May 19, 2012

Euphemisms guide for parents of foreign students

After the tragic murder of two Chinese USC students, their parents are suing the college on the grounds that USC's marketing materials described the campus as being in an "urban" location. In China "urban" means good things (fewer pig in street, no have to bend over all day in rice paddy), while "suburban" sounds like "below urban" to literal-minded Asians. We should create a dictionary of American euphemisms for their safety. I'll start:

Urban -- 1. Antonym of Urbane.  2. All right, try hard to picture the Latin Quarter on the Left Bank in Paris, where students have congregated for a millennium. Okay, got that? Well, it's not like that.

Vibrant -- 1. Boring.  2. Terrifying.

White bread -- 1. Where Asian parents want their children to live. 2. Incomprehensible ethnic slur.

135 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wow real mature Steve. Surprised you didn't add me so horny there.

Anonymous said...

O/T: Was Facebook investor Eduardo Saverin an affirmative action admit at Harvard? (As a Hispanic?)

Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook said...

Tolerance - n. 1. Rigidly enforced proscriptions on behavior/speech

Nonprofit - adj. Of a virtuous pursuit essential to society's continued functioning

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed the Westmorelandesque joke about the Asian mind but then again, not my pig being gored. USC should adopt No Tickius Non Washium for its motto now

Anonymous said...

Eduardo is Brazilian so he is not a Hispanic.

Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure Saverin is Jewish-Brazilian. Are Brazilians considered hispanic? I think Steve made a post about that.

Brazilian said...

"Youth" is my favorite euphemism.

Assistant Village Idiot said...

(I generally disapprove of censoring comments, but Steve, this anon at the top guy has got to go.)

"Empowering students" = Certain beliefs are highlighted, grading is easy, and hard sciences aren't required. Basically, Disempowering students.

Anonymous said...

The classics: Bad neighborhood = black neighborhood. Bad school = black school. Good neighborhood = white neighborhood. Good school = white school.

People, including all the liberals I have ever known, use "good" and "bad" like this all the time, and every American understands what they mean. But it's not "racist."

Anonymous said...

culturally enriched = significant quantity of, or pertaining to black people

Anonymous said...

Am I wrong in noticing more trolls on this site than normal? Damn pattern recognition.

Anonymous said...

"Vibrant" is one of those loaded words I have my radar antennae set to. The more "vibrant" the community or area, the faster I get out of there.

Anonymous said...

Surprised you didn't add me so horny there

Isn't that Vietnamese/Thai?

Anonymous said...

Saverin is Jewish

Piechocki said...

Sailer stop the racist Asian crap. I'd still have it job at NR if u weren't such a provocateur...lol

Anonymous said...

I can guess which group definition 1 for "Vibrant" is, and which group definition 2 is for.

Maya said...

"Saverin is Jewish"

That doesn't disqualify him from the Hispanic diversity goodies. I've met a Jewish boy on a Hispanic scholarship.

Anonymous said...

Lost in translation.

Anonymous said...

Do you have coke?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fd7_1337115037

Potato Jim said...

I did my grad work in a quiet peaceful college in a rural setting.

One of the grad students from China who was new there was paranoid that there was danger lurking around every turn. He told me he felt safe when people were around, and that in China, it is the rural areas that are dangerous- the big cities are well policed and monitored.

I tried to convince him (with I think at least a little success) that it is the opposite in the US.

Anonymous said...

Multiculturalism - obsessive cultural assertiveness, much to the detriment of social capital

The Achievement Gap - that evil, persistent gap between test scores of various races, conveniently barring Asians

Anonymous said...

Beige, bland, boring - adj. Desirable community to live in.

Anonymous said...

Funniest iSteve post ever.

Anonymous said...

Words mean different things to different people. For some, 'liberal' means free market. For others, it means statism.
Same with 'urban'. For some, it means yuppies. For some, it means Negroes.
This lawsuit has or should have no legs to stand on... cuz everyone would be suing everyone. I mean we are surrounded all around by euphemism.

This is especially funny coming from Chinese, who have a long history of using all sorts of euphemisms. I mean 'great leap forward' indeed. Chinese, with their culture of bogus politeness, have a long history of prettifying things with fancy or misleading words.

And if the Chinese should be suing anyone, it's their own people for making all sorts of dangerous products but selling them as safe, making all sorts of bogus medicine but selling them as real medicine.

But I guess it's more lucrative and safe to sue Americans. It's like blacks should complain more about bad blacks, but it's more lucrative to bitch about whites.
White people are the only people generous to listen to complaints and give accusers a chance in court

Anonymous said...

Euphemisms galore.. Should we be suing?

1. Affirmative action.

2. Same sex marriage.

3. Undocumented immigrant.

4. Tax credit.

5. Teens and youths.

6. Inner city.

7. Misguided.

8. Uninhibited. (In reality, CRAZY blacks).

Anonymous said...

I spend a fair ammt of time at USC. The administration did a great job building a wall around the campus with very high security.

As such I think the campus itself is exceptionally safe

the problem is that grad students tend to live off campus and subject themselves to the terrible crime of the surrounding neighborhood.

It seems to me that the solution is very simple - build a few high rises similar to what you see on the Wilshire corridor in Westwood - 50 story high buildings - build these INSIDE the walls, so that the students that live in them are 100% safe. If the University would only build enough attractive housing and restaurants and bars INSIDE the campus walls, then students would not venture outside the campus walls and they would be safe. This method would probably dramatically increase the prestige of USC an attract even more students, and it would help USC avoid the humiliation that comes from having students murdered. Seems like a win win

Can anyone with more knowledge than me explain why USC hasn't implemented my plan yet ?

anony-mouse said...

Er,

The Left Bank of the Seine is safe now that its a tourist trap.

It wasn't in the eras of 'La Boheme' and 'Down and Out in Paris and London'.

Now if by 'urbane' you mean tourist trap...

Anonymous said...

Flash Mob -- 1. White people participating in a choreographed dance, dramatic theater or jovial snowball fight in public

2. Black people using overwhelming numbers to rob, assault and/or kill White and sometimes Asian people. Usually organized via Twitter or text message

see also: youths, teens

Anonymous said...

