May 14, 2011

Finally, a "Law & Order" case in real life

The Law & Order dynasty of TV shows has a voracious appetite for ripped-from-the-headlines stories about Great White Defendants committing violent crimes. Unfortunately, the supply is not equal to the demand, so L&O constantly rewrites news stories to make them more politically correct.

But now, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, age 62, the head of the International Monetary Fund and frontrunner for the Socialist Party's nomination for President of France in 2012, was arrested in the first class cabin of an Air France jet at JFK. He was on his way to a meeting with German leader Angela Merkel when he was hauled off by NYPD on charges of raping the maid in his $3,000 per night NYC hotel suite. 

A few reactions:

- Wow, some guys have a lot of energy. Just reading about Strauss-Kahn's lifestyle is exhausting. (Although, I have to say that this line from the NY Post article -- "Strauss-Kahn... has a special arrangement with Air France that allows him to get on any flight and sit in first class, the sources said" -- does sound like a relaxing set-up. Why go through all the hassle of making reservations and then rushing to the airport when instead you can just show up anytime and your national flagship carrier says, "Yes, Mr. Future President of France" and bumps some poor frequent flier upgrade off the flight for you?)

- You know who else has a lot of energy? Strauss-Kahn's arch-rival, President Sarkozy. I don't mean anything by that. Just sayin' ...

- When L&O rips this story from the headlines, what changes will they make? Well, the maid will be dead, the country will change from France to Germany, the party from left to right, and the name from Dominique Strauss-Kahn to something like Franz Josef Strauss.

107 comments:

RKU said...

Ha, ha---Alan Dershowitz to the rescue!

Anonymous said...

I find Law&Order to be a liberal power-trip-fantasy.
The liberal dreams of "the state" being extended over the ends of the earth so that liberal "DA's" (District Attorneys) attired in stylish suits can bring charges against non-liberals whom they dont like.

Sexy-childless-single detectives with interesting sex lives can be dispatched with guns to bring the Great White Defendants to court, whereby the liberal DA can make speeches dripping with moral rectitude that exhibit their superior peacock status over the rest of us unenlightened plebes, and then the GWDs can be sentenced to years of prison rape after being stripped of their worldly possessions.

Leftys watch this show and believe it because its what they want to believe. One can go downtown and sit in nightcourt on any weekend and see who the real criminals are. Its a fun little diversion that every lefty should try sometime with their friends after a night at the bars drinking. They'll be amazed at how un-Strauss-like the defendants look.

The Vice Mayor of Minas Morgul

Anonymous said...

From the NYT:

"Mr. Strauss-Kahn has sometimes been attacked for being a “caviar leftist.”

The scene of the crime: "Mr. Browne said the suite, which cost $3,000 a night, had a foyer, a living room and a bedroom."

Not bad. By the way, when I hear "NYC hotel maid", I'm thinking Hispanic.

Anonymous said...

This will probably be good for Marine Le Pen and the National Front. The party is outpolling Sarkozy's UMP and has a shot at winning the coming elections. For the Socialist leader to go down at this time would seem to boost Le Pen's chances.

Sarkozy and Dominique are both Jewish, interestingly. For a country that's often criticized for its anti-semitism by neoconservatives, France seems pretty progresive.

Wes said...

Exactly right. I've been watching some crime shows recently on TV ... apparently black men are almost always our saviors and white men are devils ... the more white, the more demonic.

It's interesting to note this can be so widespread in the media without requiring a "conspiracy". It is just the shared sensibilities of a Leftist writers, producers and actors at work. In that sense, it is more dangerous than a conspiracy.

jody said...

strauss-kahn is jewish.

in february there was a guy in NYC who went on a rampage with a knife, stabbing 9 people (4 died) until he went after some big dude on the subway, who took him out by imitating stuff he saw in UFC. dana white even congratulated him in person and gave him UFC tickets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEwAZ5S0Ix8

there was sort of scandal later, when it was revealed that the NYPD officers in the subway car locked themselves in the next car to protect themselves from the guy with the knife, instead of confronting him. they only showed up after the big guy had wrestled the knife wielder to the ground.

it all would have been a big deal, including the cops avoiding the bad guy part. except the perpetrator was jewish. the story was suddenly not important.

the murderer, maksim gelman, was an immigrant from ukraine. he doesn't look like a diversity lottery winner though. looks like a chain immigrator family re-unifier type.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maksim_Gelman

Chicago said...

Another former communist who decided to go for the gold. Seems like all the communists of the West and East in recent times have had a marked propensity for extreme opportunism.
Sounds like he's let his importance go to his head; he has a sense of invulnerability and can do whatever he pleases.
Perhaps he'll be portrayed in a movie as the victim of a frame-up, a modern day Dreyfus.

Kaz said...

Dude, don't protect this guy only because he's white or whatever. He's scum, anyone involved with the IMF is scum.

Anonymous said...

Zerohedge blog had a bunch of conspiracy comments on this story today.

But it's probably behavior that sociopath StraussKahn has been engaging in for decades a la Bill Clinton & Ted Kennedy. Eventually these guys pick on the wrong victim and/or go way over the top in the amount of abuse and then the incident blows up in their faces.

Harry Baldwin said...

Aren't the aristocrats entitled to have their way with the chambermaids? I thought that was one of their perks, like the droit de signeur.

Reg Cæsar said...

"Strauss-Kahn... has a special arrangement with Air France that allows him to get on any flight and sit in first class, the sources said." --from the N.Y. Post

Is this "arrangement" voluntary? Who pays for it?

And, most importantly, how do I get one?

Maya said...

The first thought I had was the guy's a "jewish" refugee immigrant. A bunch of people decided that they were "jewish" based on the most vague one drop of blood ethnic connection when the US started to accept the Soviet Block Jews as refugees. Gelman sounds jewish, but, generally, Maksim isn't a popular first name among the Soviet Jews. Sure enough! I know many refugee families. They get a sweet deal, even a place to live upon arrival.

Lol at the guy going nuts because he wasn't allowed to drive a Lexus. This was obviously a drug induces psychosis, but still.

Anonymous said...

I find Law&Order to be a liberal power-trip-fantasy.

EVERY show on TV is a "liberal" power-trip-fantasy.

EVERY SINGLE SHOW.

