President Obama has redecorated the Oval Office, and it turns out to be just as scintillating and individualistic as we've come to expect from Mr. Excitement:
"The look is angular and modern — it evokes the feel of a den — and tends toward neutral hues of browns and taupe ..."
Yes he also declared the end of combat operations in Iraq. Didn't we have that before? Didn't he get the Nobel Peace Prize for this, or have I got something mixed up?
I actually thought of you [and e.g. your theories about golf-courses-as-works-of-art] when I read that story this morning.
The Obamas have atrocious taste in interior decorating - but does that really surprise anyone?
And I wonder what 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is smelling like these days?
PS: Check out this above the fold screamer at Yahoo - "Obama address stumbles in significance ; A cautious president awkwardly marks an important milestone for the country's mission in Iraq ; Words that he avoided".
No mention of an ashtray. It'd probably be in poor taste to use Willy's cigar ashtray. How's dear leader's habit coming anyway? It looked like he could have used one tonight, especially at the beginning. I'm curious not so much because I begrudge him of it, there's nothing wrong with smoking, although it is getting to be a rarity for youngish politicians. The press probably leaves him alone about it lest he be emmulated by the youth. I'm curious because no matter what happens in this election, when he leaves office he will be fairly young. I just want to know the odds of hearing the words Justice Obama.
Steve Sailer said..."President Obama has redecorated the Oval Office, and it turns out to be just as scintillating and individualistic as we've come to expect from Mr. Excitement."
Actually, it is quite individualistic--but not in a good way. Other presidents have put their own stamp on the room but generally kept to the formal, traditional look in keeping with its Federal style.
Obama, though, has grafted informal, modern elements more suitable to a den or business office onto what is, after all, a ceremonial space of national significance. His additions look out-of-place and discordant. I imagine he's not unaware of that. He does enjoy thumbing his nose at his non-fans.
It's the Jimmy Carter Aw Shucks Down Home Sweater Look writ large. At least Jimmeh could take the sweater off and wear a suit if he wanted to look adult. Hard to dress a room every morning. So does he have a 42 inch TV hidden in the credenza and a built in beer cooler for watching the Super Bowl in comfort with his budz?
I thought it could've been a lot worse and was quite relieved to see all the taupe.
The coffee table and the blue table lamps are awful ... and no comment on the MLK quote on the carpet (not to mention sending Churchill back to England) ... but at least there's no zebra stripes on anything. Or (God help us) Yoruba figurines.
1) The chair: everyone should use an office chair that he finds comfortable. If the old one was uncomfortable the new chair should have been charged to the taxpayer. 2) The sunburst carpet: I'd have changed it too. If the change were just a matter of taste, it should not be charged to the taxpayer. 3) The rest: oh come on, he's just a bloody politician. What in God's name was the point in claiming to give up monarchy and then obsessing over your Presidents as if they were monarchs? It's childish. And you should give up all this "First Lady" idiocy as well; it's worse than childish.
We can only hope the recession prevents them from imposing the "audacity of taupe" on the rest of the White House.
The comments on this act of historical vandalism at the New York Times are interesting. A fair number are appropriately negative, but then there are those that reflexively gush about how "classy" the room has become.
"Modern" is not a problem, but that adjective doesn't describe what I saw--it's pure casual. I like beiges and browns (with some accents, of course); I like them in my family room, and I like casual, but not in the Oval Office which, whether any President likes it or not, is not just his office, but the office of the People. The Oval Office is highly symbolic, and it seems to me that he should have realized the American people have a connection that requires respect. (Why doesn't it surprise me that he doesn't give a damn about what the American people think?)
The casual sofas and the coffee table do not suggest the dignity or tie to tradition and the historical past that most would wish to be displayed there.
The Obamas can do anything they'd like to their private quarters, but this place is different. What's next? Painting the White House something other than white?
I sometimes wonder how deep blacks resentment towards whites runs. I suspect it is deeper than we are willing to believe.
Blacks have always been a junior partner. Prior to 1865 they had no in put at all. After that, their influence has grown, albeit slowly and only in certain areas. One area they have had almost no culturial footprint in is in architecture and interior design. In this country, what was not borrowed from whites in Europe was created by dead white males.
I am sure that somewhere deep inside, The President and Michelle Obama have a "chip" on their shoulder, which is why they hate the old and embrace the new.
