From the LA Times:
Carlos Gutierrez, who led Mitt Romney’s outreach to Latinos during the presidential campaign, had harsh words for the former nominee Sunday as he joined the growing number of conservative voices calling for immigration reform.
I don't know, but a mustache, hand gestures, and gold cufflinks apparently can't hurt. From Wikipedia:
Carlos Miguel Gutierrez (originally Gutiérrez) (born November 4, 1953) is an American former CEO and former U.S. Cabinet Member who is currently a Vice Chairman of Citigroup's Institutional Clients Group. He has previously served as the 35th U.S. Secretary of Commerce from 2005 to 2009. Gutierrez is a former Chairman of the Board and CEO of the Kellogg Company.
Gutierrez was born in Havana, Cuba, the son of a pineapple plantation owner. Gutierrez is of Spanish and French descent. As a successful businessman, his father was deemed an enemy of the state by Fidel Castro's regime. ... Gutierrez learned his first words of English from the bellhop at the hotel where they initially stayed ...
Someday, when historians have a better sense of humor, the Amnesty Act of 2013 will be known as Katherine of Aragon's Revenge. If only Henry VIII had been a nicer husband, all this unpleasantness could have been avoided.
P.S., I think I'll grow a mustache so I can be an immigration expert, too. Growing a mustache is cheaper than buying gold cufflinks.
The point of the Latin American mustache is to prove you are not too much of an Indio, right?
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All you really need is one grandparent born in Latin America.
Why the resignation?
We need to act in 'meat space' instead of just bitching about this. I realize that is not everyone's forte, but this is critical. CIS, Californians for Population Stabilization, etc. There must be some avenue.
Your link to the first image of Carlos Gutierrez doesn't work. Amren doesn't like hotlinking: "The owner of this website (www.amren.com) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Carlos-Gutierrez.jpg)"
These guys are really shameless.
Maybe it's because these guys are from a feudal culture with peasant clients. As opposed to the Anglo independent yeoman and middle-class culture.
There is something common between Obama and guys like Gutierrez. Both of them have been promoted throughout their lives for being "diverse" despite having relatively privileged backgrounds and not really reflecting the "disadvantaged" minority background they're supposed to. Gutierrez no doubt has been promoted to various corporate boards and high position jobs for being "Hispanic" despite not reflecting the disadvantaged mestizo background that it's supposed to refer to.
Carlos Gutierrez, who led Mitt Romney’s outreach to Latinos during the presidential campaign, had harsh words for the former nominee Sunday as he joined the growing number of conservative voices calling for immigration reform.
No doubt it was guys like Mitt Romney that promoted Gutierrez into the formerly exclusively WASP worlds of American corporate boards and high powered government positions. And now he's throwing him under the bus.
The guy is the worst.
Well, Glen Beck has even gone a little soft on the illegal immirgation he had a piece by Samuel Rodgeuiz why we need immirgation reform, Beck appeals to hardline Teaparty folks. Some where mad and said they were leaving the Republican party.
Steve, I think you are on to something that this is some sort of continuation of the English-Spanish rivalry. They, Spanish and Hispanic elites, are still smarting over the sinking of the armada and the continuation of being on the losing side of conflicts with the English speaking world. In fact on rare occasions when the Spanish were on the winning side against England, the North American English colonists were the beneficiaries. Gracias, omigos!
I find it interesting that by their behavior they do indeed consider America to be an "English" nation at the same time they preach this propositional nation crap. As such they see the continuation of the Spanish-English rivaly in America's wars with Mexio and Spain.
Unfortunately those on our side think this sillyness ended with the sinking of the armada, or the taking of Puerto Rico. Thus, they see no danger in not just admitting members of this competitive civilization, but in actually making them the dominant demographic group.
Here is a quote from a Venezuelan journalist, Carlos Rangel, that seems to confirm this English-Spanish divide continuing between those nations former colonies.
"For Latin Americans, it is an unbearable thought that a handful of Anglo-Saxons, arriving much later than the Spanish and in such a harsh climate that they barely survived the first few winters, would become the foremost power in the world. It would require an inconceivable effort of collective self-analysis for Latin Americans to face up to the fundamental causes of this disparity. This is why, though aware of the falsity of what they are saying, every Latin American politician and intellectual must repeat that all our troubles stem from North American imperialism."
Wow, Carlos started out growing pineapples in Cuba, moved up to peddling Sugar Smacks and now is selling financial Froot Loops to institutional clients. America is truly the land of opportunity!
Yes, because a man named "Carlos Miguel Gutierrez" of Spanish descent could have successfully run for president or be appointed to be Supreme Court Justice in the traditional Anglo América that existed from the 1630s to the 1960s, huh?