Even the shows which start out life being arguably conservative - shows like NCIS, or the Stargate series: Eventually "they" work "their" way onto the writing teams*, take over the day-to-day heavy lifting of producing the working scripts, and then suddenly, la-voila, you've got "liberalism" run amuck.

Where, of course, "liberalism" is a fiercely tribalistic assault on the [once dominant] ethnic groups [English, Scottish, Scots-Irish, German Protestant] which created our nation and [what once passed for] its culture.



*Well, except for the shows where "they" can't come to dominate the script-writing teams - shows like The Sarah Connor Chronicles - those shows "they" just cancel outright.

Joe-k said...

Not bad. By the way, when I hear "NYC hotel maid", I'm thinking Hispanic.

Not a lock by any means. NYC has a very diverse 3rd world population. Maid could be African or Bangladeshi or from the Balkans or anything.

Anonymous said...

"For a country that's often criticized for its anti-semitism by neoconservatives, France seems pretty progresive."

Uhhh...they don't go together?

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking Hispanic.

To include Filipina?

Because - let's face it - it's gonna be kinda difficult to get that whole rape fantasy thang going when you're confronted with the specter of a 4'10" 220 lb Nahuatl chick.

anony-mouse said...

For all the people here who glorify the good old days, remember that when events like this happened in the past, and they did, they were swept under the rug fast and far.

Anyhow its nice to see that Bob Novak has come back to life as a Frenchman named Dominique.

Farang said...

I live in France. I've noticed that ambitious sephardic Jews, such as Sarkozy (he is a descendent of Greek Jews named Mallah) and Strauss-Kahn (a Moroccan Jew, in spite of his German-sounding name) often crave sex with beautiful gentile women, their craving for blondes verges on the pathological. Maybe it's a revenge on the goyim or something. They like ostentatious wealth: expensive suits, Rollexes, Porsche cars. Almost like mafiosi types, with whom they have many things in common. The shorter those guys are, the more accute those characteristics are. They are great sexual harassers in the workplace, especially when they are the bosses.

They like screwing each other: Cecilia, Sarkozy's first wife, eloped with another Jew, Moroccan-born Richard Attias. Interestingly, Cecilia and Attias live in New York.

Americans can consider themselves lucky: most of their Jews are ashkenazim, who seem to be more civilized in this respect.

I feel relieved that Strauss-Kahn is politically dead.

Whiskey said...

Probably a disaster for the UMP and Le Pen. Guarantees another go round for Segolene Royal, and knowing the French, that's just who they will choose. The French have been aching to surrender to anyone, since they were bled out in Verdun.

Vice Mayor of Minas Morgul has Law and Orderen correct. Which is why (hahahaha!) Law and Order LA got canceled. People just tired of a twenty plus year lecture by liberals.

Whiskey said...

Most criminals, and victims, are Black and Hispanic. As Steve noted, that's too depressing for the Liberal Worldview, which has all Blacks as computer geniuses, middle class folks, and magical wisdom purveyors (Whoopi Goldberg, and that guy marrying his grand-daughter, Morgan Freeman). All White guys (save the hero) are suspect, and the Black guy always good. The Whiter the White guy, the worst he is.

As noted also above, that's the default worldview of Hollywood -- no conspiracy just how they view things.

Wes said...

I find it interesting that RKU suddenly posts after an absence of a couple of days. Accident? Or part of the Reptilian conspiracy? He suddenly jumps in to use humor to distract us from discussing this issue.

Sounds like he is a government paid operative working to promote the interests of Hollywood and the Lizard People.

If he agrees, denies or ignores my assertion, that proves his culpability.

Lucius Vorenus said...

As noted also above, that's the default worldview of Hollywood -- no conspiracy just how they view things.

C'mon Whiskey - I'm one of the few people around here who defends you - but "no conspiracy"?

That's simply ludicrous.

Do you know who the "we minorities need to stick together" guy worked for?

One guess.

ninjapirate said...

I used love Law & Order... but after this one episode it was over between us...

Angelgrove

A fanatical Christian teenager is implicated in the stoning death of his mother because of her adultery. Did the boy's pastor incite him to take action, and is he criminally responsible?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1186499/

sabril said...

I hate leftists just as much as the next guy, but I am skeptical of this just as I was skeptical about the rape accusation against the wiki-leaks guy, against Al Gore, against those Duke Lacrosse players, etc.

sabril said...

P.S. I just noticed in the article that according to the authorities, he had left his cell phone and personal effects in the hotel room.

If that's really true, it suggests that he really did attack the girl and was fleeing. Crazy.

Vilko said...

Probably a disaster for the UMP and Le Pen. Guarantees another go round for Segolene Royal, and knowing the French, that's just who they will choose.

Whisley, you don't know the French at all. Ségolène Royal is toast since the 2007 disaster. The Socialist Party will have primaries in June. The winner will be either Martine Aubry or (more likely) François Hollande, Royal's former companion, with whom she had four children. Politics is often a family affair...

The Socialist Party primaries will be the real presidential election, because Sarkozy is completely discredited and Marine Le Pen has no chance of being elected (she could consider herself very successful if she has 30% of the votes in the run-off).

Any candidate except Le Pen will be the same type of immigration-disaster. France is toast as a nation, seriously.

DSK would have won against either Sarkozy or Le Pen, but so would Aubry or Hollande. Therefore DSK's comeuppance is not a very important event.

DSK and Sarkozy are buddies. They have many, many things in common. That's why Sarkozy helped him get the $800k a year, high profile IMF job. I wonder if Sarkozy will help his old pal DSK in his predicament as much as he helped Roman Polanski. Sarkozy had telephoned the prresident of the Swiss confederation and given Obama a letter of request in an attempt to get Polanski out of the lurch.

Anonymous said...

"I find Law&Order to be a liberal power-trip-fantasy."

Nah, it's just white fantasy period. Make whites believe for an hour they are heroes, when in fact they are villains.

Henry Canaday said...

As I think I and some others have emphasized, fictional crime stories, gong back to Sherlock Holmes, have always overemphasized the role of middle-class people in crime, simply because middle-class readers are more interested in the possible villainy of their social and economic peers and because middle-class criminals tend to commit more interesting crimes

But there has been, over the last 40 years, one big change in the way TV and movies tell crime stories. In the 1950s and 1960s, crimes most often were solved by private investigators and plucky defense attorneys who got their innocent clients off, while identifying the bad guys. Today, TV dramas more often celebrate the work of the official “system,” cops, prosecutors and judges. Why this shift?