Those are actually two mutually exclusive thoughts. Except that one of them is only half right.
Tell me this, if everything else about Obama's history was exactly the same, with the exception that his father had been, say, this radical activist from Africa instead of this one, do you think he would have still been elected President?
For that matter, would he have still been elected to represent the 13th District in the Illinois State Senate?
As far as his reboot of the Oval Office decor, it's pretty much what you would expect from someone raised from childhood by an elderly white couple from Kansas.
Kylie - good comments re the awkward grafting of modern den elements into what is a "ceremonial space of national significance." The Won and the Wookie like pomp and pageantry (ebonics translation: bling) but are utterly lacking in respect for tradition and formality.
Hesper - I, too, was able to instantly discern the comment's provenance. While there are lazy and ignorant whites who think it's cute to use all lower-case letters, it's more often a black who does so, having been taught it's "literary" a la bell hooks.
What was Obama's Oval Office address about, exactly? By Richard Cohen August 31, 2010; 9:18 PM ET voices.washingtonpost.com
Was it about Iraq, as we were led to expect, or was it about Afghanistan, as we were not led to expect? Was it about the economy, which the president mentioned, or education, which he also mentioned? Could it have been directed at Iraqis, whom the president praised in terms they would not have recognized, or was it about our troops, whom the president praised over and over again -- a kind of rhetorical tick that suggested he had run out of things to say? As a speech, Obama delivered a version of the pudding once served Winton Churchill. “Pray, remove it,” he supposedly said. “It lacks theme.”
An Oval Office speech is supposed to be an important event. This was only Obama’s second, after all, and if he asks us all to interrupt our schedules and listen to what he has to say, then he at least ought to say something. In this, he dismally failed...
Isn't "miserable failure" the Google bomb that the left worked so hard to plant against George W Bush?
Sheila said..."Kylie - good comments re the awkward grafting of modern den elements into what is a 'ceremonial space of national significance.'"
Thanks, Sheila. Interior design is one of my passions so you can imagine my dismay at seeing the Obama redo. From a political aspect, it's offensive; from an aesthetic aspect, it's horrid.
And: "The Won and the Wookie like pomp and pageantry (ebonics translation: bling) but are utterly lacking in respect for tradition and formality."
Exactly. Or put another way, pride but no dignity.
But I think the new decor is ugly. You could renovate the office and make it a beautiful modern room. But then it wouldn't look like the Oval Office anymore. So don't go halfway by just changing the color scheme and putting in a new coffee table. Putting in beige carpets, sofas, wallpaper, and drapes doesn't make the room modern. It just makes it beige.
I like how the commenters alternate between "Obama is a bloodless SWPL yuppie masquerading as a black man" and "Obama is ghetto trash debasing the integrity of the White House." Stay classy, iSteve commentariat!
why do u do nothing but attack president barrack obama, mr sailer?
if white people is so great why does they have a problem with giving up some of their power to black ppl? do u have a problem with being historicaly fair?
answer me that, mr sailer. why are u so afraid of ideas?
How weird this is. In my dystopian novel, Mister, I have a race-obsessed police inspector, "Obama" (based on our friend Barack), who, as it happens, likes to wear beige and brown suits, shirts, and ties. I had no idea when I wrote those chapters in early 2008 that the gentleman who would eventually end up in the White House would betray identical tastes in with his furniture. Evidently, Obama is enamoured with brownness in more ways than one.
why do u do nothing but attack president barrack obama, mr sailer? if white people is so great why does they have a problem with giving up some of their power to black ppl? do u have a problem with being historicaly fair? answer me that, mr sailer. why are u so afraid of ideas?
PLEASE tell me that this is a parody of a troll, and not an actual troll.
[The fact that "their" is spelled correctly, - and is not either "they're", "there", or simply "they" - suggests to me a parody.]
I think all of this "Obama is a Muslim" controversy recently is a red herring by the Democrats to try to sway the public away from the hemmorhaging in the polls Obama is doing to the Democrats before the upcoming elections. Obama screws up with the public in one decision after another- Officer Crowley, bowing to overseas heads of state, health care reform, illegal immigration stalling, etc.
So the Dems decide- lets bring up a diversion that some of these same America people suspect- that Obama may be a Muslim. (Nevermind that most of the populace didn't think he was). Now we can publicly shame the American populace for something - bad racist, bad Islamophobe. With the overarching theme that you must be a bad person if you think badly about the president or Dems, and you should ignore what they have actually done.
