From the New York Times:
The Forgotten Amerasians
By CHRISTOPHER M. LAPINIG
Filipinos with American fathers should have a path to U.S. citizenship.
For example, Dennis Rodman's father, Philander Rodman Jr., has sired several dozen children out of wedlock in the Philippines. How can we deny ourselves the diversity that these multitudinous Rodman-Americans would bring our boring white-bread country? (In the photo, Philander's white t-shirt advertises his Filipino dining and entertainment establishment, "Rodman's Rainbow ObamaBurger.")
And what about Tim Pawlenty Jr. of Subic Bay?
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Mr. Edwards had hoped to marry Merlie, but as a sailor, he could not marry a foreigner without his captain’s consent. The captain refused.
Is this really the rule in the U.S. military? A serviceman may not marry a foreigner unless he has his captain's consent?
While some Amerasians were conceived through prostitution, many were born out of committed relationships. Soldiers’ limited tours of duty — and, later, the abrupt closures of the bases — tore couples apart.
What would soldier's options at the time have been to keep their families together?
What would soldier's options at the time have been to keep their families together?
Even before the base closures, as soon as they were born, all they would have had to do was declare them as dependents to the military and do a little paperwork. It would have given them American citizenship and medical care from the military. There's actually incentives in place for service members to declare dependents, such as higher housing allowance, authorization to live off-post in civilian housing, etc.
Sadly, the truth is they were simply abandoned for whatever reason.
Anonymous,
Across the military enlisted personnel needed permission to marry, mainly so that 18 y/o sailors aren't marrying whores and then getting plugged into the military's benefit systems. Nowadays its a formality, but a commander can still deny 'command sponsorship' and keep the would be spouse from accessing the bennies and bringing problems to the unit.
Hehe. Truly hilarious. What would the cutoff age be for citizenship? I imagine there'd be kids from all the wars (and from a geographic spread, as well as a time spread) wanting citizenship, too.
Ready the DNA tests!
"Iraqis and Afghans next! They should be called Amerhajji."
I've read more than once that one of the peculiar things about these middle eastern/central Asian wars is how little, ahem, "shtupping" troops are doing on deployment. Of course, who wants to risk Baghdad when there are bases in Germany and Korea (note: If you know any current or former servicemen stationed in Europe or East Asia, ask them about it. The stories are great.)?
I've also read that the closing of Subic Bay was greatly lamented.
A not insubstantial fraction of the foreign women trying hardest to immigrate to the U.S. are, to one extent or another, prostitutes. I realize that the sacredness of would-be immigrants has been exalted to such a level that it seems like blasphemy to mention it, but it used to be common knowledge that many of the whores in Subic Bay were trying to ensnare a sailor into helping them get into America.
I spent some time in the PI. I got to know some LBFM's over there. I don't know about now, but back in the late 70s and early 80s, but for an american visiting there, the whole vibe in the Orient was...surrealistic, trippy. Addictive in a way. I don't blame the elder rodman for staying over there instead of going back to the states. His pension is worth more over there. Of course there is the matter of family back in america.
Steve, are you going to review "Fast & Furious 6"? It just had a huge opening weekend:
http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/crowded-memorial-weekend-kick-off-hangover-iii-opens-to-hot-3-1m-late-shows/
Across the military enlisted personnel needed permission to marry...
If the woman is a U.S. citizen, does the serviceman still need permission?
It's really not that complicated: American sailors need permission to marry Filipino hookers.
Those of us who think we need to limit immigration to a reasonable number of people from countries and cultures which are compatible with Western values are racist.
Those who believe that every Third Worlder on the planet should be allowed to come to the US, because they can't imagine how anyone could ever be happy in a country full of [Filipinos/Mexicans/Pakistanis/Etc.], are not.
Got it.
"Steve, are you going to review "Fast & Furious 6"? It just had a huge opening weekend"
Tried to see it twice this weekend, Saturday night and Sunday. On Saturday, only the 12:40am show wasn't sold out, so we got two tickets to that and got some dinner in the meantime. 20 minutes before the show, all the good seats were taken in the theater, so we got vouchers for our tickets and left.
On Sunday night, this was part of the line to get into the 12:20am showing (for those who already waited in line to buy tickets), so we saw Iron Man 3 instead, which was great -- better than the first two.
A not insubstantial fraction of the foreign women trying hardest to immigrate to the U.S. are, to one extent or another, prostitutes.
Doing the work Americans won't do!
That's the important criterion, isn't it?
It's really not that complicated: American sailors need permission to marry Filipino hookers.
But they didn't need permission to declare a baby as their own. They may not get command sponsorship for the area for that tour, but they would still be eligible for State dept recognition.
