October 19, 2010

The Land of the Defunct Empires

From my column in VDARE:
The F.B.I.  announced charges last week against 73 Armenian gangsters, almost  half of them in the  Los Angeles area, for running the largest Medicare fraud in history.

Or—to be strictly accurate—the largest the FBI yet knows about.

The indictment alleged that most of the defendants were "were Armenian nationals or immigrants and many maintained substantial ties to Armenia." They laundered their ill-gotten gains in Las Vegas casinos and/or couriered them back to Armenia.

Michael J. Gaeta, head of the New York F.B.I. office’s Russian Organized Crime Squad, explained: “New York and the U.S., to them it’s a big pot of gold, and they’re coming after it. And with the world getting smaller, it’s much easier for them to do it.”

Among the arrested: Armen Kazarian of the pleasant LA suburb of Glendale, who drives a $350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom. Kazarian is only the second “vor” (the ex-Soviet equivalent of a godfather) yet charged in the U.S. 

I’d never previously heard the term “vor” but I must say, it has a ring to it—like capo di tutti capi or Keyser Söze.

Why was Kazarian in this country in the first place? He was granted asylum in the U.S. in 1996. But he subsequently returned frequently to Armenia to oversee his transcontinental criminal doings.

Naturally, this got me thinking about TV crime dramas.

Law & Order has been the most successful drama in American television history. Counting its countless spinoffs, about 900 hour-long episodes have aired. L&O’s two-decade old formula has been to take a scandal from the news, add a murder, and then show that the richest, whitest, and most conservative character dunnit.

This year, however, NBC shut down the New York-based flagship show and substituted Law & Order: Los Angeles. ... The Wednesday, October 20 episode “Sylmar” will explore the national security threat posed by ... blue-eyed, blonde Americans who espouse extremist Islam:
Deputy District Attorney: “An All-American jihadi terrorist cell …”

Assistant District Attorney: “With enough explosives to take down the Staples Center!”

You can't make this stuff up. (Or, at least, I can't.)

Read the whole thing there and comment upon it below.


82 comments:

stari_momak said...

A Hodža [Hodja] is an Islamic cleric in the Balkans -- a sort of minister/parish priest. Not far removed from the people. I've seen it translated as 'Imam', but that's not quite it. The former leader of Albania was Enver Hoxha, sounds exactly the same as Hodža. Cheree most likely had an ancestor whose given name was Osman, and who was a low-level cleric. This is pretty common in Bosnian Muslim names -- Alija Izetbegovic, for example, had ancestors who were large landowners -- begs, or beys -- no doubt one was named Izet. My favorite Bosnian family name is Čengić [Tchengtich] , a quite prosperous extended family who claimed descent from Gengiz [you can see the resemblance in sound] Khan.

Anonymous said...

Offtopic:

White women overwhelmingly prefer White men:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/10/female-race-consciousness-as-prudence/

"The results are striking. An African-American man would have to earn $154,000 more than a white man in order for a white woman to prefer him. A Hispanic man would need to earn $77,000 more than a white man, an Asian man would need, remarkably, an additional $247,000 in additional annual income."

Anonymous said...

Law & Order.

Someone needs to go through all those 900 hours of L & O and match each episode (where applicable) to the real world story it is based on.

It would be instructive to see, statistically, just how often certain ethnic identities have been changed and from who to whom.. We can all see occaisional examples of this. The key to blowing their agenda would be the systematic revealing of the degree of the manipulation.

Anyone can point to an example and have it dismissed as a one off, it 'just happened to be' that turned a black killer into a white, a white victim in to a black.

If one could point to 100 examples of this and not a single counter example, what on earth could the defence be?

dearieme said...

Do you have lots of Albanians, Steve? Some people think that they've not been an unmixed blessing in Western Europe.

fwood1 said...

The FX series THE SHIELD had plot lines dealing with the Armenian Mob in Los Angeles.

korf said...

"Vor" is merely Russian for "thief". The correct term for "godfather" is "Vor v zakone".

David said...

Hmmm... what unites blond-haired blue-eyed gentiles and Muslims in joint villainy, in the eyes of Hollywood and, yes, of our government at least on the federal level?

Oy - I guess it's a mystery we'll never solve.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I've noticed the tendency of TV crime shows to "whitewash" criminality as far back as "The Streets of San Francisco." A hefty chunk of crime in the majority white Bay Area of the 1970's was certainly being committed by the Brothers and Amigos, but you wouldn't know it from this dumb show which shamelessly wasted the talents of Karl Malden. The young punk parts were almost always white teenagers.

Rockford Files was more honest, which is why it was the best show on TV at that time; and many of the convoluted plots, which seemed fantastic to 1970's middle American TV viewers, now seem like they were indeed ripped out of the headlines of a future LA. (Sad to hear about the recent death of Stephen J. Cannell, the shows co-creator.) In the 1980's, Hill Street Blues was fairly honest about the demography of disorganized crime and the problems minority officers had passing promotion exams.

Drawbacks said...

Never heard the word vor before? You should read Misha Glenny's McMafia - your kind of book.

Anonymous said...

Steve Sailer: Yet growing up in the Soviet gangster state seems to have inculcated gangster values in some of them.

C'mon Steve - this is a self-styled HBD site.

You have to at least give lip service to de Custine's hypothesis: That their underlying gangster-ish nature was precisely what laid the foundation for the Soviet police state.

Steve Sailer: Among the immigrants from the Land of the Defunct Empires, Armenians make up an increasingly small fraction. Yet they remain the most prototypical...

The ubiquity of Kim Kardashian's posterior might have something to do with forming the image of the prototype in the public mind.