Don't forget Liz Lemon's "an uptown gentleman" for black pimp. One of 30 Rock's better moments.

Actually that show got or gets away with a large amount of racist humor because Tina Fey is always very careful to emphasize what an SWPL leftist she truly is at heart. Same with Larry David's Curb Your Enthusiasm. So long as at all other times they make a big song and dance about what a true believer leftist they are, a white celebrity can actually get away with racist humor in the 2012 USA.

Anonymous said...

Feminist Studies - the study which explains how every disappointment that women experience or short coming they exhibit is due to White Males. Useless degree except to train other Feminist Studies majors over a long course of study called a PhD. See also African-American Studies; Hispanic Studies; and Jewish Studies.

PhD - 1. in Liberal Arts and Social Sciences refers to Piled High and Deeper.
2. in the Hard Sciences actually refers to a genuine degree achieved after an advanced course of study called a Doctorate degree.

MSM - a/k/a Main Stream Media refers to the national media of the United States whose owners and employees all actually reside in a very small island in New York called Manhattan.

Diversity is Strength -- Slogan used by certain persons in the U.S. to mask crime and other unpleasantness resulting from introducing diverse populations to each other.

California kid said...

Steve,
Did you see the L.A. Times article on it ? I think it was in Section 2, above the fold. They showed two pictures of a couple Mexican drug gang members(in an unrelated story) right below the Asian grad students story. Then they screened down the Mexican's photos so they looked more like White men. A casual observer just glancing at the paper might be led to believe that two White guys pulled the trigger on the Asian students. I'm sure that's the desired effect, at the Times.

This fits in with my idea of how the Times thinks. They only want to depict White people as bad. If you're a person of color, they want to protect you. A person from a distant city subscribing to the Times by mail before moving here, might well think that all criminals in L.A. are White.
I'm going to say it. The USA in this era is one of the top degenerate societies of all time.

ben tillman said...

After the tragic murder of two Chinese USC students, their parents are suing the college on the grounds that USC's marketing materials described the campus as being in an "urban" location.

In other words, they're suingbecause they don't speak English. Lovely.

Thrasymachus said...

Urban, suburban, exurban, rural- all these terms are completely irrelevant to the safety of an area. All that matters is the racial makeup of the area, as is easily determined by the census map- http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2010/map

and as I have explained for foreigners myself- http://deconstructingleftism.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/a-note-to-foreign-readers-on-street-safety-in-the-us/

Anonymous said...

Someone write a book: Euphemism for dummies.

Steve Sailer said...

"In other words, they're suing because they don't speak English"

They don't speak American.

Anonymous said...

Eduardo is Brazilian so he is not a Hispanic.

Brazilians are considered Hispanic/Latin American for purposes of U.S. affirmative action in education.

Anonymous said...

Words mean different things to different people.

So is a Jewish person who has lived in Brazil a Hispanic?

Anonymous said...

Hell with words. Just pass out maps and tell Chinese 'black areas no good'.

Just make sure it ain't her who's passing them out:

http://youtu.be/qQdhMSEqhfg

Anonymous said...

On another topic, that might interest some:

Now in your kids' bedroom: how the evil whites mistreated the good black folks -- http://www.ted.com/talks/brenda_brathwaite_gaming_for_understanding.html?utm_source=newsletter_weekly_2012-05-19&utm_campaign=newsletter_weekly&utm_medium=email

Nota bene: she has three biracial children from a (as expected) previous marriage...

Bill said...

fewer pig in street, no have to bend over all day in rice paddy...

It's funny because it's true.

Also, urban Chinese are way wimpier than peasants. A Texan I used to hang out with in China once said "the heaviest thing they lift is money."

In the country, on the other hand, the people are frighteningly strong, even when they're small. Urban Chinese are particularly terrified of strapping northern peasants, who tend to man the construction brigades by day and drink baijiu at night in cheap gambling establishments.

When a group of dongbei (NE China) migrant laborers gets out of hand, watch out!

It may sound odd to Americans, but I bet a wealthy Shanghai or Hong Kong Chinese would be safer in a poor, Pacific NW logging town full of huge Nordic Americans than in some poor rural town in NE China. Over here, we really only see a thin slice of the Chinese people.

Anonymous said...

From Mish's Global Economic Analysis blog:


The deflationary overhang of student debt is enormous. Those in debt will postpone buying homes, getting married, starting families, and spending money in general.


Was student debt all a conspiracy to reduce affordable family formation and reduce the percentage of white births?

sabril said...

Maybe it's time to update Ambrose Bierce's classic "Devil's Dictionary."

Anyway, my contributions:

"Diverse" Having a lot of black people.

"Homogeneous" Having a lot of white or oriental people.

"Lack of Opportunity" Wealth of opportunity but too stupid to take advantage of it

"Social justice" Transferring wealth away from white men

"Racism" the idea that NAM failings are not solely the result of white misconduct.

"Low self-esteem" unrealistically high self-esteem

"privilege" any advantage disproportionately enjoyed by whites

"bigot" anyone who does not accept the currently fashionable Leftist thinking

"homophobe" anyone who does not accept the currently fashionable Leftist thinking about homosexuality

"Islamophobia" the idea that Muslim misbehavior is not simply a reaction to Zionism.

"racist" - a white person who avoids NAMS without telling himself and others that NAM misbehavior is a result of white misconduct.

"filibuster" 1. An underhanded conservative technique to subvert the democratic process and hold it hostage. 2. A brave and noble liberal method to stand up for minority rights.

DYork said...

Perpetrators of Crime:

"Hate" = White

"Racist" = White

"Random" = black or to a lesser degree hispanic

"Street" = black or to a lesser degree hispanic

"Gun" = disproportionately black or to a lesser degree hispanic.

Anonymous said...

"Saverin is Jewish"

That doesn't disqualify him from the Hispanic diversity goodies. I've met a Jewish boy on a Hispanic scholarship.



Harvard had an Indian (Cherokee) minority law professor who was not even a Cherokee.