Oval Office rug gets history wrong By Jamie Stiehm Saturday, September 4, 2010 washingtonpost.com
..."The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." According media reports, this quote keeping Obama company on his wheat-colored carpet is from King.
Except it's not a King quote. The words belong to a long-gone Bostonian champion of social progress. His roots in the republic ran so deep that his grandfather commanded the Minutemen at the Battle of Lexington.
For the record, Theodore Parker is your man, President Obama...
Yes he also declared the end of combat operations in Iraq. Didn't we have that before? Didn't he get the Nobel Peace Prize for this, or have I got something mixed up?
ReplyDeleteThere is a far, far better version of the story at the UK Daily Mail:
ReplyDeleteChurchill out, Martin Luther King in: First glimpse at President Obama's revamped and thoroughly modern Oval Office
I actually thought of you [and e.g. your theories about golf-courses-as-works-of-art] when I read that story this morning.
The Obamas have atrocious taste in interior decorating - but does that really surprise anyone?
And I wonder what 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is smelling like these days?
PS: Check out this above the fold screamer at Yahoo - "Obama address stumbles in significance ; A cautious president awkwardly marks an important milestone for the country's mission in Iraq ; Words that he avoided".
The vultures are circling...
No mention of an ashtray. It'd probably be in poor taste to use Willy's cigar ashtray. How's dear leader's habit coming anyway? It looked like he could have used one tonight, especially at the beginning. I'm curious not so much because I begrudge him of it, there's nothing wrong with smoking, although it is getting to be a rarity for youngish politicians. The press probably leaves him alone about it lest he be emmulated by the youth. I'm curious because no matter what happens in this election, when he leaves office he will be fairly young. I just want to know the odds of hearing the words Justice Obama.
ReplyDeleteI just want to know the odds of hearing the words Justice Obama.
ReplyDeleteFor my own mental health and for the good of the country, I hope the odds are low. Very, very, very, low.
Steve Sailer said..."President Obama has redecorated the Oval Office, and it turns out to be just as scintillating and individualistic as we've come to expect from Mr. Excitement."
ReplyDeleteActually, it is quite individualistic--but not in a good way. Other presidents have put their own stamp on the room but generally kept to the formal, traditional look in keeping with its Federal style.
Obama, though, has grafted informal, modern elements more suitable to a den or business office onto what is, after all, a ceremonial space of national significance. His additions look out-of-place and discordant. I imagine he's not unaware of that. He does enjoy thumbing his nose at his non-fans.
It's the Jimmy Carter Aw Shucks Down Home Sweater Look writ large. At least Jimmeh could take the sweater off and wear a suit if he wanted to look adult. Hard to dress a room every morning. So does he have a 42 inch TV hidden in the credenza and a built in beer cooler for watching the Super Bowl in comfort with his budz?
ReplyDeleteMore pics soon in "Better Homies and Gardens".
ReplyDeleteThe Oval Office looks like a 'community room' in a nursing home.
ReplyDeleteI thought it could've been a lot worse and was quite relieved to see all the taupe.
ReplyDeleteThe coffee table and the blue table lamps are awful ... and no comment on the MLK quote on the carpet (not to mention sending Churchill back to England) ... but at least there's no zebra stripes on anything. Or (God help us) Yoruba figurines.
I didnt know there were that many shades of beige out there.
ReplyDelete1) The chair: everyone should use an office chair that he finds comfortable. If the old one was uncomfortable the new chair should have been charged to the taxpayer.
ReplyDelete2) The sunburst carpet: I'd have changed it too. If the change were just a matter of taste, it should not be charged to the taxpayer.
3) The rest: oh come on, he's just a bloody politician. What in God's name was the point in claiming to give up monarchy and then obsessing over your Presidents as if they were monarchs? It's childish. And you should give up all this "First Lady" idiocy as well; it's worse than childish.
More pics soon in "Better Homies and Gardens".
ReplyDeleteBetter Homies and Altgeld Gardens - the asbestos issue.
I think of him more as PUCE.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually somewhat surprised he kept the Remington sculpture in there - he doesn't seem like someone with particular affinity for the Old West...
ReplyDeleteWe can only hope the recession prevents them from imposing the "audacity of taupe" on the rest of the White House.
