Last week, I wondered which Asian power is most likely to succeed the U.S. as the world's leading power in the distant future. A think tank started by an interested observer, the government of Israel, has been wondering the same thing, too. The Jewish People Policy Planning Institute writes in 2030: Alternative Futures for the Jewish People:
“The rise of Asian states, particularly China and India, may be very significant from a Jewish perspective since Asian countries do not share the Biblical religions and traditions, and therefore, have a radically different view of Judaism and the Jewish People than Christian and Islamic countries. Also, they do not have significant Jewish communities. This provides unprecedented opportunities for a Jewish global grand-strategy, as proposed in a JPPPI paper on upgrading relations between the Jewish People and China.”
The JPPPI's priorities among Asian states are:
The first initiative focuses on China ... The next initiative will focus on India, and Japan will be considered at a later date.
So, that sounds like a pretty good way to bet: 1. China 2. India 3. Japan.
Since South Korea is a US client state, I guess that leaves North Korea as the last great hope of the gentiles. LOL.
ReplyDeleteShortly after 1945 the Japanese decided the only suckers want to be world powers. A child born in Japan will likely have a much better life ahead of him than a child born in China or India, particularly as the population declines and the island becomes less crowded.
ReplyDeleteSo the immigration boosters are saying that the nation that has been, by far, the world's #1 immigration destination will in the near future be losing its position as the world's leading power to one of three countries, all of which have been and continue to be low-immigration?
ReplyDeleteThe Japanese are currently in the process of building lots of extremely advanced robots, for use in everything from house cleaning to manufacturing to search and rescue. Who knows? Maybe robots are the wave of the future and the Japanese will soon reap major dividends, especially in terms of productivity improvement, from investing so much in robotics.
ReplyDeleteChina is a pretty good bet, since it's already a very large economy and will likely continue to get even bigger. Even assuming the country finally maxes out at relatively low per capita GDP, in total terms that's a lot. In addition to becoming a commerical colossal, China will also continue to expand its military power.
India has more barriers to growth, such as a highly volatile electoral system. However, I think that it's also capable of falling a China-style trajectory for the next few decades. Though I don't think India will be able to tolerate the wrenching inequality that the Chinese have, which will require more government controls and welfare. This might work as a disadvantage for India.
@Chris,
ReplyDeleteIndia suffers from 20 million illegal alien bangladeshi muslims whom the congress and commies imported for a vote bank
These illegals have taken over forests and rhino habitats and created a Eurabia type mess
The US only has benign catholic mexicans crossing the border, not muslim bangladeshis
One way Israel is already "upgrading" relations with China: selling them some of its vast gift-heap of secret US military technology.
ReplyDeleteLet the Reconquista of America begin!
ReplyDeletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_1834-1836-03.png
"Illegal immigration into the southwest states is sometimes viewed as a form of reconquista, in light of the fact that Texas statehood was preceded by an influx of illegal U.S. settlers into that Mexican province until United States citizens outnumbered Mexicans 10-1 and were able to take over governance of the area."
“The rise of Asian states, particularly China and India, may be very significant from a Jewish perspective since Asian countries do not share the Biblical religions and traditions, and therefore, have a radically different view of Judaism and the Jewish People than Christian and Islamic countries."
ReplyDeleteIt will be very interesting to see what they come up with.
Kin altruism and reciprocal altruism are the two primary organizing principles in evolution. They correspond roughly to the principles of Western religions (Christianity, communism, modern day PC, etc.) that were devised for the host populations and Judaism, respectively.
The kin altruism religion (Christianity, communism, modern day PC, etc.) promoted to the host is universalized or extended to include those outside of one's tribe so that everyone is supposed to be treated as one's kin (including the one exceptional tribe that maintains reciprocal altruism). The reciprocal altruism religion (Judaism) maintains its tribal basis and interacts with other tribes on a reciprocal basis (i.e. tit for tat).