Steve Sailer: A famous white football star who decapitates his black wife?

Speaking of the Kardashian family - it's getting to be remarkably difficult to find any evidence on the internet of Robert Kardashian's role in "laundering" the garment bag after OJ's return from the Chicago Hertz convention.

For instance, this old CNN story ends abruptly with the words: "The man with the bag".

Weird.

Almost as if the record had been expunged...

PS: The NY Times archives mention the garment bag [and the assertion of privilege] here.

Anselmus said...

The term "vor" by itself means only "a thief". The russian equivalent of "capo di tutti capi" is "vor v zakone", translated as "thief in law". The guy judges certain conflicts in Russian Mafia.

Anonymous said...

Not that it matters but: "vor" means simply "thief" in Russian. The godfather-like figure would be "vor v zakone" ("thief in law", meaning an established, respected criminal who took up a life of crime once and for all).

wmhde said...

AMC's Rubicon has struggled to attract more than 1 mil viewers. The main terrorist is a white, Euro descent NJ convert to Islam called Joseph Purcell.

Oh the plotters behind some terrorist attacks are a group of rich WASPs who have kbnown each other since childhood. They have names like James Wheeler and Trexton Spangler.

Anonymous said...

The Armenians, as you've previously noted, have a reputation for being more cerebral than average. Being relative newcomers they made the mistake of being in too big a hurry to score big, thus drawing attention from the authorities. The established way to rip off Medicare is through the tried and true routine of padding bills, adding unnecessary services and increasing the volume of visits. However, one has to be at least semi-legit and credentialed to do so. The money scammed is slower but steady through the years. These foreign interlopers are just too grubby and bring the heat on everyone, including the politer crooks.

Justin said...

Will they outlast us? I get the impression that 10,000 years from now the continent will be populated exclusively by 400 pound Samoans...

Bantam said...

OT, maybe...

Steve, were you expressing publicly such a nice statement, would it take more than a couple of hours before your site looked like this?

Anonymous said...

The quintessential Los Angeles crime of the last five years has to be the rise and fall of Maria Leon, the alien queen of Glassell Park, popping out her 13 gangster kids to terrorize the neighborhood until one of them ended up shooting it out with the cops.

Let's see if L&O LA touches it with a ten foot pole.

Mitch said...

As someone who has watched all the L&O franchises religiously since 1991 (except SVU, which is a bit soap-opera-y), I have to say you are flatly incorrect about them always blaming rich white people.

For example, the Michael Jackson ripoff looked like a cheap out--they made the character a white comedian--but the actual villains were the Hispanic parents who sold their boy for sex for the payoff.

As for the defunct empires, good lord. I was learning about the Russian Mafia in Brighton Beach back in the early 90s, the Romanian thugs in the mid-90s, and about the Armenians in the early oughts (L&O CI has done several episodes on it).

It's quite common for the villain to be Hispanic or black, and some of the most sympathetic killers have been white boys whose mothers deserted them.

The reason L&O has been around for so long is because they don't have easy villains. (One of the ADAs was actually a Republican--she's now playing Rizzoli on that new cable show). The characters are usually liberal, but the situations run the gamut.

One of my favorite examples of this is the Jayson Blair knockoff episode. The Blair guy (black) was refusing a deal, taking it to trial, making it all about the guilt blacks feel about affirmative action. It was playing well with the jury and he looked to be getting off. (the lawyer of this episode is brilliant, he's the short Jewish ex-plastic surgeon on House).

McCoy looked deeper into the story and called a meeting, saying he was adding a witness to the list. Apparently the bad guy was in Greenwich, CT, the morning of the murder, and he was going to call "Ms Lynn Danziger" or whoever to the stand. The Blair character instantly folds, to the surprise of his lawyer, saying "make a deal".

The lawyer comes up to Jack in the bar, says "Mano a mano. She wasn't going to implicate my guy." McCoy, "Nope." "Then why were you going to call her? Did you know anything about her?"

McCoy, "Not a thing." Pause. "I do know, however, that I'm barely white enough to live in Greenwich."

So not only was the black guy the murderer but he was an opportunist who was exploiting the "black guilt" approach--and he folded because he knew he couldn't get away with that line if he had a white girlfriend. More to the point, McCoy knew it.

L&O does everything. There are rarely easy answers--certainly not on the best episode.s

corvinus said...

Obviously, Cheree married a Bosnian Muslim named Hadziosmanovic who came over in the 1990s, got divorced, and then met with this tragic accident shortly before her second wedding.

My favorite Bosnian family name is Čengić [Tchengtich] , a quite prosperous extended family who claimed descent from Gengiz [you can see the resemblance in sound] Khan.

Most Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Tatars, and even Russians (given that Genghis had red hair and gray eyes) are likely descendants of the Great Khan.

some other name said...

I'd like to know what the average period of discovery is for medicare/caid fraud. It might be something that downwardly mobile boomers might want to get into as they approach their '70's.

Anonymous said...

Armenians seem to be more rational than other ethnic groups.

Armenians are more focused on reproductive success. Wealthy Armenians in the US tend to have large numbers of children, and propogate their genes successfully in to the future.

Wealthy Ashkenazi, on the other hand, often subscribe to the competitive altruism meme. For example, Gerald Levin had a net worth in the hundreds of millions. In his circle of super wealthy Asheknazi, status and prestige comes from sending your children to sacrifice themselves helping "disadvantaged minorities".

So if Gerald Levin had been Armenian, his son would have married young and produced a large number of grandchildren for him. Since Gerald Levin was Ashkenazi his son pursued altruism and was killed by a "disadvantaged" minority.