I mean, there was never ANY discrimination againt these people, so how DARE they side with fellow Spanish-speaking people instead of the Anglo América that Always treated them as their EQUALS?
I mean, when the Federal Government decreed that any Cuban national would become an American citizen by setting foot in América after the Communist revolution, Congressmen received thousands of letters from angry citizens about how they didn't want "these people" there.
So much for Anglo love for the Spaniard of the Américas!
Steve wrote, I don't know, but a mustache, hand gestures, and gold cufflinks apparently can't hurt.
I find it amazing how much clothing and hair styles can change the appearance of people so much as to confuse others as to one's ethnic background.
As others have pointed out, Don Franciso is Jewish. His parents were German-Jewish refugees who fled to Chile. This guy should look like nearly every other New York Jew, but I never would have known he was a Jew. By his hair style and mannerisms, I would have thought he was hispanic hispanic.
I won't be surprised if he beomes the next hispanic leader demanding immigration reform.
Nick Diaz - you do understand that your comments entirely justify the view that Anglos should never have been liberal enough to let in your people, let alone non-whites.
That guy Gutierrez looks somewhat like Maximillian Schell. A fine spokesman for the downtrodden latino masses.
Having failed in defending their peonage-based society in Cuba, a lot of Cubans seem intent on reestablishing it here.
Nick Diaz,
How much of the New World do Hispanics and Latins want? The English speaking world has Canada, the USA and Australia. Latins have everything from Mexico to Argentina. Is that not enough? Must the US and Canada too become part of Latin America?
"Nick Diaz said...
Yes, because a man named "Carlos Miguel Gutierrez" of Spanish descent could have successfully run for president or be appointed to be Supreme Court Justice in the traditional Anglo América that existed from the 1630s to the 1960s, huh?"
Benjamin Cardozo - he was a supreme court justice in the 30s - of portugese jewish descent.
And anyway, why should America - a nation derived from british traditions and briish culture - be especially open to those of iberian descent?
"I mean, when the Federal Government decreed that any Cuban national would become an American citizen by setting foot in América after the Communist revolution, Congressmen received thousands of letters from angry citizens about how they didn't want "these people" there."
In hindsight, perhaps they wouldn't have, although it's not as if they had been asked anyway. And they never expected that, once here, Cubans would be trying to subvert the traditional character of this nation.
"Anonymous said...
Nick Diaz - you do understand that your comments entirely justify the view that Anglos should never have been liberal enough to let in your people, let alone non-whites."
I don't think he understands much at all.
"Yes, because a man named "Carlos Miguel Gutierrez" of Spanish descent could have successfully run for president or be appointed to be Supreme Court Justice in the traditional Anglo América that existed from the 1630s to the 1960s, huh?"
More elected leaders in America with names like "Carlos Gutierrez" than elected leaders in Mexico with names like "Bill Jones."
So much for Anglo love for the Spaniard of the Américas!
Nick, I admit I am biased against Latin American immigrants. With Chinese, Indians and Africans, one can make the argument that they, like the Europeans of a century ago, are fleeing the old world. But Latin Americans are part of the new world and their nations are as young as the US. There is no reason they should not be as wealthy as the North Americans.
As such I view the Anglo-Latin divide like two brothers getting an equal inheritence with one of them squandering it and then demanding assistance from the frugal one. It's just hard to have sympathy for a group of people who have done so little with so much. The least they could do is be grateful when they arrive and adopt tne norms and customs of this country.
Not all Cuban-Americans are from the parasitical elite. Meet some Cuban-Americans from the group that had to work for a living back in Cuba and came to the U.S. without an American bank account and you'll have a higher opinion of them.
Unfortunately parasites in Miami and New York think they get to speak for all Cuban-Americans and the media doesn't do enough to hear the voices of the other Cuban-Americans.
Risto
Nick Diaz - Would your ancestors be proud that you have become such a whine-american? Please no more Whine-Americans.
To Nick Diaz:
Your posts are so ridiculous it is hard to know where to start. Assuming your not a troll, but just a clown,,,,
"from the 1630's to the 1960's.."
Uh, America didn't even become a country until 1776, so that section of your comment is absurd right there.
In any case, as to your vague term "Spanish speaking people", by which I assume you mean Hispanics, they were just 1% of America's population as late as 1910. They were barely a trace element of the population of the USA.
You seem to not be able to differentiate between preference and prejudice. There is nothing "prejudiced" about Americans who had lived in North America for generations preferring a president who looked, sounded and was from much the same stock as themselves. How many Finnish, Ukrainian, Estonian, Portugese, Danish, Slovakian, or a dozen other European ethnicities I could add, have been elected president? Undoubtedly a great conspiracy against them, huh? How many Latin American countries (which have never been strong on democracy) have elected an Anglo to be their president?