The symbols and myths will be different, but the same thing will be devised and promoted: universalized kin altruism.
I suppose Jews should be flattered that you think we get to decide who's the next hegemonic power...
ReplyDeleteIndia over Japan? Hey Steve, ever hear of this thing called HBD?
ReplyDeleteHopefully these Eastern powers will side with the Muslim world, who can give them oil and a market of a billion people,over an alliance with Israel which would provide nothing.
@Harmonius Jim,
ReplyDeleteThe US vetoed most Israel hi-tech arms sales to China, but allows them to India
Israel has toppled Russia as the main source of Indian arms imports
The Indian-Israel arms linkages goes deep
Israeli military satellites launched on Indian rockets,
Israeli consultants in all sorts of Indian arms industries
At a very fundamental anti-islam level, India and Israel are tied together in defense matters
The previous anti-muslim BJP regime was very open about this, whereas the current congress regime which depends on muslim votes, still continues BJP policies wrt Israel, but is very hush-hush
One strategy for JPPPI is to get more Jewish women to intermarry asian men. The kids will technically be Jewish, right?
ReplyDeleteJapan seems like a particularly bad bet to me, since they're about as mature as they can get and aren't going to displace the anglosphere.
ReplyDeleteKorea has potential if they manage reunification amazingly well.
For future world superpower, I'd bet:
USA first, EU second, China third, India fourth, Russia fifth, Israel sixth, unified Korea seventh.
Hopefully Anonymous
http://www.hopeanon.typepad.com
In the longterm.....
ReplyDeleteThe Chinese have a large and quickly growing Muslim population, especially in the restive eastern provices. They also have a need to access foreign markets, resources, and oil in Africa and the Middle East. As China starts to establish itself as a global power and counterweight to the U.S., it'd make sense to not be pro-Israel. It'd be more advantageous to make nice with the Arabs and Muslims, which is not good for the Jews.
The Japanese are business minded, but they don't have much of a desire to interfere in events going on halfway around the world, especially these days. They haven't done much on the world stage since the end of WWII and I don't expect them to change much in the future. As the population continues to age, the population may even become more pacifistic. I don't see the Japanese ever caring too much, one way or the other, about Israel and its neighbors. This is neutral for the Jews.
India's right wing might be pro-Israeli because they dislike Islamic terrorism, but there's a strong center-left array of parties (Congress, backward caste parties, regional parties, socialists, Marxists), mostly comprising low caste Hindus and Muslims, that keep out the pro-Israel BJP. The center leftists are more balanced with respect to Israel and its enemies. Also, if India was really pro-Israel, it'd antagonize the large and growing Muslim population. I don't think too many parties would want to align India too closely with Israel. However, I do think there is a long term trend for Israel and India to get somewhat closer. So the rise of India is mildly good for the Jews.
Israel's best friend and biggest backer is America. If American power and prestige decline, or Americans get tired of defending Israel, that's really bad news for the Jewish population. A long term American decline puts Israel and Jewish-Americans in a much worse position, no question. Bad for the Jews.
Israelis also need to consider that Europe, and also the US (to a lesser extent), have large and quickly growing Muslim immigrant populations. This is going to have a major impact on domestic politics, especially in the EU. Part of the reason that the Europeans opposed the Iraq War was to placate, and get votes from, Muslim voters. In Europe, the Muslim vote is like the Hispanic vote is here.
Life will also become more unpleasant for Jewish overseas communities in the future, given continuing immigration trends that feature lots of Muslims heading West.
Remember those fire bombings of synagogues in France? Who did those? Muslim immigrant youth.
How about the recent stoning of German-Jewish kids celebrating a religious festival? Who did that? Arab immigrants in Germany.
Whose ethnic harassment is driving Jews out of Malmo, Sweden? Again, Muslim immigrants.
Who shot up the Jewish Center in Seattle? Pakistani Muslim immigrant.