Well if you name your son "Philander" ..er what do you expect?
I read on various manosphere blogs an apocryphal claim that U.S had rejected visas of some 2 million women from the former Soviet bloc due to pressure from the feminist lobby.This made them furious...more so.
I take what they say with a grain of salt however I am not sure they would quite want that.
They have this foolish notion that Russian and Oriental women are far receptive to betas like themselves.
Poor deluded fools.
Having worked in a private security company with operations in Iraq, I can tell you that most come to Dubai for a bit of R&R. Iraq isnt quite cutting it.Though Im told Erbil is quite a hedonists paradise.
With all these brothers from other mothers in different motherlands courtesy of Rodman and Obama Sr's ,Im reminded of Tyler Durden's reaction to the Narrator background of his father doing the same-
"Fucker is setting up a franchise"
Forget the Fast & Bi-curious movie--when is he going to review "iSteve?"
It's actually arguable that these children of Americans have a more legitimate claim to immigrate to America than illegal Amerindians, H1-Bs, DreamAct types, and all current legal immigration (except for spouses and children of American citizens).
Not just arguable, but seems the right thing to do, imo, not that it should bring a smile to anyone's face.
Otherwise, we're not just condoning bad behavior by our servicemen in foreign lands, but we're party to it.
Mike Judge on the benefit of a STEM diploma
Mr. Sailer, aren't there more pressant issues, like the discrimination against my persecuted coreligionists, that goes on unabated.
This is just another great argument for bringing the boys home and staying the Hell out of the world's business.
"They have this foolish notion that Russian and Oriental women are far receptive to betas like themselves."
It's commong knowledge that East Asian women are more submissive and docile, even though it's getting to the point of controversy of saying it outloud.
Also, what those men want is a dependable woman.
No offence to the "manosphere" but most of those blogs, like krauserpua.com, want women who are intellectually and emotionally inferor.
They present themselves as 'alphas' but can only pick up half-witted and submissive yoga instructors or cashiers - anything else is too scary for those "alphas".
They'd never handle a high-IQ, high-self esteem girl. Which is why they hunt hot, but stupid and weak girls. For their ego. But it still reveals a lot about their internal weakness that they can't handle more.
Those guys wanting to import those women from the FSU and/or philippines and other places are not really different.
I hold little sympathy for them, but they are not really different from the self-proclaimed 'alphas' who also just want weak fodder to fuck and never be challenged by anyone(too scary! must not burst ego bubble by being with women who are your intellectual equal and are not pushovers!).
Mike Judge on the benefit of a STEM diploma
He sounds like Beavis after calming down and trying to sound serious.
My dear Icepick: You hit the bullseye, Mister.
This is a pretty mean spirited article Steve..
These children are often berated in their 'home' countries for being different and then to add insult to injury their fathers are completely out of the picture. It wasn't their fault the most powerful country in the world decided to play war games in their country.
The NY Times will not be satisfied until all of White America becomes gay, adopts black children and America becomes home to the entire Third World.
Kaz said:This is a pretty mean spirited article Steve..
These children are often berated in their 'home' countries for being different and then to add insult to injury their fathers are completely out of the picture. It wasn't their fault the most powerful country in the world decided to play war games in their country.
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Lighten up Kaz. Steve is just an aware, increasingly exasperated guy. Aren't we all?
Like the old lefty bumpersticker says, if you aren't outraged you aren't paying attention.
Great title BTW, Steve. For some reason, in my head the words "America's shortage of whores' bastards" were angrily slurred by former Pogues front man Shane MacGowan. It immediately brought to mind my favorite line from boys from the county hell... he was a miserable bullocks and a bitch's bastard's whore
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It's commong knowledge that East Asian women are more submissive and docile, even though it's getting to the point of controversy of saying it outloud.
... most of those blogs, like krauserpua.com, want women who are intellectually and emotionally inferor.
Actually, in Asia, it's common knowledge that quite a few girls grow up to be dragon ladies - i.e. bossy and domineering.
Some girls are always giggling airheads, no matter how old they get. But Asian airheads get higher math scores (on average) than Western airheads!
"I don't know about now, but back in the late 70s and early 80s, but for an american visiting there, the whole vibe in the Orient was...surrealistic, trippy. Addictive in a way. I don't blame the elder rodman for staying over there instead of going back to the states. His pension is worth more over there."
The elder Rodman is just a famous example of thousands of ex-military expats overseas in places like Pubic Bay, Manila, Bangkok, Puerto Vallarta, Panama City, etc. Even Saigon is recruiting retired military and their pensions. One of the better deals is Malaysia, with government support and an aggressive retiree immigration program. Panama is not bad either, with subsidized utility bills and a US dollar economy. In some of these places you can live pretty well on a government check.