Well, in the 1950s and 1960s, it was conventional liberal wisdom that the official criminal justice systems, police and courts, were stupid, oppressive and racially biased. So we needed to be rescued from these faults by noble and clever independent operators. Then the system was altered to conform to liberal ideas of how it should behave, with courts restrained by endless procedural protections of defendants and police trained to accept and revere these restraints. Presto, the once-reviled system became the hero of crime control.

Never mind the fact that the old unreformed systems actually controlled crime much better and caught criminals earlier in their careers before they had done too much damage or required drastically long sentences. The new system, slow, ineffective, grotesquely expensive in money and wasted or destroyed lives, conforms to liberal principles. So its servants, in uniforms or suits, are depicted as the true saviors of civilization.

Anonymous said...

"Even the shows which start out life being arguably conservative - shows like NCIS, or the Stargate series: Eventually "they" work "their" way onto the writing teams*, take over the day-to-day heavy lifting of producing the working scripts, and then suddenly, la-voila, you've got "liberalism" run amuck."

This has just happened to "Upstairs, Downstairs", much to my disappointment. A Stoppard had the part of the English aristocrat. I look forward to Steve's post on the Stoppards.

Robert Hume

Peter A said...

Anyone who thinks blacks are routinely depicted as "heroes" or even intelligent simply doesn't watch much TV. At least on most of the shows I watch blacks are pretty much invisible. How many high IQ blacks were ever shown on "Lost" for example? "Game of Thrones" hasn't been overflowing with blacks or Latinos either.

James said...

Two points about Law & Order:

1. It's dead. The original no longer appears on regular television. There's an LA version and reruns but nothing new.

2. By being so PC they inflicted serious harm on black actors. One thing I liked about the program was the occasionally extraordinary performances by unknown actors almost all of them white. (The end of the show in NY was lamented in the Times because it had been a virtual ATM for the large population of unemployed actors.)

More realistic shows like The Wire, The Shield and even NYPD gave lots of acting opps to blacks as perps and victims of typical urban crimes.

Anonymous said...

Sarkozy and Dominique are both Jewish, interestingly. For a country that's often criticized for its anti-semitism by neoconservatives, France seems pretty progresive.

Sarkozy's mother was part-Jewish, and he was raised as a Catholic. I wouldn't call him Jewish.

Cennbeorc

Has to be said...

Why does everyone assume that DSK is finished politically? This is France. He may get a boost.

Rob said...

Anon said:
By the way, when I hear "NYC hotel maid", I'm thinking Hispanic.
If they're charging $3000 a night at this place, they might even be able to afford American staff.

Chicago said:
Perhaps he'll be portrayed in a movie as the victim of a frame-up, a modern day Dreyfus.
There'll be no shortage of neocon journalists in America to write the "J'accuse."

Anonymous said...

Well, the maid will be dead

And black.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, probably some German Catholic who rapes under-age French models.

Oh. They already did something like that, didn't they. Guess he will have to be Serbian or South African then.

Anonymous said...

Nah, it's just white fantasy period. Make whites believe for an hour they are heroes, when in fact they are villains.

Have you been watching the same L&O as me?

Anonymous said...

their craving for blondes verges on the pathological
there was an article about the sex slave trade in israel - and the fact that the girls are overwhelmingly gentile blondes- and it said just this.

I have seen it with askanazi too.

as for this guy - i am surprised he was arrested. now comes a real dilmmena, spin it, sweep it under the rug...

speaking of disparate impact - why are the heads of the FED always jewish and the imf ? How about putting an african american in charge??

Marlowe said...

The Right Honourable Walter Outrage, M.P., last week's Prime Minister, was there. Before breakfast that morning (which had suffered in consequence) Mr Outrage had taken twice the maximum dose of a patent preparation of chloral, and losing heart later had finished the bottle in the train. He moved in an uneasy trance, closely escorted by the most public-looking detective sergeants. These men had been with Mr Outrage in Paris, and what they did not know about his goings on was not worth knowing, at least from a novelist's point of view. (When they spoke about him to each other they called him 'the Right Honourable Rape', but that was more by way of being a pun about his name than a criticism of the conduct of his love affairs, in which, if the truth were known, he displayed a notable diffidence and the liability to panic.)

Kylie said...

"When L&O rips this story from the headlines, what changes will they make? Well, the maid will be dead, the country will change from France to Germany, the party from left to right, and the name from Dominique Strauss-Kahn to something like Franz Josef Strauss."

The maid will be a dead, black, legal immigrant from Nigeria. In a heart-tugging aside, she'll have been saving to buy a house in the suburbs so she could fully live the American dream.

Anonymous said...

the BBC recently fired the producer of a show where the cast was all white- it was one of those small town murder mystrey shows - that old folks like....
He said it would be ridiculous to add non whites - as the show was very 'english' he of course, was fired.

Kylie said...

"One can go downtown and sit in nightcourt on any weekend and see who the real criminals are. Its a fun little diversion that every lefty should try sometime with their friends after a night at the bars drinking. They'll be amazed at how un-Strauss-like the defendants look."

No, they won't. They already know the justice system is institutionally racist, resulting in a preponderance of non-white defendants. You and I look at black and Hispanic defendants and reflect that non-whites commit more crime. Leftists look at them and reflect on the evils of white privilege and bigotry that extend even into the courtroom, to the detriment of all those non-white defendants.

Anonymous said...

A fanatical Christian teenager is implicated in the stoning death of his mother because of her adultery

This is so pathetic it's funny, if it were not for the fact that most white liberals lap it right up, then defend the ground zero mosque and the proliferation of burkha wearing muslims in brooklyn.

Svigor said...

The funny thing is, my first reaction to the headline at Drudge was that this was a trumped-up NWO power play. Why would a MotU rape anyone (in this manner)? Where would he find the time in his itinerary?

It's interesting to note this can be so widespread in the media without requiring a "conspiracy". It is just the shared sensibilities of a Leftist writers, producers and actors at work. In that sense, it is more dangerous than a conspiracy.

It's more than cultural sensitivities, it's legal sensitivities, too. Insufficient diversity risks lawsuits. And insufficiently sensitive diversity risks negative publicity.

Of course, leftists are responsible for all these "external" factors, too...