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:19 She left out it was introduced by a Black Man, that Marie-Thereze Coincoin was one of the largest slave owners but was not an obese black woman, that Blacks were one of the largest owners of slaves but then American education has declined with affirmative action.

Anonymous said...

Am I wrong in noticing more trolls on this site than normal?

Axelrod has a lot more "astroturfers" on his payroll in an election season.

Remember - the guy is Scots-Irish - so he isn't gonna pay for the astroturfing in the off-season if he doesn't have to.

Anonymous said...

Wow real mature Steve. Surprised you didn't add me so horny there.

His imitation Chinese correctly used the word "fewer". That's something 90% of Americans can't do properly - how often do you hear "less people"?

confusion of tongues said...

I wonder if such a guide/lexicon needs to go wider, forget about the foreign students niche, because this is getting tough to keep up with. Prof. Warren's traditional family "Windsor crab" recipe seems strikingly like a neglected omen of the coming PC absurdity singularity; we have truly reached the heights of up-is-down, day-is-night in this culture.

Anonymous said...

OT:
The New York Times seems like the gay town news these days. Has there been a homosexual coup there?

Anonymous said...

Vibrant -- 3. Block after block of bodegas, hair salons, and pizza places.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps "suburban" will take on a new denotation via immigrant misuse... It sounds more like a candidate for cop irony though ("Man, uptown sure has changed with all these sub-urban people moving in")

Anonymous said...

http://www.theeuropean-magazine.com/679-pinker-steven/680-better-angles-of-our-nature

Anonymous said...

http://www.epjournal.net/

Anonymous said...

war on terror = wars for Israel

Anonymous said...


"He has also vowed to submit legislation that would give immigrants (third-country nationals, that is, not citizens of an EU country) the right to vote in local elections, a Mitterrand-era pledge that was never fulfilled."

Anonymous said...

"He also committed to unflinching support for laïcité (the separation of church and state) and to a more muscular approach to asylum cases and undocumented immigrants."

"Undocumented immigrants" = illegal aliens

Drunk Idiot said...

Anonymous (5/19/12 3:59 PM) said...

"Wow real mature Steve. Surprised you didn't add me so horny there."

At least he had his fictional Chinese parents say "fewer pigs in street," rather than "less pigs in street."

Most native-English-speaking Americans don't get that one right.

So iSteve's fictional Chinese peasants still display a conscientious attention to detail that the typical American lacks.

BTW, "me so horny" is Vietnamese, not Chinese.

Anonymous said...

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137562/melissa-benn/school-wars-the-battle-for-britains-education

guess who attends the op schools

Anonymous said...

racism = any observation of race that does not promote the narrative of "whites bad, all other races good."

an honest discussion about race = a discussion in which black participants get to tell all their grievances against whites, but in which white participants do the same only at their peril. This is a classic trap not only for foreign college students but also for white students coming from rural areas. They have no idea that, as a white, you're not supposed to do anything in these situations except agree with what blacks say. (The same is true, mutatis mutandis, for "an honest discussion about gender.")

- A Solid Citizen

Anonymous said...

http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/137562/melissa-benn/school-wars-the-battle-for-britains-education

"Benn contrasts this with the experience of countries that have maintained the most uniform and universal systems -- such as Canada, Finland, and South Korea -- and, as a result, continue to top global measurements of national educational performance."

But more 'diversity' makes more people opt out of public ed system.

SK anf Fin are more homogen and canda more than amka.

Anonymous said...

@anon 1;19
whenever i see 'ted'.com i assume smug, narcissistic, self righteous SWPL bs, as shallow and empty as malcolm gladwell.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 1;19 AM see this comment on the Ted Thread (it will probably be deleted - swpl don't like to hear that they are not open minded and tolerant.:

Can we have a game to show how 3 million + white Europeans were enslaved by Muslims? Or a game to demonstrate the blood tax on white christian children by the sulton? Or one where a spanish town under moorish rule had to give up their most beautiful virgin girls to be sex slaves of viziers?

How about a game that demonstrates the effect of cultural marxism in stifling free speech?
Or one were secular humanists (you know like ted talks ) destroy churches and gun down clergy for not renouncing Christ, as was done by the republican fighters in Spain and Bolshiviks in Russia.

Here's another fun one: College Human Rights Commission: where you have to go in front a virtual committee and renounce your 'hate speech'

How about crowd sourcing to get anyone who speaks the truth about the failure of multiculturalism to be fired from their jobs, like Buchanan, Naomi Rilely, John Derbyshire, and so on...

But keep patting yourselves on the back about how 'smart', 'tolerant' and 'bright' you all are. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Steve,
I can remember just a few years ago, even a PC guy like Rick Steves wrote in his guidebooks 'watch out for gypsies near the train station'.
It is literally illegal to say that in Europe now, and technically, you could be arrested for being in possession of such a guidebook.

Rough guides CLAIM to be 'edgy' and 'real' but the are the most PC of all. Someone could make a killing writing politically incorrect travel guides.

rob said...

"In other words, they're suing because they don't speak English"

They're suing because the university told them it was located in a densely populated area. It was actually located in an area full of savage negroes.

Though people who eat babies shouldn't really complain about much.

Camlost said...

Another hilarious euphemism - "at-risk kids"

Anonymous said...

"Hell with words. Just pass out maps and tell Chinese 'black areas no good'."

Gentrification Technique no good!

TomV said...

Anony-mouse:

The Left Bank of the Seine is safe now that its a tourist trap.

I bet you go to Time Square and think the entire Midtown is a tourist trap,too. Everything looks like a tourist trap to a trapped tourist (inside his own smug mind)

jody said...

ed saverin's parents are rich. could be a case of "the harvard number".

when you have so much money that you can jet set around from country to country, and pick foreign nations to land in and settle down in at will, the harvard number scenario is a possibility.

Anonymous said...

slightly off-topic, but the 'real' definition of 'advocate:' someone who has a personal and financial interest in seeing that a problem grows.

Anonymous said...

"Now in your kids' bedroom: how the evil whites mistreated the good black folks" - That is going to backfire on them, every game that I've seen that portrays slavery basically has it being horribly broken and effective.