How much of the New World do Hispanics and Latins want? The English speaking world has Canada, the USA and Australia. Latins have everything from Mexico to Argentina. Is that not enough? Must the US and Canada too become part of Latin America?
Guys like Gutierrez are land barons who were kicked out by Castro and lost their plantations. So they're trying to set themselves up as land barons here.
Actually he was ahead of the Chamber of commerce under Bush and the Bushes probably had Mittens put him on his staff.
"I mean, there was never ANY discrimination againt[sic] these people, so how DARE they side with fellow Spanish-speaking people instead of the Anglo América that Always treated them as their EQUALS?"
Let them side with fellow Spanish-speaking people.
Better still, let them reside alongside their fellow Spanish-speaking people in a Spanish-speaking country.
Is there concern for the reality of race? Or racial discrimination?
Wait... You mean Hispanic pandering? Remember when the Republicans propped black Republicans in the 90's? We were not surprised by their existence.
But a Hispanic, you really got to go out of your way for. Perhaps they should pander to 'Asians'? How many self-hating anglos are there? By the way non-afrocentic blacks are anglo. Can you do a story on that? Also Hispanics not a race; it is a culture. Just like 'anglo' is a culture.
Being a Yankee paleo, i think blacks should move back down South. Then they will help with the hispanic problem. You racialist, Southern paleo-con.
P.S.
Hispanics are not New World. They are Old World. And they are Catholic. Of which i think that and the Spanish/Portuguese influence makes them so.
Latin? What's that? An identity complex?
@anonymous 8:23 PM
"Nick, I admit I am biased against Latin American immigrants. With Chinese, Indians and Africans, one can make the argument that they, like the Europeans of a century ago, are fleeing the old world. But Latin Americans are part of the new world and their nations are as young as the US. There is no reason they should not be as wealthy as the North Americans."
There are many reasons. The most obvious is that the countries of Latin America were founded as extractivist colonies, where a few men established a feudal system with them at the top and the rest of the population as their identured servants. Conversely, in the U.S, English colonists came and founded a petit bourgeoise Society, with the principle of equality before the law, business freedom and no nepotismo/cronyism(control of the state by private interests). HUGE DIFFERENCE. If you actually knew something of history, economic theory and geopolotics you would know that. And here is the thing: the Latin Americans who are alive today were bornm there for no fault of their owh. They are not to "blame" how their socities were organized 500 years ago.
" such I view the Anglo-Latin divide like two brothers getting an equal inheritence with one of them squandering it and then demanding assistance from the frugal one. It's just hard to have sympathy for a group of people who have done so little with so much. The least they could do is be grateful when they arrive and adopt tne norms and customs of this country."
What are you talking about? What welath squandering is this? Americans of European Spaniard ancestry, like Cuban-Amerians and old Tejanos and Califonios, are MORE afluent and educated than Anglo Americans. They committ less homicides and crimes in general.
What does it take to be a GOP anti-white racism expert?
There are a few ways to read that.
Do you mean an expert in racism who also happens to be anti-white (which covers 99.9% of all racism experts)?
Do you mean a proficient exponent ("expert") of racism against whites ('anti-whitism')?
Or do you mean someone with high degree of knowledge in the ways that anti-whitism operates and the beliefs that motivate and sustain it?
I think the GOP could use a few of the last.
I mean, there was never ANY discrimination againt these people, so how DARE they side with fellow Spanish-speaking people instead of the Anglo América that Always treated them as their EQUALS?
On the other hand, Nick, have latinos made life a living paradise for whites, or have they made it more hellish? If the latter, then honestly, why should whites have ever allowed latinos into their territory in the first place?
The question I'm sure never occurs to the Nick Diaz's of the world because the idea that "whites are people too" lies way outside their concept of reality. ("Wha...? Whites?... People?...with interests of their own?...pure crazy talk!) Well, it's hard to see discrimination when you're anti-white, I guess.
P.S.
Hispanics are not New World. They are Old World. And they are Catholic. Of which i think that and the Spanish/Portuguese influence makes them so.
Latin? What's that? An identity complex?
That doens't make sense. If you are going to call them old world because they are Catholic and have Spanish/Portuguese influence, then you would have to call the USA and Canada old world since we have English and other European influence as well as Protestant and Catholic influences.
The old world-new world terminology was invented by Europeans when they found out there was more to the world than Europe, Asia and Africa. Hence, new world refers to those newly established nations that were taken from the aboriginal inhabitants of North and South America and Australia and New Zealand.
Latin Americans, Latinos, Hispanics or whatever you want to call them are New World.
sylvester the cat
I don't know about 'Katherine of Aragon's revenge' - something that is mostly forgotten by Spaniards.