Most criminals, and victims, are Black and Hispanic.

True, but depends on the particulars, too. E.g., most of the rapists in South Carolina are black males, and most of the rape victims are white females.

Nah, it's just white fantasy period. Make whites believe for an hour they are heroes, when in fact they are villains.

There's the thanks the leftists get for throwing their own under the bus.

:)

Svigor said...

P.S., just because most leftists are dupes who don't really understand what they're doing, doesn't mean they're all such. There are many "active ingredients" in leftism, too.

Anonymous said...

This scum-bag member of the "rulling class" was staying in a $3,000 per night hotel room. Note that NO amount of your (taxpayer) money is too much to support the outragious lifestyle of our overloards. I'd write more, but, this is Sunday and I have to get back to work to try to earn enough to feed my family and pay my taxes.

bigdukesix said...

A fanatical Christian teenager is implicated in the stoning death of his mother because of her adultery. Did the boy's pastor incite him to take action, and is he criminally responsible?

Hilarious. This is a rich vein for Law and Order to mine.

Other potential episodes:

A fanatical Christian beheads a woman while shouting "Praise Jesus!" Is Glenn Beck to blame?

A fanatical Lutheran murders his daughter for besmirching the family's honor when she begins to date a Secular Humanist. Is the former governor of Montana, a hyper-extremist right-wing woman, at fault for this "honor killing"?

A newspaper editor is murdered after his paper prints an unflattering cartoon of Jesus. The culprits: fanatical fundamentalist Christians whose scriptures declare that no visual portrayal of their savior is allowed. Are the Koch brothers to blame?

Anonymous said...

This is simply another vicious anti-Semitic attack against an innocent person, simply because he is Jewish, similar to HITLER and the Holocaust. When will the hatred against those who control the World’s finances, media, politics, world trade, and culture, ever end?

Did I mention HITLER and HOLOCUAST and ANTI-SEMITIC and HATE?

Anonymous said...

Here's my prediction:

Accuser is probably Hispanic (1 of the dirty little secrets known by all NYC detectives is that Hispanic women file a disproportionate number of false police reports). Said "victim" voluntarily gave oral sex to IMF guy (for a fee, whatever). After the sex act, said "victim" grows a conscience (for whatever reason). Said "victim" calls the police. Said "victim" also most likely has a sleazy reputation.

Anonymous said...

To 2:54 AM,

On Law & Order, the villain is white 99% of the time.

Anonymous said...

Do you actually watch L&0? Wolf is a well known republican and the show is very right-wing albeit in an legalese and unrealistic way. The Valerie Plame equivalent was changed to make it a democrat, and right-wing talking points are constantly repeated (about recidivism rates, "getting off on technicalities") ect

TGGP said...

I say L&O would have him be French. Americans find French more interesting, somewhat like upper crust Brits.

Anonymous said...

"On Law & Order, the villain is white 99% of the time."

I'm in show business, so let me give you the backstory on this. Originally, executive producer Dick Wolf wanted some minority perps, but L&O's audience didn't like it--so Wolf successfully changed to mostly white perps. Turns out white people don't like watching minorities on TV, and NY white actors wanted the coveted villain roles.

Anonymous said...

"On Law & Order, the villain is white 99% of the time."

And 99% of whites identify with the prosecutors.

I just don't think average white can stand watching whites jail non-whites.
That would be reality programming.

Anonymous said...

Everyone originally watched Law&Order. Why not? The photography was good. The acting was good. And most important it had those two "chunk - chunks".

It was topical - a huge relief from all the cowboy shows from the fifties. In San Francisco a few years back we had a woman eaten by her neighbor's dog. We all wanted to see that story on L&O.

My impression is that the left wing preaching only began after it became a huge hit. Maybe some other reader can help me with that.

In any case it became like a David Letterman monologue - very funny and enjoyable and then some gratuitous sour partisan jibe. I can't watch Letterman anymore because I fear he will make some nasty remark. The same is true for Law & Order - good production values, acting, and writing put in the service of a bitter and preposterous world view.

I did learn something however from the show. I used to think it was ludicrous for the all female Assistant District Antorney's to be so incredibly beautiful. Then FOX News got Megan Kelly - a former DA. If I had known I might have chosen law school.

Albertosaurus

bigdukesix said...

Do you actually watch L&0? Wolf is a well known republican and the show is very right-wing albeit in an legalese and unrealistic way.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20091211/en_ynews/ynews_en1030

Sparking O'Reilly's ire was an episode of "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit" that aired earlier in the week, in which a crazed anti-immigration activist set out to murder the children of illegal immigrants. In one scene, a character named Randall Carver, played by veteran actor John Larroquette, is sitting on a park bench talking to Fin, the detective played by Ice-T. In defending the actions of the man who killed the immigrants’ children, Larroquette's character says, "Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate...They've convinced folks that immigrants are the problem, not corporations that fail to pay a living wage or a broken health care system..."

Talk about right-wing propaganda!

IHTG said...

LOL, only on iSteve could people see a horny, philandering politican and think "JEW" before they think "FRENCH".

Svigor said...

"On Law & Order, the villain is white 99% of the time."

I'm in show business, so let me give you the backstory on this. Originally, executive producer Dick Wolf wanted some minority perps, but L&O's audience didn't like it--so Wolf successfully changed to mostly white perps. Turns out white people don't like watching minorities on TV, and NY white actors wanted the coveted villain roles.


Yeah, thanks for the "inside story" Mr Gatekeeper. None of us knew Dick Wolf's bullshit story until now.

Now let's see the evidence for this story. The first season of L&O didn't look all that different from the last, AFAICT.

Yes, we know that actors want roles. WGAF what they want? Suddenly producers are beholden to white actors, and only white actors? Don't make me laugh. Non-white actors want those roles, too (and even if they didn't, why pander to their racism?).

I could buy the arguments about what the audience finds "interesting" if L&O constructed a fantasy world where NYC perps were both wealthy and diverse. The idea that no one wants to see the economic and cultural realities of the criminal class is at least plausible. But why not well-heeled black, yellow, brown, sepia, and Ashkenazi villains? L&O is clearly fantasy, so "realism" is no barrier. White audiences, in the main, wouldn't even notice if some of the villain roles were played by Ashkenazis, with characters with Ashkenazi names.