Look at the large numbers of young Ashkenazi that join teach for America or the peace corps. Look at the vanishingly small number of Armenians.

Both Ashkenazi and Armenians went through similar experiences as a people, exile, diaspora, etc. but they reacted in different ways.

Can others confirm to me that the whole "competitive altruism" meme is lacking among US Armenians?

Peter A said...

"Vor" is just the Russian word for "thief". I suspect the journalist is being misled.

wmhde said...

Rubicon, AMC’s low ratings intelligence thriller has a white, blond hair convert to Islam whose original name was Joseph Purcell carrying out the terrorist attack.

The organizers of the attack are a bunch of WASPs orchestrating the attack for financial gain. They have known each other since childhood. They have names like Trexton Spangler, and James Wheeler.

Darwyn al-Sayeed said...

Law & Order: Los Angeles. ... The Wednesday, October 20 episode “Sylmar” will explore the national security threat posed by ... blue-eyed, blonde Americans who espouse extremist Islam:Deputy District Attorney: “An All-American jihadi terrorist cell …”

Showtime did this one better with their series Sleeper Cell. The domestic Islamic terrorist group was primarily evil whites (a blonde all-American guy, a brunette translucent Balkan guy) and of course, the hero, an American black Muslim working undercover for the FBI.

The second season jumped the shark with even more implausible cell members "including a white European woman, a Latino-American man and, in a first for American television, a gay Muslim man".

Outside young Muslim men, the only domestic Muslim terrorists I've heard of were either black or hispanic young men. I guess this is why shows like the Wire are considered so edgy.

Anonymous said...

To put a fine point on it, Norwegians and some others live by the rules of "competitive out group altruism"

Armenians, both at home and in the diaspora, have no competitive out group altruism at all, as far as I can tell

Whiskey said...

Steve, outstanding column.

BUT ... WHY is TV so uber-liberal? After all, entertainment moved from "Birth of a Nation," arguably a racist, Klan-glorifying silent movie, to mostly stolid middle class values on TV during the 50's through the 1970's, to very uber-PC from the nineties onward.

IMHO, TV is so terminally uber-pc because its so feminine.

Laban said...

The BBC has a popular TV drama called Spooks, in which week after week the intelligence services do battle against the major threats to the UK - white supremacists, Israelis, pro-lifers, Hindu terrorists, extremist Christians (really), occasional evil multinationals.

Langobard said...

To put a fine point on it, Norwegians and some others live by the rules of "competitive out group altruism"

Armenians, both at home and in the diaspora, have no competitive out group altruism at all, as far as I can tell


The late Wilmot Robertson was right about how certain ethnic groups of people are rather unnassimilable in our society -- even though they may be "technically 'White".

The Dispossessed Majority indeed!

Anonymous said...

Langobard, thaks for your comment. I think competitive IN GROUP altruism can be very healthy for a society, but I think we can all agree that competitive OUT GROUP altruism is deadly.

Danes are famously altruistic towards other Danes, and Denmark is by some measures the happiest place in the world. At the same time Danes are NO LONGER competitive altruists with regard to out group immigration.

To put a fine point on it, when muslim immigrants rape and pillage in Norway, the reaction of the Norwegian government is to allow increasing numbers to immigrate. When the muslim immigrants do the same thing in Denmark, the reaction of the Danish government is to close the borders.

Langobard what the heck is the difference between a Norwegian and a Dane? Aren't they racially very similar and culturally similar? What accounts for this difference.

And what was the ethnic background of Amy Biehl's parents? What is the ethnic background that produces most of the affluent Americans that sacrifice their children for "out group altruism"?

Anonymous said...

"This year, however, NBC shut down the New York-based flagship show and substituted Law & Order: Los Angeles. ... The Wednesday, October 20 episode “Sylmar” will explore the national security threat posed by ... blue-eyed, blonde Americans who espouse extremist Islam."

Hollywood suffers from a serious case of anti-aryanitism.

Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that the badass brotha in TRUE ROMANCE was also a white guy(acting black)?

corvinus said...

To put a fine point on it, when muslim immigrants rape and pillage in Norway, the reaction of the Norwegian government is to allow increasing numbers to immigrate. When the muslim immigrants do the same thing in Denmark, the reaction of the Danish government is to close the borders.

Langobard what the heck is the difference between a Norwegian and a Dane? Aren't they racially very similar and culturally similar? What accounts for this difference?


Denmark and Norway both have strong immigration restrictionist parties, each currently getting over 20% of the vote. But, in Norway, Labour runs the country (they were just reelected in 2009) so the Norwegian Progress Party can't influence immigration policy. In Denmark, by contrast, the Danish People's Party is in the government as part of a conservative coalition.

Sweden is actually worst off, but they seem to have a decent restrictionist party on the scene finally.

Offtopic:

White women overwhelmingly prefer White men:


Whiskey hasn't commented yet...

Grumpy Old Man said...

As fwood1 points out, "The Shield" has a story line involving the Armenian underworld. The "Strike Team," who are both effective cops and thuggish, rips off the "Armenian money train," sending ill-gotten gains abroad.

The series is quite explicit about racial/ethnic cleavages and criminal specialties. Not many punches pulled. Next to "The Wire," it's the best crime series I've seen on TV. "The Wire," of course, is in a class by itself--a dramatized ethnography of Baltimore.

Anonymous said...

"Look at the large numbers of young Ashkenazi that join teach for America or the peace corps. Look at the vanishingly small number of Armenians."

You were just telling us how reproductive they were...?

i am the walrus said...

Danes are famously altruistic towards other Danes, and Denmark is by some measures the happiest place in the world.