- It's more like 'Paddy's revenge'.
Lest we forget it was Teddy Kennedy and his 1965 Act that set the whole ball rolling. If it wasn't for that Act, we wouldn't even be discussing this.
Of course the Kennedy caln was ferociously anti-English, and by extension anti-WASP. The 1965 Act was a way of cocking a snook at the English.
A commenter on another post says:
"They tend to be physically big men, with lots of dark hair, pure Castilian ancestry, sometimes moustachieod, an imposing well groomed demeanour and basically the phenotype of a 'don' or 'grandee' from old Spain. You know the type well educated, well spoken, cultured, firecely right wing and catholic and having 'good Iberian features'. You can almost imagine them surveying their estates on horseback wearing a black leather wide brimmed hat."
This guy's grooming makes Mitt Romney look like Joe Slabotnik.
The point of the Latin American mustache is to prove you are not too much of an Indio, right?
Could be. Those of us with more Amerindian genes tend to grow facial hair in the same pattern as East Asians.
...I think you are on to something that this is some sort of continuation of the English-Spanish rivalry. They, Spanish and Hispanic elites, are still smarting over the sinking of the armada and the continuation of being on the losing side of conflicts with the English speaking world.
Do you include successful Hispanics who assimilate into American culture in the set of Hispanic elites? The large majority of high IQ Hispanics assimilate into American culture.
"They tend to be physically big men, with lots of dark hair, pure Castilian ancestry, sometimes moustachieod, an imposing well groomed demeanour and basically the phenotype of a 'don' or 'grandee' from old Spain. You know the type well educated, well spoken, cultured, firecely right wing and catholic and having 'good Iberian features'. You can almost imagine them surveying their estates on horseback wearing a black leather wide brimmed hat."
Kinda like the Spanish twelve-string guitar version of this. Actually we could use more of these guys cracking the whip on the peons. Lord knows we have enough peons.
I wonder if he was the CEO of the Kellog Company when it started funding voter fraud. See here:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/12/snap_crackleracist.html
Joe H.
Actually Reagan Act in this case was a bigger influence since it allow millions to bring people in under Kennedys act. Reagan is the cause.
Doctor Nick: There are many reasons. The most obvious is that the countries of Latin America were founded as extractivist colonies, where a few men established a feudal system with them at the top and the rest of the population as their identured servants.
And the Anglos should make this lousy political culture their problem by letting in its carriers en masse, why, exactly?
Conversely, in the U.S, English colonists came and founded a petit bourgeoise Society, with the principle of equality before the law, business freedom and no nepotismo/cronyism(control of the state by private interests). HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Why yes. Anglo political culture is vastly superior to Latin political culture. Common sense would dictate that Anglos be leery of letting too many Latins into their nations, or letting them have much political influence until they'd been sufficiently enculturated to the Anglo Way.
This is what many commenters have been trying to explain to you. Maybe it's finally sinking in.
And here is the thing: the Latin Americans who are alive today were bornm there for no fault of their owh. They are not to "blame" how their socities were organized 500 years ago.
But contemporary Anglo-Americans owe you massive reparations because Thurston Howell I didn't invite your great-grandfather to his soirée.
I think you're giving Whiskey a run for his money, Nick. So who was she, the little WASP minx who spurned your advances?
"Nick Diaz said...
There are many reasons. The most obvious is that the countries of Latin America were founded as extractivist colonies, where a few men established a feudal system with them at the top and the rest of the population as their identured servants."
So why is it that that was the only kind of colonies that iberians seemd capable of creating?
And anway, the posters point was that he was for him and his over you and yours. Why shouldn't he be? Why should I champion some other, alien people. Why should I go out of my way to help someone like you. Especially someone like you - a snotty idiot.
"HUGE DIFFERENCE. If you actually knew something of history, economic theory and geopolotics you would know that."
You can stuff your "smarter than all of you attitude". You aren't, you stupid asshole.
I guess some latinos are perpetually aggrieved that their culture has so little to recommend it.
"And here is the thing: the Latin Americans who are alive today were bornm there for no fault of their owh. They are not to "blame" how their socities were organized 500 years ago."
Soooo.... Mexicans in Mexico alive today are not at fault for the fact that their countries today are shitholes, it's all due to decisions made by Mexicans 500 years ago, see, for which today's Mexicans are not responsible to fix.
HOWEVER, on the other hand, according to Mr. Diaz, us White Americans in America today must take in and give up political power to vast hordes of Mexicans fleeing shithole Mexico because of (maybe) decisions White Americans made 500 years ago but for which, he insists, White Americans alive today ARE responsible to fix.