Muslim immigration West is very, very bad for the Jews.
I think the long term prognosis doesn't look particularly rosy for the Jewish population.
I might also add that as Sephardic and Orthodox Jews continue to grow in numbers, along with Israeli Arabs, the Israeli nation will become more Middle Eastern and less European. Not good for the Jews.
I suppose Jews should be flattered that you think we get to decide who's the next hegemonic power...
ReplyDeleteIt's more like front running, not deciding.
In the longterm.....
ReplyDeleteI see that you're not signing off on your comments anymore, Whiskey. I wonder why....
Noah said...
ReplyDelete"I suppose Jews should be flattered that you think we get to decide who's the next hegemonic power..."
Jews don't get to decide who the next hegemonic power is but they can try and predict who it will be and then arrange themselves accordingly.
I get the odd Jewish conspiracy theorist on my UK blog telling me that mass immigration and the financial crisis are all part of a cunning (Jewish) plan.
ReplyDeleteAt which point I reflect that this cunning plan is leading towards a situation where
a) in the UK, Muslims will have an effective veto on UK foreign policy, partly due to worry about bombs and partly due to electoral/demographic considerations
b) in the world, economic leadership is passing (and military leadership may well pass) from the USA, where the Jewish community is probably the most successful and powerful in the world (and is influential at a high level), to China, where there are very few Jews (and Han chauvinism/Chinese exceptionalism is not negligible).
If that's a conspiracy, I fail to see where Jewish interest comes into it. As usual, the cock-up theory of history (or the law of unintended consequences) wins out over the conspiracy theory of history.
I suppose Jews should be flattered that you think we get to decide who's the next hegemonic power...
ReplyDeleteWhy do Jews keep blaming Steve for reporting the things Jews say?
(Yes, that is a rhetorical question)
Why is no one talking about brazil and turkey? They are both growing at over ten percent a year. Brazil should eventually be able to challenge America in the western hemisphere. As Thomas Friedman wrote the other day, turkey is the commanding hub of central Asia.
ReplyDelete@Anon, EU has almost no Hindu immigrants outside UK, whereas per 2008 Pew report, the US Hindus are 0.4% vs 0.6% for US muslims
ReplyDeleteThis Hindu population is rich, educated and anti-islam and is aligning with jews against muslims in every diaspora including UK
USINPAC founder had most of his family killed in Lahore by muslims, and he has aligned USINPAC with AIPAC
Several pro-muslim US groups are lamenting this
Therwath, Ingrid ‘Working for India or against Islam ? Islamophobia in Indian American Lobbies’, South Asia
Multidisciplinary Academic Journal, Fall 2007,
ETHNIC LOBBIES, THE NEW INDIA LOBBY, AND THE INDIA-PAKISTAN INFLUENCE GAME
ALY JIWANI
They are just preparing for history to repeat itself a la 1290 or 1492. The categorical non-opinion about Jews is the big perk. Japan, with a rather Keynesian banking system, has at least a working familiarity (that's why it ranks third here).
ReplyDeleteSteve,
ReplyDeleteChina will never be a world super power in the same vein as the US or USSR because of the extent of their environmental degradation. In fact, China is on pace to deplete all of their fresh water supplies by 2030.
Read Elizabeth Economy's essay, "The Great Leap Backward?" for more details.
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/great-leap-backward
The kin altruism religion (Christianity, communism, modern day PC, etc.)... The reciprocal altruism religion (Judaism)
ReplyDeleteHuh?!?
The Jews invented [and propagated and deified] Communism and "Political Correctness".
[Heck, when you get right down to it, they invented Christianity, as well, but I guess that's a different discussion.]
I don't agree with your rosy assessment of India. Very large regional differences among other social problems will keep the nation quite chaotic politically, even as they are producing many excellent scientists from top schools within India.
ReplyDeleteThough I don't think India will be able to tolerate the wrenching inequality that the Chinese have, which will require more government controls and welfare. This might work as a disadvantage for India.