But really, the whole argument is a joke. For years there was a prominent black prosecutor; did whites tune out? Then why would they tune out over a few black villains? And the argument that white audiences would rather see white shows, while probably true, hasn't stopped every show on television from inserting the black=good white=bad metric into their creative decision-making. I don't see how one gets from point A (our viewers want to see white people) to point B (black=good white=bad), so maybe you can map it out for me?

In short, you're conflating two different phenomena:

1 Diversity
2 Blacks=good whites=bad

They aren't even remotely the same thing.

But yeah, let's drag out the evidence, aside from Dick Wolf's word of honor, that they tried to put minorities in perp roles but the audience didn't like it.

Svigor said...

"And 99% of whites identify with the prosecutors."

I just don't think average white can stand watching whites jail non-whites.
That would be reality programming.


So The First 48 should be off the air soon? Hell, maybe it is, I don't watch TV so I wouldn't know.

I can buy the idea that L&O's audience don't want to watch whites lock up poor, stupid, drug-addled non-whites. But for one thing, it's mighty convenient that the audience is king when what they want dovetails with what the Wolfs want (whites would like to see Conservative programming, Christian programming, libs-get-their-comeuppance programming, etc., too; when should we expect the supply to meet the demand?). For another, the fact is that L&O's audience doesn't want to see poor, stupid, drug-addled suspects, period - race is secondary. They want to see rich people dragged through the courts. And if we're going to construct a fantasy world where NYC has enough rich murderers to fill a season of L&O, I don't see how making them diverse (like NYC's actual elite) or liberal is going to break the camel's back. And I doubt very much Wolf can produce the season that shows "he tried."

Also, I don't live in the alternate universe where the media simply "responds to demand." The media and its fellow-travelers (academia, politics) creates and shapes demand. E.g., I can buy that the average viewer thinks of "rich white folks" as conservative. I can't buy that the aforementioned parties aren't primarily responsible for that perception.

First you hook them on heroin, then you meet the "demand."

Svigor said...

FOX News kinda shot the libs' "the audience is king" thing all to shit, didn't they?

Svigor said...

Do you actually watch L&0? Wolf is a well known republican and the show is very right-wing albeit in an legalese and unrealistic way. The Valerie Plame equivalent was changed to make it a democrat, and right-wing talking points are constantly repeated (about recidivism rates, "getting off on technicalities") ect

Yes, yes, I see. A crime show where all the perps are rich and white, where black=good and white=bad, is "right wing."

SouthernAnonyia said...

Anyone else noticed that both Law & Order and CSI preach against vigilantism every so often as well? Deliberate, I'm sure.

Probably the most hilarious episode in terms of political correctness (although admittedly still entertaining) was one where John Stamos guest-starred as a banking executive who poked holes in his lovers' condoms, and they seemed to magically all get pregnant within a day or so of this. He had 47 children and was a "reproductive abuser"...I couldn't help but to think that a guy that rich would do all in his power to avoid having more children, and he didn't exactly fit the demographic of dudes who like to see their women get pregnant constantly.

Mr. Anon said...

"Anonymous said...

Do you actually watch L&0? Wolf is a well known republican and the show is very right-wing albeit in an legalese and unrealistic way."

The point you are trying to make is complete crap. Law and Order is quite obviously a politically correct liberal wet-dream. They have had shows about white protestant religious nut anti-abortion bombers and quasi neo-nazi militia types, as if there were any such thing in New York City. They had an episode about a blond, white crack-whore single-mother who sells her own kid to a drug dealer.

It quite consciously portrays a complete inversion of reality.

SouthernAnonyia said...

Also should add that in the same episode I described in my last post, there was a young Mexican nanny, who of course, resembled Megan Fox moreso than an actual Mexican. Not that there aren't white hispanics out there, but I doubt many of them are working in NYC as nannies.

RKU said...

Wes: I find it interesting that RKU suddenly posts after an absence of a couple of days. Accident? Or part of the Reptilian conspiracy? He suddenly jumps in to use humor to distract us from discussing this issue.

Sounds like he is a government paid operative working to promote the interests of Hollywood and the Lizard People.

If he agrees, denies or ignores my assertion, that proves his culpability.



Ha, ha. Nice to see that our mysterious friend "Wes" has now come back for another visit. Problem is, I'd actually posted a couple of pretty long comments just the day before his statement, and on one of the longest comment threads. "Wes" didn't know that because he didn't read the thread. And I think he didn't read the thread because he's not really interested in HBD issues.

Here's another interesting clue. A bit after "Wes" showed up, Steve enabled the feature which shows the time as well as the date of a comment, or at least I hadn't noticed it before. Now if you take a look at the timestamp of the "Wes" comments, especially when he first showed up and was posting a plethora of "anti-conspiracy" comments every day, you'll see they mostly occur in the small hours of the morning, generally between something 1am and 5am. Now lots of us, myself included, sometimes keep crazy hours, as does Steve, our host. But when someone night after night after night posts very large numbers of rather bland "anti-conspiracy" comments between about 1am and 5am across numerous different threads, the safe bet is that he's not based in the American timezone...

Anonymous said...

Turns out white people don't like watching minorities on TV,
oh, i see that's why they have minorities in the all the positive/victim positions... and that's why they changed the religion of the chap who beheads someone to Christian from muslim.... I got it. thanks.

Truth said...

"Here's my prediction:

Accuser is probably Hispanic (1 of the dirty little secrets known by all NYC detectives is that Hispanic women file a disproportionate number of false police reports). Said "victim" voluntarily gave oral sex to IMF guy..."

Yeah or uh, maybe the old geezer raped the broad.

alonzo portfolio said...

While I don't watch TV, I'm as pruriently interested as anyone, I wonder why a guy with an 800K salary didn't do what most rich guys would have done, i.e. just pop for a good young slut. I mean, these days anyone with even a little imagination could get a coed to engage in all sorts of debauchery for a couple grand, right? I guess this guy hadn't been briefed on New Jersey mall chicks.

Mr. Anon said...

"IHTG said...

LOL, only on iSteve could people see a horny, philandering politican and think "JEW" before they think "FRENCH"."

And that despite his very gallic name - Strauss-Kahn.

Anonymous said...

Not only are blacks and Hispanics the majority of the criminals in NYC they are also more likely to engage in crimes that are brutish and unsophisticated. It is hard to make a popular one hour television program aimed at SWPL if it is about two 19 year old Puerto Ricans stabbing each other over a hot boom box.