So Mexicans are NOT responsible adults, but White Americans ARE -- and not only responsible for their own messes, but everybody else in the world, too.
Funny, that.
"Anonymous said...
Lest we forget it was Teddy Kennedy and his 1965 Act that set the whole ball rolling. If it wasn't for that Act, we wouldn't even be discussing this."
Apparently, we already have forgotten. It was called the Hart-Celler act, and it was introduced into Congress by Representative Emmanuel Cellar. You might well ask yourself what clan he belonged to, and why it was he was that he was so anti-WASP.
Of course the Kennedy caln was ferociously anti-English, and by extension anti-WASP. The 1965 Act was a way of cocking a snook at the English.
Anonymous 8:51 PM
"Your posts are so ridiculous it is hard to know where to start. Assuming your not a troll, but just a clown,,,,"
Ah, starting the debate with insults. Don't start this with na air of superiority because you don't have one over me. I am way smarter than you. Way smarter. I have already considered everything that you might say, and even things you haven't even thought about yet. Talk respectfully to me.
"Uh, America didn't even become a country until 1776, so that section of your comment is absurd right there."
Wrong. The first English colonies in North América were founded around the 1630's. The founding of the U.S as NATION-STATE in 1776 is NOT the beggining of Anglo América.
"In any case, as to your vague term "Spanish speaking people", by which I assume you mean Hispanics, they were just 1% of America's population as late as 1910. They were barely a trace element of the population of the USA."
Right. And the Brahmin WASP families from Boston, Philadelphia and New York represented 0.001% of America's population, and how many presidentes did they make?
"You seem to not be able to differentiate between preference and prejudice. There is nothing "prejudiced" about Americans who had lived in North America for generations preferring a president who looked, sounded and was from much the same stock as themselves."
That is the very definition of prejudice! You are using the terms as synonyms.
"How many Finnish, Ukrainian, Estonian, Portugese, Danish, Slovakian, or a dozen other European ethnicities I could add, have been elected president? Undoubtedly a great conspiracy against them, huh? How many Latin American countries (which have never been strong on democracy) have elected an Anglo to be their president?"
Doesen't mean that they COULDN'T. That is what you are unable to understand. There could be many diferente reasons other than prejudice for why na American of Dannish descent never became president. But he COULD. Could one of Spanish or Portuguese descent? No.
Owned.
If that's so why is it at least in California, hispanics are only 7 percent in Newport Beach a city that does have millionaires and billionaries. There may be more of the old Mexican wealth in Texas.
Why do the big banks (such as Citigroup, Gutierrez's employer, which, by the way, is the ongoing beneficiary of unlimited newly-printed dollars, which included $16 trillion printed for the benefit of the big banks in 2008-9 alone) support open borders? Here are some reasons:
1. Jewish influence. Jews support open borders as one way of eliminating any remaining power of white American male goyim.
2. They are international banks. As part of their efforts to woo Latin American mega-rich customers, they try to make the U.S. more Latin American friendly. Do your kids want visas? No problem. Your relatives want green cards? No problem, etc. International bankers are always obsequiously nice to the multi-billionaire foreign "other."
3. Real estate churn. Steve Sailer is the only person I know of who has noted that banks and real estate interests benefit when whites have to flee neighborhoods overrun by NAM's. There's lots of money to be made from real estate churn caused by white flight.
4. More customers in general. Citigroup would rather have a U.S. with 40 million illegals than a U.S. with no illegals. More banking business for them.
5. Reduces more Americans to debt slave status. In the old days, there were middle class Americans who escaped debt slavery. By reducing wage levels through open borders, more Americans are forced into debt slavery, many of them paying high credit card and subprime interest rates.
6. Adds to national debt. Citigroup and other too-big-to-fail banks make billions off activities related to the national debt. They have an interest in seeing it get larger. One good way to get it larger is to invite illegals and put them on welfare.
7. Strengthens financial position of major corporate loan customers. When wage rates are cut, corporations make bigger profits. That increases the value of any affected corporate debt the bank may own.
I am sure there are other reasons, but those are some.
In U.S. politics, the big banks are like God ("If God is for us, who can be against us?" Rom. 8:31). If the big banks want open borders, they get open borders. End of story.
Talking about Loundon Co Va a lot of immirgants have moved into the place, its an Orange County Ca of the northeast thought as having money but a lot of immirgants, asian and hispanic. Ann Couter stated it lost 10 to 15 percent of the white population. Jefferson Co is the same it lost a lot of white popuation and hispancs moved in. These are figures that the New Republic doesn't discuss and Bush made it hard for any white candidate since the economic housing bubble. Also Romeny did good in rural areas in some blue states, in Oregon over 70 percent and in California in places like Modoc. Republicans are now more popular with rural than Urban or Suburban which have a lot of immirgants.