SFG said...

"(fewer pig in street, no have to bend over all day in rice paddy)"

Whatever dude. Never underestimate your competition. 50 years from now when we're all working for Chinese conglomerates not burdened by any sense of Christian ethics or Renaissance humanism, it won't seem so funny.

Anonymous said...

Saverin was great at math, made hundreds of thousands of dollars in the stock market in high school, created mathematical models of hurricanes in his spare time, and had better entrance stats than the median Harvard student. Also, he's Jewish.

Anonymous said...

If some bad things are made to sound nice, some good things are made to sound awful.

Thus..

Honesty on race: 'hateful'.

Honesty on 'gay marriage': 'odious'

Honesty on 'illegal invasion': 'noxious'

Honesty on Obama: 'divisive'.

It's almost like we need new fields of inquiry called odiology and noxicology.

Anonymous said...

What's the word for using negative terms to describe positive things?

you-fume-ism?

walter condley said...

'urbane,' if it were still used, would probably mean "not uncomfortable with homosexuals."

Anonymous said...

In absence of racial profiling, we have verbal hinting.

Btw, what goes by the name of 'racial profiling' is racial-sexual-age profiling. After all, cops(and undercover plain clothes cops)don't usually pay much mind to old blacks or female blacks(at least not as much as male blacks).

Cops are on the lookout for YOUNG-MALE-BLACKS. But it's seems okay to suspect males and youths of crime, but okay to add race to age and sex.

Anonymous said...

Chinese victims should have been armed like Zimmerman was. But maybe they were armed only with eggrolls--and homework.

Anonymous said...

But there is an element of CLASS in this. We have poor folks in the US but the Chinese kids drove BMW's and were part of the new globalist rich. So, I don't see much sympathy for them coming from left or right.
That the poor Chinese got so rich so fast--at least some of them--and drive around in BMW's in college towns in the US may not go well with many Americans. I mean even most white kids from rich families don't own BMWs.

So, in a way, there are two sides to this story:

1. Black crime and liberal lies.

2. Chinese are the New Global Rich and showing off like princelings not just in China but over here, and so there's some justification to 'social rage' that robbed and murdered them.

kaganovitch said...

for another installment of name those youths! see

http://www.suntimes.com/12640681-761/suspects-wielding-hammers-and-batons-attack-diners-at-tinley-park-restaurant.html

I'm guessing yet another incident of mormon on mormon violence

a very knowing American said...

Poor Chinese kids. When their parents and grandparents were growing up, it could be a matter of life or death not to confuse "permanent revolution" (a brilliant Maoist insight) and "continual revolution" (a vile Trotskyite deviation). The kids make it to America, and discover it can be a matter of life or death not to confuse "downtown" ("When you're alone / and life is making you lonely / you can always go ...") and "inner city."

Get Off My Lawn! said...

I mean even most white kids from rich families don't own BMWs.

Yes, it's pretty tacky to give your child a new luxury car for college. In fact, it's nouveau riche, which of course is what these students' families are. If they were the children of American new money, there wouldn't be much sympathy, but the tendency of upper middle class Americans to give extra leeway to foreigners (as discussed on the other campus diversity thread) may outweigh the snobbery.

Another one for the euphemism guide:

"In transition," as in "a neighborhood in transition" = formerly impoverished, dangerous hellhole now being overrun by yuppies. Probably safe by day but still unsafe by night, despite all the good restaurants.

Note that "in transition" is not the same as "changing," as in "the neighborhood is changing." The latter nearly always means that the area is deteriorating fast and you should keep you children away from it.

Remember: "Transitioning" neighborhood = GOOD. "Changing" neighborhood = BAD.

Anonymous said...

"Honesty on 'gay marriage': 'odious'

They also call it "creepy". I've seen this many times. The media calls anti-gay sentiments "creepy".

Anonymous said...

Someone could make a killing writing politically incorrect travel guides.

That's one of the things I love about the WPA travel guides from the 1930s. Even though they were sponsored by the federal government, they were full of straight talk that no reputable publisher would permit today.

- A Solid Citizen

Anonymous said...

White power! Hahaha!

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's pretty tacky to give your child a new luxury car for college. In fact, it's nouveau riche, which of course is what these students' families are.

http://dailytrojan.com/2012/04/15/usc-tragedy-demands-unity-not-division/

The USC paper says it was a 2003 beemer. Other accounts indicate it was a recent purchase in preparation for job interviews - one vic had gotten his Masters and the other was about to get hers.

Anonymous said...

war on terror = wars for Israel

Hear! Hear!

Drunk Idiot said...

kaganovich,

"for another installment of name those youths! see

http://www.suntimes.com/12640681-761/suspects-wielding-hammers-and-batons-attack-diners-at-tinley-park-restaurant.html

I'm guessing yet another incident of mormon on mormon violence
"

In this case, it would appear that the "youths" weren't who you think they were.

First of all, the restaurant where the incident took place is an Irish establishment located in an area that's home to a large Irish population (the South Side Irish diaspora). When news of the beat-down first broke, it was reported that the diners who were attacked had identified themselves to restaurant staff as being members of an "Irish heritage group."

But today it's being reported that the diners were part of a skinhead group, and that their black-clad attackers were anti-racist anarchists (at the moment, Chicago is full of anarchists who've set up shop for this weekend's NATO summit).

So, if news reports are true, this attack appears to be a case of violent anti-racist SWPL anarchists beating purportedly Irish skinheads in an Irish restaurant in a heavily-Irish neck of the woods.

But it doesn't appear to involve the vibrant "youths" you're thinking of (although, in addition to being heavily Irish, the area in question is also heavily Palestinian -- so its possible that the attackers could have included Arab "youths").

BTW, Chicago isn't known for having a large Mormon community. But you seem to be aware of that, as evidenced by your "mormon on mormon violence" quip.

Truth, however, is sometimes stranger than fiction (especially in Chicago, which, as iSteve knows, is probably weirder than California -- the so-called capital of weirdness). The cover of the current issue of Sports Illustrated features a high school basketball phenom from Simeon High School on the South Side of Chicago (alma matter of NBA star Derrick Rose) named Jabari Parker, who's widely considered the best high school basketball player since Lebron James.