One of the best movies I've seen over the last few years is a Danish movie, Terribly Happy. It really has fun with the whole notion of Denmark as the "happiest place in the world."

stari_momak said...

There are a few episodes where L&O have dealt with some racial ambiguities -- the Eugenics one (original series) was one such. But lets get real --statistically they are way off.

I had to laugh at the psuedo-Mansion gang episode. It was almost nostaglic, LA was a totally different city demographically back then. And it must be said that the at least the 'surfer' episode had a basis in fact -- the so-called 'Bird Rock Bandits'. Of course they were in a city 100 miles away (San Diego) For east coasters thats like taking a Philadelphia Crime and putting it in New York.

The best thing about the L&O : LA is that they didn't even hire a Mexican or Mexican American to play the 'Chicano' DA. The dude is half-Spanish, half-Italian, and born in London (UK). You'd think Edward James Olmos would be up in arms, especially since the guy obviously has some serious bronzer on. Brown-face, anyone?

Quaker Oats said...

What is the ethnic background that produces most of the affluent Americans that sacrifice their children for "out group altruism"?

No doubt original American stock, old school WASPs and other elites that try to emulate their ways. For examples, see Unitarians and Quakers.

Anonymous said...

Two points:

a) Eastern Promises is a movie you should see if the subject of Vors interests you.

b) I recently returned to the white middle class neighborhood that I grew up in (which would have made me upper class had my parents not divorced right before the housing market quadrupled) and was surprised to find that the nebbishy Bukharian Jewish kids had grown up to produce a slew of wealthy adults while so many of my Ashkenazi classmates and I were a couple of socio-economic rungs lower than we'd been growing up. The reasons for this are rather obvious but of some interest is how differently we live. Growing up, my orthodox parents were (at least outwardly, if not in their religious beliefs) good citizens and models of neighborliness who had a tasteful, but not outwardly ostentatious, home and who regarded their neighbors (all white, mostly secular Jewish) as members of their tribe. The wealthy Bukharian, Georgian and other Jews from the Caucuses however rebuilt their homes (in the same neighborhood) to look like impenetrable fortresses.

I can't comment on the intelligence of doing so (growing up there was a lot of crime in the community by outsiders and security was always a real concern) but what I found most interesting is how upset my parents' remaining Ashkenazi neighbors were about it. They felt that these castles gave the neighborhood a feeling of each-man-for-himself rather than a more open communal feeling.

Personally I'm in no position to judge and couldn't care less how two millionaires feel about each other but I did find this "protect what's yours" attitude among the newly rich immigrants (believe me, they were shit poor twenty years ago) to be quite interesting and - as you say Steve - worthy of emulating in an atmosphere where communal bonds have atrophied.

(On that subject, my newly-married brother lives in a tiny roachy apartment with his wife despite his sister-in-law being worth millions and his wife's first cousin being one of the most famous movie moguls in Hollywood. That's why it pisses me off so much to read endless rants here on isteve by people who assume that Jews all help their own. If only! The only thing worse than being poor is being poor and having people hate you for your ill-gotten gains.)

Anonymous said...

Two points:

a) Eastern Promises is a movie you should see if the subject of Vors interests you.

b) I recently returned to the white middle class neighborhood that I grew up in (which would have made me upper class had my parents not divorced right before the housing market quadrupled) and was surprised to find that the nebbishy Bukharian Jewish kids had grown up to produce a slew of wealthy adults while so many of my Ashkenazi classmates and I were a couple of socio-economic rungs lower than we'd been growing up. The reasons for this are rather obvious but of some interest is how differently we live. Growing up, my orthodox parents were (at least outwardly, if not in their religious beliefs) good citizens and models of neighborliness who had a tasteful, but not outwardly ostentatious, home and who regarded their neighbors (all white, mostly secular Jewish) as members of their tribe. The wealthy Bukharian, Georgian and other Jews from the Caucuses however rebuilt their homes (in the same neighborhood) to look like impenetrable fortresses.

I can't comment on the intelligence of doing so (growing up there was a lot of crime in the community by outsiders and security was always a real concern) but what I found most interesting is how upset my parents' remaining Ashkenazi neighbors were about it. They felt that these castles gave the neighborhood a feeling of each-man-for-himself rather than a more open communal feeling.

Personally I'm in no position to judge and couldn't care less how two millionaires feel about each other but I did find this "protect what's yours" attitude among the newly rich immigrants (believe me, they were shit poor twenty years ago) to be quite interesting and - as you say Steve - worthy of emulating in an atmosphere where communal bonds have atrophied.

(On that subject, my newly-married brother lives in a tiny roachy apartment with his wife despite his sister-in-law being worth millions and his wife's first cousin being one of the most famous movie moguls in Hollywood. That's why it pisses me off so much to read endless rants here on isteve by people who assume that Jews all help their own. If only! The only thing worse than being poor is being poor and having people hate you for your ill-gotten gains.)

Anonymous said...

Anon posted:
" I was ... surprised to find that the nebbishy Bukharian Jewish kids had grown up to produce a slew of wealthy adults while so many of my Ashkenazi classmates and I were a couple of socio-economic rungs lower than we'd been growing up"

I think this anon makes a good point. there seems to be more downward mobility among Ashkenazi than among the non Ashkenazi jews. Let me make a few observations. First of all, housing costs are much higher than they used to be, and non Ashkenazi jews will often, as Steve points out, have the unmarried adult children live at home until they are married, allowing them to save substantial ammts of money.

Ashkenazi of course are in a rush to get their own apartment as soon as possible.

Second of all, Ashkenazi are locked in an educational arms race, a status based arms race. Ashkenazi females that have no intention of practicing law will go to law school as a social signalling device. This doesn't happen among the non ashkenazi jews.