An article by Nate Cohn in the current New Republic argues, as the title puts it: "The GOP Has Problems With White Voters, Too." As proof, Cohn cites Jefferson County, Colo.; Loudoun County, Va.; Wake County, N.C.; and Somerset County, N.J., all of which went Republican in presidential elections from 1968 through 2004, but which Romney lost in 2012.
Smelling a rat, I checked the demographic shifts in these counties from the 2000 to the 2010 census. In each one, there has been a noticeable influx of Hispanics (and Asians, who also vote Democrat), diminishing "the white vote" that Cohn claims Republicans are losing.
Between the 2000 and 2010 census, for example, the white population of Jefferson County declined from more than 90 percent to less than 80 percent, while the Hispanic population more than doubled, from 6 percent to 14 percent.
In Loudoun County, the Asian population tripled from 5 percent to 15 percent and the Hispanic population doubled from 6 percent to 12 percent. Meanwhile, whites plummeted from 83 percent to 69 percent of the population.
Similarly, Wake County shifted from 74 percent white to 66 percent white in the past decade, while the Hispanic population doubled, from 5 percent to 10 percent, and the black population stayed even at about 20 percent.
In Somerset County, the Hispanic population grew by 63 percent and the Asian population grew by 83 percent since 2000. The number of whites has remained steady, resulting in a population that is now just 62 percent white.
These were the counties chosen by Cohn, not me, to show that Republicans are losing "the white vote." Except they're not so white, anymore. With blacks, Asians and Hispanics voting 93 percent, 73 percent and 71 percent for Obama, Republicans have to do more than just win the white vote. They have to run the table.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ann-coulter/2012/12/05/ann-coulter-column-were-reaching-demographic-tipping-point#ixzz2EQHcEFCK
Indeed. Catherine of Aragon had red hair and blue eyes. If anything, she looked more "English" than her husband (who had a fair amount of Celt from his Welsh forbears), yet always seems to be depicted on film and television as dark-haired and dark-eyed.
Nick Diaz said...
@anonymous 8:23 PM
There is no reason they should not be as wealthy as the North Americans
There are many reasons.
in the U.S, English colonists came and founded a petit bourgeoise Society
I thought this was a HBD blog.
@Nick Diaz, assuming he possesses any intellectual good faith whatsoever:
Why not consider Mario Vargas Llosa's position? In the early
'90's, the heyday of whining about American 'imperialism,' he pointed out that the most likely reason for the economic backwardness of Latin America was, quite simply, Catholicism. You're probably aware that the most famous Spanish writers, such as Unamuno and Perez Galdos, spoke of fatalism as a central component of Catholic thought. That being the case, why shouldn't a dynamic economy such as that of the U.S. in the time period you mention have preferred non-catholic political leaders? Hmmmmm?
Ah yes, the traditional scapegoating of Jews. So uber-powerful with their mind-control rays.
You see this same Open Borders BS in places like oh, I dunno, AUSTRIA. Or GERMANY (it might surprise you -- not too many Jews in either place). Or Sweden, anti-Jew central these days.
US non-Religious Jews (Reform or Secular) are pretty much SWPL central. Going along to get along. Part of the same urban professional left wing mass, in what Half Sigma calls value transference occupations, wanting cheap labor, anti-White policies, a massive, hard-left Welfare state as part of an anti-White male agenda.
If the nation were run according to what most Straight White guys wanted, you'd see well, colonization, White guys going abroad to make a LOT of money, as colonizers. Instead its the reverse, every way.
If Dems are so wonderful to browns and if GOP is so awful, why don't all these conquis or conqeys just go with the Dems?
Me thinks GOP uses them on the behalf of the business community to convince America that we need more cheap labor.
"In Loudoun County, the Asian population tripled from 5 percent to 15 percent and the Hispanic population doubled from 6 percent to 12 percent. Meanwhile, whites plummeted from 83 percent to 69 percent of the population."
For the elites, power counts above all, and by 'power', I mean their own power. As long as they can keep it, they'll pull any trick.
In Andrei Rublev a Russian prince hires Mongol thugs to ransack the domain of his feuding brother. Just to get at his brother, he will have Mongols massacre Russians.
When Cossacks rebelled against Poles and recruited Tatars into the war, Poles decried the horror of Christians hiring Muslim Asiatics to fight other Christians.
But when Swedes and Russians invaded Poland later, Poles recruited Tatars just the same.
It's in With Fire and Sword and The Deluge.
Franco recruited Muslim Moors to fight the Republican government.
During Cold War, Nixon sought to ally with crazy Red China against white Russia.