Here's the twist: Parker is a devout Mormon who's said to be seriously considering postponing his basketball career in order to decamp on a Mormon mission.

Anti-racist SWPL anarchists (assuming they weren't Arab Muslims) beating purportedly Irish skinheads in an Irish restaurant and devout Mormon high school basketball basketball stars from the hood . . . only in Chicago (especially the South Side).

Anonymous said...

http://youtu.be/GZRIMQxje7k

formerly no name said...

Truth, however, is sometimes stranger than fiction (especially in Chicago, which, as iSteve knows, is probably weirder than California -- the so-called capital of weirdness)

Florida became the capital of weirdness a generation ago. But the whole country has become weird except maybe North Dakota.

David Davenport said...

ISteveniks,

what do you think of Mark Zuckerberg's choice of bride?

Good for liberal Jews, don't you agree?

Anonymous said...

Saverin ... had better entrance stats than the median Harvard student.

Evidence please.

Harry Baldwin said...

What's up with these anarchists? Are they willing to do some serious jail time for their shenanigans, or do they always get away scot free? I've never read about any anarchist trials.

kaganovitch said...

Drunk Idiot wrote "In this case, it would appear that the "youths" weren't who you think they were.etc."

Thanks,learn something new every day. Chicago is one strange place!

Anonymous said...

This reminds me of an observation Adam Carolla recently made on his podcast. He said that while LA is merely scary, Detroit is Omega-Man scary. Thought that was amusing, and true. SeanS

Ron Woo said...

"In China "urban" means good things (fewer pig in street, no have to bend over all day in rice paddy), while "suburban" sounds like "below urban" to literal-minded Asia"

Sailer, for a guy who concerns himself with cultural and racial differences you are quaintly naive about the Chinese and Asians in general.

I've never seen pigs in the street of even county-level districts anywhere in China.

I really don't find Chinese to be that literal-minded - they often complain that Westerners do not comprehend irony in Mandarin. Even if they were, however, there is a perfectly workable translation of "suburb" into Chinese - "jiaoqu."

I think the problem here is that the parents of foreign exchange students were completely unaware of some of the heinous violence to be found in American ghetto environs.

Drunk Idiot said...

"Sex-Positive," "Empowered," "Feminist":

Educated, upper middle class, white professional young woman who grew up in relative affluence, attended the right schools and who spends her post-collegiate single years living in a big city partying and "having fun' (i.e., sleeping around).

"Party Girl," "Slut," "Skanky Ho":

Middle class or lower white young woman who didn't grow up in affluence (i.e., a "prole"), didn't attend the right schools (go State!) and who spends her post-collegiate single years partying and "having fun" (i.e., sleeping around).

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 7:22 AM
The Ted comment you posted certainly got my attention. Reading about viziers and bolshiviks makes me feel undereducated.
Here it is again for all to enjoy.

Can we have a game to show how 3 million + white Europeans were enslaved by Muslims? Or a game to demonstrate the blood tax on white christian children by the sulton? Or one where a spanish town under moorish rule had to give up their most beautiful virgin girls to be sex slaves of viziers?

How about a game that demonstrates the effect of cultural marxism in stifling free speech?
Or one were secular humanists (you know like ted talks ) destroy churches and gun down clergy for not renouncing Christ, as was done by the republican fighters in Spain and Bolshiviks in Russia.

Here's another fun one: College Human Rights Commission: where you have to go in front a virtual committee and renounce your 'hate speech'

How about crowd sourcing to get anyone who speaks the truth about the failure of multiculturalism to be fired from their jobs, like Buchanan, Naomi Rilely, John Derbyshire, and so on...

But keep patting yourselves on the back about how 'smart', 'tolerant' and 'bright' you all are. Pathetic.

Drunk Idiot said...

formerly no name,

"Florida became the capital of weirdness a generation ago. But the whole country has become weird except maybe North Dakota."

Florida became the capital of white trash dysfunction. People may call that weirdness, but it's really something else -- degeneracy.

Chicago is weird, but not really degenerate. It's just full of all kinds of quirks.

Classic California weirdness was the byproduct of the state being a magnet for liberal nuttiness. For generations, the nation's freak-a-zoids gravitated to the Left Coast.

Florida weirdness, by contrast, is the byproduct of crystal meth.

Aside from wealthy parts of south Florida (some of which are plenty weird on their own), Florida is a magnet for the nation's white trash masses. Most of the "weird" stories that come from Florida are really white trash stories.

Take, for example, a recent "weird Florida" experience of mine: about a month ago, yours truly had to go to Jacksonville for a couple days. On a Monday morning, I got propositioned by white trash prostitutes twice while merely going about my business in decent parts of town.

The first (toothless) white trash prostitute came up to me in a grocery store parking lot as I was getting out of the car. Again, this didn't happen in a sketchy neighborhood. The grocery store was on University Blvd. -- right around the corner from Jacksonville Beach and the Jacksonville Mayo Clinic (a decent area).

The meth-head hooker was just hanging around the parking lot, propositioning all the men who pulled up. The hooker caught me off guard, as I was going into the grocery store to get energy drinks and some gum ... not to get gummed.

The second white trash prostitute came up to me as I was pumping gas at a gas station off 95 and University Blvd. (in an office park district, not in a bad area). She was milling around the gas station parking lot and approaching all the men (nobody took her up while in the short time I was there ... not even the "undocumented" workers filling up their landscaping truck). Her meth-induced physical decay wasn't quite as advanced as that of the first hooker, but she was still an obvious tweaker.

Outside of Florida, there aren't too many parts of the country where you're likely to get propositioned by nasty meth-head white trash hookers while going about your business in perfectly reputable parts of town at 11:00 AM.

But again, that kind of Florida degeneracy is different from California weirdness or Chicago quirkiness.

europeasant said...

Things are getting tough all over!

"A law enforcement source Sunday said the group beaten at a Tinley Park restaurant Saturday was made up of white supremacists, and those who assaulted them were protesters attacking their beliefs.