Third of all, some Ashkenazi are locked in to competitive out group altruism. Conspicuously donating to charities that don't advance the communal interests. Good example, all the charities that send money to africa.

The competitive out group altruism leads young Ashkenazi to some careers that are not financially rewarding. Huge numbers of Ashkenazi apply for teach for America and similar things. This sometimes goes to extremes, as in the case of Gerald Levin sending his son to tutor violent ghetto youth. Gerald Levin engaged in typical Ashkenazi behavior. Is there any doubt that a non Ashkenazi jew would not sacrifice his son in this way?

I think there are other examples, look at the ranks of humanities and literature PHDs. Huge numbers of Ashkenazi jews, almost no non-ashkenazi jews.

I think that ashkenazi jews and non ashkenazi jews in the USA behave in such different ways that it is a stretch to even lump them together.

Ashkenazi jews typically follow the SWPL line, falling in to the same status system as other SWPLs. Indeed the Biehl family sent their daughter to die in South Africa and then the Biehl family befriended their daughter's killers, all in an extreme example of status driven out group altruism. This strikes me as typical Ashkenazi behavior, even though the Biehls were not Ashkenzai.

Do others with experience in this area see the stark differences between Ashkenazi and non Ashkenazi jews?

Mr. Anon said...

"Laban said...

The BBC has a popular TV drama called Spooks, in which week after week the intelligence services do battle against the major threats to the UK - white supremacists, Israelis, pro-lifers, Hindu terrorists, extremist Christians (really), occasional evil multinationals."

I once saw a little of "Spooks" (or "MI 5" as it's titled in the U.S.) - even with the sound down, I could tell it was nothing but PC crap.

Given that shows like "Spooks" and "Law and Order" are popular (especially with women, I think) they provide a useful departure point in discussions for getting people to pay attention to how the media is trying to manipulate them. L&O is such an egregious offender in this regard, it can be very instructive - in one episode they featured a blonde, white crack-whore who sells her own son to a puerto-rican drug-dealer (I'm surprised they didn't go the whole hog and make the drug-dealer a norwegian guy named Olaf).

Anonymous said...

Those of you interested in the word "Vor" might consider reading the Miles Vorkosigan novels by Lois McMaster Bujold. It's not relevant to the discussion, but I don't get many chances to recommend those books to people.

-- Karen, who can't make my Google account recognize me.

adfadsfasf said...

In LA, there must be lots of real-life stories of Jewish bigshots, their dirty schemes in business, sex, politics, and who-knows-what-else. But we don't seem to get much of that. But there are some. One of the nastier crooks in AGAINST ALL ODDS was some Jewish schlmiel lawyer.

And NO HOLDS BARRED had some nasty Jewish types and big bad black guy for blonde Hulk Hogan to take on.

I love this scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsZ_NM4ASGY&feature=related

Svigor said...

What, no "Men with Gold Chains"?

Svigor said...

Someone needs to go through all those 900 hours of L & O

When I get around to it. Star Trek needs going through too. Dunno about matching anything - just to count the ways...

The key to blowing their agenda would be the systematic revealing of the degree of the manipulation.

Anyone can point to an example and have it dismissed as a one off, it 'just happened to be' that turned a black killer into a white, a white victim in to a black.

If one could point to 100 examples of this and not a single counter example, what on earth could the defence be?


Focusing exclusively on rich socialites pretty much gives the whole game away with zero research needed. 'Specially since the rich socialites of Wolf's imagination are about 1/1000th as Jewish as they are in real life.

Anonymous said...

Eastern Promises is a movie you should see if the subject of Vors interests you

Oh dear, please don't. Eastern Promises is unbelievably, unthinkably bad and not realistic.

Svigor said...

The BBC has a popular TV drama called Spooks, in which week after week the intelligence services do battle against the major threats to the UK - white supremacists, Israelis, pro-lifers, Hindu terrorists, extremist Christians (really), occasional evil multinationals.

Here it's called MI5, since "spooks"... ah, never mind.

I rented season 1, watched a couple episodes, and sent the discs back. Some of the lowest production values I've seen in a recent TV show, just absolute drek.

Anonymous said...

Bernie Madoff was not Armenian, neither were the banksters or other good patriotic American thieves. I get the feeling people have a grudge against some upstart foreigners stealing big money in a sophisticated manner reserved for those here for at least three generations. Recent arrivals are supposed to confine themselves to bottom feeding crime such as pimping, drug selling, smash and grab type criminality, etc.

Svigor said...

That's why it pisses me off so much to read endless rants here on isteve by people who assume that Jews all help their own. If only! The only thing worse than being poor is being poor and having people hate you for your ill-gotten gains.

I'll email you a pass.

Seriously though, keep the word relative (math, not blood) forefront in your mind in this context, eh? And try not to insert words like "all" just because they suit your purposes; everyone knows it's your addition to the argument.

Kylie said...

i am the walrus said..."One of the best movies I've seen over the last few years is a Danish movie, Terribly Happy. It really has fun with the whole notion of Denmark as the 'happiest place in the world.'"

Just saw this last week and loved it. The eulogy was one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

But I didn't think it was about playing with the notion of Denmark as happy; rather that Denmark can be a happy place because Danish weirdos tend to congregate in out-of-the-way places that have bogs handily nearby.

Of course, being American with no Danish ancestry, I might have missed the cultural references and nuances. Regardless, it was a wonderful movie.

Langobard said...

Langobard, thaks for your comment. I think competitive IN GROUP altruism can be very healthy for a society, but I think we can all agree that competitive OUT GROUP altruism is deadly.