ReplyDeleteIndia already has wrenching inequality, probably worse than China right now.
Hundreds of millions one meal from starvation, millions living on the streets.
It's nice that some actual jews have finally gotten around to writing their own "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", rather than relying on one written by czarist secret policemen.
ReplyDeleteA kid in Japan will be at the mercy of larger, more powerful neighbors. I detect a large dose of post-Christian morality, the form but not the substance, in paleo arguments against "imperialism" that Machiavelli warned against.
ReplyDeleteHistory and human nature don't care about morality. Its akin to Ghandi telling Jews to cut their own throats for the Nazis to gain the moral upper hand. Being relatively powerless against a powerful neighbor is an invitation to annexation and colonial rule. It has always been this way and always will be this way. Absent the US Seventh Fleet, Japan is nothing more than China's (or perhaps North Korea's) colony. You might argue that is merely karma, but it won't do much for a Japanese person born there, who had nothing to do with long past abuses.
JJ -- that is not me.
China is not a good long term bet, Jim Chanos notes that Germany, Japan, and the USSR post-war mustered lots of capital resources/investment, but at a certain point mere marshaling of capital investment (moving people to cities/factories from inefficient small farms) must transition to greater worker efficiency.
So far, China has been unable to do so, and posting "official" 8-10% growth rates per year is pretty fishy. Per worker efficiency has by some measures dropped. Strikes at Honda Lock and other places are a function of running out of young workers (fewer scabs).
Whiskey sez:
ReplyDeleteIsrael's best friend and biggest backer is America. If American power and prestige decline, or Americans get tired of defending Israel, that's really bad news for the Jewish population.
How ironic then that in particular Jews are doing everything they can to diminsh US power in the short-, medium- and long-term.
@hopeanon,
ReplyDeleteMuslim civil war due to islamic overfertility is inevitable in Russia, EU, Israel and India
and there will be no super powerdom
The Japanese are quietly doing the opposite of what the Great and the Good here recommend for countries (aging population, low immigration, low defense spending, non-interventionist foreign policy, population tends to save their money, actually invests in technology instead of just talking about it), and so will be interesting to watch for that reason alone.
ReplyDeleteChinese has a markedly cyclical history where a dynasty unifies the place, starts out strong, becomes increasingly corrupt, then it all falls apart, and Western observers either don't know that or forget that. Also the Western tendency to discuss China and India as if they were normal nation states like France or Mexico is really ignorant.
Somewhat off topic but, it looks like another financial windfall for China, India, and South Asian counties provided by the Obama Administration.
ReplyDeleteCongress's Approval of Finance Bill Shifts Focus to Regulators
July 16 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Senate approval of the biggest overhaul of Wall Street oversight since the Great Depression will shift the financial industry's focus to the regulatory agencies charged with writing rules to implement the measure.
The Senate vote that sent the bill to President Barack Obama's desk yesterday ended a year of partisan wrangling among lawmakers over new protections for consumers and investors in the wake of the 2008 credit crisis. Obama's signing of the measure, which may come next week, is likely to launch a new round of efforts to reshape the rules to the industry's liking.
Today is an excellent time to begin early investment in India, China and others nascent financial services industries. Billions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs will soon flow into India, China, and South Asian countries as a result of the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill. The bill states that race and gender employment ratios must be observed by all government agencies that regulate the financial sector, as well as private financial institutions that do business with the government. It will do this through the "Office of Minority and Women Inclusion" to ensure the racial, ethnic and gender diversity of the work force and senior management. As a result, the financial services industry will almost certainly begin offshoring financial services to escape becoming uncompetitive.
The bill to signed by President Obama next week is yet another attempt to by the Obama Administration to engage in job and wealth transfer between American ethnic groups.