Police had five people in custody after the attack, which occurred at The Ashford House, 7959 W. 159th St. No charges had been filed yet, and the suspects did not appear in bond court Sunday.

Tinley Park Mayor Ed Zabrocki on Sunday said police do not know if the protesters had any connection to the NATO Summit in downtown Chicago.

He said police still have 35 to 40 people to interview, and charges could come Monday.

“The guys we have in the lockup are still not talking, at least not this morning,” Zabrocki said.

Beckie Williams was among the victims Saturday. Williams, who said she lives near the Quad Cities, said her group is called the European Heritage Group and they are not white supremacists."

http://www.suntimes.com/12658014-761/source-group-beaten-at-tinley-park-restaurant-were-white-supremacists.html

Maya said...

"ISteveniks,

what do you think of Mark Zuckerberg's choice of bride?

Good for liberal Jews, don't you agree?"

I think it's clear that Mark Zuckerberg doesn't give a damn what liberal Jews, ISteviniks or people on the internet who were having a fit when the young lady's pictures first went viral think about him or his personal decisions. I imagine he just goes for what he wants and doesn't think about the sheeple at all.

Drunk Idiot said...

Just for the record, I like Florida. But the sunshine state has too much white trash.

There's also a clash of cultures that can make parts of Florida seem "weird" or "quirky." But that's natural for a place where traditional southern culture brushes up against white trash transplant culture, oldster retiree culture, East Coast Italian culture, New York Jewish culture, Caribbean culture, South American culture, Haitian culture, gay culture, redneck culture, surfer culture, etc.

There are lots of great places in Florida. Overall, however, Florida is the kind of place that's great to visit, but where you'd might not want to live (at least not for the long-term).

It's truly a joy, though, to drive around the Miami area listening to local radio. Radio is too homogeneous in most of America. Not so in south Florida, though!

Scan the dial and you'll hear Salsa y Merengue stations, Haitian preachers riffing in Caribbean-accented French, Black and white preachers riffing in English, Top 40 stations where the on-air personalities speak in Spanglish, and urban stations where the DJ mixes blend hip hop hits of the moment, bass-heavy Miami-style hip hop, raggaeton and South Florida's timeless, ubiquitous anthem (it's not a proper Miami DJ mix without Barry White's Love Unlimited Orchestra!).

Drunk Idiot said...

Europeasant,

Now there are reports that the people who got beat up by violent anti-racist liberals in the Ashford House restaurant in Chicago's South Suburbs (which, by the way, is a popular restaurant) were white supremacists from Stormfront.

It wasn't too nice of the marauding anti-racists to smash up the perfectly nice restaurant where the alleged Stormfronters were dining, but hey, who doesn't hate Illinois Nazis!?!

ATBOTL said...

Where I live, there is a university who's foreign grad students have been repeatedly murdered while working jobs that no sane American would take, like pizza delivery in a notorious 98% black ghetto. I always thought the university should have warned them about these kinds of jobs. Even listing to rap music might have saved them.

Anonymous said...

"Where I live, there is a university who's foreign grad students have been repeatedly murdered while working jobs that no sane American would take, like pizza delivery in a notorious 98% black ghetto. I always thought the university should have warned them about these kinds of jobs. Even listing to rap music might have saved them."

Let me guess... Atlanta?

Anonymous said...

How is Zuck any different than any average Joe who marries his high school or college sweet heart, but who trades up later in life?

Anonymous said...

"In other words, they're suing because they don't speak English"

They don't speak American.


Winning comment.

So is a Jewish person who has lived in Brazil a Hispanic?

According to American demographic theory, anyone who can contribute to the Latino tidal wave gets to be a precious "one drop" in that wave.

Rough guides CLAIM to be 'edgy' and 'real' but the are the most PC of all. Someone could make a killing writing politically incorrect travel guides.

I've sketched out chapters for a Politically Incorrect Schoolteacher's Survival Guide. I even ran some through a couple of lib blogs, and nothing, I mean nothing, I have ever posted anwhere got more vitriolic, longer, obsessive comments than those.

David said...

"Creepy" is indeed the new word. It is perfectly child-like and feminine. It conveys a real emotion: bewildered discomfort and fear of the unfamiliar - generally, of thinking. Thus science fiction is "creepy." Math is "creepy." Independent films are "creepy." White people are "creepy." Grammar is "creepy." Statistics are "creepy." Thoughtcrime and hatefacts are doubleplus "creepy." Anything outside the faux safety of the unthinking herd is "creepy."

We have 18+ -year-olds walking around with the minds and emotions of 4-year-olds.

Perspective said...

Drunk idiot wrote:
"Just for the record, I like Florida. But the sunshine state has too much white trash.

There's also a clash of cultures that can make parts of Florida seem "weird" or "quirky." But that's natural for a place where traditional southern culture brushes up against white trash transplant culture, oldster retiree culture, East Coast Italian culture, New York Jewish culture, Caribbean culture, South American culture, Haitian culture, gay culture, redneck culture, surfer culture, etc."

Whenever I hear/read some really bizarre news coming from the US, the first thought that pops in my mind is that this must have happened in Florida. On the whole, I'm usually proven right. There was actually a fairly interesting article written on the subject of Florida weirdness. http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/24/florida-americas-weirdest-state/

Excerpt from the article: "Florida is undeniably a quirky place. But among many journalists and news junkies, the Sunshine State has developed a reputation for being the state that generates the most weird news and the weirdest weird news.

How did a state once famous for its oranges and seniors turn into a hub for all things strange?

According to Florida resident and weird news legend Chuck Shepherd, Florida emerged as a weird news capital a little more than a decade ago."

Anonymous said...

Well, Oxford academy in Cypress is the number one high school in Ca, a magnet school which is mainly asain and hispanics are at 15 percent and whites 12 percent, its apart of the Anaheim school district which explains whites at only 12 percent.

formerly no name said...

Classic California weirdness was the byproduct of the state being a magnet for liberal nuttiness. For generations, the nation's freak-a-zoids gravitated to the Left Coast.