Svigor said...

Not only are blacks and Hispanics the majority of the criminals in NYC they are also more likely to engage in crimes that are brutish and unsophisticated. It is hard to make a popular one hour television program aimed at SWPL if it is about two 19 year old Puerto Ricans stabbing each other over a hot boom box.

Dipshit, read the comments. I addressed this.

Now we see there are THREE arguments being conflated into a single argument:

1. Whites want to watch whites on TV.
2. Whites=bad blacks=good
3. People like to see rich people get their comeuppance.

Nope, they're all separate.

L&O constructs a completely unrealistic (counter-realistic, in fact) fantasy world. But libtards want to pretend that rich BLACK, BROWN, YELLOW, RED, SEPIA, or JEWISH people in NEW YORK CITY is one lulz too far.

Lulz.

Rohan Swee said...

Said "victim" also most likely has a sleazy reputation.

As does alleged perp.

"This side of DSK's life has almost become folklore in France. In 2009, humourist Stéphane Guillon even dedicated his comedy slot on the popular morning radio show La Matinale de France Inter (the French equivalent for Radio 4) to this particular side of the politician: "Exceptional measures have been taken at Radio France in order not to awaken the Beast...'In order to guarantee the safety of the personnel, female workers are asked to wear long, unrevealing and anti-sex clothes'." (Hilariously, the linked Guardian article seems to have posted right before the charge hit the news.)


alonso portfolio: I wonder why a guy with an 800K salary didn't do what most rich guys would have done, i.e. just pop for a good young slut.

'Cause globocrats with 800K salaries and every sweet perq in the world tend to develop a pathological sense of entitlement? "Pay for it? Moi?!!!" (That said, it is all merely alleged at this point. Jus' sayin'.)

Whiskey said...

If you shout it out in the open from the rooftops 24/7, it is hardly a conspiracy. And its the result of guys like say, Joss Whedon, or David E. Kelley, or Dick Wolfe, or Ron Moore, as much as anyone else.

Newsflash: Whedon's not Jewish. He is however third generation Hollywood writer. David E. Kelley, is not Jewish either.

Who do you think watches TV? [Women, by about 80% or so.] Why do you think its self-reinforcing uber-liberal (because Women watch it, mostly). Go on any TV forum, and look at the posters, what they say, sex, and so on. It's market research on the cheap. The female audience loves that stuff -- TV is a gay/female ghetto.

bigdukesix said...

Not only are blacks and Hispanics the majority of the criminals in NYC they are also more likely to engage in crimes that are brutish and unsophisticated. It is hard to make a popular one hour television program aimed at SWPL if it is about two 19 year old Puerto Ricans stabbing each other over a hot boom box.

Once again for the slow crowd: Law & Order is infamous for ripping actual crimes from the headlines and then tweaking the storyline to make the story more leftist/anti-white. It can't be that the crimes committed by blacks and Puerto Ricans just wouldn't make good TV because Law & Order uses their crimes all of the time. It's just that on the show the perp is changed from non-white to white.

Anonymous said...

john lipsky was named to replace him... both are jewish, wow, what a unusual coincidence!

Whiskey said...

Peter A -- the season finale of "Blue Bloods" had the requisite Black computer genius. Other episodes had the "noble Haitian immigrant" who was wrongly framed by the mean White woman. And so on. The bad guys are always White middle class guys, and the good guys Black. Or see "Undercovers" (the Obamas as a spy-couple heroes) or "the Event" (Obama like President) or "24" (Dennis Haysbert as President) or "the Unit" (Dennis Haysbert as leader of a Delta Force unit). Black computer genius, noble purveyor of wisdom, etc. is a TV/Movie trope.

And it is there because the female audience which is mostly White demands it. There is a reason White women love Oprah, "Eat Pray Love" and so on.

Anonymous said...

Dear Poster from 5/15/11 9:32 AM,

You forgot to mention: 6 million, Anne Frank, Trablinka, ovens, "The only democracy in the Middle East", "America's closest friend", "special relationship", terrorists, and Emmit Till. Please try to include the ENTIRE set when discussing these sensitive and complicated subjects.

Anonymous said...

Pepe Lepew is alive and well.

Anonymous said...

It was likely that Sarkozy wouldn't make it to the run-off in the 2012 election if he had to face Strauss-Kahn in the first round:

http://www.euronews.net/newswires/910327-frances-sarkozy-may-not-make-2012-runoff/

He was probably set up.

Anonymous said...

I live in France. I've noticed that ambitious sephardic Jews, such as Sarkozy (he is a descendent of Greek Jews named Mallah) and Strauss-Kahn (a Moroccan Jew, in spite of his German-sounding name) often crave sex with beautiful gentile women, their craving for blondes verges on the pathological. Maybe it's a revenge on the goyim or something. They like ostentatious wealth: expensive suits, Rollexes, Porsche cars. Almost like mafiosi types, with whom they have many things in common. The shorter those guys are, the more accute those characteristics are. They are great sexual harassers in the workplace, especially when they are the bosses.

They like screwing each other: Cecilia, Sarkozy's first wife, eloped with another Jew, Moroccan-born Richard Attias. Interestingly, Cecilia and Attias live in New York.

Americans can consider themselves lucky: most of their Jews are ashkenazim, who seem to be more civilized in this respect.

I feel relieved that Strauss-Kahn is politically dead.



Yeah. For all the negative comments you might hear about Jewish-Americans, most of them are pretty well behaved and civilized in their manners. The Sephardim sound a lot like Middle Easterners or Meditteranean/Balkan/Eastern European whites.

I was surprised to find a Jewish person could be charged with rape, but then it makes more sense when you factor in that Strauss-Kahn is Sephardic.

Anonymous said...

True, but depends on the particulars, too. E.g., most of the rapists in South Carolina are black males, and most of the rape victims are white females.



I thought white Southerners were supposed to be tough. You know, Sons of the South country boy types. Confederate flag on display, gun in the back of the truck, etc.

Anonymous said...

Compared to blacks, are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans any different? Never lived in New York myself, but I heard all three groups are pretty similar.

Anonymous said...

"Compared to blacks, are Puerto Ricans and Dominicans any different?"