ReplyDeleteThe comments on this act of historical vandalism at the New York Times are interesting. A fair number are appropriately negative, but then there are those that reflexively gush about how "classy" the room has become.
"Modern" is not a problem, but that adjective doesn't describe what I saw--it's pure casual. I like beiges and browns (with some accents, of course); I like them in my family room, and I like casual, but not in the Oval Office which, whether any President likes it or not, is not just his office, but the office of the People. The Oval Office is highly symbolic, and it seems to me that he should have realized the American people have a connection that requires respect. (Why doesn't it surprise me that he doesn't give a damn about what the American people think?)
ReplyDeleteThe casual sofas and the coffee table do not suggest the dignity or tie to tradition and the historical past that most would wish to be displayed there.
The Obamas can do anything they'd like to their private quarters, but this place is different. What's next? Painting the White House something other than white?
schintillating?
ReplyDeleteand people make fun of bush and palin?
-bushrod
I sometimes wonder how deep blacks resentment towards whites runs. I suspect it is deeper than we are willing to believe.
ReplyDeleteBlacks have always been a junior partner. Prior to 1865 they had no in put at all. After that, their influence has grown, albeit slowly and only in certain areas. One area they have had almost no culturial footprint in is in architecture and interior design. In this country, what was not borrowed from whites in Europe was created by dead white males.
I am sure that somewhere deep inside, The President and Michelle Obama have a "chip" on their shoulder, which is why they hate the old and embrace the new.
he's black and you don't trust him.
ReplyDeleteThose are actually two mutually exclusive thoughts. Except that one of them is only half right.
Tell me this, if everything else about Obama's history was exactly the same, with the exception that his father had been, say, this radical activist from Africa instead of this one, do you think he would have still been elected President?
For that matter, would he have still been elected to represent the 13th District in the Illinois State Senate?
As far as his reboot of the Oval Office decor, it's pretty much what you would expect from someone raised from childhood by an elderly white couple from Kansas.
Hesper. you never saw any Australian Aboriginals?
ReplyDeleteThe New York Times headlines:
ReplyDelete"President’s Office Takes On New Neutral Tones," and then, as if to reassure us, "but Keeps Its Familiar Shape."
So it's still oval.
Who says Obama's a radical?
Anonymous said..."More pics soon in 'Better Homies and Gardens'".
ReplyDeleteYes, along with a feature article titled, "The Obamas Bring Much-Needed Color to a Too White House".
Kylie - good comments re the awkward grafting of modern den elements into what is a "ceremonial space of national significance." The Won and the Wookie like pomp and pageantry (ebonics translation: bling) but are utterly lacking in respect for tradition and formality.
ReplyDeleteHesper - I, too, was able to instantly discern the comment's provenance. While there are lazy and ignorant whites who think it's cute to use all lower-case letters, it's more often a black who does so, having been taught it's "literary" a la bell hooks.
The vultures are circling...
ReplyDeleteWhat was Obama's Oval Office address about, exactly?
By Richard Cohen
August 31, 2010; 9:18 PM ET
voices.washingtonpost.com
Was it about Iraq, as we were led to expect, or was it about Afghanistan, as we were not led to expect? Was it about the economy, which the president mentioned, or education, which he also mentioned? Could it have been directed at Iraqis, whom the president praised in terms they would not have recognized, or was it about our troops, whom the president praised over and over again -- a kind of rhetorical tick that suggested he had run out of things to say? As a speech, Obama delivered a version of the pudding once served Winton Churchill. “Pray, remove it,” he supposedly said. “It lacks theme.”
An Oval Office speech is supposed to be an important event. This was only Obama’s second, after all, and if he asks us all to interrupt our schedules and listen to what he has to say, then he at least ought to say something. In this, he dismally failed...
Isn't "miserable failure" the Google bomb that the left worked so hard to plant against George W Bush?
Sheila said..."Kylie - good comments re the awkward grafting of modern den elements into what is a 'ceremonial space of national significance.'"
ReplyDeleteThanks, Sheila. Interior design is one of my passions so you can imagine my dismay at seeing the Obama redo. From a political aspect, it's offensive; from an aesthetic aspect, it's horrid.
And: "The Won and the Wookie like pomp and pageantry (ebonics translation: bling) but are utterly lacking in respect for tradition and formality."