"Japan last". Japan is a strange choice. They have a population that is already declining in absolute terms, and they reached the demographic "point of no return" decades ago. Japan also is growing slower economically than the US and Western Europe, despite being somewhat poorer.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Japan's robot technology, I doubt that can save them. Japan has the most advanced humanoid robots for now (S. Korea is right on their heels) but humanoid robots are all but worthless anyway, and the US dominates aerial robots, wheeled robots (see DARPA urban challenge), and tank tread robots (i.e. robots with military applications).
Basically, I think they're right about China and India. But a lot could change over the next few decades. For instance, China could be in a bubble economy and have an economic catastrophe that leads to serious civil unrest. India is vulnerable to ethnic conflagration and local Nuclear war with Pakistan.
Poor devils, the husbands.
ReplyDeleteLOL'ed!
As usual, the cock-up theory of history (or the law of unintended consequences) wins out over the conspiracy theory of history.
ReplyDeleteThe "distributed genetic algorithm" theory of history wins out over both of these.
Why is Whiskey so fixated on The Jews?
ReplyDeleteElites are generally less committed to the community than are lower-level members of the community. Traditionally, the elite has been the point of entry for the Jewish community into the gentile community. The entry is usually facilitated by the high-IQ, sophisticated, savvy, etc., outsiders presenting or marketing themselves as having more in common with the elite than the elite’s own “poor relations”.
ReplyDeleteThe bottom line is that gentile elites have tendencies to act more individualistically or selfishly vis-a-vis their "poor relations" in the lower strata, and indeed would be expected to do so when they can get away with it. And these tendencies are targeted and exploited. This is nothing more than within-group selection operating at the expense of the group under basic principles of multi-level selection theory. Of course, as David Sloan Wilson explains, the enforcement of a moral code is an important foundation of group cohesion, and ideally the moral code works to exert bi-directional social control in stratified societies. Each stratum, ideally, exerts control over adjacent strata to prevent parasitic behavior by group members.
The Jewish community encourages the gentile elite to engage in more individualistic or selfish activity. The Jewish community’s activities tend to interfere with the mechanisms of bidirectional control whereby parasitism at the top by the elite is ameliorated, if not eliminated. When Benjamin Ginsberg (in his book The Fatal Embrace: Jews and the State) speaks of the role of the Jewish community in building the (coercive) “state”, he is essentially referring to a process of centralization of power that consists of the breaking of the organic ties between those who govern and those who are governed.
The tension between the gentile elite’s egoistic interests and the interests of the group is not created by the Jewish community, and absent genetic uniformity within the community, the principles of evolutionary biology hold that such tension will remain (although where the gentile elite is viewed as genetically similar to the commoners, a greater degree of elite egoism will be tolerated).
ReplyDeleteIn the absence of a Jewish presence, large stratified gentile communities will not magically or instantaneously become perfectly cohesive and harmonious [though it is worth noting the extraordinary achievements of English civilization in the centuries after the expulsion by Edward I, and the decline that followed widespread intermarriage beginning in the early 19th century (see Hillare Belloc’s The Jews) and the Emancipation of the Jews in the same century], but Jewish influence, to the extent it works to break the bonds that tie the community together and that enable the interests of a wayward elite to be reined in, prevents or impedes gentile communities from resolving the tension between “individual” interests and “group” interests.
Moreover, while greater individualism may in theory be adaptive for the gentile elite, the expression of such greater individualism becomes maladaptive at some point. Regardless of the distinctive or eccentric sub-genes, genes, and gene-combinations ("genetic structures") that the native elite may possess, the elite members of a community will still share large portions of their genetic structures with the non-elite. That is to say, the evolutionary fate of the elite’s genetic structures is shared to some significant degree with that of the non-elite.
Because of this shared (or, more precisely, overlapping) fate, a program of multiculturalism that results in the destruction of the non-elite is ultimately harmful to the elite’s own evolutionary interests, although the exact point at which a multicultural program becomes maladaptive for the elite is more difficult to pinpoint. The hypothesis that multiculturalism somehow emanates from a native elite faces a substantial theoretical problem.