Danes are famously altruistic towards other Danes, and Denmark is by some measures the happiest place in the world. At the same time Danes are NO LONGER competitive altruists with regard to out group immigration.

To put a fine point on it, when muslim immigrants rape and pillage in Norway, the reaction of the Norwegian government is to allow increasing numbers to immigrate. When the muslim immigrants do the same thing in Denmark, the reaction of the Danish government is to close the borders.

Langobard what the heck is the difference between a Norwegian and a Dane? Aren't they racially very similar and culturally similar? What accounts for this difference.

And what was the ethnic background of Amy Biehl's parents? What is the ethnic background that produces most of the affluent Americans that sacrifice their children for "out group altruism"?
- Anonymous

Great questions/points anon!

The answer to your last question is, unfortunately, Old Stock, Founding Americans, followed by other closely-related NW European groups, which are then followed by members of other ethnic groups which have assimilated to the culture and heritage of traditional, Founding Stock Anglo-America (I count myself in the latter category, since I am an American of Northern Italian descent whose family has fully, and proudly, assimilated to the culture of the American Majority).

Your overall points are spot-on: IN-GROUP altruism is great and fantastic for society's health and welfare as a whole,

...whereas OUT-GROUP altruism is, or often can, unfortunately lead to a social cancer to the body-politic, where out-groups mendaciously take advantage of the honesty, goodness and often naïveté of the trusting natives, such as we see with these Armenians and their extensive fraud network.

The money they ripped off has not been stolen from the 'American government', no, but from the Americans who actually paid into the system in the first place, not these Armenian or other foreign gangsters who were learning their criminal trades in the Soviet Union whilst the members of the American Majority were working day-in-and-day-out to pay into the Medicare system for their, and their posterity's, future and retirement, such as my father, a WW2 veteran who can barely get a few hours a week of help out of 'our' Medicare system, after the seventy+ years of contributions he made to that system.

I say this again as an American of Italian descent: I want WASP hegemony back! Then maybe we all can have a more honest and open system again.

Truth said...

" Anonymous said...

Steve Sailer: Yet growing up in the Soviet gangster state seems to have inculcated gangster values in some of them.

C'mon Steve - this is a self-styled HBD site."

You've gotta admit, Steve-O. He nailed you square in between the nads with that one.

Anonymous said...

Cable cop show "The Shield" had an episode dealing with Armenian gangsters (episode "Blowback") -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Shield_episodes

Armenians, Chechens, Jews and Georgians, the dominant minorities in the old Soviet Union, plying their trades effectively eh?

Anonymous said...

Law & Order:


Everybody imagine for a second if a television producer ripped crimes committed by *whites* out of the headlines and consistently portrayed them as being committed by *blacks* against -white- victims.


The photographic negative of that situation happens almost weekly on Law & Order courtesy of producer Dick Wolf.


Overtime: Im disturbed by how many cop-drama plotlines seem to involve the police & social services "rescuing" kids from their parents and taking them away, a la Elian Gonzalez, for their "own good". What are we being conditioned to accept here folks?


We not only have an "occupation" news media, we also have a "occupation" propaganda/entertainment media i-m-o.

Anonymous said...

Still, no one has answered the question - what ethnicity was the Biehl family -

were they of Scandanavian ancestry, British, Ashkenazi? What ancestry?

Because having a status system like that is pretty extreme. where did it come from?

how many people want to take it to the Biehl family extreme, have a child murdered by another race?

Who is most extremely altruistic in this regard

Anonymous said...

The BBC has a popular TV drama called Spooks, in which week after week the intelligence services do battle against the major threats to the UK - white supremacists, Israelis, pro-lifers, Hindu terrorists, extremist Christians (really), occasional evil multinationals.

Israelis?!?

Anonymous said...

Offtopic:

White women overwhelmingly prefer White men:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/10/female-race-consciousness-as-prudence/

"The results are striking. An African-American man would have to earn $154,000 more than a white man in order for a white woman to prefer him. A Hispanic man would need to earn $77,000 more than a white man, an Asian man would need, remarkably, an additional $247,000 in additional annual income."
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what exactly, sir, is the point of you approving this obvious Spam??

i thought comments had to be at least tangentially related to either the post or one of the comments, are u trying to boost comment numbers?

Anonymous said...

good for you, btw: censorship of any kind, is generally bad and anti-intellectual.

Anonymous said...

Still, no one has answered the question - what ethnicity was the Biehl family -

What other ethnic group but North-West Europeans/Protestants (the more Germanic, the more extreme)would think or behave in such an insipid manner as this:

"In 1998, Biehl's killers were pardoned by the TRC (a decision the family endorsed) and released from prison after serving four years. At the amnesty hearings, the Biehls shook hands with their daughter's killers and Peter Biehl addressed the Commission amnesty hearings saying, "The most important vehicle of reconciliation is open and honest dialogue...we are here to reconcile a human life which was taken without an opportunity for dialogue. When we are finished with this process we must move forward with linked arms."

"The Biehls said they believe their daughter would have supported the Commission’s decision to grant amnesty."

http://tinyurl.com/2besyna

*If you look in the center of that atrocious web-site, you will see the picture of Biehl's very blonde, and very Nordic looking, mother and father [jeesh - to think these people had Vikings as ancestors :(]

BamaResident said...

"What is the ethnic background that produces most of the affluent Americans that sacrifice their children for "out group altruism"?"

"WASPs", but certainly not the southern ones.

Anonymous said...