"I hold little sympathy for them, but they are not really different from the self-proclaimed 'alphas' who also just want weak fodder to fuck and never be challenged by anyone(too scary! must not burst ego bubble by being with women who are your intellectual equal and are not pushovers!)."
That may be true for sailors on shore leave looking for LBFMs but these guys are expats. They are living this life for keeps. Go to a local bar in Bangkok and ask, not one of those rub-and-tugs in Patpong Road. Most guys are there with women who still have femininity, sure beats the matronly battleaxe of the corner cubicle you could have here.
Yes. In my time as a team leader I had an 18 y/o soldier who 'fell in love' with a local stripper and decided to get married after three weeks. He couldn't understand why I recommended to the captain to deny his request.
"Most guys are there with women who still have femininity, sure beats the matronly battleaxe of the corner cubicle you could have here."
But that matronly battleaxe and the various bantering fatties and headcases in the American workplace are "high IQ, high self-esteem" women. We faux alphas just can't handle them. And by the way, what does the anonymous feminist commenter have against cashiers and yoga instructors?
This title Immigration reform must solve America's shortage of whores' bastards depth charges any slim chance you had of getting a Pullitzer Steve.
Working, the stories of Manila that an old high school friend brought back way back in the Early Eighties support your feeling of an alternate universe. An eighteen year-old virgin airman stationed in Japan, led through the fleshpots of Manila by the more experienced of his cohort, renting a 16-tear old girl to tend to his every need for the 3-day liberty, all for $20 American. A mind-blowing experience.
Sailer you're brilliant but this headline is not brilliant. The average person seeing this thinks "this ahole believes that little kids should be stigmatized for actions of their parents."
May amuse your core readership but it repels others including the huge number who are basically receptive to your points on immigration.
"The elder Rodman is just a famous example of thousands of ex-military expats overseas in places like Pubic Bay,"
LOL
It's commong knowledge that East Asian women are more submissive and docile, even though it's getting to the point of controversy of saying it outloud.
DVN: They are less confrontational than say Anglo women but they are not really submissive but more graceful and know which battles to pick(which they usually win)
They prefer the iron hand in velvet glove approach.
Also, what those men want is a dependable woman."
DVN: And women want a dependable man, nothing wrong with either.
No offence to the "manosphere" but most of those blogs, like krauserpua.com, want women who are intellectually and emotionally inferor.
DVN: It is probably best that women be in an "inferior" position than they. Nothing good usually comes out of a marriage where the woman is more qualifed or better paid than a man.
They present themselves as 'alphas' but can only pick up half-witted and submissive yoga instructors or cashiers - anything else is too scary for those "alphas".
DVN: Nothing wrong with yoga instructors or cashiers!If more women would marry down than marry yet another woman with a masters in psychology, the world would be a happier place.
They'd never handle a high-IQ, high-self esteem girl. Which is why they hunt hot, but stupid and weak girls. For their ego. But it still reveals a lot about their internal weakness that they can't handle more.
DVN: I know many high IQ girls and most of them are quite pleasant but then again they were brought up without an entitlement attittude and nice to look at.
I doubt you satisfy all these criteria.
Those guys wanting to import those women from the FSU and/or philippines and other places are not really different.
DVN: I dont see the appeal of Filipinas myself but to each their own.
If you want a nice Russian girl ,you are better off marrying one and staying in Russia.Moscow and St Petersburg are pretty nice places.
You bring her to America and she will turn American pretty fast.
And that would lead to Anastasia King type situation!
I hold little sympathy for them, but they are not really different from the self-proclaimed 'alphas' who also just want weak fodder to fuck and never be challenged by anyone(too scary! must not burst ego bubble by being with women who are your intellectual equal and are not pushovers!).
DVN: They dont women to possess traits that are associated with masculinity-intellect,economic success and physical strength. The monsters!
Would you be comfortable dating a guy who looks better than you in a calvin Klein black dress, manohlo blahniks and kate spade bag ?
You seem to have mistaken me for anti manosphere guy. You are only half correct. I loathe the PUA aspects of the manosphere- libertinism as an end itself sickens me.
However I do sympathize with men getting screwed over by the fem centred economy,government,academia,culture and courts.
Jack Hanson said...
Yes. In my time as a team leader I had an 18 y/o soldier who 'fell in love' with a local stripper and decided to get married after three weeks. He couldn't understand why I recommended to the captain to deny his request."
Bravo Jack.Good on you. That idiot boy will thank you one day.
I cant help LOLing though, the military has become Indian parents by proxy and thats a good thing
Steve Sailer said...