Exactly. Or put another way, pride but no dignity.
I like some modern architecture and decor:
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/28pt56b
And the Oval Office has sometimes looked pretty bad:
http://www.whitehousemuseum.org/west-wing/oval-office-history.htm
But I think the new decor is ugly. You could renovate the office and make it a beautiful modern room. But then it wouldn't look like the Oval Office anymore. So don't go halfway by just changing the color scheme and putting in a new coffee table. Putting in beige carpets, sofas, wallpaper, and drapes doesn't make the room modern. It just makes it beige.
"i think if Obama were more schintillating or individualistic, you'd accuse him of being a muslim or a hippie.
ReplyDeletetruth is, he can't win.
he's black and you don't trust him.
his attempts at being "mainstream" and "boring" are derided by you as fakeries.
he can't win.
you can't overlook his color."
Ah, one of Twoof's less educated and more typographically challenged "brothers".
We have been making similar complaints about white politicians for centuries, but when we try to do the same to a black politician, it's "racism".
Playing the race card: it is your one and only tactic.
"i think if Obama were more schintillating or individualistic, you'd accuse him of being a muslim or a hippie."
ReplyDeleteHe does have a point, Steven.
"He does have a point, Steven."
ReplyDeleteWell, yeah, but if he comes his hair just right, maybe no one will notice.
I like how the commenters alternate between "Obama is a bloodless SWPL yuppie masquerading as a black man" and "Obama is ghetto trash debasing the integrity of the White House." Stay classy, iSteve commentariat!
ReplyDeleteHesper. you never saw any Australian Aboriginals?
ReplyDeleteThey're Australoids, not Negroids.
why do u do nothing but attack president barrack obama, mr sailer?
ReplyDeleteif white people is so great why does they have a problem with giving up some of their power to black ppl? do u have a problem with being historicaly fair?
answer me that, mr sailer. why are u so afraid of ideas?
How weird this is. In my dystopian novel, Mister, I have a race-obsessed police inspector, "Obama" (based on our friend Barack), who, as it happens, likes to wear beige and brown suits, shirts, and ties. I had no idea when I wrote those chapters in early 2008 that the gentleman who would eventually end up in the White House would betray identical tastes in with his furniture. Evidently, Obama is enamoured with brownness in more ways than one.
ReplyDeletewhy do u do nothing but attack president barrack obama, mr sailer? if white people is so great why does they have a problem with giving up some of their power to black ppl? do u have a problem with being historicaly fair? answer me that, mr sailer. why are u so afraid of ideas?
ReplyDeletePLEASE tell me that this is a parody of a troll, and not an actual troll.
[The fact that "their" is spelled correctly, - and is not either "they're", "there", or simply "they" - suggests to me a parody.]
"PLEASE tell me that this is a parody of a troll, and not an actual troll."
ReplyDeleteWell it's written in all lower-case, that should be hint enough.
Well it's written in all lower-case, that should be hint enough.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but a hint which way - actual or parody?
Sorry, I'm clueless.
Send Steve an E-mail. I think he'll let you in on the joke.
ReplyDeleteShould that be taupe, or red taupe? There's a lot of that coming out of Washington these days!
ReplyDeleteI think all of this "Obama is a Muslim" controversy recently is a red herring by the Democrats to try to sway the public away from the hemmorhaging in the polls Obama is doing to the Democrats before the upcoming elections. Obama screws up with the public in one decision after another- Officer Crowley, bowing to overseas heads of state, health care reform, illegal immigration stalling, etc.
ReplyDeleteSo the Dems decide- lets bring up a diversion that some of these same America people suspect- that Obama may be a Muslim. (Nevermind that most of the populace didn't think he was). Now we can publicly shame the American populace for something - bad racist, bad Islamophobe. With the overarching theme that you must be a bad person if you think badly about the president or Dems, and you should ignore what they have actually done.
Oval Office rug gets history wrong
ReplyDeleteBy Jamie Stiehm
Saturday, September 4, 2010
washingtonpost.com
..."The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." According media reports, this quote keeping Obama company on his wheat-colored carpet is from King.
Except it's not a King quote. The words belong to a long-gone Bostonian champion of social progress. His roots in the republic ran so deep that his grandfather commanded the Minutemen at the Battle of Lexington.
For the record, Theodore Parker is your man, President Obama...