L&O is a racist show, full stop. Let me dumb this down for you: about 8% of the murders in New York are committed by "whites", and that doesn't even factor in the racist "defining whiteness down" policies of the establishment that stuff every possible murderer they can get away with into the white category. At least two-thirds of the murders nationwide are committed by non-whites, and L&O doesn't even meet that criteria. There's simply no excuse for L&O not to show - let's be super generous here - at least half of the criminals as non-white. A lot of the fanboys of the show just don't want to watch shows about blacks and browns, but that's just tough. Allowing these shows to libel whites is an important pillar in the Liberal system of white control. How might the immigration debate, for example, be impacted if crime in LA was depicted accurately? Liberals understand the "broken window" factor in politics, that by attacking the small heresies you prevent the large ones from ever coming up. Conservatives are too stupid, or cowardly, or crooked to act on this principle, and that's why they're losers. Attacking and beating the "Americas whitest criminals" syndrome on fictional shows like L&O would be a major step toward dismantling the entire race based system of control of the Liberal establishment.

Langobard said...

But today, as illustrated by Law & Order, the American ruling class lacks the cultural confidence to demand assimilation from immigrants. @Steve-O

Your a bit off the mark on this one, Steve, since the 'ruling class' has plenty of confidence, cultural and otherwise.

It is just that the 'ruling class' in America is not American.

IOW, we have a 'ruling class in America'... rather than an 'American ruling class'.

I want WASP hegemony back!

AmericanGoy said...

"Most Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Tatars, and even Russians (given that Genghis had red hair and gray eyes) are likely descendants of the Great Khan."

Bred in Poland here, with a very nice and pleasant (if I do say so myself) round face.

Very mongolian round face...

Tanstaafl said...

If one could point to 100 examples of this and not a single counter example, what on earth could the defence be?

"RACIST! WHITE SUPREMACIST! HATER!"

Svigor said...

"The BBC has a popular TV drama called Spooks, in which week after week the intelligence services do battle against the major threats to the UK - white supremacists, Israelis, pro-lifers, Hindu terrorists, extremist Christians (really), occasional evil multinationals."

Israelis?!?


See, this is the kind of crap you get when you let the Goyische Kopfs run free without supervision.

Mr. Anon said...

"It’s practically a dog-bites-man story: Omar-kills-woman.

L&O isn’t going to make it into an episode."

L&O might indeed turn it into an episode, but the investigation would reveal that poor Omar was hired by some white guy (Cameron T. Wainwright, or T. Cameron Wainwright, or Wainwright T. Cameron, perhaps) - a wealthy executive at a big pharma company - to kill the unfortunate bride-to-be because she was going to tell the FDA about how the evil Wainwright's company was cooking the trials on thier latest drug. Moreover, Omar only did it because the rich white guy promised to get his dying little Nino, Pedro, into a trial for the experimental drug that would save his life. So you see, the perp is really just as much a vic as the vic (never seen as anything other than a pair of legs sticking out from behind a car) - a victim of evil white Wainwright,.....and capitalism, of course. That evil Wainwright.........so smug, so callous, so........so white!

Actually, I believe that something along those lines was a plot in the original L&O series.

Anonymous said...

I think there are other examples, look at the ranks of humanities and literature PHDs. Huge numbers of Ashkenazi jews, almost no non-ashkenazi jews.

Academia in general and the humanities in particular are huge rent-seeking rackets that are quite obviously economic niches favorable to Ashkenazim.

Ashkenazi jews typically follow the SWPL line, falling in to the same status system as other SWPLs.

The rise of "the SWPL line" has coincided with the catastrophic and drastic decline and fall of the WASP elite and the ascendance of the Ashkenazi elite.

Tanstaafl said...

Medium is a paranormal/crime/mystery show. It's stories are set around the activities of a ghost-talker who works in the DA's office of present-day Phoenix. Though the DA himself is a proud ladeeenyo, the bad guys almost never are, despite the genocidal influx from the land of defunct empires south of the US border. That influx never comes up, and I don't think brown gang bangers or drug runners have ever made an appearance - certainly not as regularly as they do in reality. As with L&O, the criminals are disproportionately crazy White folk.

A recent episode concerned a murder in a neighboring county that has a sheriff who does things in a way DA Manuel doesn't like, though Manuel grudgingly admits it's what voters want. The dastardly White sheriff runs chain gangs and dresses prisoners in pink. OMG! The ghost-talker can't understand. Her boss says the sheriff is bad, and he seems mean, but he's also friendly and professional. Then at the end of the episode we find out he's a pervert and murderer.

Mystery solved!

Kylie said...

Steve Sailer said..."But today, as illustrated by Law & Order, the American ruling class lacks the cultural confidence to demand assimilation from immigrants."

Huh? The American ruling class does not lack the cultural confidence to demand assimilation from immigrants. It just doesn't want to. In fact, it encourages immigrants not to assimilate.

Furthermore, the American ruling class has the cultural confidence to forbid native-born Americans to demand assimilation from immigrants and instead demands that they, the native-born Americans, capitulate to immigrants.

I'm afraid the rift within your lute is your excessive niceness, your apparent belief that other people, even when they aren't as nice as you, are guilty merely of misfeasance, not of malfeasance.

travis said...

I want WASP hegemony back!

It wouldn't be a iSteve post without at least one commentator blaming the Jews for whatever the problem is that's being discussed. I would encourage you to read the great California novel, The Grapes of Wrath, and you'll learn that the white ruling class never attempted to be their brother's keepers. At least with Jews in charge, if indeed that's the case, we can rid ourselves of the childish notion that the elite give a damn about the rest of us.

stari_momak said...

Actually, saw a L&O rerun last night with a black teenage criminal. But its okay, he was ratted out by his 'honor student' little brother, who got $25,000 reward for doing so. The blood money allowed our promising genius little bro' to attend a charter school. I am not making this up.