There are reasons of nurture and nature why words like "bastard" and "whore" have the connotations that they do."
Exactly. If we start (re) using such harsh words such undesirable behaviors and situations, we will have less of them.
It may be cruel to the little bastards and whore mothers but by referring to them as such will set an example for others.
"A not insubstantial fraction of the foreign women trying hardest to immigrate to the U.S. are, to one extent or another, prostitutes."
As an American born woman, let me say that although a whole lot of those women may be selling themselves for a visa it doesn't necessarily follow that they are innately whores. A lot of these women live in absolute hellholes where they are often in grave danger and they are trying to escape by any means necessary. Many of them, once they achieve their goal of getting out, are happy to retire.
Still I wouldn't want a male family member or friend, or any man that I cared about to be involved with that kind of woman. Even if some of them quit their whoring ways there's no guarantee.
And as for the fake alphas who somehow don't understand that a whole lot of foreign women are swooning over their citizenship rather than their Game, well let's leave them in peace because their egos will in all likelihood prevent them from seeing the truth.
Gloria
DVN: Nothing wrong with yoga instructors or cashiers!If more women would marry down than marry yet another woman with a masters in psychology, the world would be a happier place.
oops I meant if more MEN would marry down..obviously...
The writer of this article is Filipino. No surprise that he wants more of his own kind in the country.
It is funny that Steve Sailer posted this story when Steve doesnt acknowledge the following when making articles talking about interracial marriages (and the disparity)
1) Warbrides (Women married to US military men during times of war)
2) Military Marriages (Women married to US servicemen due to a military presence i.e. US bases/installations such as those in the Philippines)
3) Mail-Order brides
4) Asian Adoptees (Mostly female children adopted by US families and raised in predominately White neighborhoods)
But according to him, none of the hundreds of thousand of marriages between US men + Asian women would have any effect on the #'s of interracial marriages in the US ...
The story makes me feel sorry for all these Filipinos who are so poor that sleeping with repulsive foreign crud like this Philander is thought of as being a possible option in return for whatever pennies he might throw their way. That he has so many children just shows how desperate they must be over there. Having a child like that can only make life harder for the mothers who sure can't expect much from the baby daddy. No wonder coming to the US is seen by so many as a way out.
Exactly. If we start (re) using such harsh words such undesirable behaviors and situations, we will have less of them.
It may be cruel to the little bastards and whore mothers but by referring to them as such will set an example for others.
I suspect that until the Government and the political classes stop buying votes by supporting such people, things will not change.
If you provide perverse incentives (with more than subsistence money) do not be surprised if you get more such perverse behavior.
angrily slurred by former Pogues front man Shane MacGowan
The slurred is unnecessary when describing the speech of Shane MacGowan.
An eighteen year-old virgin airman stationed in Japan, led through the fleshpots of Manila by the more experienced of his cohort, renting a 16-tear old girl to tend to his every need for the 3-day liberty, all for $20 American. A mind-blowing experience.
Well, SOMETHING got blown, but I don't know about minds....
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Man, there's nothing like the sound of a shotgun blasting away at fish in a barrel in the morning. And that smell, that salty, spent gunpowder smell .... smells like ... commenting!
Still I wouldn't want a male family member or friend, or any man that I cared about to be involved with that kind of woman.
That largely kills the impact of the first paragraph of your comment.
And as for the fake alphas who somehow don't understand that a whole lot of foreign women are swooning over their citizenship rather than their Game
There's a real easy way for a guy to deal with that: move over there. If you're convinced that half the US population is made up of unbearable harpies, why would you want to stay here and pay taxes to support them all anyway? Move to a country that offers pleasant women and a lower cost of living, where your American skills and dollars will go farther. Then if a woman wants to marry you, you'll know it's not for a green card divorce.
Of course, to do that, you'll have to find a country that will let you in to stay; but that shouldn't be hard. Since we're constantly assured that US immigration laws are so draconian, I'm sure other countries are much more enlightened and will wave you right through.
This title Immigration reform must solve America's shortage of whores' bastards depth charges any slim chance you had of getting a Pullitzer Steve.
LOL. I think that the non-negligible chance of Tyler Cowen intentionally going for the triple bank shot pro-immigration argument is several orders of magnitude greater than Steve's chances of getting a Pulitzer.
I'd be interested in hearing the scenarios in which Steve wins a Pulitzer. It's awarded by Columbia University, which is a fairly liberal university, AFAIK. So even if there is a tectonic shift in terms of racial conservative political awakening, Columbia still remains strongly liberal. And it would need to be something Steve has written in the same year, i.e. this could not be awarded posthumously or even in his later years.