Why is Whiskey so fixated on The Jews?
ReplyDeletemaybe he is one.
Anyone interested in "Eurabia" should check out God's Continent.
ReplyDeleteIt's difficult to get stats on the growth of Muslims in Russia/China.
“The rise of Asian states, particularly China and India, may be very significant from a Jewish perspective since Asian countries do not share the Biblical religions and traditions, and therefore, have a radically different view of Judaism and the Jewish People than Christian and Islamic countries. Also, they do not have significant Jewish communities. This provides unprecedented opportunities for a Jewish global grand-strategy, as proposed in a JPPPI paper on upgrading relations between the Jewish People and China.”
ReplyDeleteA quote like this is priceless (play on words...), in so many ways.
Without fully breaking down the statement, point by point, what sticks out most strikingly is the uphill battle faced by Jews in this endeavor, in that there is no underlying connection between communities.
This will make the swindle much harder to pull off, as Ashkenazim, for all their misplaced victimology and hate for goy Whites, are intrinsically connected to the European peoples in ways they can never be to, say, the Chinese first, last and only mentality-as-society; that is, they are true aliens, and masking this would be no easy task.
Further, it will be interesting to see what happens to the West's central religion. No, not free trade, but rather Holocaust Worship.
AKA the new Blood Libel, inverted. Oh so clever, but in its success it will lead to ultimate failure; for this is the unfortunate fact and factor within heterodoxic attacks on orthodoxy (as in, the fact that heterodoxy can only exist, in a negative yin/yang battle, with orthodoxy; it can't strive or survive as orthodoxy).
By overthrowing or subverting the West so thoroughly, they will help to once again greatly harm themselves.
Even Keynesians aren't going to be able to effectively export the Shoya to non-White regimes and powers.
All this is to say, that the Askenazim, specifically to and through their Caucasoid nature and power over the Jewish community, can never seem to crack the code. The sad fact -- tragically ironic -- is that they are what they so hate.
They're Western. And they're White.
Kenneth, that's more or less my take as well, that Jewish influence tips the balance in favor of a wayward, exploitative elite. It's obviously not that we'd be in perfect harmony sans Jews, just that we'd have a winnable fight with our elite sans Jews.
ReplyDeleteI shouldn't have signed my comments off as anonymous, but I'm not Whiskey.
ReplyDeleteI do think that mass scale Muslim immigration West, combined with the decline of American power, is not a good thing for the Jews. The rise of India is a mildly good thing, but otherwise the picture doesn't look that good.
I'd say the best strategy for the Jews is to:
a.) Support policies that help keep America the top dog (ie tax cuts, pro business initiatives, creating jobs rather than outsourcing, investing big money in R&D and manufacturing, encourage educated people to have kids, Canadian-style immigration system to bring over high human capital immigrants, pro-family cultural initiatives)
b.) Supporting a moratorium on immigration in all the Western countries. Really, the Jewish lobbies are powerful enough that if they wanted it, we could halt immigration and even attempt a Sailer-type plan to buyout Muslim citizens. Right now, the Jewish population stands with the open borders crowd. Give them time to see how these open borders policies are biting them in the rear end, and I predict Jewish people will switch sides. Sort of how Jews went from backing Dinkins to Giuliania, due to a fear of NAM crime and anti-semitism.
c.)Pay the Arabs big money to leave Israeli territory. Then wall off the place and build a strong anti-missile defense system to protect them from rocket and ICBM attacks.
d.) Push for some type of trade zone in the Mid East that involves the Israelis and Arabs. Hopefully, if they're trading, they won't kill each other as often....
Among the non-Western world in 2050: 1. Reunified Russia; 2. Japan; 3. India.
ReplyDeleteChina? There won't be a China in 2050. In its place will be 4-5 separate warring states.