California's historic weirdness was due to stuff like bohemians migrating to the Bay Area (as far back as Jack London's mother), transplanted Midwesterners and Southerners joining oddball religious cults and eccentric, non-scary heterosexuals like "Nature Boy" Gypsy Boots laying the groundwork for the Hippie movement.
In the era of sacred LGBT, Hipsters, IT Geeks, Mexicanization, White Flight and the leftist destruction of the CA economy there's no room for authentic weirdness in CA.

Anonymous said...

California in the 1960's mainoly So Ca was known as the Capital of modern conservatism read Suburbian Warrors that both Orange County and San Diego not the south were the big pushed for the modern conservative movement. People should realized that the lost of OC and Sd is more tragic than most of the southern cities to the Republicans but most Republican politcans did policies that drove whites out of OC and Sd and increase hispanic and asian populations. So, no Ca was not know for leftist in the 1960's only in the Bay area.

Dutch Boy said...

In my San Francisco days, the downtown hotels were giving out a map that made it look like a short walk from downtown to Golden gate Park. Alas, not only was it several miles but the route led through the Western Addition (Ghetto). After several foreign tourists were raped, robbed, murdered, etc., the cops demanded that the hotels stop issuing the maps.

Londoner said...

Some good youthemisms here. How about "fight" - a vicious, unprovoked assault on a white person or persons by a black person or persons.

Anonymous said...

This took place in a top Chinese business school 2 yrs ago. True story:

Professor: Name a major factor that drags down the American economy?

Student: Brack people.

Professor: Correct.

(Yes, Beijing professional schools often conduct classes in English.)

Anonymous said...

It wasn't too nice of the marauding anti-racists to smash up the perfectly nice restaurant where the alleged Stormfronters were dining, but hey, who doesn't hate Illinois Nazis!?


I'm remarkably indifferent to Illinois Nazis. But I'd like to believe that even if I hated them, I'd still think it was wrong to attack people for their beliefs.

Anonymous said...

This took place in a top Chinese business school 2 yrs ago. True story:
Professor: Name a major factor that drags down the American economy?
Student: Brack people.
Professor: Correct.


"Top place" for what?

Anonymous said...

Ron Woo: I think the problem here is that the parents of foreign exchange students were completely unaware of some of the heinous violence to be found in American ghetto environs.

My impression about foreigners, from talking to more than a few, is that they think of the US as a hyper-violent society where death lurks behind every shadow. This, of course, is courtesy of the saturation coverage of headline incidents like Columbine, Virginia Tech, and so on, as well as Hollywood action flicks that many perceive as representative of ordinary life stateside. This lawsuit isn't about misunderstandings - it's about trying to get a settlement from USC so the parents can recover their substantial investments in their kids' educations. The amounts involved were probably slightly north of $100K in each case. Based on the fact that the victims lived in the ghetto, I'd say that the parents probably spent their life savings putting them through school, and were counting on cash flow from those kids after graduation to pay the bills.

Crawfurdmuir said...

Steve Sailer wrote: "All right, try hard to picture the Latin Quarter on the Left Bank in Paris, where students have congregated for a millennium. Okay, got that? Well, it's not like that."

The Left Bank was a pretty violent place in the mid-fifteenth century. One need only examine the criminal record, still extant at the Châtelet, of one François de Montcorbier, alias des Loges, alias Villon, alias Michel Mouton - Master of Arts of the University of Paris, also burglar, robber of church poor-boxes, murderer, and quite incidentally the greatest French poet of his day, or perhaps ever.

Riots and street affrays were commonplace. In 1452,
the lieutenant of criminal police, Jehan Bezon, deposed that "a large number of students have created great disturbances, for example by stealing and breaking up at nights with great noise the signs hanging outside houses of this town, at the same time crying, 'kill, kill!' in order that citizens should open their windows to see what was happening. They have also stolen hooks from the butchers of St.-Geneviève and abstracted fowls from St. Germain-des-Prés, and have taken away by force a young woman at Vanves... Also, they proceeded to the Halles to take the sign of the 'Spinning Sow,' but as the ladder, they say, was too short the student who climbed it to take the aforesaid 'Sow' fell to the ground and was killed..."

On the feast of St. Nicholas that year, the Paris police department had its revenge upon the students. The sergeants of the guard began by roughing upo some students, then broke into a house at the sign of St. Estienne, belonging to a priest named Andry Bresquier, then away saying mass - wrecking and looting it under their lieutenant's orders. Having sacked this house, they broke into another at the sign of St. Nicholas, smashing windows and drinking all the wine they could find; next entering the Collège du Coquerel, they found a barred door, behind which was a professor Maistre Darian, lecturing to an audience of forty students. They battered down the door, threatened the master, and carried off his pupils, marching them roughly through the streets.

All this and more may be found in D.B. Wyndham-Lewis's biography of Villon, from which the above accounts are extracted.

In fifteenth-century Paris, the Chinamen would have been no more safe than in today's Los Angeles - but might at least have had the consolation of being murdered by a more literate mob of criminals than ply their trades today in southern California. Those criminals, in their turn, stood at least a good chance of being hoicked up on the gallows of Montfaucon by that admirable public servant, the hangman of Paris - for whom, unfortunately, Los Angeles has no modern equivalent.

Steve Sailer said...

Nature Boy -- He was this totally 1960s California hippie who was a celebrity briefly in the ealry 1950s for having a hit song.

Anonymous said...

violent anti-racist liberals
most of the time they get off with 'slaps on the wrist' if that. As for 'neo nazis' you realize, according to SPLC types, that describes everyone here??

Anonymous said...

"Top place" for what?

Probably just about anything. Jon Huntsman might be an Ivy League grad, but he pronounces Chinese the way someone fresh off the boat from China speaks English. And I suspect that's pretty much the pattern for the average foreign language student in any college anywhere in the world.

Anonymous said...

An interesting perspective from a black Stormfront-type website, which quotes one of the perps, Javier Bolden, as saying:

Without regard: In my country taking advantage of opportunities not afforded to me.