The oldest Pulitzer winner was 83. Steve is 54. So that kind of gives him 29 more years, at most. Possible? A black man had a greater chance of being president of the USA. A black man possibly has a greater chance of winning a world chess championship. This is not through lack of merit though, this is just the situation.
I don't have a problem if these kids are born in matrimony. However the idea that the USA should extend citizenship to the illegitimate overseas children of the likes of Pappa Rodman.
I pine for the days when our laws reflected common sense truths about the human condition as opposed to the fantasy world of the NY Times i
"Anonymous said...
Sailer you're brilliant but this headline is not brilliant. The average person seeing this thinks "this ahole believes that little kids should be stigmatized for actions of their parents."
May amuse your core readership but it repels others including the huge number who are basically receptive to your points on immigration."
You many not realize this, but stigmatizing people for bad behavior - and, yes, that often also effected the children who resulted from such bad behavior - used to be the norm. And such stigmatization is the only way to actually prevent such behavior from becoming commonplace.
The NY Times will not be satisfied until all of White America becomes gay, adopts black children and America becomes home to the entire Third World.
New York is the immirgant city, so immirgation is how it grows and that why the New York Times loves immirgation. Its the Republicans that are bigger fools than Dems. The Republicans got whites to support them in the South by going against minority AA but its the Republicans starting with Ronnie Reagan who vastly incrase the immirgation from Mexico. They did not protest white interest which have recently hurt them.
American citizenship laws have changed numerous times over the decades. If memory serves, an illegitimate child has never qualified as a legal dependent - which is why, some years ago, Jamaica moved to declare all children "legitimate" (sort of like "no human is illegal"). American men used to be able to pass on citizenship to their children with a foreign wife, but not American women. As I said, the laws have gone through numerous permutations and there have always been exceptions.
Gloria, while you may have personal sympathy, personal anecdotes and/or exceptions don't make for good policy, foreign or domestic. I recall one American at one particular Embassy who was in a sensitive position (think codes/telegrams) who was married to an LBFM former bar-girl from the Canal Zone (or, as other diplomats wondered, "Who's the little girl with the big (sylicone) titties?"
I, for one, don't give a rat's patootie about these kids. Let them rot in their stinking hell holes along with their mothers.
I. Don't. Care.
"They have this foolish notion that Russian and Oriental women are far receptive to betas like themselves." - even if they aren't, bringing them here lowers the value of the women here that are already citizens. Now if only there was some way we could make the feminists extend their self interest to every American and not just women only.
There is an interesting "evo-psych" aspect here.
That is, women know that some men can be manipulated with sex. Unfortunately, the highest quality men are not so manipulable.
> There are reasons of nurture and nature why words
> like "bastard" and "whore" have the connotations that
> they do.
I am may be over-analyzing, but your tone seems to lack of awareness of European class-based snobbery underlying some of those connotations. I believe these class-based connotations are somewhat separate from "nature and nurture" as discussed by evolutionary psychological theory, which often refers to elements of culture that are common to all of humanity.
Some connotations of bastard:
- Unreliable
- Not invested in society
- Prone to violence and drinking
- Disloyal
- Cunning
- Low class ("illegitimate" has long been a more usual word for higher born bastards)
Some connotations of whore:
- Cheap
- Aging
- Used up
- Prone to drunkenness
- Exploited (probably there is a pimp or a madam in the picture; not a self-employed escort)
- Shameless
- Objects of scorn
- Low class (even relative to higher status members of the profession, who are often called "prostitutes," or many other words)
Do I detect in your tone that you are denying that there are other important factors giving rise to the connotations
"No offence to the "manosphere" but most of those blogs, like krauserpua.com, want women who are intellectually and emotionally inferor.
They present themselves as 'alphas' but can only pick up half-witted and submissive yoga instructors or cashiers - anything else is too scary for those "alphas"."
Anonymous, most of the men searching for intellectually inferior women are not at the top of the bell curve themselves. Their quest for dumb, pliable women is no great loss for society. Let them be- anyone truly intelligent realizes the value of having intelligent children, at the least.
Also I'm not so sure that cashiers and yoga instructors are more likely to be submissive. Submissiveness as a personality trait has little to do with IQ. Plenty of dumb women are absolute harridans. Just as some dumb men have more practical social dominance than intelligent men.
Dr Van Nostrand said:If we start (re) using such harsh words such undesirable behaviors and situations, we will have less of them.
It may be cruel to the little bastards and whore mothers but by referring to them as such will set an example for others.
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Absolutely, DVN.
It's funny how when it comes to the environment, today's progressives love the old Iroquois idea of considering the impact of one's decisions for the next 7 generations.