“The rise of Asian states, particularly China and India, may be very significant from a Jewish perspective since Asian countries do not share the Biblical religions and traditions, and therefore, have a radically different view of Judaism and the Jewish People than Christian and Islamic countries. Also, they do not have significant Jewish communities. This provides unprecedented opportunities for a Jewish global grand-strategy, as proposed in a JPPPI paper on upgrading relations between the Jewish People and China.”
ReplyDeleteThese Jews won't have as much success as they're hoping for. Asian states are too racially homogenuous. Also, though I am not Jewish, I have a very Jewish-sounding last name and am involved in work which Jews often do. One day I was talking with my Chinese partner and somehow my name came up. I told her I wasn't Jewish. "I'm glad you're not Jewish", she said "because Jews are supposed to be dishonest and not trustworthy."
Why is Whiskey so fixated on The Jews?
ReplyDeleteTel Aviv Scots-Irish.
[It's kinda like Scotch-Korean.]
Pretty sure that the Chinese Communist Party knows about HBD. The average IQ in Shanghai is 109. The CCP recently relaxed the One Child Policy for Shanghai residents. Coincidence?
ReplyDeleteAnon - The "distributed genetic algorithm" theory of history wins out over both of these. ('these' being the conspiracy v cock-up theories of history - LT)
ReplyDeleteCan you explain ? I don't know what a "distributed genetic algorithm" is.
@anonymous: We Texans were not "illegal immigrants". The King of Spain demanded an oath of loyalty before he granted us land and let us settle. We honored that oath, and then some crazy Mexicans overthrew the King of Spain and tried to force us Texans into some misbegotten thing they called "Mexico". And you can see how that tuned out. Compare Spain and Mexico and tell me where you would rather live.
ReplyDeletePretty sure that the Chinese Communist Party knows about HBD. The average IQ in Shanghai is 109. The CCP recently relaxed the One Child Policy for Shanghai residents. Coincidence?
ReplyDeleteI've been continuing my reading on central Asia. I think it's been mentioned before, but it bears repeating: the OCP doesn't apply to (at least some) non-Han minorities, e.g., Turkic peoples. I'm not sure if that's only regional (read it in the Xinjiang Wikipedia article or thereabouts) or what.
I've been continuing my reading on central Asia. I think it's been mentioned before, but it bears repeating: the OCP doesn't apply to (at least some) non-Han minorities, e.g., Turkic peoples. I'm not sure if that's only regional (read it in the Xinjiang Wikipedia article or thereabouts) or what.
ReplyDeleteThat's true, but I imagine that they take the hit from this slight bit of dysgenics for the sake of social stability. Open rebellion from the various conquered peoples would be much more likely if the Han authorites told them that they can't procreate.
The Western world was quite homogeneous for a long time, and most Westerners held attitudes.
ReplyDeleteIf by "anti-Semitic" you mean that they permitted Jews to lend money at interest, something which the "Westerners" could not do, sure.
"These illegals have taken over forests and rhino habitats and created a Eurabia type mess"
ReplyDeleteIndia already is a Eurabia type mess, Bangladeshis will only make it a bit worse.
"Israel has toppled Russia as the main source of Indian arms imports"
ReplyDeleteWhat rubbish, Russia remains and will always remain the backbone of the Indian arm forces. All the major arms like Tanks, fighter planes etc.. in the Indian arm forces and even ships are totally Russian and will be for some time. The future tank in the Indian army will be the T-90. Israel only supplies the small side-show stuff.
Jews are wildly popular in India for how they handle their muslim problem
ReplyDeleteu mean like white Americans would be popular with the Jewish-controlled media if they were to handle their Mexican problem the same way that the Israeli's handle their Muslim "problem"?
"Kin altruism and reciprocal altruism are the two primary organizing principles in evolution. They correspond roughly to the principles of Western religions (Christianity, communism, modern day PC, etc.) that were devised for the host populations and Judaism, respectively."