It's the weirdest thing: light-skinned Puerto-Ricans behave very similarly to blacks. Safe for the Gypsies, they are the worst-behaved people for their average skin tone that I am aware of. Dominicans are darker than Puerto-Ricans on average, but I for one haven't noticed any differences in the two groups' perceived crime rates or in the extent of their enthusiasm for (c)rap culture.

Svigor said...

Who do you think watches TV? [Women, by about 80% or so.] Why do you think its self-reinforcing uber-liberal (because Women watch it, mostly). Go on any TV forum, and look at the posters, what they say, sex, and so on. It's market research on the cheap. The female audience loves that stuff -- TV is a gay/female ghetto.

So it took 50 years for TV to finally catch up with what women "really wanted to see." In other words, Ashkenazi-Americans are the dumbest #%@!s on the planet.

Prepare your kids, Whiskey. Particularly, flexibility drills - in 50 years they're going to have to do some serious contorting to explain why their TV is as different from TV now as TV now is from TV 50 years ago. Those fickle wymminz!

RKU said...

It was likely that Sarkozy wouldn't make it to the run-off in the 2012 election if he had to face Strauss-Kahn in the first round:

http://www.euronews.net/newswires/910327-frances-sarkozy-may-not-make-2012-runoff/

He was probably set up.


Well, based on the limited information currently out, I find such a "conspiracy theory" to be *awfully* implausible.

Let's use a little common sense. Assuming that IMF guy is innocent, the first thing he and his lawyers will demand is that the hotel maid be given a polygraph test. Now trained agents can supposedly fool the polygraph, but young hotel chambermaids probably can't, and her story will quickly break down. And anyway, assuming that she hadn't started work at the hotel the day before and had been "mysteriously" assigned to the guy's hotel room, how in the world could anyone have "recruited" her into the complex plot so quickly? Think how many agents Sarko would have had to deploy to NYC to set up the operation, and what if one of them decided that someone as rich and influential as the Strauss-Kahn fellow would pay double?

The problem with this sort of ridiculous plot is that it would be extremely difficult and complex to set up, very likely to quickly unravel, and surely send Sarko and his friends off to prison for a long stretch if it did. Remember, the French IMF guy is just as rich and influential in political French circles as his rival.

At the very most, I suppose the encounter with the chambermaid might have initially been "semi-consensual"...but it sure as hell doesn't sound that way. Presumably, in France the guy would have had enough clout to immediately cover it up, but he wrongly assumed his zone of invulnerability also extended everywhere else in the world...

Anonymous said...

"It's the weirdest thing: light-skinned Puerto-Ricans behave very similarly to blacks. Safe for the Gypsies, they are the worst-behaved people for their average skin tone that I am aware of."

Based on my personal experiences, Puertos in NY are a-holes, but NYers are generally rude.
But most Puertos I met in Chicago were rather nice.

Truth said...

Well hey Sports, at least they won't have to change the races on the Marie Schroedinger story.

Mr. Anon said...

"Truth said...

Well hey Sports, at least they won't have to change the races on the Marie Schroedinger story."

Say, did it happen in a UFO too? That Jackson Thoreau sure sounds like a reliable source, especially when he claims that her story is more likely to be true precisely because it is outlandish.

"Truth" certainly works hard at staying so thoroughly misinformed.

Mr. Anon said...

"Whiskey said...

And it is there because the female audience which is mostly White demands it. There is a reason White women love Oprah, "Eat Pray Love" and so on."

You keep sellin' that line, Whiskey, despite the fact that most of us aren't buyin'.

Clearly many women don't seem opposed to programming that extols all things black, but perhaps they wouldn't be opposed to programming that didn't either. They are consumers. They consume. If TV relentlessly pushes a black/gay/minority agenda, it is because that is what the producers wish to produce. And I don't think it is purely accidental.

Truth said...

""Truth" certainly works hard at staying so thoroughly misinformed."

So you believe the "birth certificate, and Barry wasn't born in America" rumors, but you don't believe rumors about Boy George, because the mass media didn't tell you to. Got it.

Anonymous said...

"Police said a 32-year-old cleaning woman accused Mr. Strauss-Kahn of sexually assaulting her in the Sofitel Hotel near Times Square. The alleged victim, a native of Guinea and mother of two, said she entered room 2806, a $3,000-a-night luxury suite, around 12 p.m. on Saturday to clean it, thinking it was empty, according to a law-enforcement official with knowledge of the case."

Guinea is West Africa, which means the accuser is probably dark skinned, overweight, with heavily defined Negro features, meaning she is sexually unappetizing to most white men. I'm now 90% convinced this case is bogus.

Anonymous said...

"comments between about 1am and 5am across numerous different threads, the safe bet is that he's not based in the American timezone..."

Hawaii?

Dave said...

"I live in France. I've noticed that ambitious sephardic Jews, such as Sarkozy (he is a descendent of Greek Jews named Mallah) and Strauss-Kahn (a Moroccan Jew, in spite of his German-sounding name) often crave sex with beautiful gentile women, their craving for blondes verges on the pathological."

There's a David Mamet movie called Spartan where a girl Val Kilmer's character is trying to rescue from a Mideastern country she was kidnapped to starts hitting on him and he rebuffs her advances. "What's the matter," she says, "you don't like blondes?" "The whole world likes blondes," he says, "that's why you're here".

Anyway, there aren't a lot of blonde maids in Manhattan, so I doubt fondness for blondes had anything to do with DSK's case.

"I'm in show business, so let me give you the backstory on this. Originally, executive producer Dick Wolf wanted some minority perps, but L&O's audience didn't like it--so Wolf successfully changed to mostly white perps. Turns out white people don't like watching minorities on TV, and NY white actors wanted the coveted villain roles."

NYPD Blue was a long-running, popular show, and it had plenty of black perps (though still probably 50%+ were whites).

Mr. Anon said...

"Truth said...

So you believe the "birth certificate, and Barry wasn't born in America" rumors, but you don't believe rumors about Boy George, because the mass media didn't tell you to. Got it."

I certainly don't believe everything I read in the mass media. Mass media content is written by idiot J-school grads like you - and you think that water is a fuel.

ogunsiron said...