When it comes to thinking about the FAMILY, an inherently multigenerational concern, progs blanch at the thought of making decisions based on anything more than the fleeting emotions of a single generation.
It goes without saying that our absurd, destructive demographic policies are driven by equally short-sighted thinking.
-The Judean People's Front
Practice does not make perfect:
http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/15813/20130522/practice-make-perfect-chess-music-study-working-memory-capacity.htm
What do you call Muslims in Western cities?
Turbanites.
Big LOL at "Rodman-American".
I still think "Sam Bilbo - what is he? Hobbit-American?" was the best one though.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151609330879749&set=a.10150091776499749.280771.143666524748&type=1&theater
Not only seeing KKK everywhere but Hitler too.
Sailer, you must apologize to all the bastard offspring of all the prostitutes around American bases overseas!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=309578035843342&set=a.142495135884967.28733.141145602686587&type=1
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/05/new_evidence_shows_trayvons_life_unraveling.html#.UaS-dynftV4.facebook
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
I wonder... suppose if Zimmermanez had been an illegal who shot dead a white thug. He might be hailed as a hero who defended himself against a 'xenophobe'.
There are reasons of nurture and nature why words like "bastard" and "whore" have the connotations that they do.
People have always had kids out of wedlock. Fornication and adultery used to be a lot more secretive because of the stigma attached. But it's always been there, out of sight, like a bastard child.
Another way to challenge the immigrationistas, which occurred to me after vibrancy erupted in London the other day - was Lee Rigby's life worth the Nigerian immigration to Britain over the past x years? Is his life a price worth paying for everything that Nigerian immigrants have brought to the country? Think carefully before you answer and please be prepared to show your working, because if you think it is then people will be be interested in how and why you think so.
Many variants are possible of course. Were the best years of the lives of Gina DeJesus, Amanda Berry and Michelle Knight a price worth paying for "Hispanic" immigration to Cleveland? Were the lives of Krystle Campbell, Lu Lingzi, Martin Richard and Sean Collier a price worth paying for Chechen immigration to the USA? Pose the questions directly. See what the leftists' answers are.
As a high IQ single guy, I'm hoping to find a high IQ woman. I've tried ultra feminine and not as bright. Yes some are very sweet but that's not enough for me. Eventually all women lose their youthful looks (as do men) and I don't want to be spending my end days trapped with some woman that only wants to watch reruns of the Bachelor and House Wives of New Jersey. Or some woman who wants to spend weekends shopping. I also don't want a bunch of dipshit kids. I don't eat gourmet cuisine so I don't need some woman making me a sandwich. And in my experience, smart women have no problem cooking for me anyway. Some really enjoy it.
The NYT article mentions Pinky, whose name reminds one of Jinky (Young). A Filipina gal who was claimed to be Bobby Fischer's daughter. They had to exhume poor Fischer for DNA samples to prove otherwise. Kinky!
"As a high IQ single guy, I'm hoping to find a high IQ woman. I've tried ultra feminine and not as bright. Yes some are very sweet but that's not enough for me. Eventually all women lose their youthful looks (as do men) and I don't want to be spending my end days trapped with some woman that only wants to watch reruns of the Bachelor and House Wives of New Jersey."
Just find a nice girl, fool.
Sure, you don't wanna marry a total dummy but I don't see what's so great about marrying someone with high IQ. They are pesty, way too talkative, have an opinion on everything, snide and sarcastic, and etc.
Billy Boy Clinton would have been happier with a nice southern gal than that hideous bitch witch high IQ Hillary.
Why was Vito Corleone happy? His wife stood by his side.
Just have lots of kids.
If you have high IQ and the woman doesn't, and if you have 4 kids, chances are one will be smart like you, two will be normal, and one might be not so smart, like Fredo. But one out of four aint bad.
Smart women generally don't wanna have lots of kiddlers.
I wonder what prescience led the parents of Philander Rodman to christen him with that name?
Had my parents had such foresight I'd be going through life as Monogamous Baldwin.
I'm dating an Asian American cashier right now, I am having the best time of my life. She is feminine, submissive and cooks meals for me. What the heck more could I possibly want in a woman?
Definitely lower IQ, lower pay, weaker personality than me. And she has a major inferiority complex with regard to her career. Thanks, feminism.
Ok, so you will probably produce effeminate, submissive, lower IQ, servile half-caste children with an inferiority complex. That's your legacy. Is that what you really want? I sure as hell don't.
I'm proud my grandchildren are going to resemble me and have a lot of my attributes.
I have a different opinion regarding American women as compared to Asian women.