(Hitler, evil as he was, tended to be rather principled in refusing to recruit lots of anti-communist Slavs to join with the Germans. Had he been less principled, he might have won the Eastern War. On the other hand, Hitler sided with Asian Japanese against white Americans.)
As far as Democratic and Labor elites in US and UK are concerned, their own power, ego, and vanity are what counts. They hate losing to the other guys, and so they'll even hire blacks and browns--regardless of longterm consequence to their nation--just to keep their own power. This is how elites think.
It's like what Pentangeli said of the Rosato brothers. "They hire s-----. They hire n------."
The likes of Nancy Pelosi may have no great love of Mexicans, but they hate losing to Republicans, and so, they'll hire ------- and ------- if it improves their chance of winning.
But GOP elites aren't much different. In fact, this is how the GOP went from Party of Lincoln and Northern power to Party of Robert E. Lee. GOP elites were willing to do anything to win. So, they recruited stars and bars wavers.
And this is how GOP recruited neocons too.
In the end, it's about elite struggle for power. Not much principles involved.
Well, actually hispanics don't make that big of money for you in real estate. Santa Ana is a old city and its hard to built new housing. The average house costs now about 320,000 and its 80 percent hispanic. Now, Irvine is a new community and about 39 percent asian with a lot of foreign cash buyers and its average price house is over 600,000. Certain non whites are not going to make as much money as others. The hispanic push by real estate is that the hispanics are the workers whether they can afford to buy a house or not.
That is the very definition of prejudice! You are using the terms as synonyms.
The unexamined assumption here is that prejudice is prima facie wrong. But given how the relaxation of prejudice in the anglosphere has turned out, one wonders if perhaps the evil white racists of yore were on to something.
Why do men grow moustaches? I don't get it.
(Okay, William Hurt looked good with one but he's just very good looking).
But for much of Bush's tenure, government statistics show, incomes for most families remained relatively stagnant while housing prices skyrocketed. That put home ownership increasingly out of reach for first-time buyers like West.
So Bush had to, in his words, "use the mighty muscle of the federal government" to meet his goal. He proposed affordable housing tax incentives. He insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac meet ambitious new goals for low-income lending.
Concerned that down payments were a barrier, Bush persuaded Congress to spend as much as $200 million a year to help first-time buyers with down payments and closing costs.
And he pushed to allow first-time buyers to qualify for government insured mortgages with no money down. Republican congressional leaders and some housing advocates balked, arguing that homeowners with no stake in their investments would be more prone to walk away, as West did. Many economic experts, including some in the White House, now share that view.
The president also leaned on mortgage brokers and lenders to devise their own innovations. "Corporate America," he said, "has a responsibility to work to make America a compassionate place."
And corporate America, eyeing a lucrative market, delivered in ways Bush might not have expected, with a proliferation of too-good-to-be-true teaser rates and interest-only loans that were sold to investors in a loosely regulated environment. But Bush populated the financial system's alphabet soup of oversight agencies with people who, like him, wanted fewer rules, not more.
The president's first chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission promised a "kinder, gentler" agency. The second was pushed out amid industry complaints that he was too aggressive. Under its current leader, the agency failed to police the catastrophic decisions that toppled the investment bank Bear Stearns and contributed to the current crisis, according to a recent inspector general's report.
As for Bush's banking regulators, they once
When Cossacks rebelled against Poles and recruited Tatars into the war, Poles decried the horror of Christians hiring Muslim Asiatics to fight other Christians. But when Swedes and Russians invaded Poland later, Poles recruited Tatars just the same.
And what about the Litvak Tatars who came to Lithuania to stay, and were "hired" by the Lithuanian nobility as shock troops, and were extremely loyal?
Alot of the illegals immirgants just came have Reagan's legalizaiton, surprise at the number of those that came between 1990 to 1994 as teenagers or in their early 20's. They are complaining that they will not be able to qualify for the dreamsers. Poltiicans and Businessmen are responsible for this and both parties in the 1990's were against fining companies or deporting as well.
Apparently whiskey is not familiar with Emanuel Celler.
You see this same Open Borders BS in places like oh, I dunno, AUSTRIA. Or GERMANY (it might surprise you -- not too many Jews in either place). Or Sweden, anti-Jew central these days.
Check out the Bonnier family sport. They have fairly large media presence in Scandinavia.
I say Hispanics are a transfer of the Old World.
I say Hispanics are a transfer of the Old World.
All new world nations were founded by old world nations, primarily England, Spain and France. If you are going to say hispanics are old world because of their Spanish founding, then Americans and Canadians are old world too because of their English and French founding.
For New/Old definition, see here.
I see Ake Bonnier the younger is the Dean of Stockholm Cathedral. A long way from a synagogue, I would think.