Guinea is West Africa, which means the accuser is probably dark skinned, overweight, with heavily defined Negro features, meaning she is sexually unappetizing to most white men. I'm now 90% convinced this case is bogus
=====
One of the main ethnic groups in Guinea are the Peuhl. The Peuhl are a little bit like Tutsis : typically tall, thin and with relatively fine features. Don't assume that she'd look like your typical ghetto mamma.
Even if she does look ghetto, I've read that DSK is well known for not being picky *at all*. He is said to harass women of all type, ugly or not.

DSK had even been warned that his antics would cause trouble for him in the USA, where people are rather less tolerant of sexual harassment in general than in France.

Svigor said...

Let's use a little common sense. Assuming that IMF guy is innocent, the first thing he and his lawyers will demand is that the hotel maid be given a polygraph test. Now trained agents can supposedly fool the polygraph, but young hotel chambermaids probably can't, and her story will quickly break down.

I thought everyone already knew polygraphs are shit. Their utility is basically confined to that of a prop used to bluff the uninformed into confessions. Our conspirator-maid would be informed.

David said...

"Future president of France"

They pick 'em in advance. Kings and queens from the international financial elite of bankers.

Martin said...

turns out Strauss-Kahn has been a serial sexual aggressor for a long time but he seems to have been protected by the french media (mostly based in Paris). 9 years ago he invited a reporter/write to an empty hotel room and he jumped on her trying to rip off her clothes:

http://www.businessinsider.com/dominique-strauss-kahn-attempted-rape-allegations-2011-5

quote:
I got out of there and he immediately sent me a text message saying "So, are you scared of me?" ... I had said the word "rape" when we were struggling to scare him, and it didn't seem to scare him, as if he was used to it. After [the incident] he wouldn't stop sending me text messages saying "Are you scared of me?"


back then her mother a member of the Socialist Party pressured her into not making a big deal out of it because it would look bad for the party but yesterday her lawyer said she had finally decided to file a criminal complaint over what happened in that hotel room.

that creep is a really deranged sex & power obsessed psycho. you can read articles in french written 4 years ago predicting his behavior with women would get him in trouble in the US.

what happened Sunday wasn't a set-up nor a conspiracy, the conspiracy was the cover-up of all the previous cases of sexual harassment and attempted rapes by the french elite. He was used to getting away with it but he was finally caught - outside of France.

ben tillman said...

Here's my prediction:

Accuser is probably Hispanic (1 of the dirty little secrets known by all NYC detectives is that Hispanic women file a disproportionate number of false police reports). Said "victim" voluntarily gave oral sex to IMF guy (for a fee, whatever). After the sex act, said "victim" grows a conscience (for whatever reason). Said "victim" calls the police. Said "victim" also most likely has a sleazy reputation.


Can I be your bookie?

Vilko said...

"Famotidina" is the name of a prescription drug, a histamine blocker used to treat and prevent ulcers and gastric reflux.

The name sounds weird, it doesn't sound West African, but who knows, they speak MANY languages out there.

The news of DSK's arrest was known in France a quarter of an hour after the arrest, a young UMP militant twitted the information. The UMP is Sarkozy's party.

The woman allegedly has been working for Sofitel for 3 or 4 years. Sofitel is French-owned, it belongs to the Accor group. Presumably the directors fo Accor have close links to French leaders... and Sarkozy.

Curiouser and curiouser...

Did the chambermaid enter the USA under an alias, a name she read on a box of medicines? Maybe she's not even West African at all!

Whatever... I'm glad that the New York judge mentioned the Roman Polanski affair to deny bail to DSK. Sarkozy's support to child-rapist Polanski made me sick. Now those rich, influential, educated folks have a taste of their own medicine...

Steve Sailer said...

Okay, commenters have submitted two different names for the complainant in this case, so presumably one of them is wrong. I'm going to go slow on approving posting of the name of the woman for various reasons.

Jonathan Silber said...

…blood found on the bed, and threads from an expensive suit found on the waffle maker.

RKU said...

Well, it seems to me the case of the IMF guy falls into a sharply bimodal distribution.

(1) (Much less likely) He's innocent, and it's some sort of plot/conpiracy.

(2) (Very likely) He's guilty. This second possibility seems greatly enhanced by that French journalist who apparently accused him of attempted rape a few years back, and said so on a TV show (though his name was excised in the broadcast).

Now it seems to me that journalists would be about the least likely rape-targets of politicians imaginable, since they could potentially cause so much trouble and at the very least would probably gossip to their friends. Therefore, I'd guess that politicians who go around raping journalists probably go around raping just about everyone else as well, though people never hear about it. So under case (2), I wouldn't be surprised if the IMF guy has raped an enormous number of women over the years, dozens perhaps even hundreds. And it's all been covered up by the French elites and their own dishonest MSM.

I'll admit it's been many years since my old H.S. English Lit class, but didn't Dickens' Tale of Two Cities open with an account of exactly this sort of repeated misbehavior on the part of the Old Regime elites, and portrayed it as a major cause of the subsequent outbreak of widespread head-shortenings? On the other hand, I suppose those old elites were also incompetent, corrupt, and parasitic, which obviously stands in sharp contrast to our current ones today...

I also think there have been a few NYT articles describing reasonably credible claims that Kim, the God-Emperor of North Korea, had a tendency to amuse himself by raping local women, or at least that he used to do so in his younger days. Naturally this was covered up by the NK media. But maybe if we read Korean, we would have discovered that Kim's newspapers had been saying exactly the same thing for all these years about the IMF guy...

Steve Sailer said...

Or it could be that he has a long track record of bad behavior _and_ he was set up in this instance. "Bitch set me up!" as another politician once said.

SF said...

What's the guy worth, anyway? I'm sure the state of New York is almost as broke as California. They turned down $1 million cash bail offered by the defense. What if he could come up with $20 million. Then he would be France's problem, with a ruined reputation, no longer rich and personna non grata in the US. One million for the victim and 19 million to keep the state of New York running for a few days. Alternatively, the state can plan for a trial costing high six figures with appeals, and 10 years of room, board and medical care for him.

elvisd said...

"you can read articles in french written 4 years ago predicting his behavior with women would get him in trouble in the US. "

Have a link? I'd like to see this. I'm curious if said articles warn against "la puritanisme anglo-saxon".

Anonymous said...

"ambitious sephardic Jews, such as Sarkozy"

Sarkozy is only 1/4 Jewish through his grandfather, Benedict Mallah, who converted to Catholicism to marry his ethnic French grandmother. Papa Sarkozy descended from the Hungarian lower nobility.