investigating allegations that the state of Florida utilizes criteria for determining eligibility for college scholarships that have the effect of discriminating against Latino and African-American students on the basis of national origin and race, in particular with regard to its Bright Futures Scholarship Program, which uses SAT- I and ACT cut-off scores to determine eligibility.""
Check it out -- the moronic author and her editor don't even read their own article. The author says "criteria" is singular; then she quotes someone who uses it properly as a plural, yet they don't tag it with a "sic" -- they don't even notice that the author and her source can't both be right."
They also used the word "utilize" when "use" would have been fine - not just fine, but better.
I have noticed that a lot of journalistic writing has become scandalously bad, and even just plain ungrammatical. My local TV-station has reporters who don't know which preposition to use - they say "police are investigating a robbery to a gas-station" instead of "police are investigating a robbery of a gas-station".
For real discrimination check out the Bill and Melinda Gates Millennial Scholars program. This issues college scholarships only to non-whites. It is a racist disgrace! It is a billion dollar program.
ReplyDeleteHow about a whites only scholarship. Is it legal to set one up these days? Because it is easy set up a no-whites scholarship program. No one even complains about the above program.
More> http://www.amren.com/news/2013/06/the-gates-millennium-scholars-program/
If they do, I predict Hell to pay.
ReplyDeleteNope. Interest among elites in dismantling these inane patronage programs dissipated 25 years ago. It was last seen around about 1989 when the Reagan Administration departed office. Challenges to these programs are invariably from rogue elements who organize referenda in parts of the country where some public policies are still decided by such methods. Then the judiciary invalidates the results of the referenda if the state university administration cannot successfully ignore them.
One thing that has been made plain in recent years is that democratic institutions are a complete pantomime in this country. What could restore them?
The FL Bright Futures scholarship program (funded by lottery sales) grants scholarships on high school GPA and class rank, as well as SAT scores. It was designed this way so NAM students going to predominantly NAM high schools (i.e. not competing against White students) would also win Bright Futures scholarships.
ReplyDeleteThe GPA factor led many parents to push their kids into AP classes which award higher GPA points; so students were graduating w/ 5.0 GPAs. NAMs don't take AP classes, but a 100 IQ NAM attending a NAM high school would likely be the class valedictorian, and would win a scholarship based on class rank. At a competitive high school the 100 IQ NAM would maybe make it to the 50th percentile and would not win a scholarship.
At most FL universities, more than half of the students are on Bright Futures scholarships paying 50% to over 100% tuition plus stipends. The legislature has tried to cut it back a little bit over the recent past.
Because intelligent white Floridians are cowed into believing they are 2nd and 3rd class citizens in relation to the state's blacks and Hispanics and because Florida does not have a critical mass of high achieving Asian 'tiger moms' to uphold scholastic standards, Florida will continue its economic slide as locals with get-up-and-go, leave.
ReplyDeleteMy impression of Miami while there was of a lack of inquisitiveness and energy and an unconcern for the future, sort of like a Havana Norte or new east New Orleans. The locals are quite comfortable having a fragile, poorly paid economy based on oranges, tourism and elderly care.