Nick, should Mexico become 50% Nigerian? If not, why not?
I see Ake Bonnier the younger is the Dean of Stockholm Cathedral. A long way from a synagogue, I would think.
A long way from Scotland, too.
How about a population swap deal?
We'll take 20 million mexicans if mexico takes 20 million blacks and libs.
If liberals love immigration so much, why don't they leave and become immigrants in africa and mexico?
that noone mentions that accounts for differences:
The English brought wives with them. The Spanish took wives from among the native population.
Ah, starting the debate with insults. Don't start this with na air of superiority because you don't have one over me. I am way smarter than you. Way smarter. I have already considered everything that you might say, and even things you haven't even thought about yet. Talk respectfully to me.
It doesn't matter how smart you are if your arguments suck, which yours do.
Indeed. Catherine of Aragon had red hair and blue eyes. If anything, she looked more "English" than her husband (who had a fair amount of Celt from his Welsh forbears), yet always seems to be depicted on film and television as dark-haired and dark-eyed.
I watched The Tudors again recently and was stricken anew at how sympathetically she was portrayed. Try and imagine an English man being portrayed positively for refusing his Spanish wife a divorce.
Ah yes, the traditional scapegoating of Jews. So uber-powerful with their mind-control rays.
You know you're dealing with a guy arguing in good faith when his first response to "Jewish influence" is always about "uber-powerful mind-control rays."
Whiskey, the Jewish intellectual class has been scapegoating Anglo-Saxons for generations, and spending infinitely more time, energy, and money than the "ANTI-SEMITES!!!" while doing so. Heal thyself.
You see this same Open Borders BS in places like oh, I dunno, AUSTRIA. Or GERMANY (it might surprise you -- not too many Jews in either place). Or Sweden, anti-Jew central these days.
Nonsense. There are both fewer Jews in these places, and stronger borders. I've pointed this out to you time and again, but I suppose you're too obtuse to know when you're shooting yourself in the foot.
US non-Religious Jews (Reform or Secular) are pretty much SWPL central.
Nope. Jews are not SWPLs. SWPLs can't take their own side in a fight. They oppose and dismantle societies that take their part, e.g., Apartheid South Africa. Jews always take their own side in a fight, e.g., their Levantine Fatherland. If Jews were SWPLs, they'd have dismantled Israel as a Jewish state already.
Yeah, the French are Old World too.
From what I'm reading we could have prevent our current hispaniizing since according to a recent study most of the hispanics came during Geroge H and Cliton Adminstration. Prop 187 in Calif might have passed the courts if it resembled the later Arizona props and the Arizona props had strong e-verify. There are many of the illegal immigrants that came in the 1990's as teenagers and 20 somethings that had babies that the 3 per kid in that time period and another reminding 4 million under Bush which were also having the 3 kids which caused our demographic shift. We can kick the ass of both political parties for this.
I see Ake Bonnier the younger is the Dean of Stockholm Cathedral. A long way from a synagogue, I would think.
Or, very close to the end of the long march through the institutions.
"Nick Diaz said...
Ah, starting the debate with insults."
Your every post is couched in the form of an insult.
"Don't start this with na air of superiority because you don't have one over me. I am way smarter than you. Way smarter."
Why should I consider you to be smarter? Based on what? The insistence of your groundless assertions? Your adolescent way of writing? What do you know? What have you ever attained in life, that any of us should consider you smarter?
"I have already considered everything that you might say, and even things you haven't even thought about yet. Talk respectfully to me."
What the hell are you? A twelve year old who imagines that that is the way adults talk to one another? "Talk respecfully to me." - What an assinine thing to say, especially given your propensity for baseless bravado.
F**k off, dips**t. THAT is all the respect you merit.
Yeah, the French are Old World too.
So everyone is old world then. I guess we need to remove the term 'new world' from our history and geography texts.
The popularity of mustaches in Latin America may also be a legacy of the 700 year Arab rule in Spain.
Mustache implants are popular in the Arab world.
Mideast men go under knife for manly mustaches
Thick, handsome mustaches have long been prized by men throughout the Middle East as symbols of masculine virility, wisdom and maturity.
But not all mustaches are created equal, and in recent years, increasing numbers of Middle Eastern men have been going under the knife to attain the perfect specimen.
Turkish plastic surgeon Selahattin Tulunay says the number of mustache implants he performs has boomed in the last few years. He now performs 50-60 of the procedures a month, on patients who hail mostly from the Middle East and travel to Turkey as medical tourists.
He said his patients generally want thick mustaches as they felt they would make them look mature and dignified.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/29/world/meast/mustache-transplants-middle-east/index.html
Anonymous, all but the Protestant 'anglo'.
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