ERM said...

Not that it matters but: "vor" means simply "thief" in Russian. The godfather-like figure would be "vor v zakone" ("thief in law", meaning an established, respected criminal who took up a life of crime once and for all).

I think it's going to be a stretch to get the whole phrase to catch on. That preposition "v" in particular is going to cause problems for Anglo tongues. I'm modestly proficient at another Slavic language but have almost no Russian, and without looking it up can think of at least four pronunciation possibilities that seem viable. Raw civilians will have much less to go on. It's a cool name, though.

Anonymous said...

NCIS had a really disgusting, despicable episode last night [written by Christopher J. Waild and directed by Terrence O'Hara] wherein the terrorists are a bunch of WASPs living on a cul-de-sac in greater suburbia, who plot their terrorist campaigns over backyard barbecue picnics.

I. Kid. You. Not.



PS: If anyone here knows Bellisario or McGill, then could you PLEASE tell them that we aren't going to stand for much more of this crap being shoved down our throats?

Anonymous said...

If we don’t learn a little prudence and skepticism from them, about them and immigrants in general, they may well outlast us too.

Western Europeans are kind of like the tame Galapagos wildlife, or like the the dodo birds suddenly being exposed to rats and pigs.

Anonymous said...

The trick would be to attack L&O as being racist toward NAMs by not depicting black killers. Ignoring reality is the ultimate condescention: we don't want to bother thinking about you as complex human beings who are possible of killing.

At least it should be attacked for portraying too few NAM victims (maybe it already is). Ignoring the murdered NAMs is like saying their deaths (and lives) don't matter. Of course if you fix your victim ratio without fixing your killer ratio, the absurdity kicks up a notch.

Wandrin said...

"What other ethnic group but North-West Europeans/Protestants (the more Germanic, the more extreme)would think or behave in such an insipid manner as this:"

This would be the insipid anglo-saxon protestants that slaughtered their way into taking over half the planet?

Or the Germans who would have done the same if they'd had more conducive geography?

All this WASP suicide BS is just that - a mixture of dishonest divide and rule from the usual suspects mixed in with all the historic grudges from all the toes the insipid anglos trod on while they were insipidly ****ing the entire planet.

America and the American people are not commiting suicide they are being deliberately murdered and the murder weapon is cultural marxism.

Back in Germany in the 20s and 30s cultural marxists realised a very important thing.

Politics is almost entirely irrelevent.

Politics is arguing over the color of the pen you sign the peace treaty with after a hundred years of war.

The important bit is the hundred years of warfare that lead up to the treaty and that warfare is cultural warfare.

It is cultural warfare that decides the values that politics *must* conform to.

However you can't really do that to adults on a mass scale.

So how did they do it?

They went after our children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDyDtYy2I0M

They took control of the schools, universities and media not to manipulate the adults of 1950 but to manipulate the kids of 1950 who would then become the adults of 1960.

These episodes of Law & Order people mention aren't about manipulating you they're about manipulating your children.

What the woman in the video clip is describing is basically a cult. A 20-something idealistic girl from Kansas or somewhere goes to a teacher training college and is "challenged" i.e brain-washed by groups of older male Marxist authority figures who then send her back to Kansas to poison white children.

That's what happened.

Each generation since WWII has been poisoned to be slightly more left-liberal than their parents (where i define left-liberal as diluted cultural marxism) through the actions of a small hostile group who realised that instead of fighting political battles with adults today it's much easier to win the political battles of tomorrow by going after those adult's children.

idealart said...

"Western Europeans are kind of like the tame Galapagos wildlife, or like the the dodo birds suddenly being exposed to rats and pigs." - Anonymous

Best short comment I've read, maybe ever.

Truth said...

"PS: If anyone here knows Bellisario or McGill, then could you PLEASE tell them that we aren't going to stand for much more of this crap being shoved down our throats?"

LMAO!

I beg to differ there, Norma Rae, on the caveat that you WATCHED THE DAMN THING.

"And in such small portions, too!"

Anonymous said...

All this WASP suicide BS is just that - a mixture of dishonest divide and rule from the usual suspects mixed in with all the historic grudges from all the toes the insipid anglos trod on while they were insipidly ****ing the entire planet.

America and the American people are not commiting suicide they are being deliberately murdered and the murder weapon is cultural marxism.
- Wandrin

Perhaps guy, but why, if the Anglos were as cunning, or as bloodthirsty, as you all make 'em out to be, are they not putting up more of a fight, struggle and resistence to their dispossession then??

Again, if in fact they have the attributes you describe to them? to this

Wandrin said...

"are they not putting up more of a fight, struggle and resistence to their dispossession then??"

The insipid Anglo argument - by a strange coincidence heavily pushed bu Hollywood - has a pretty glaring logical flaw. If it was an inherent weakness then how did they get so many possessions to be dispossessed from?

Something happened around about the time of WWII.

Something changed around about the time of WWII.

What happened was the Nazis chased all the cultural marxists out of Europe and into the Anglosphere.

Kylie said...

Anonymous said..."If anyone here knows Bellisario or McGill, then could you PLEASE tell them that we aren't going to stand for much more of this crap being shoved down our throats?"

Why bother? Just turn off your TV. I did, years ago, and finally talked my husband into cancelling our cable package. We have ROKU now. I love it.

If you're watching TV these days, you may not be part of the problem but you sure as heck aren't part of the solution.

ben tillman said...

Perhaps guy, but why, if the Anglos were as cunning, or as bloodthirsty, as you all make 'em out to be, are they not putting up more of a fight, struggle and resistence to their dispossession then??


Because their collective nervous system has been hijacked. That should be obvious.