Contrary to the complaints in the "manosphere" American women are not feminist at all -- far from it. Don't be misled by a vocal minority in the liberal media, they only represent 5-10% of American women. You may be surprised to learn that American women are quite traditional, and adhere to traditional gender roles, by and large. In Hollywood, all romantic comedies reinforce very traditional gender roles. This isn't the former Soviet Union or Asia, where women study math and science, for example; reports show that American women completely avoid these subjects and have conservative preferences in career and marriage.
I looked at some online dating sites and came to the startling conclusion that after the age of 35, roughly half of white American women have been married or have kids (in other words, white women don't delay marriage); but the figures are much lower among ethnic women, such Asians, who are childless and single for longer, and are more urban.
This idea that American women are feminists or liberal completely distorts the truth because America is, at its core, a conservative/right-wing country, in some ways MORE so than Asians or Eastern-Europeans. Yes, surprisingly, the New World is more conservative than today's Old World.
"It's commong knowledge that East Asian women are more submissive and docile, even though it's getting to the point of controversy of saying it outloud."
It's not common knowledge as much as a popular falsehood abetted by the naivete of Western men.
Then again their sample set is most likely skewed by the fact that the Asian women they date tend to be closer to the bottom of the barrel in terms of looks and accomplishments.
Believe me - the Shanghaignese and Singaporean girls I've known are anything but submissive or docile.
Naw, man, T-paw always wrapped his rascal, sometimes double bagged it. Most people don't know this, but in addition to his time in the Navy (as an ENLISTED MAN! working for his wages!), the T-paw is a huge fan of Dr. Strangelove. He wasn't worried about catching nothing, because of that Norhoovian immunity to disease that he picked up from his time in the 'sota.
One time we were deep in our cups and he told me that the only man who could beat T-paw was T-paw junior, and damned if he wanted to die at the hands of a half-Flip T-paw Junior.
The Strangelove thing, that was mostly because he had a man-crush on Slim Pickens (no homo, bro) for riding the big one all the way down at the end, but it gave him all the excuse he needed to wrap his rascal when he was wrecking the working girls. (Like a whale, that man's hung, I swear.) The whole bit about preserving his vital bodily essences was just an excuse.
I think it was some kind of Arthur-Mordred thing.
And you know what? T-paw ALWAYS bought for us. I mean, folks laugh about the pimp knife story, but he always bought us beer, and that means something.
Anonymous who had things to say regarding my children's genetic endowment:
1. Quality of life is influenced by your wife's personality these days. A strong willed high IQ career gal harpy will either make your life hell or divorce you. Unless you are satisfied playing second fiddle, like Sheryl Sandberg's house husband.
2. Before feminism, I would have gladly chosen the high IQ woman, assuming she looked jus as good and was equally feminine. She would have put those attributes to good use. That is no longer the case. High IQ women are likelier to be readers of jezebel.com.
3. Your choice of adjectives to describe my children are bad only when they are male children.
4. My stories are based on personal experiences. Two uncles married high IQ strong willed career gal doctors, both got divorced, both went through 10years of hell because the tankgrrl wanted to "focus on her career".
It's commong knowledge that East Asian women are more submissive and docile, even though it's getting to the point of controversy of saying it outloud.
This is one of those cases where the "common knowledge" is wrong. It's true that in some East Asian cultures the women are less demonstrative in public, but the men are too.
If you wanted a submissive woman and found one, well, great for you. But generalizing on this point is a mistake.
Don't be misled by a vocal minority in the liberal media, they only represent 5-10% of American women.
Yeah, also there's a big gap between expressed opinion and demonstrated action. On facebook, my 26-year-old daughter is always posting about what a feminist she is, but you should see her scurry to make sure the house is neat and the laundry done before her husband gets home.
Yes, I'm proud of her.
"Yeah, also there's a big gap between expressed opinion and demonstrated action."
Exactly. I can't tell you how many women I've worked with have spouted the girl power line about how when they have kids, they'll be right back at work because they are not the stay at home type. Low and behold, once the baby comes they decide that they don't really give a shit about work anymore and they wish they could be home more with the kids. If they come back at all, it's usually only part time. This is a job that pays over 100k a year full time. It's not investment banking, but it's enough to keep a feminist bitch motivated. And it's still not enough once they have kids.
"Just find a nice girl, fool."
That's certainly reasonable advice. My general point is not all high IQ women are the man hating battle axes they are being depicted as. I'm not sure that even the majority are. I know plenty of women with Phds and MDs that are quite pleasant.
I also really don't understand the obsession some guys have about women cooking for them. As if only dumb women like cooking. Maybe some poor foreign women cook because they are poor and can't afford to eat out. With so many cooking shows on, I know plenty of smart American women that LOVE cooking for people.