Amusing headline from another black website:

Not In Memory of Ming Qu & Ying Wu: Los Angeles Black Foot Soldier Icon Javier Bolden Shows Off Gun (on Myspace) Used to Defend Self Against Anti Black USC Students Accused of “Social Advancement at Expense of Blacks”

Steve Sailer said...

Also, Florida has writers specializing in tales of local weirdness, like Carl Hiaasen, and general purpose writers who emphasize it a lot, like Dave Barry.

Anonymous said...

Also, Florida has writers specializing in tales of local weirdness, like Carl Hiaasen

I like Hiaasen, but if his stories were true to life, most of the criminals would be black, which would harsh the mellow of a big chunk of the guy's white liberal readers, not to mention make his books a lot more dreary and depressing.

Anonymous said...

Classic California weirdness was the byproduct of the state being a magnet for liberal nuttiness.

And hi-tech nerdiness.

Anonymous said...

David said...

"Creepy" is indeed the new word. It is perfectly child-like and feminine.

And cowardly.

It conveys a real emotion: bewildered discomfort and fear of the unfamiliar - generally, of thinking. Thus science fiction is "creepy." Math is "creepy." Independent films are "creepy." White people are "creepy." Grammar is "creepy." Statistics are "creepy."

More examples of this doublethink:
Witches, pagans, vampires, and satanists are creepy - but Muslims, especially black ones, are not. Hitler is creepy, but Castro and Che can never be, and as for Pol Pot, everybody forgot about him.

We have 18+ -year-olds walking around with the minds and emotions of 4-year-olds.

The emotions of 4-year-olds combined with the subconscious prejudices of grouchy half-dead 80-year-olds.

Londoner said...

Mrs Romney is "creepy" according to Ms Goldberg, no? Such fertility!

elvisd said...


Outside of Florida, there aren't too many parts of the country where you're likely to get propositioned by nasty meth-head white trash hookers while going about your business in perfectly reputable parts of town at 11:00 AM.


My friend, you need to experience the glories of Jackson, Mississippi, then.

"Creepy" is indeed the new word. It is perfectly child-like and feminine.

It's the more lowbrow, teenagerly way of saying "crypto-". Remember "crypto-fascist"? Like creepy, it's a vague term to sling when the target hasn't actually done anything, but you just don't like them.

Anonymous said...

It's the more lowbrow, teenagerly way of saying "crypto-". Remember "crypto-fascist"? Like creepy, it's a vague term to sling when the target hasn't actually done anything, but you just don't like them.

"Creepy" is really the PC, post-homophobic way of saying "fag", "faggot", or "screaming faggot".

It's just a meaningless insult exposing the user's own stupidity and hypocrisy.

Drunk Idiot said...

Some of those "youths" who smashed up the restaurant in Tinley Park, IL, have been arrested.

Their mugshots are up at the Chicago Tribune.

All of those who were arrested (including two of the diners who were attacked) live far from Chicagoland.

From the article:

The melee Saturday at the restaurant appears to have been the work of protesters who wanted to attack a gathering of alleged white supremacists, the mayor and a law enforcement source said previously.

Tinley Park Police Chief Steve Neubauer said all five men are charged with aggravated battery, mob action and criminal damage to property. The group includes three brothers, Jason W. Sutherlin, 33, of Gosport, Ind., Cody Lee Edward Sutherlin, 23, of Bloomington, Ind., and Dylan James Sutherlin, 20, of Bloomington, Ind. Alex R. Stuck, 22, of Bloomington, Ind., and James S. Tucker, 26, of Spencer, Ind., are also charged, he said.

In bond court today, bail was set at $250,000 for Jason Sutherlin, $200,000 for Cody Sutherlin, and $175,000 for Dylan Sutherlin, Tucker and Stuck. Their next court date is set for June 12.

Two men who were with the group that was targeted during the attack were also arrested, Neubauer said. Steven Eugene Speers, 33, of Grand Forks, N.D., was wanted on a warrant from Dallas County, Texas, for possession of child pornography, he said. Francis John Gilroy Jr., 65, of West Palm Beach, Fla., is charged with unlawful possession of weapons by a felon.

In court today, prosecutors said the victims were members of the Illinois European Heritage Association. Neubauer would not discuss whether they were part of a white supremacist group.

Anonymous said...

Actually, with the exception of Paul and Jan Crouch of TBn, Ca was not influence by the south on religion. Paul and Jan Crouch which are pentecostial wealth gospel are Okies not from the Deep South. David Berg and the Children of God, Berg spent several years in La and I belive his backgrouns is more midwestern. He's the only real cult person in Religon in So Ca during the late 1960's. Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel was born in Ventura and Rick Warren of Saddleback in Northern Ca. Maybe, Heaven's Gat in the 1990's had an southrn background. Hare Khirsta's because Ca was getting more foreign born by that when Ted Kennedy changed immirgation in 1965.

tellemand said...

I keep remembering Florida as the place where a bunch of black "youths" forced a Haitian mother and her 12 year old son to do sexual things to each other while being tortured. The victims were apparently decent sort and were deeply traumatized by the "youths" who were about as low as any "humans" I've ever heard of. Then most of the foreign tourist murders seem to happen in black neighborhoods in Florida. Do they hand out ghetto maps and say it's Disney World in European travel agencies?

Anonymous said...

"'Top place' for what?"

I just meant it is an elite school. I don't want to be specific b.c. my friends and family are familiar with the anecdote and might identify me. I love this site, but I am sort of paranoid about friends and family knowing I spend time here. Of course, if they found me, it would mean they are here too.

Anonymous said...

As a public service to foreign communities abroad may I offer a free tip on euphemisms here in the USA;

VIBRANT.

(Official meaning).

Pulsating with vigor and energy.

(My real world definition).

Get the hell out of there fast.

Evil Sandmich said...

I'd sent this story (not this blog post) to our Chinese exchange student, and I honestly thought that it would tell her something she already knew (this is her 3rd year in the U.S.), but:
Her: "You said that 'urban' areas are dangerous".
Me: "yeah...".
Her: "But 'urban' means 'city'".
Me: "yeah...".
Her: [puzzled look]