ReplyDeleteUhh no they do not. All those 'Western religions' you name are in contrast with kin and reciprocal altruism; they're universalist and egalitarian. Is this what you meant to say?
"That's true, but I imagine that they take the hit from this slight bit of dysgenics for the sake of social stability. Open rebellion from the various conquered peoples would be much more likely if the Han authorites told them that they can't procreate."
Also worth mentioning that the Han are a 90% majority of the PRC and hold all of the best farmland. It is not possible that any of the minorities from the steppes, deserts or mountains are ever going to outbreed them--at least, not sustainably.
Why India will never rule the world.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8x2oii4cIM&feature=topvideos
Why India will not rule the world pt 2.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUu4ZCx3xnE&feature=channel
From Indiastar.com
ReplyDeleteHindus extend hospitality to the outside groups to the extent that the outsiders refrain from proselytizing Hindus. For example, the Islamic injunction to proselytize all infidels and to slay those who refuse (Koran, 9.5) is the major cause of conflict between the Muslims and the Hindus for more than a thousand years. The Christian missionaries are vigorously opposed by most Hindus, including M. K. Gandhi, who said, "If I had the power and could legislate, I should stop all proselytising . . . . It is the deadliest poison that ever sapped the fountain of truth." Unlike the Muslims and the Christians, the Jews in India never engaged in proselytizing activities. In my opinion, the greatest of the Jewish strategies of adapting to India lay in what the Jews did not do!
"Mein Kampf" is a best seller in India these days so World Zionism might wish to rethink choice number 2. As for China, I reasonably doubt Jews can charm the Han into sharing power and wealth in any meaningful way; after all, Jews had no hand in the Chinese economy, which is almost sui generis. (So Jews can't claim, as they did in the West, that their financial genius made economic dominance possible). Japan? Forget it. Japanese consider the Koreans, their genetic forebears, to be monkeys. What are the odds they will allow Jews to compete on a level playing field with the Shogun elite?
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, Jews need quasi-meritocratic conditions to thrive. (It's the reason Taiwanese and Shanghai-ese parents still try to get American citizenship for their kids, in spite of the meteoric economic rise of the Chinese people.) White Europeans might stand by idly as Jews hammer on the levers of power, and weaken society by promoting socialism, big government, and third world immigration. But the Chinese and Japanese consider things like genocide of competing races to be a virtue. They won't tolerate minority coalition building meant to destroy the power of their monolithic majorities.
So Jews should count on making their stand with the West, where they have accumulated their wealth and power -- which probably is not fungible in the East. They should cease and desist their alliance with culture and free market destroying non-whites in America . Or they will find their wealth and influence collapse, along with America 's debt rating and GDP.
@Anon - "Mein Kampf" is a best seller in India these days so World Zionism might wish to rethink choice number 2.
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Mein Kampf is also a best seller in islamic countries
Since he killed jews
Hitler, Kaiser and Japan are viewed with more neutrality in India, since they supported Indian revolutionaries in WW1, WW2
The BJP and related organisations have been pro-Israel since 1948, because they admire the ways the Jews handle the muslim problem
The only non-whites who come to pro-Israel rallies in the USA are Indian Hindus
Agreed with China beating out India for these reasons. Japan does not have the population or age structure to compete.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of 2030, the US will be ahead of India, though probably behind China by then. Russia will have a strong position due to its energy wealth and new lands opening up by global warming.
Dear Mr Sailer,
ReplyDeletemaybe you noticed it already, but the version of "2030:Alternative Futures..." you quote and which I had downloaded from the cited site some months ago, disappeared quietly from the web.
The version with the same title currently downloadable from the site
bjpa.org/Publications/downloadPublication.cfm?PublicationID=4497
does not contain the parts mentioned in your article, seems to be watered down and does not use the expression "Jewish People".
Interesting, hmmmm......