If western civilization is to carry on, there needs to be a meeting in the middle between western men and women. Western men shouldn't be looking to outsource the baby making to foreigners any more than corporations should outsource labor. There are no magical women in foreign lands just waiting for American men to scoop them up. Are American women perfect? No. But American men aren't either. Be a man and tame an American woman.
1. Quality of life is influenced by your wife's personality these days. A strong willed high IQ career gal harpy will either make your life hell or divorce you. Unless you are satisfied playing second fiddle, like Sheryl Sandberg's house husband.
2. Before feminism, I would have gladly chosen the high IQ woman, assuming she looked jus as good and was equally feminine. She would have put those attributes to good use. That is no longer the case. High IQ women are likelier to be readers of jezebel.com.
3. Your choice of adjectives to describe my children are bad only when they are male children.
4. My stories are based on personal experiences. Two uncles married high IQ strong willed career gal doctors, both got divorced, both went through 10years of hell because the tankgrrl wanted to "focus on her career".
1. Yes, you are right to varying extents. I have a strong willed wife, and I argue with her. We have heated discussions sometimes, but in general I have a good marriage. There are more times than one when she has been right, and my IQ is certainly higher (though she is still above average). This means that as a result we come to better decisions through discussions.
I know my grandparents had lots of arguments too. It probably runs in the family. It's probably why I comment on threads half the time - I read until I find something I disagree with and respond. On the Asian-White-Black continuum, you get a continuum of argumentativeness in marriages.
One thing I have to say is that while Asian women can be attractive, there is something attractive about a feisty woman, one with a bit of spark, a bit of spunk, a bit of assertiveness. A doormat is not attractive. I'm not talking about a bossy, overbearing hag. That's too far. There is a happy medium.
And even before I had any racial awakening as such, something always gave me second thoughts about marrying an Asian woman. I want a son like me - a son who might excel at combat sports such as wrestling, or athletics, while also being capable of being a great engineer. This would tend to rule out Asian or black partners.
And I wanted kids who would look like me, mostly. If I married out of my race I would feel like I was the end of the line, that I was choosing a personal or familial extinction, if you will.
2. There are high IQ women out there who will be good mothers. I think many men are just intimidated by beautiful, high IQ women. I know I was. But the number of high IQ, high mothering instinct women will surely grow in years to come as the purely sexual/career oriented women prove to be evolutionary dead ends (as two such generations have now been culled since the advent of the contraceptive pill).
3. True, but male children are a 50% probability and female children will transfer their genes to your grandsons. This is not to say that Chinese or Japanese DNA has been ineffective (their countries are testament that they are doing something right, something more right than African nations), but I just know what traits I want in my children. And you want them in your male children too, or you wouldn't have said what you've said.
4. There's a lot to be said for selecting the appropriate partner. What a person probably would want is a woman who has the smarts to be a doctor but would not really have her heart in it. In her heart, she wants the kids.
"Another way to challenge the immigrationistas, which occurred to me after vibrancy erupted in London the other day - was Lee Rigby's life worth the Nigerian immigration to Britain over the past x years? Is his life a price worth paying for everything that Nigerian immigrants have brought to the country?"
In conversation with my son, at university in London, I remarked that on balance black immigration to the UK had probably been negative for the country. Note the "probably" - I was being fairer than I think.
He was horrified that I could even think such a thing. Shares a house with a (perfectly nice) black guy.
"Dad - do you say those kind of things at work?"
"I'm not daft, son"
Still, he's young. I hope he never thinks about raising kids in London, unless he's on a six or seven figure salary.
These children are often berated in their 'home' countries for being different and then to add insult to injury their fathers are completely out of the picture. It wasn't their fault the most powerful country in the world decided to play war games in their country.
It's not our fault, either.
Dr Van Nostrand said..."Jack Hanson said...
Yes. In my time as a team leader I had an 18 y/o soldier who 'fell in love' with a local stripper and decided to get married after three weeks. He couldn't understand why I recommended to the captain to deny his request."
Bravo Jack.Good on you. That idiot boy will thank you one day.
I cant help LOLing though, the military has become Indian parents by proxy and thats a good thing""
I was a USMC officer in the late 80's and early '90s. The Corps has always been more...paternal about our young Marines than other US services are with their junior enlisted (at least from my view).
It was fairly common for a young Marine to ask his CO (assuming his Sgt couldn't knock sense into him) for permission to marry some whore/stripper and be denied. Why? It's bad for morale for the Corps to let these kids ruin their lives. In fact I think some LT or CPT allowing a Marine to marry one would be bad for said officer's career.
@ Anonymous 5/29/13, 10:38 AM-
Wow, your son was aghast at that extremely mild statement of fact?
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